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EU Causes of Growth differentials in Europe
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/26/2007 08:28 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And this is without the strong Euro effect. That is a very compelling reason for exchange controls soon. The dollar is not the problem it is the Euro.

Posted by: Jack is Back! || 11/26/2007 13:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Good catch, Anonymous 5089. Just put a similar link up at my blog and credited you and Rantburg.
Posted by: Ptah || 11/26/2007 16:33 Comments || Top||

#3  A continental Laffer Curve experiment.
Posted by: ed || 11/26/2007 17:06 Comments || Top||

#4  "' Big government ' is the main cause of Europe's weak performance. The oversized Public Sector lacks productivity and is undoing the entire productivity gains of the Private Sector, eradicating all of its outstanding performance and productiveness."

On an economic level this is certainly true.

I would add that on a societal level, the takeover of nearly all the safety net tasks of the institution of the family by the these same big governments has disrupted the connection between the people and their civilization and has destroyed the will of the people to breed in sufficient numbers to continue to exist as nations for more than three more generations.

A good working definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results each time. No matter how many times you touch a hot stove, you'll burn your hand. Most of Euroland, it seems, still thinks that they can touch the stove and get a cookie instead of a blister. No matter how many times you try, no matter how many versions you push, big government socialism does not and cannot work. The rest of Europe - particularly the class of '68 - needs to swallow its pride, admit that they were wrong (difficult for po-mo's obsessed with their narrative, I know), and follow the Irish and stop touching the stove.
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India-Pakistan
An American Writer in 1908 comments on Rowan William's beloved British Raj
The Nationalist Movement in India
by Jabez T. Sunderland
The Atlantic Monthly
October 1908
http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/08oct/nationmo.htm


The Nationalist Movement in India may well interest Americans. Lovers of progress and humanity cannot become acquainted with it without discovering that it has large significance, not only to India and Great Britain, but to the world. That the movement is attracting much attention in England (as well as awakening some anxiety there, because of England's connection with India) is well known to all who read the British periodical press, or follow the debates of Parliament, or note the public utterances from time to time of Mr. John Morley (now Lord Morley), the British Secretary of State for India.

What is this new Indian movement? What has brought it into existence? What is its justification, if it has a justification? What does it portend as to the future of India, and the future relations between India and Great Britain?

In order to find answers to these questions we must first of all get clearly in mind the fact that India is a subject land. She is a dependency of Great Britain, not a colony. Britain has both colonies and dependencies. Many persons suppose them to be identical; but they are not. Britain's free colonies, like Canada and Australia, though nominally governed by the mother country, are really self-ruling in everything except their relations to foreign powers. Not so with dependencies like India. These are granted no self-government, no representation; they are ruled absolutely by Great Britain, which is not their "mother" country, but their conqueror and master.

As the result of a pretty wide acquaintance in England, and a residence of some years in Canada, I am disposed to believe that nowhere in the world can be found governments that are more free, that better embody the intelligent will of their people, or that better serve their people's many-sided interests and wants, than those of the self-ruling colonies of Great Britain. I do not see but that these colonies are in every essential way as free as if they were full republics. Probably they are not any more free than the people of the United States, but it is no exaggeration to say that they are as free. Their connection with England, their mother country, is not one of coercion; it is one of choice; it is one of reverence and affection. That the British Government insures such liberty in its colonies, is a matter for congratulation and honorable pride. In this respect it stands on a moral elevation certainly equal to that of any government in the world.

Turn now from Britain's colonies to her dependencies. Here we find something for which there does not seem to be a natural place among British political institutions. Britons call their flag the flag of freedom. They speak of the British Constitution, largely unwritten though it is, as a constitution which guarantees freedom to every British subject in the world. Magna Charta meant self-government for the English people. Cromwell wrote on the statute books of the English Parliament, "All just powers under God are derived from the consent of the people." Since Cromwell's day this principle has been fundamental, central, undisputed, in British home politics.

It took a little longer to get it recognized in colonial matters. The American Colonies in 1776 took their stand upon it. "Just government must be based on the consent of the governed." "There should be no taxation without representation." These were their affirmations. Burke and Pitt and Fox and the broaderminded leaders of public opinion in England were in sympathy with their American brethren. If Britain had been true to her principle of freedom and self-rule she would have kept her American colonies. But she was not true to it, and so she lost them. Later she came very near losing Canada in the same way. But her eyes were opened in time, and she gave Canada freedom and self-government. This prevented revolt, and fastened Canada to her with hooks of steel. Since this experience with Canada it has been a settled principle in connection with British colonial as well as home politics, that there is no just power except that which is based upon the consent of the governed.

But what are we to do with this principle when we come to dependencies? Is another and different principle to be adopted here? Are there peoples whom it is just to rule without their consent? Is justice one thing in England and Canada,and another in India? It was the belief that what is justice in England and Canada is justice everywhere that made Froude declare, "Free nations cannot govern subject provinces."

