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DO NOTEVER use "Hillary" in combination with "cleavage". "tap that ass", "toe", nor any other mind-disrupting terms. I've got to reclaim my genitals now, they've shrunk back into my abdomen. Yikes!
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Sweden is bad at integrating immigrants - that's the view of Swedes themselves, according to a new Europe-wide survey. Since when is integration a goal of multiculturalism? Is this some sort of journalistic spin on an irrelevant survey?
The Eurobarometer survey interviewed 500 residents in each of 75 European cities to get their opinions on their home towns. In Sweden, the survey covered Stockholm and Malmö. The survey rated Sweden as one of the worst places at integrating foreigners and one of the places where it is hardest to find reasonably-priced housing. Well, duh. Foreigners are supposed to stay in their own communities and keep their own culture when they arrive in Sweden.
In Malmö, only 12 percent said that foreigners who live there are well-integrated; 83 percent said they were not. A similar story was told in Stockholm, where 78 people disagreed with the statement that foreigners who live in the city were well-integrated. IT'S NOT A GOAL OF...aw, forget it. This is like talking to a wall.
No other city in Europe was more negative to the integration of immigrants; next most negative were Berlin, Vienna and Graz, while inhabitants of cities in Romania, Hungary and Poland were most satisfied with integration.
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Well then I guess them Swedes better get on the stick...
#2
When folks show up as refugees from hostile nations, and those nations become better places, one would think the refugee status would be eventually withdrawn and a gentle nudge back to the homeland would be in order. Thank you for staying, please take what you've learned to help fix up the homeland.
Posted by: M. Murcek ||
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No other city in Europe was more negative to the integration of immigrants; next most negative were Berlin, Vienna and Graz, while inhabitants of cities in Romania, Hungary and Poland were most satisfied with integration.
If I were a jihadi-immigrant, I'd be paying attention to those #s in Berlin and Vienna. Now, they know how to throw a genocide! Just one more step toward the coming all-out war in Europe (sadly, once again) when the proverbial bovine excrement hits the air mixer thingy.
Posted by: BA ||
07/27/2007 12:00 Comments ||
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Romania, Hungary and Poland were most satisfied with integration.
i.e. muzzies not welcome there.
Posted by: ed ||
07/27/2007 12:34 Comments ||
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Oh, you've finally noticed ? It's not integration, it's colonization. Tired of being robbed & mugged in your own streets as a thank you ? Tired of the bleating prayer sirens going off in your peaceful neighborhoods ? You'd better get on your high horse quick , like your Danish cousins.
#7
Islam is a supremacist ideology and not a religion. Muslims are humble only until they get citizenship. Mixing Muslims and free peoples is like mixing oil and water.
#8
The Swedes problem is that they aren't going about integration properly. First require Swedish language proficiency before citizenship. Then bust up any developing concentrations of immigrants so that they have to disperse and live among the general population.
Third is to insist on minimal religious observance in secular life. A head scarf on a woman is okay, a burqa is not. Men wear suits and shave, not baggy clothes, turbans and beards.
All religious school students must pass standardized tests on Swedish language, history, culture, and all ordinary secular skills every year, or they do not graduate. If a large enough percentage of religious school students do not pass the standardized tests each year, then the school will lose its accreditation.
Any Sharia law courts are limited to civil matters, must have prior written approval of all litigants, and must provide written decisions to the government, which must conform to Swedish law. All Sharia law decisions are appealable to secular Swedish courts.
All mosque sermons must be submitted to the government in writing for approval before use. They must be in the Swedish language, and cannot violate Swedish law by advocating violence or civil disorder, using hate speech or leveling threats.
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The looming disaster in Sweden is being framed as their own fault, not the religious PC doctrine of multiculturalism, and certainly not the unwillingness of muslims to bend an inch to western culture. All compromise is on the other side, and the instant they get large percentages of representation de-facto sharia begines to emerge, youth gang intimidation of non-muslims in the area, and demands for accomodations and benefits from local government on schooling and welfare.
Since Sweden committed to this failed and naive concept early on, the looming disaster has to be framed by the media as the Swedes fault, not the muslim immigrants. In the face of all reality, PC as a religious dotrine rides roughshod....
#1
A couple of very, very poor picks by big Fred. Thankfully, Debbie's still on duty. Big Fred is whiling away his opportunity, if he ever had one. It's just that the remainder of the crowd is soooo bad that Fred attracts attention at all. I have liked many of Fred's opinions, but this bodes poorly for his actual judgement on critical matters. Even Newton lowered the boom on him in a commentary the other day. Tancredo is much more honest and a better politician altogether, but, sadly attracts little mention nationally.
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Deb Schlussel is an ignorant ass and it is not the first time she has veered off into the land of the shoe-size IQs. The rest of you trying to smear Thompson with this are headed the same place.
Without hitting google or the net, can you off the top of your head name Giuliani's manager or Romney's or Hillary's?
No?
The why does Fred's matter?
Abraham is called into run the campaign.
FRED is who is running and FRED sets the policy and he has been VERY clear on where he stands on CAIR. Anyone claiming otherwise is a brainless moronic basher, and will have ME verbally beating on them worse than a Taliban Mullah on a Playboy Fatwah binge.
Here, educate your dumb asses (Fred Thompson 6/20 in his blog and ABC News Radio):
I've talked before about the Council on American-Islamic Relations -- most recently because it filed that lawsuit against Americans who reported suspicious behavior by Muslims on a U.S. Airways flight. Better known just as CAIR, the lobbying group has come under a lot of scrutiny lately for its connections to terror-supporting groups. This time, though, The Washington Times has uncovered some very good news about the group.
For years, CAIR has claimed to represent millions of American Muslims. In fact, they claim to represent more Muslim in American than ... there are in America. This has alarmed Americans in general as the group often seems to be more aligned with our enemies than us -- which isn't surprising as it spun off from a group funded by Hamas. As you know, Hamas has been waging a terrorist war against Israel and calls for its total destruction. It also promises to see America destroyed. Nowadays, Hamas is busy murdering its Palestinian political rivals.
Even with this history, and CAIR's conspicuous failure to condemn Hamas by name, it has been treated as if represents Muslim Americans by our own government. The good news is that the financial support CAIR claims to have among American Muslims is a myth. We know this because The Washington Times got hold of the group's IRS tax records.
CAIR's dues-paying membership has shrunk 90 percent since 9/11 -- from 29,000 in 2000 to only 1,700 last year. CAIR's annual income from dues plunged from $733,000 to $59,000. Clearly, America's Muslims are not supporting this group -- and I'm happy to hear about it.
Of course, every silver lining seems to have a cloud; and this cloud is that CAIR's spending is running about $3 million a year. Theyve opened 25 new chapters in major cities across the country even as their dues shrank to a pittance. The question is; whos funding CAIR?
CAIR's not saying. The New York Times earlier this year reported that the backing is from "wealthy Persian Gulf governments" including the UAE and Saudi Arabia. Obviously, we have a bigger problem here than the one with CAIR.
#11
don't bother, OS. Facts don't matter to a few here
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Dimwit Deb omits the following FACTS:
Abraham is NOT going to be setting economic or energy policy, Fred Thompson is and already has.
Abraham is NOT going to be setting foreign policy , Fred Thompson is and already has (see above)
Abraham is NOT going to be setting ANY policy, Fred Thompson is and already has.
Abraham will likely NOT be on the cabinet.
He was hired to MANAGE A CAMPAIGN. Not Direct policy, not hire and fire, not give info to CAIR or any ohter group. His job is to make sure peopl eget to where they are supposed to be, make sure peopel are doing their jobs like buyin ads in the right markets, get donors and candidates hooked up with each other, and that is IT. Manager. M A N A G E R for you slow Debwits out there.
Deb is too gutless to even take comments on her blog post for this.
Whats the matter Deb, scared we will verbally rip into your post and destroy it? Chickenshit.
Well, maybe you should THINK before you write stuff that can be shredded, you dimwit.
She's an Ann Coulter wannbee with less sense, half the brains and only 1/10 the looks.
#13
For years, CAIR has claimed to represent millions of American Muslims. In fact, they claim to represent more Muslims in America than ... there are in America. This has alarmed Americans in general as the group often seems to be more aligned with our enemies than us -- which isn't surprising as it spun off from a group funded by Hamas. As you know, Hamas has been waging a terrorist war against Israel and calls for its total destruction. It also promises to see America destroyed.