Why is England in India at all? Why did she go there at first, and why does she remain? If India had been a comparatively empty land, as America was when it was discovered, so that Englishmen had wanted to settle there and make homes, the reason would have been plain. But it was a full land; and, as a fact, no British emigrants have ever gone to India to settle and make homes. If the Indian people had been savages or barbarians, there might have seemed more reason for England's conquering and ruling them. But they were peoples with highly organized governments far older than that of Great Britain, and with a civilization that had risen to a splendid height before England's was born. Said Lord Curzon, the late Viceroy of India, in an address delivered at the great Delhi Durbar in 1901: "Powerful Empires existed and flourished here [in India] while Englishmen were still wandering painted in the woods, and while the British Colonies were a wilderness and a jungle. India has left a deeper mark upon the history, the philosophy, and the religion of mankind, than any other terrestrial unit in the universe." It is such a land that England has conquered and is holding as a dependency. It is such a people that she is ruling without giving them any voice whatever in the shaping of their own destiny. The honored Canadian Premier, Sir Wilfred Laurier, at the Colonial Conference held in London in connection with the coronation of King Edward, declared, "The Empire of Rome was composed of slave states; the British Empire is a galaxy of free nations." But is India a free nation? At that London Colonial Conference which was called together for consultation about the interests of the entire Empire, was any representative invited to be present from India ? Not one. Yet Lord Curzon declared in his Durbar address in Delhi, that the "principal condition of the strength of the British throne is the possession of the Indian Empire, and the faithful attachment and service of the Indian people." British statesmen never tire of boasting of "our Indian Empire," and of speaking of India as "the brightest jewel in the British crown." Do they reflect that it is virtually a slave empire of which they are so proud; and that this so-called brightest jewel reflects no light of political freedom?

Perhaps there is nothing so dangerous, or so evil in its effects, as irresponsible power. That is what Great Britain exercises in connection with India -- absolute power, with no one to call her to account. I do not think any nation is able to endure such an ordeal better than Britain, but it is an ordeal to which neither rulers of nations nor private men should ever be subjected; the risks are too great. England avoids it in connection with her own rulers by making them strictly responsible to the English people. Canada avoids it in connection with hers by making them responsible to the Canadian people. Every free nation safeguards alike its people and its rulers by making its rulers in everything answerable to those whom they govern. Here is the anomaly of the British rule of India. Britain through her Indian government rules India, but she does not acknowledge responsibility in any degree whatever to the Indian people.

What is the result? Are the interests and the rights of India protected? Is it possible for the rights of any people to be protected without self-rule? I invite my readers to go with me to India and see. What we find will go far toward furnishing us a key to the meaning of the present Indian Nationalist Movement.

Crossing over from this side to London, we sail from there to India in a magnificent steamer. On board is a most interesting company of people, made up of merchants, travelers, and especially Englishmen who are either officials connected with the Indian Government or officers in the Indian army, who have been home on furlough with their families and are now returning. We land in Bombay, a city that reminds us of Paris or London or New York or Washington. Our hotel is conducted in English style. We go to the railway station, one of the most magnificent buildings of the kind in the world, to take the train for Calcutta, the capital, some fifteen hundred miles away. Arrived at Calcutta we hear it called the City of Palaces; nor do we wonder at the name. Who owns the steamship line by which we came to India? The British. Who built that splendid railway station in Bombay? The British. Who built the railway on which we rode to Calcutta? The British. To whom do these palatial buildings belong? Mostly to the British.

We find that Calcutta and Bombay have a large commerce. To whom does it belong? Mainly to the British. We find that the Indian Government, that is, British rule in India, has directly or indirectly built in the land some 29,000 miles of railway; has created good postal and telegraph systems, reaching nearly everywhere; has established or assisted in establishing many schools, colleges, hospitals, and other institutions of public benefit; has promoted sanitation, founded law courts after the English pattern, and done much else to bring India into line with the civilization of Europe. It is not strange if we soon begin to exclaim, "How much are the British doing for India! How great a benefit to the Indian people is British rule!" And in an important degree we are right in what we say. British rule has done much for India, and much for which India itself is profoundly grateful.

But have we seen all? Is there no other side? Have we discovered the deepest and most important that exists? If there are signs of prosperity, is it the prosperity of the Indian people, or only of their English masters? If the English are living in ease and luxury, how are the people of the land living? If there are railways and splendid buildings, who pay for them? and who get profits out of them? Have we been away from the beaten tracks of travel ? Have we been out among the Indian people themselves, in country as well as in city? Nearly nine-tenths of the people are ryots, or small farmers, who derive their sustenance directly from the land. Have we found out how they live? Do we know whether they are growing better off, or poorer? Especially have we looked into the causes of those famines, the most terrible known to the modern world, which have swept like a besom of death over the land year after year, and which drag after them another scourge scarcely less dreadful, the plague, their black shadow, their hideous child? Here is a side of India which we must acquaint ourselves with, as well as the other, if we would understand the real Indian situation.

The great, disturbing, portentous, all-overshadowing fact connected with the history of India in recent years is the succession of famines. What do these famines mean ? Here is a picture from a recent book, written by a distinguished British civilian who has had long service in India and knows the Indian situation from the inside. Since he is an Englishman we may safely count upon his prejudices, if he has any, being not upon the side of the Indian people, but upon that of his own countrymen. Mr. W. S. Lilly, in his India and Its Problems,writes as follows: --

"During the first eighty years of the nineteenth century, 18,000,000 of people perished of famine. In one year alone -- the year when her late Majesty assumed the title of Empress -- 5,000,000 of the people in Southern India were starved to death. In the District of Bellary, with which I am personally acquainted, -- a region twice the size of Wales, -- one-fourth of the population perished in the famine of 1816-77. I shall never forget my own famine experiences: how, as I rode out on horseback, morning after morning, I passed crowds of wandering skeletons, and saw human corpses by the roadside, unburied, uncared for, and half devoured by dogs and vultures; how, sadder sight still, children, 'the joy of the world,' as the old Greeks deemed, had become its ineffable sorrow, and were forsaken by the very women who had borne them, wolfish hunger killing even the maternal instinct. Those children, their bright eyes shining from hollow sockets, their nesh utterly wasted away, and only gristle and sinew and cold shivering skin remaining, their heads mere skulls, their puny frames full of loathsome diseases, engendered by the starvation in which they had been conceived and born and nurtured -- they haunt me still." Every one who has gone much about India in famine times knows how true to life is this picture.

Mr. Lilly estimates the number of deaths in the first eight decades of the last century at 18,000,000. This is nothing less than appalling, -- within a little more than two generations as many persons perishing by starvation in a single country as the whole population of Canada, New England, and the city and state of New York, or nearly half as many as the total population of France! But the most startling aspect of the case appears in the fact that the famines increased in number and severity as the century went on. Suppose we divide the past century into quarters, or periods of twenty-five years each. In the first quarter there were five famines, with an estimated loss of life of 1,000,000. During the second quarter of the century there were two famines, with an estimated mortality of 500,000. During the third quarter there were six famines, with a recorded loss of life of 5,000,000. During the last quarter of the century, what? Eighteen famines, with an estimated mortality reaching the awful totals of from 15,000,000 to 26,000,000. And this does not include the many more millions (over 6,000,000 in a single year) barely kept alive by government doles.

What is the cause of these famines, and this appalling increase in their number and destructiveness? The common answer is, the failure of the rains. But there seems to be no evidence that the rains fail worse now than they did a hundred years ago. Moreover, why should failure of rains bring famine? The rains have never failed over areas so extensive as to prevent the raising of enough food in the land to supply the needs of the entire population. Why then have people starved? Not because there was lack of food. Not because there was lack of food in the famine areas, brought by railways or otherwise within easy reach of all. There has always been plenty of food, even in the worst famine years, for those who have had money to buy it with, and generally food at moderate prices. Why, then, have all these millions of people perished? Because they were so indescribably poor. All candid and thorough investigation into the causes of the famines of India has shown that the chief and fundamental cause has been and is the poverty of the people, -- a poverty so severe and terrible that it keeps the majority of the entire population on the very verge of starvation even in years of greatest plenty, prevents them from laying up anything against times of extremity, and hence leaves them, when their crops fail, absolutely undone -- with nothing between them and death, unless some form of charity comes to their aid. Says Sir Charles Elliott long the Chief Commissioner of Assam, "Half the agricultural population do not know from one halfyear's end to another what it is to have a full meal." Says the Honorable G. K. Gokhale, of the Viceroy's Council,"From 60,000,000 to 70,000,000 of the people of India do not know what it is to have their hunger satisfied even once in a year."

And the people are growing poorer and poorer. The late Mr. William Digby, of London, long an Indian resident, in his recent book entitled "Prosperous" India, shows from official estimates and Parliamentary and Indian Blue Books, that, whereas the average daily income of the people of India in the year 1850 was estimated as four cents per person (a pittance on which one wonders that any human being can live), in 1882 it had fallen to three cents per person, and in 1900 actually to less than two cents per person. Is it any wonder that people reduced to such extremities as this can lay up nothing? Is it any wonder that when the rains do not come, and the crops of a single season fail, they are lost? And where is this to end? If the impoverishment of the people is to go on, what is there before them but growing hardship, multiplying famines, and increasing loss of life?

Here we get a glimpse of the real India. It is not the India which the traveler sees, following the usual routes of travel, stopping at the leading hotels conducted after the manner of London or Paris, and mingling with the English lords of the country. It is not the India which the British "point to with pride," and tell us about in their books of description and their official reports. This is India from the inside, the India of the people, of the men, women, and children, who were born there and die there, who bear the burdens and pay the taxes, and support the costly government carried on by foreigners, and do the starving when the famines come.

What causes this awful and growing impoverishment of the Indian people? Said John Bright, "If a country be found possessing a most fertile soil, and capable of bearing every variety of production, and, notwithstanding, the people are in a state of extreme destitution and suffering, the chances are there is some fundamental error in the government of that country."

One cause of India's impoverishment is heavy taxation. Taxation in England and Scotland is high, so high that Englishmen and Scotchmen complain bitterly. But the people of India are taxed more than twice as heavily as the people of England and three times as heavily as those of Scotland. According to the latest statistics at hand, those of 1905, the annual average income per person in India is about $6.00, and the annual tax per person about $2.00. Think of taxing the American people to the extent of one-third their total income! Yet such taxation here, unbearable as it would be, would not create a tithe of the suffering that it does in India, because incomes here are so immensely larger than there. Here it would cause great hardship, there it creates starvation.

Notice the single item of salt-taxation. Salt is an absolute necessity to the people, to the very poorest; they must have it or die. But the tax upon it which for many years they have been compelled to pay has been much greater than the cost value of the salt. Under this taxation the quantity of salt consumed has been reduced actually to one-half the quantity declared by medical authorities to be absolutely necessary for health. The mere suggestion in England of a tax on wheat sufficient to raise the price of bread by even a half-penny on the loaf, creates such a protest as to threaten the overthrow of ministries. Lately the salt-tax in India has been reduced, but it still remains well-nigh prohibitive to the poorer classes. With such facts as these before us, we do not wonder at Herbert Spencer's indignant protest against the "grievous salt-monopoly" of the Indian Government, and "the pitiless taxation which wrings from poor ryob nearly half the products of the soil."

Another cause of India's impoverishment is the destruction of her manufactures, as the result of British rule. When the British first appeared on the scene, India was one of the richest countries of the world; indeed it was her great riches that attracted the British to her shores. The source of her wealth was largely her splendid manufactures. Her cotton goods, silk goods, shawls, muslins of Dacca, brocades of Ahmedabad, rugs, pottery of Scind, jewelry, metal work, lapidary work, were famed not only all over Asia but in all the leading markets of Northern Africa and of Europe. What has become of those manufactures? For the most part they are gone, destroyed. Hundreds of villages and towns of India in which they were carried on are now largely or wholly depopulated, and millions of the people who were supported by them have been scattered and driven back on the land, to share the already too scanty living of the poor ryot. What is the explanation? Great Britain wanted India's markets. She could not find entrance for British manufactures so long as India was supplied with manufactures of her own. So those of India must be sacrificed. England had all power in her hands, and so she proceeded to pass tariff and excise laws that ruined the manufactures of India and secured the market for her own goods. India would have protected herself if she had been able, by enacting tariff laws favorable to Indian interests, but she had no power, she was at the mercy of her conqueror.