All the more reason to have this bunch of traitors deported.
Well, if he's lost the Zen vote, he's lost America, huh?
I certainly hope not. Your mileage version might vary.
#14
Bottom line, I guess I do have to spell it out:
Spencer Abraham was hired to set up a competitive campaign organization in Michigan, something he is very adept at doing. He will also help pry some large donations loose from MI GOP political types, something he has done well in the past. That is the extent of his involvement. No policy, no CAIR, none of that.
Dimwit Deb thinks Jason Alexander of Seinfeld fame is a terror threat. Google it.
Ditto Schlussel, the idiot who went on about the "Mexican eagle" pin,
Anyone treating Dimwit Deb as a reliable source of information on this is a fool.
Read more here at other CONSERVATIVE blogs
http://www.nicedoggie.net/2006/?p=252
An exceprt:
Of course, being a vacuous vaporbrain like you, you never felt the need to check your own facts, but thats not much of an excuse, now is it?
Youre lazy and dumb.
Whoopie for you.
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So you see its not the first time Dimwit Deb has lashed out and been dead WRONG.
Shes an overpaid cow.
I could do better than her without even trying, but I havent got her boobs.
Compare that to her original content that tried to pin the VaTech shootings on a Paki muslim student.
Here's what we know about the murderer of at least 32 students and maimer of at least 28 more at Virginia Tech, today:
* The murderer has been identified by law enforcement and media reports as "a young Asian male."
* The Virginia Tech campus has a very large Muslim community, many of which are from Pakistan (per terrorism investigator Bill Warner).
* Pakis are considered "Asian."
* There were 2 attacks at least half a mile apart.
* There have been at least two bomb threats to this campus in the last two weeks.
Deb is stunningly stupid.
THIS is what passes for reason from her:
Congressmen who are liberal are more likely to have slutty daughters. And therefore, they are more likely to support abortion for selfish, personal reasons."
Really, why arent you on medication? Youre the rights version of the unhinged moonbat. Quit pretending to be right of centeryou are an embarrassment, distressingly like Fred Phelps. Were all tired of your deranged, negative bloviating. Is there ANYTHING you actually support or for which you have ANYTHING positive to say? Youre Johnny-One-Note. Bitch, bitch, bitch.
And now threatening to kill my friend? Sorry, BITCH, youre going to have to answer to a lot of us for that one. Nobodys going to have any reading comprehension problems with that crack. Youre just full of shit.
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And before you try to post there, she is notorious for deleting comments that she cannot counter (which is likely most of the critical ones, since she's so damn stupid).
#21
Guys, I've blown my stack on this. I have met Ms Schlussel one informally (I doubt she remembers me), and lets just say she is on a very short list with me of despicable people that I have no pity for and extreme animus towards. That list includes Fred Phelps too.
So you know what this hit me.
Time for a timeout.
See you guys later. Pardon the outburst, but like I said, few people I despise, and Dimwit Deb is there with "Rev" Phelps.
My wife called me on losing my temper too, so she's taking me out for a good steak, some single malt scotch and a cigar.
#22
Debbie Schlussel was sort of a Howard Stern associate wack-packer for a while. Last year, she wrote that the "new superman" looked "gay." A constant theme in her column is: the feminization of the American male. She has lots of free time, her being a Jerry McGuire type sports attorney. How much free time would it take to squeeze sports team owners, and then collect your 10%? However, she spends much of her ample free time hunting local Islamofascists. She does that well.
#23
One last piece. This was written by Fred Thompson and posted to his blog today.
(This post begins with the judicial overreach and overturn of the Hazelton Conn law requiring illegals be deported per local ordinance as well as (unenforced) Federal laws but dips deeply into the proper role fo each level of government and how to best promote individual liberty)
Do these words below sound like those of a man who would let *anyone* move him in a direction other than Federalist Conservative? Go read it all. Its one of the best cases for Federalism I have EVER read.
We need to allow local authorities to apply their own good ideas and use their own good judgment. Each state can find its own way, learning from the successes and failures of the others. There is a wealth of creativity and initiative out there in the states, and often the best ideas in Washington started out as state initiatives.
A good example of this early in my Senate service was welfare reform. We were warned that terrible things would happen if we went forward with a bill a fundamental commitment would be abandoned and, among state governments, a race to the bottom would begin.