A third cause of India's impoverishment is the enormous and wholly unnecessary cost of her government. Writers in discussing the financial situation in India have often pointed out the fact that her government is the most expensive in the world. Of course the reason why is plain: it is because it is a government carried on not by the people of the soil, but by men from a distant country. These foreigners, having all power in their own hands, including power to create such offices as they choose and to attach to them such salaries and pensions as they see fit, naturally do not err on the side of making the offices too few or the salaries and pensions too small. Nearly all the higher officials throughout India are British. To be sure, the Civil Service is nominally open to Indians. But it is hedged about with so many restrictions (among others, Indian young men being required to make the journey of seven thousand miles from India to London to take their examinations) that they are able for the most part to secure only the lowest and poorest places. The amount of money which the Indian people are required to pay as salaries to this great army of foreign civil servants and appointed higher officials, and then, later, as pensions for the same, after they have served a given number of years in India, is very large. That in three-fourths if not nine-tenths of the positions quite as good service could be obtained for the government at a fraction of the present cost, by employing educated and competent Indians, who much better understand the wants of the country, is quite true. But that would not serve the purpose of England, who wants these lucrative offices for her sons. Hence poor Indian ryots must sweat and go hungry, and if need be starve, that an ever-growing army of foreign officials may have large salaries and fat pensions. And of course much of the money paid for these salaries, and practically all paid for the pensions, goes permanently out of India.

Another burden upon the people of India which they ought not to be compelled to bear, and which does much to increase their poverty, is the enormously heavy military expenses of the government. I am not complaining of the maintenance of such an army as may be necessary for the defense of the country. But the Indian army is kept at a strength much beyond what the defense of the country requires. India is made a sort of general rendezvous and training camp for the Empire, from which soldiers may at any time be drawn for service in distant lands. If such an imperial training camp and rendezvous is needed, a part at least of the heavy expense of it ought to come out of the Imperial Treasury. But no, India is helpless, she can be compelled to pay it, she is compelled to pay it. Many English statesmen recognize this as wrong, and condemn it; yet it goes right on. Said the late Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman: "Justice demands that England should pay a portion of the cost of the great Indian army maintained in India for Imperial rather than Indian purposes. This has not yet been done, and famine-stricken India is being bled for the maintenance of England's worldwide empire." But there is still worse than this. Numerous wars and campaigns are carried on outside of India, the expenses of which, wholly or in part, India is compelled to bear. For such foreign wars and campaigns -- campaigns and wars in which the Indian pcople had no concern, and for which they received no benefit, the aim of which was solely conquest and the extension of British power -- India was required to pay during the last century the enormous total of more than $460,000,000. How many such burdens as these can the millions of India, who live on the average income of $6 a year, bear without being crushed?

Perhaps the greatest of all the causes of the impoverishment of the Indian people is the steady and enormous drain of wealth from India to England, which has been going on ever since the East India Company first set foot in the land, three hundred years ago, and is going on still with steadily increasing volume. England claims that India pays her no "tribute." Technically, this is true; but, really, it is very far from true. In the form of salaries spent in England, pensions sent to England, interest drawn in England on investments made in India, business profits made in India and sent to England, and various kinds of exploitation carried on in India for England's benefit, a vast stream of wealth ("tribute" in effect) is constantly pouring into England from India. Says Mr. R. C. Dutt, author of the Economic History of India(and there is no higher authority), "A sum reckoned at twenty millions of English money, or a hundred millions of American money [some other authorities put it much higher], which it should be borne in mind is equal to half the net revenues of India, is remitted annually from this country [India] to England, without a direct equivalent. Think of it! One-half of what we [in India] pay as taxes goes out of the country, and does not come back to the people. No other country on earth suffers like this at the present day; and no country on earth could bear such an annual drain without increasing impoverishment and repeated famines. We denounce ancient Rome for impoverishing Gaul and Egypt, Sicily and Palestine, to enrich herself. We denounce Spain for robbing the New World and the Netherlands to amass wealth. England is following exactly the same practice in India. Is it strange that she is converting India into a land of poverty and famine?"

But it is only a part of the wrong done to India that she is impoverished. Quite as great an injustice is her loss of liberty, -- the fact that she is allowed no part in shaping her own political destiny. As we have seen, Canada and Australia are free and self-governing. India is kept in absolute subjection. Yet her people are largely of Aryan blood, the finest race in Asia. There are not wanting men among them, men in numbers, who are the equals of their British masters, in knowledge, in ability, in trustworthiness, in every high quality. It is not strange that many Englishmen are waking up to the fact that such treatment of such a people, of any people, is tyranny: it is a violation of those ideals of freedom and justice which have been England's greatest glory. It is also short-sighted as regards Britain's own interests. It is the kind of policy which cost her her American Colonies, and later came near costing her Canada. If persisted in, it may cost her India.

What is the remedy for the evils and burdens under which the Indian people are suffering? How may the people be relieved from their abject and growing poverty? How can they be given prosperity, happiness, and content?