But key to our approach were elements of welfare reform that had proved successful in various states, such as Colorado, Michigan and Wisconsin. The result was a law that allowed us to better meet our commitments to our fellow citizens. It was one of the great political successes of the 1990s, because Washington for once had the good sense to learn from state and local authorities and empower them in return.
When you hold firm to the principles of federalism, theres another advantage: our federal government can better carry out its own defining responsibilities above all else, the security of our nation and the safety of our citizens. Sometimes I think that our leaders in Washington try to do so many things, in so many areas, that they lose sight of their basic responsibilities.
We saw some improvement in the post-1994, Contract with America takeover of Congress strings to federal programs were cut, more federal programs were being turned over to states, historic legislation to reduce unfunded mandates became law, and we rolled back the Clinton anti-federalism executive order. But in recent years weve seen backsliding.
The recent immigration bill was a case in point. That bill failed, and it failed for good reason. The federal government simply had no credibility on the issue.
The promises of the 1986 immigration bill have not been fulfilled. Current laws have not been enforced. The federal government has been failing in its fundamental responsibility to control the borders. Worse, when state officials have tried to act with reforms of their own, federal authorities have gotten in the way. In the end, many in both parties in Congress have learned a lesson: promises about immigration reform arent worth much unless you have credibility. And in this case theres only one way that credibility can be regained. Federal leaders must do their job and secure the borders of the United States.
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It is not enough to say that we are for federalism, because in todays world it is not always clear what that means. What we are for is liberty for our citizens. Federalism divides power between the states and government in Washington. It is a tool to promote freedom. How we draw the line between federal and state roles in this century, and how we stay true to the principles of federalism for the purpose of protecting economic and individual freedom are questions we must answer. Our challenge meaning the federal government, the states, our communities and constituents is to answer these questions together.
New Evidence Clearly Indicates Pat Tillman Was Executed
Army medical examiners concluded Tillman was shot three times in the head from just 10 yards away, no evidence of "friendly fire" damage at scene, Army attorneys congratulated each other on cover-up, Wesley Clark concludes "orders came from the very top" to murder pro-football star because he was about to become an anti-war political icon. Why is it that I don't ever think of these things? I must be a moron or something.
Rest at link if your curiosity gets the better of you. :-) They do mention that Wesley Clark stood behind this. Is it true that he did say something? Even if it were, Clark would have no way of knowing because nobody would ring up all their has-been retired buddies and blab about it. The total desperation behind this act will probably go completely unnoticed by the lunatic fringe, and ignored by many others. Any other info/ideas on this stellar piece of work that is surely due a Putzler prize?
Worst case I figure: He ran off on his own and got shot in the head by a terrorist. His body can be exhumed to verify the three shots at close range or pictures should be available. Seems like his head would be knocked back and sideways by the first shot, leaving the other two to enter from the side or some other angle if they were to be center-of-mass shots. The theory seems to be only half-baked.
KOS has given it some press, too. Great. I'd sure love to see this brought up in the MSM and then taken down, but given the mentality I don't think it would matter one bit to those who frequent POS KOS.
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The original story 'made sense' - gung-ho but inexperienced soldier got himself killed in friendly fire incident, then superiors spin it to minimize 'damage' from losing such a popular and heroic figure in such a manner (with initially desirable side-effect of giving the family members a measure of 'meaning' to their loss.) It didn't work, since that template had enemies in the system.
THIS angle is really different, if true. And if it is true, there are lots of significant people who know it, and did from very early on. The 'spin' then makes no sense, at least on the surface. The 'orders/anti-war' hypothesis is NOT the answer - of that I am positive.
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If the three forehead shots from 30 feet is true, then I suspect that it was indeed a cluster from beginning to end. I can easily suggest what happened:
1) That Tillman was an obnoxious, John Wayne, who habitually and recklessly endangered his fellow Rangers, browbeating them like they were on a football team. My suspicions were raised because the "Great guy, everybody liked him" quote came up just a little too often. The Chaplain information that he was berating a comrade on the ground next to him, while standing, would seem to fit this pattern. This is the critical item.
2) A three shot head grouping would almost have to be on full auto. From a prone position. And with enough aiming time to identify the target. It would also imply that the target was standing still. If murder, then it was calculated.
3) No evidence of enemy fire found, as in no other wounded, no bullet holes on vehicles or equipment, no shell casings. This one is less certain, because the enemy is an awful shot.
4) Tillman was a celebrity, and his chain of command would be likely to want "heroic dead" rather than "frag", which would not look good so early in the war. And cover-ups often make a bad situation worse. On top of everything else, awarding Tillman a Silver Star for getting shot shows his chain of command had problems.
#5
nice hatchet job, Moose. Guess you never made the football team, huh? Been holding that in all this time?
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Hmm. Maybe. I forgot about the three-shot auto setting on the weapons. I was thinking three individual shots.
Do orders to frag a guy ever come from high-up? Seems so ludicrous that I never really considered it, but I don't know. That is what this article is claiming. I can imagine a cover-up coming from high up, but not orders to frag.
#7
I see ex-Pravda writers have finally found employment. I was so hoping they could revive the Weekly World News.
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07/27/2007 18:21 Comments ||
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Frank G: There's just too many things that don't make sense here. I didn't even know that the Rangers *had* Sp4s. That at least used to mean that you were not on the command track enough to even be made a Corporal, in the Infantry. Other branches had plenty of Sp4s, but not Infanty. Private or Corporal.
http://tinyurl.com/2rdk8w
The two accounts of Tillman's demise both had him screaming:
"Spc. Bryan O'Neal, who was at Tillman's side as he was killed, told investigators that Tillman was waving his arms shouting "Cease fire, friendlies, I am Pat (expletive) Tillman, damn it!" again and again..."
"The chaplain said O'Neal told him he was hugging the ground at Tillman's side, "crying out to God, 'Help us.' And Tillman says to him, 'Would you shut your (expletive) mouth? God's not going to help you; you need to do something for yourself, you sniveling...'"
Okay, in the former case, friendlies are already firing, but in the latter case, that may or may not be the case. But O'Neal is on the ground, and apparently scared, probably for a reason.
Again, during this, how does somebody get a 3-shot grouping on Tillman's forehead? That is a very hard shot from 30 feet. Tillman had to be still, looking near or at whoever is shooting him.
The first case seems plausible, that Tillman was standing still, at most waving his arms, while facing the shooter. Importantly, if the *second* case is true, it is most likely that Tillman was looking *down* at O'Neal, so his forehead would not be exposed.
But then, at some point, he would have to stop looking at O'Neal and turn to face the shooter--while still chewing out O'Neal.
This means that in either case, Tillman is giving the shooter a target for a while, long enough for the shooter to aim and keep his group tight. And unless there was a LOT of firing, to be able to hear Tillman.
Notice in the article how twice they mention that the investigators were asking how well liked Tillman was in his unit. This says to me that they suspected he might have been fragged. But nobody in his unit is going to be to thrilled about saying that.
Back to football for a second, Tillman's career as an OLB was noteworthy for his aggressive tackles and brute force plays. And while this is no evidence that he took his football attitude with him into the Rangers, it is hardly a leap of faith to suspect that like so many others in football, he took his aggression with him off the field.
You may take it as a hatchet job. But there are just too many coincidences for me to think that besides being friendly fire, it wasn't aimed fire. And if that's the case, then there was probably a pretty good reason it was aimed.
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Back to football for a second, Tillman's career as an OLB was noteworthy for his aggressive tackles and brute force plays. And while this is no evidence that he took his football attitude with him into the Rangers, it is hardly a leap of faith to suspect that like so many others in football, he took his aggression with him off the field
Uh huh. Safety in the NFL, not OLB, cuz he was too small. Anything else exaggerated?
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Sorry, Moose. I don't buy innuendo or projection. Tillman quit the NFL to serve. You can dwell in the cellar with those who want to denigrate him or what tragically happened. I won't.
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As someone who attended Tillman's public service in San Jose's Rose Garden and personally led three cheers for his family, I'm going with "FUCK THESE LAME ASSHOLES AND THE CAMEL THEY RODE IN ON" portion of this theory.
OLB at ASU, where he had a lot more play than in the NFL.
And as far as denigration goes, how about awarding a Silver Star to a soldier who just got shot? Especially if you suspect that he was fragged by his peers.
That really sets a great example to those soldiers who have earned a Silver, or even a Bronze Star.