Many answers are suggested. One is, make the taxes lighter. This is doubtless important. But how can it be effected so long as the people have no voice in their own government? Another is, enact such legislation and set on foot such measures as may be found necessary to restore as far as possible the native industries which have been destroyed. This is good; but will an alien government, and one which has itself destroyed these industries for its own advantage, ever do this? Another is, reduce the unnecessary and illegitimate military expenses. This is easy to say, and it is most reasonable. But how can it be brought about, so long as the government favors such expenses, and the people have no power? Another thing urged is, stop the drain of wealth to England. But what steps can be taken looking in this direction so long ns India has no power to protect herself? It all comes back to this: the fundamental difficulty, the fundamental evil, the fundamental wrong, lies in the fact that the Indian people are permitted to have no voice in their own government. Thus they are unable to guard their own interests, unable to protect themselves against unjust laws, unable to inaugurate those measures for their own advancement which must always come from those immediately concerned.

It is hard to conceive of a government farther removed from the people in spirit or sympathy than is that of India. There has been a marked change for the worse in this respect within the past twenty-five years, since the vice-regal term of Lord Ripon. The whole spirit of the government has become reactionary, increasingly so, reaching its culmination in the recent administration of Lord Curzon. The present Indian Secretary, Lord Morley, has promised improvement; but, so far, the promise has had no realization. Instead of improvement, the situation has been made in important respects worse. There have been tyrannies within the past two years, within the past three months, which even Lord Curzon would have shrunk from. There is no space here to enumerate them.

Fifty years ago the people were consulted and conciliated in ways that would not now be thought of. Then the government did not hesitate to hold before the people the ideal of increasing political privileges, responsibilities, and advantages. It was freely given out that the purpose of the government was to prepare the people for self-rule. Now no promise or intimation of anything of the kind is ever heard from any one in authority. Everywhere in India one finds Englishmen -- officials and others -- with few exceptions -- regarding this kind of talk as little better than treason. The Civil Service of India is reasonably efficient, and to a gratifying degree free from peculation and corruption. But the government is as complete a bureaucracy as that of Russia. Indeed it is no exaggeration to say that, as a bureaucracy, it is as autocratic, as arbitrary in its methods, as reactionary in its spirit, as far removed from sympathy with the people, as determined to keep all power in its own hands, as unwilling to consult the popular wishes, or to listen to the voice of the most enlightened portion of the nation, even when expressed through the great and widely representative Indian National Congress, as is the Russian bureaucracy. Proof of this can be furnished to any amount.

It is said that India is incapable of ruling herself. If so, what an indictment is this against England! She was not incapable of ruling herself before England came. Have one hundred and fifty years of English tutelage produced in her such deterioration? As we have seen, she was possessed of a high civilization and of developed governments long before England or any part of Europe had emerged from barbarism. For three thousand years before England's arrival, Indian kingdoms and empires had held leading places in Asia. Some of the ablest rulers, statesmen, and financiers of the world have been of India's production. How is it, then, that she loses her ability to govern herself as soon as England appears upon the scene? To be sure, at that time she was in a peculiarly disorganized and unsettled state; for it should be remembered that the Mogul Empire was just breaking up, and new political adjustments were everywhere just being made, -- a fact which accounts for England's being able to gain a political foothold in India. But everything indicates that if India had not been interfered with by European powers, she would soon have been under competent governments of her own again.

A further answer to the assertion that India cannot govern herself -- and surely one that should be conclusive -- is the fact that, in parts, she is governing herself now, and governing herself well. It is notorious that the very best government in India to-day is not that carried on by the British, but that of several of the native states, notably Baroda and Mysore. In these states, particularly Baroda, the people are more free, more prosperous, more contented, and are making more progress, than in any other part of India. Note the superiority of both these states in the important matter of popular education. Mysore is spending on education more than three times as much per capita as is British India, while Baroda has made her education free and compulsory. Both of these states, but especially Baroda, which has thus placed herself in line with the leading nations of Europe and America by making provision for the education of all her children, may well be contrasted with British India, which provides education, even of the poorest kind, for only one boy in ten and one girl in one hundred and forty-four. The truth is, not one single fact can be cited that goes to show that India cannot govern herself, -- reasonably well at first, excellently well later, -- if only given a chance. It would not be difficult to form an Indian Parliament to-day, composed of men as able and of as high character as those that constitute the fine Parliament of Japan, or as those that will be certain to constitute the not less able national Parliament of China when the new constitutional government of that nation comes into operation. This is only another way of saying that among the leaders in the various states and provinces of India there is abundance of material to form an Indian National Parliament not inferior in intellectual ability or in moral worth to the parliaments of the Western world.

We have now before us the data for understanding, at least in a measure, the meaning of the "New National Movement in India." It is the awakening and the protest of a subject people. It is the effort of a nation, once illustrious, and still conscious of its inherent superiority, to rise from the dust, to stand once more on its feet, to shake off fetters which have become unendurable. It is the effort of the Indian people to get for themselves again a country which shall be in some true sense their own, instead of remaining, as for a century and a half it has been, a mere preserve of a foreign power, -- in John Stuart Mill's words, England's "cattle farm." The people of India want the freedom which is their right, -- freedom to shape their own institutions, their own industries, their own national life. This does not necessarily mean separation from Great Britain; but it does mean, if retaining a connection with the British Empire, becoming citizens,and not remaining forever helpless subjectsin the hands of irresponsible masters. It does mean a demand that India shall be given a place in the Empire essentially like that of Canada or Australia,with such autonomy and home rule as are enjoyed by these free, self-governing colonies. Is not this demand just? Not only the people of India, but many of the best Englishmen, answer unequivocally, Yes! In the arduous struggle upon which India has entered to attain this end (arduous indeed her struggle must be, for holders of autocratic and irresponsible power seldom in this world surrender their power without being compelled) surely she should have the sympathy of the enlightened and liberty-loving men and women of all nations.