I can hold Tillman in high regard for leaving his career behind to join the Army. That career being the NFL means nothing beyond that, except that it might go to motive of why he was shot.
And in the Army, if he was such a dick that one of his own comrades shot him, with intention to kill him, not just wound him, the evidence will out, and it will not be me denigrating him.
But I'm willing to listen to alternative theories of why he was intentionally shot 3 times in the forehead by one of his peers. "Accident" doesn't quite cut it, though.
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SI did a pretty big article about him and the way he died. Unfortunately they tried to bring in all the side crap from his one anti-war brother (not the other ranger brother w/him). And another ranger who was some coffee house goof -- (rangers must be getting different types than I remember if some of the dudes they interviewed were indicative of that unit.)
My swag is that he was prolly tryin' to do the right thing but got out too far in front of his folks, lost comm, and didn't stay down. OTOH, who ever the squad ldr was runnin' that show prolly should've had better control of his buys fire discipline. Not sure if Tillman had smoke on him but I would hope he and that other guy had a smoke grenade or some sort of star cluster....those are good to pop off -- enemy almost never has them and generally platoons/companies have their own SOPs on when to pop'em.
I wasn't there so hate to second guess -- but I doubt it was a fragging -- possible, sure, plausible, not really. Seemed to me Tillman just made a bush league mistake - standing up trying to yell across a ravine while a ma-deuce poppin' off caps -- when he knew friendlies were shooting...best bet is either stay down, pop smoke, or posibly stand up slow and do the POW salute from behind cover.
I have no clue how the army turned that incident into a SS citation, etc. Turned a tragic incident into a pr nightmare...I hope they fired the clowns who pulled that crap.
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'moose, I thought he took it in the chest.....moonbats claim three to the head.....doesn't mean he took three to the head just because they claim it so.
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frankly I don't even care if he took 3 - autoburst. I don't even care if he was tough on those around him. I care that this is being obsessively dwelt on (except for punishing those who fabricated testimony or evidence) by the weasels who use it to harm our WOT efforts. Does anybody with a rational mind think he was intentionally killed??? Tiny details obsessed by tiny minds. Jeebus
Posted by: Frank G ||
07/27/2007 21:05 Comments ||
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A persistent problem with platoon use of advance patrol groups is that if the platoon takes fire, they shoot ahead. In absence of a video of the incident, I trust the official story.
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The 3-shot to the forehead was from the Army Medical Examiner, who also was the one that determine the shots were from about 10 Meters out. He was the one who first raised the flag that something was seriously wrong.
That being the case, it just doesn't add up. If it was difficult to see, it would be difficult to group the shots; there would have to be a lot of ambient noise, so they couldn't hear Tillman shouting whatever he was shouting. He had to be standing there, not running or advancing.
The Army has determined that it was friendly fire that killed him. But there is no evidence of enemy fire anywhere near where they were, which disallows "heat of battle". This leaves either a trigger happy shooter firing at anything that moves, again disregarded because of the tight grouping; or someone shooting Tillman intentionally.
The issue then becomes if someone shot him, what was their motive. Twice it was mentioned that the Army asked his unit if he was well liked. His family thinks he was murdered because he was an atheist. That doesn't seem very likely at all.
So either just one guy hated him or he was generally disliked. If he had a history with just one guy, the rest of the unit would probably notice. But if he just didn't fit in, or had a very abrasive or reckless personality, that could be big trouble.
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The M16A2 was modified to remove 'full auto'. It does single shot or burst of three with one trigger pull. Now what version were they carrying? That model or something else?
That means someone could stumble or trip in unfamiliar terrain, go down hard on your elbows, and you get a messy outcome if the barrel is pointed in the wrong direction.
"There's just too many things that don't make sense here. I didn't even know that the Rangers *had* Sp4s. That at least used to mean that you were not on the command track enough to even be made a Corporal, in the Infantry. Other branches had plenty of Sp4s, but not Infanty. Private or Corporal."
Dont confuse 70's rank with modern rank. Specials, E-4s or Spec-4s (slang term) are still around in EVERY branch. Actually, it is the begining rank for enlistment if you hve a college degree.
The three rounds to the head theory just doesnt hold water. The three round burst from an M-16 causes a weapon jerk and subsequent spread of the bullets shot group. this spread can vary from 16 inches to 3 ft. This is doubtful that three hit in the head.
Unless this is an official report released by the Army, I would not believe the medical examiner. There are just too many stories hitting the internet about soldiers and conspiracies that the facts never get checked. And this statement of three rounds to the head is the lynch pin to the whole theory. It should be checked first...personally I think its BS.
Finally, no one orders (from the top)anyone to murder someone. Sooner or later, it would come out to the news. Besides, the first rule of assasination is to kill the assasins.
Posted by: Army Life ||
07/27/2007 22:10 Comments ||
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I think the world of him, Moose for making a sacrifice I don't know that I would/could make. If he was "murdered", I'd like to see evidence, if valid convict the "murderers". If you're just extrapolating from your issues with his archetype, KMA. Nuff said. Say..... what about that JFK thing?
Posted by: Frank G ||
07/27/2007 22:34 Comments ||
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I don't suspect any conspiracy to kill Tillman.
According to FOXNews: ...The medical examiners' suspicions were outlined in 2,300 pages of testimony released to the AP this week by the Defense Department in response to a Freedom of Information Act request...
...The documents show that a doctor who autopsied Tillman's body was suspicious of the three gunshot wounds to the forehead. The doctor said he took the unusual step of calling the Army's Human Resources Command and was rebuffed. He then asked an official at the Army's Criminal Investigation Division if the CID would consider opening a criminal case.
"He said he talked to his higher headquarters and they had said no," the doctor testified.
Also according to the documents, investigators pressed officers and soldiers on a question Mrs. Tillman has been asking all along.
"Have you, at any time since this incident occurred back on April 22, 2004, have you ever received any information even rumor that Cpl. Tillman was killed by anybody within his own unit intentionally?" an investigator asked then-Capt. Richard Scott.
Scott, and others who were asked, said they were certain the shooting was accidental.
Investigators also asked soldiers and commanders whether Tillman was disliked, whether anyone was jealous of his celebrity, or if he was considered arrogant. They said Tillman was respected, admired and well-liked...
#4
If you are a US soldier/marine and you are kidnapped/captured by terrorists, my advice would be to put your head between your legs and kiss your a$$ goodbye. I don't think we've gotten any soldiers back alive.
Of course, this should tell US military personnel not to surrender under any circumstances. Fight to the death and take as many jihadis with you as you can. If you run out of ammo, throw rocks.
#5
Rambler,
Not only have we not gotten them back alive, but they have generally been tortured extensively. Kissing your a$$ goodbye is much too passive a strategy. The policy should be:
1) Don't go anywhere without firearm & ammo.
2) Use same.
3) Do not ever, ever surrender. Unless you like excruciating pain.
4) Carry knife or club in case you run out of ammo.
5) see #3.
Al
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#6
Promise that if they don't torture you, you'll give them the names of CIA operatives posing as MSM reporters.
#3
Lots of bright, shiny, new faculty, but the students are still spending one third of their primary and secondary school time on religious studies... and one of the curricula goals remains to prepare the students mentally and physically for jihad. (See MEMRI- Saudi Arabia for details of arguments of the curriculum.)
#4
Another sticking point is relations with Israel, a research powerhouse in the region that shares many interests, such as water, with KAUST. Mulla says that Saudi Arabia cannot cooperate "at the present time" with countries with which it does not have diplomatic relations which would mean no formal collaboration between KAUST and Israeli institutions.
"It's a delicate issue," says Mulla, and it is being left to the side for the moment. The board has agreed to accept this situation, after receiving assurances that KAUST will be free to recruit Israeli faculty and students.
Yeah, it's a "delicate issue" all right. They can't even (at least on paper) try to study science and engineering w/o involving the Jooos for something, can they?
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#5
I don't see this going anywhere. There will be "radical islamic student groups" right there on the campus to discourage any modern behavior with riots and terror.
#6
The kingdom is at or near the bottom of rankings for science and technology research and has one of the world's worst track records on academic freedom, not to mention women's and other human rights.
#7
KAUST will be free to recruit Israeli faculty and students
Only thing is, last I heard it's illegal for Jews to enter Saudi Arabia. So perhaps they'll only recruit Arab Israeli students and faculty -- I s'pose that would be ok.
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