The Atlantic Monthly; October, 1908; The New Nationalist Movement in India; Volume 102, No. 4; pages 526-535
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Iraq
Michael Yon : Men of Valor Part II
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/26/2007 11:03 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency

#1  Thank you.
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Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Annapolis Equals De Facto Recognition of Israel
Posted by: Grunter || 11/26/2007 01:18 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: Global Jihad

#1  The only fly in the ointment is that Jimmy Carter is going to show up and insist on having his say.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 11/26/2007 13:31 Comments || Top||

#2  A tectonic shift has taken place in the Middle East, because suddenly the Arabs and Israel have a common enemy, Khomeinist Iran. The danger posed by Ahmadi-Nejad has eclipsed all the old antagonisms. Ahmadi-Nejad has publicly threatened all the Arab participants -- along with France, Germany, the United States and of course Israel. He's a scary guy, leading a scary regime, which is going to get a scarier very soon. Iran was deliberately excluded from Annapolis.

The Iranian threat is responsible for the long secret talks that have already taken place among the participants. The Saudis, for example, may be sharing intelligence about the Khomeinist regime with the US and Israel. It is virtually certain that Turkey, Egypt and Jordan are doing so. The fact that Syria is going to the Annapolis conference in spite of Israel's bombing of its secret nuclear facility ten weeks ago is remarkable: It suggests that Syria, an Arab regime, is not entirely comfortable in the clutches of the Khomeini regime either.


If the penalty for allowing Iran to go nuclear wasn't so insanely high, it would almost be worth it as an object lesson to all these craven Arab bastards about being really careful when you wish for something. Islam's fascination and obsession with nuclear armaments bears all the hallmarks of a five year-old with its first box of matches.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/26/2007 23:09 Comments || Top||


Olde Tyme Religion
Why Benedict XVI Is So Cautious with the Letter of the 138 Muslims
The author, Sandro Magister, is a preeminent Vatican watcher. A very interesting piece. At the link above, several additional reference links follow the piece.
Because the kind of dialogue he wants is completely different. The pope is asking Islam to make the same journey that the Catholic Church made under pressure from the Enlightenment. Love of God and neighbor must be realized in the full acceptance of religious freedom

ROMA, November 26, 2007 – The letter from the 138 Muslims addressed last month to Benedict XVI and to the heads of the other Christian churches received a spectacular collective reply in a message signed by 300 scholars and published in "The New York Times" on November 18.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: mrp || 11/26/2007 09:43 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You only have to read our Nicene Creed (The Credo) to understand the existing gulf and how difficult it will be for the Pope to do more than say thanks. His more detailed formal response will lay out some of these dichotomies such as our Trinitarian adoration versus the singular of Mohammed. Plus we worship our women via our Mother, the Blessed Virgin (not kill her for honor) and we pray for life everlasting (not martyrdom).
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 11/26/2007 13:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Islamologist Islamapologist John Esposito

There. fixed.
Posted by: Clydelo Fromoethelydo || 11/26/2007 14:29 Comments || Top||

#3  Here's an example from scientific debate which may prove helpful - the nature of light. Light is a particle. No, light is a wave. Modern thought is that light exhibits properties of both. Perhaps the concept of God may be similarly elusive.
Posted by: doc || 11/26/2007 14:31 Comments || Top||

#4  Plus we worship our women ...

No, we don't - just the ground they stand on. :)
Posted by: mrp || 11/26/2007 14:34 Comments || Top||

#5  Yeah, that whole "3=1" thing is what put 'em off the first time. They were good at math back then.
Posted by: mojo || 11/26/2007 16:43 Comments || Top||

#6  With all due apologies to our Catholic friends, but the urgency of the journey was instigated, not by the Enlightenment, but the Reformation. While there was a brief period of persecution of the RCC hierarchy in the Germanic countries, it came to an abrupt halt with the reappearance of Martin Luther from hiding. Contrast with the decades long religious wars between Catholics and Protestants in France that got people so torqued up that the backlash was quite horrific.

Hmph. Apologizing for the Crusades might be well enough, but I have as yet to hear of an apology for the St Bartholomew (sp?) massacre, OR of Cardinal Richilieu's anti-protestant policies. Yeah, nobody's bitching about them to the extent that the Muslims are bitching about the Crusades, but the Protestants aren't the Muslims, even though they were treated like them.

My plugged nickel. I take you back to our regularly scheduled program of the true lowdown on the Fourth World War.
Posted by: Ptah || 11/26/2007 16:53 Comments || Top||

#7  Actually the Enlightenment is at the core if you are careful enough to study your history properly. The Reformation marked the end of the unity of the Church, but the Church did not react to reform itself until the Age of Enlightenment and Age of Reason brought about fundamental threats to the very existence of Christianity, and thus the Catholic Church.

The Enlightenment meant that that "Faith alone" was no longer sufficient, that Reason had to be included, and that free and open practice of other forms (of Christianity) with allowances for the free choice by individuals was a fact (Treaty of Augsburg and later Wesphalia, 1100 years later). The end of the Reformation and beginning of the ENlightenment also mark the end of the Pope and Church as a worldy power with armies and territories - thus the real demarcation of when the Church was forced to deal with being primarily a spiritual and moral power, instead of a military one. Thus the reference the Pope made - Islam is still centered arount the Caliphate and wordly power and armies and wars (Jihad, etc).

This treaty places it firmly in the period of The Enlightenment.

Ptah, you might want to reconsider who was writing those history books you learned the wrong things from. The Refomation set the stage, but the Enlightement really pushed the Chruch into reform and reason, and away from being a worldy power (armies, wars soldiers).


Its not that Liberals don't know anything, its that they know so much that just isn't so. ("Ronaldus Magnus").
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/26/2007 20:43 Comments || Top||

#8  1100 = typo,thats more like 100 years (Augsburg as in the mid 1500s)
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/26/2007 20:45 Comments || Top||

#9  The end of the Reformation and beginning of the ENlightenment also mark the end of the Pope and Church as a worldy power with armies and territories - thus the real demarcation of when the Church was forced to deal with being primarily a spiritual and moral power, instead of a military one.

Take a good look at the above quote, Old Spook: you admit that the process of terminating the power of the RCC finished at the end of the Reformation and the beginning of the Enlightenment. So how, exactly, is something that happened concurrently with a change be the historical, prior cause of the change?

The treaty of Augsberg was in 1555. Martin Luther died in 1546, having started the Reformation decades earlier. The Treaty of Westphalia ENDED a hundred years of RELIGIOUS wars. This, of course, all happened before the Enlightenment (roughly the 18th century). IN short, the reliance of the RCC on military force was checked, and eventually terminated, by the protestants of the Reformation. This created the "reason, not guns" environment that fostered the Enlightenment. The Enlightenment accomplished some real achievements, but doesn't justify crowing about something that your ancestors bequeathed to you as if you created it yourself.
Posted by: Ptah || 11/26/2007 22:44 Comments || Top||

#10  His Regensburg address already made clear exactly how sharp Benedict's mind is. I can only hope he personally vetted the content shown above. If so, I read into it a bit of serious groundwork on—what could just as easily become—some rather forceful replies to Islam.

On the other, one must welcome the true conquests of the Enlightenment, human rights and especially the freedom of faith and its practice, and recognize these also as being essential elements for the authenticity of religion.

Which looks one helluva lot like saying, "If a religion cannot coexist with other faiths, it is not an 'authentic' religion". This would represent a tremendous step towards the stance that Islam might no longer be regarded as a "true" religion and instead, the political ideology that it really is.

is the Muslim world ready to make a similar journey? Is it ready to recognize the religious neutrality of the state, and therefore the equal freedom, within the state, of all the religions?

No. Effing far from it, if even on the same planet. Next question.

He maintains that Islam, in a position of command, remains far from accepting the neutrality of the state, and therefore the full freedom of all religions.

This is where political Islam sheds its sable pelt of religious semblance and unsheathes its military claws.

that country would have the right to close its borders, in self-defense. Because a secular state cannot renounce the "natural law" that is its foundation: "a law induced by membership in a cultural world rooted in the elements of the classical world, Judaism, and Christianity, but reconceived within the context of the Enlightenment

All of which points towards what I have posted about inserting constitutional language forever prohibiting adoption of shari'a law, even by majority vote. Similarly, here we also see the barest glimmerings of a protective Europe going "screens up" against further Muslim intrusion. Much of the above also lays groundwork for the potential declaration of Islam as inimical—if not outright hostile—to constitutional rule of law and thereby sets the stage for some serious containment of both Shari'a and Muslims alike.

All of this—placed under the physical pressure of violent assault, read: "terrorism"—is a precursor to, at least, mass expulsions or, far worse, flat out genocide of the sort that Europe is more than familiar with.

While it would be nice to think that Muslims have perceived this carefully worded statement as a definite warning shot across Islam's bow, such a desirable outcome is less than likely. More probable is that this is but one more opportunity where Islam has missed an opportunity to purchase a clue before Western civilization drops the hammer on its endless aggression. Tough noogies.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/26/2007 22:47 Comments || Top||


VDH responds to Rowan Williams
I suggest that the Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams read a little history about the British experience in India before he offers politically-correct but historically laughable sermons like the one he gave to a Muslim "lifestyle" magazine:

It is one thing to take over a territory and then pour energy and resources into administering it and normalising it. Rightly or wrongly, that's what the British Empire did - in India, for example. It is another thing to go in on the assumption that a quick burst of violent action will somehow clear the decks and that you can move on and other people will put it back together - Iraq, for example.

ONE, who is clearing the decks and moving on? And who are the "other people" putting Iraq back together? Iran? Saudi Arabia? China? The British in Basra? First, we read from the anti-war Left that the US is wasting a trillion dollars and thousands of its lives in Iraq, and yet now that we are clearing the decks and not putting it back together? Which is it?


TWO, Williams should read a little about British military campaigns in India, and then count the corpses.


THREE, he should also tally up the amount of money the U.S. has spent for civic and economic development in Iraq over four years, and then compare that to what Britain invested in any four-year period in their centuries-long occupation of India.


FOUR, I don't recall the British, after their second year in India, fostering nation-wide elections.


FIVE, if he is worried about the soul of civilization in general, and the U.S. in particular, he might equally ask his Muslim interviewers about the status of women in the Muslim world, polygamy, female circumcision, the existence of slavery in the Sudan, the status of free expression and dissent, and religious tolerance (i.e., he should try to visit Mecca on his next goodwill, interfaith tour) .


SIX, all Williams will accomplish is to convince Episcopalians in the U.S. not to follow the Anglican Church, and most Americans in general that, if they need any reminders, many of the loud left-wing British elite, nursed on envy of the US, still petulant over lost power and influence, and scared stiff of the demographic and immigration trends in its own country, are well, unhinged.
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#1  Hear, hear.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/26/2007 0:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?
Posted by: Henry II || 11/26/2007 1:17 Comments || Top||

#3  Iraq and Afghanistan are better off now than they were before the U.S. invasions, and nothing this holy dipshit says will alter that fact.
Posted by: Spuque B. Hayes8037 || 11/26/2007 1:46 Comments || Top||

#4  In a just world, subject to such a rebuttal, Rowan Williams would have difficulty sitting comfortably, let alone excreting for several days, if not weeks.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/26/2007 3:16 Comments || Top||

#5  I agree in general, but I don't equate "freedom" with elections. The Shiites used those elections to establish a huge powerbase. After the Sunnis shunned them, al-Qaeda and other groups began the terror in earnest. You don't see Sunnis dancing around bombed out Hummers anymore, because they view the US as their protector from the Iran backed Shiites, who hold the oil fields along with the Kurds. Those elections were jihad by other means. The Parliament is already pressuring for removal of US occupation troops. It is a time to place US self interest above all other consideration. Unfortunately, the Annapolis process will serve to legitimate political Islam. Only Wahabist and Khomeinist clerics will benefit from any sanction of dictatorship. I don't want jihadis to vote; I want them to die.
Posted by: McZoid || 11/26/2007 4:59 Comments || Top||

#6  VDH responds to eviscerates Rowan Williams

There. Fixed it.
Posted by: Mike || 11/26/2007 9:37 Comments || Top||

#7  Unfortunately, the Annapolis process will serve to legitimate political Islam.

A salient point—especially in light of what resulted from the Palestinian elections—and one that provides a strong argument for imposing military dictatorships over liberated conquered Islamic countries. Those who would enact shari'a law must be denied every opportunity.

Democracy only works among free people. Islam makes no such provisions and perverts any electoral outcome. Albeit, in Iraq the Sunnis slit their own throats by not participating, it is still doubtful in the extreme that anything but harsh military intervention could avert sectarian violence. Yet another demonstration of why democracy is ill-suited to theocratic and extremist societies.

I don't want jihadis to vote; I want them to die.

Bottom line and end of story.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/26/2007 13:10 Comments || Top||

#8  I don't want jihadis to vote; I want them to die.

May I borrow that line for all eternity?
Posted by: DarthVader || 11/26/2007 13:14 Comments || Top||

#9  I don't want jihadis to vote; I want them to die.

Word.
Posted by: Ptah || 11/26/2007 16:57 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Lileks on Redacted
To paraphrase Gore Vidal in a way that would horrify him: it is not enough for the surge to succeed. Brian DePalma must fail. And a heaping helping of FAIL he got, too; his movie took in $6.97, and was less popular than a Sundance-approved documentary about leg-hair tweezing rituals of Belgian nuns, or something. This imdb page had reviews from thoughtful progressives who were able, as I suspect most of their kin were able, to separate their politics from their critical faculties. One of the messages addressed the montage of dead bodies at the end, which is meant to tell us how deeply the director cares about the Iraqi people. Keep in mind that this is a fellow who, in the middle of the Iran-Iraq War, made a movie about a guy who falls in love with a porn star who’s in danger of being killed by a giant scarred Indian who murders women with a giant phallic power drill. The commentor notes something interesting:



As a final indignity, DePalma closes the film with a montage of pictures of dead Iraqis. Before the montage begins, the screen goes black and then the title "Collateral Damage" comes up with the claim "Actual photographs from the Iraq War" printed beneath it, and then the graphic slideshow begins. One problem though... among the real pictures of dead bodies, DePalma inserts some fake ones, including the pregnant woman killed earlier in the film. I have a screening DVD copy. I froze the frame and went back and compared it to the earlier scene in the film. Among DePalma's "Actual photographs from the Iraq War" is a picture of an actress pretending to be dead. And of course, the closing shot in this montage, the picture that is supposed to pull on the audience's heartstrings the most and make them forget the bad movie they just watched, is a fake picture of a bound and murdered rape victim. Look beyond the message... this film is a mess.

This may actually be the first movie example of the fake-but-accurate doctrine.

At Entertainment Weekly I read a review that took special note of the dialogue. Apparently one soldier tells another “You’re so white you wouldn’t wear yourself after Labor Day.” He has the common touch, that DePalma. It's like Ernie Pyle walks among us again.
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#1  Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/26/2007 11:11 Comments || Top||

#2  I find that picture very offensive, if only because I get emails from Nato radar stations operators all the time, telling me they detect the huge amount of Fail I generate, and that I must stop at once, as it screws up with their readings and is potentially harmful to the West's detection of any possible incoming missiles.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/26/2007 11:16 Comments || Top||


The Truth About The Troops
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/26/2007 09:10 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  As objectionable as restrictive ROEs are to the troops at the time, they often pay handsome dividends later.

For example, I remember how even in the 1980s, older Germans were still thanking the Americans for going out of their way to not destroy cathedrals and churches, and other places of great historical value, in World War II.

Everywhere but Dresden, where America is still roundly cursed for annihilating their city.

By still showing respect for mosques, even when they are obviously being used as strongpoints from which to attack, has not been ignored by the Iraqis. They well know that we could have obliterated those mosques, but didn't.

In turn, it shows them that we also value not just the things they value, but that we care what they think. It kills the argument that we are "Christian Crusaders" intent on destroying their religion and culture. Which would have been useful propaganda for our enemies.

Certainly it makes things harder on our troops. But so does agonizing over not shooting when the enemy uses children as human shields.

It really doesn't hurt soldiers morale to not destroy and kill under such circumstances. Because they know, at a very deep level, that this is what makes them better than their enemy. It is harder to be the good guy than the villain.

It is annoying, however.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/26/2007 11:05 Comments || Top||

#2  The USAAF only dropped about 1/3 the tonnage on Dresden. Their aiming point was the rail yards. The Brits with their inaccurate night bombing dropped the majority of the bombs.

Many cities received greater tonnage, but the weather conditions at Dresden and the wooden construction helped intensify the destruction. (Santa Ana anyone)

MORE
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 11/26/2007 13:21 Comments || Top||



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