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Africa North
Arab Spring leads to the rise of Salafism
Posted by: ryuge || 10/07/2012 09:23 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Salafists — whose name comes from the word “Salaf,” meaning ancestor or predecessor — share a common goal of fully implementing Islamic law. But they differ widely on what that means, and on how to get there.

Perhaps that will lead to red-on-red chaos. "You're not Islamic enough!" Bang-bang-bang.

In Egypt, after watching warily from the sidelines of the revolution, Salafists have embraced their role in the new democracy. They launched a dozen television channels and, in upcoming elections, could build on their 25 percent parliamentary minority, allowing them to pressure the Muslim Brotherhood-dominated government to appoint more Salafist cabinet ministers.

Tourism? What's that? They can join their Palestinian brothers in the handout line.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/07/2012 14:27 Comments || Top||


The Grand Turk
Turkey Is Going Down a Highly Dangerous Path
Turkey's retaliation against Syria marks a dangerous new phase in the conflict -- one that threatens to grow into a regional confrontation. That, though, might be what Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan has in mind, say German editorialists on Friday. It could lead to greater Turkish influence in the Middle East.
Pencilneck's shooting artillery into Erdogan's country and killing his citizens. What the hell's he supposed to do?
Retaliatory strikes by Turkey against Syria on Wednesday have created an entirely new dimension to a civil war that now threatens to become a full-fledged regional conflict in the Middle East. The moves by Ankara came after shelling by Syrian forces that killed five women and children in the Turkish border town of Akcakale.

European leaders including German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle have strongly criticized the shelling by Syria. And on Thursday, the United Nations Security Council overcame divisions to issue a statement condemning the shelling "in the strongest terms." The statement, which had been watered down at Russia's behest, said the incident "highlighted the grave impact the crisis in Syria has on the security of its neighbors and on regional peace and stability."

Turkey's intensified role in the crisis is raising serious concerns that the country, a member of NATO, may ultimately drag the rest of its partners into war with Syria by invoking Article Five, which stipulates that all alliance members must come to the defense of any other member country that has been attacked.

On Thursday, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan also sought to assuage concerns his country might be preparing for war. "We as Turkey just want peace and security in our region," he told reporters. "The consequences of war are plain to see in Iraq and Afghanistan."

Syria has not formally apologized to Turkey for the incident, but Russia has said it was given assurances from Damascas that the shelling of Turkey had been a tragic accident, according to wire reports.

Syrian Ambassador to the UN Bashar Ja'afari said Thursday: "The Syrian government is keenly interested in maintaining good neighborly relations with Turkey. The Syrian government is not seeking any escalation with any of its neighbors, including Turkey."

Although there is no indication Ankara will take steps to further escalate hostilities with Syria, worries over that potential outcome still consume the editorial pages of Germany's leading newspapers on Friday.

The leftist Die Tageszeitung writes:

"For decades, Turkish policy tended to be isolationist, with a focus in the country on maintaining what it already had. But this foreign policy abstinence ended when Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu entered office. During his time as foreign minister, Turkish President Abdullah Gül has focused mostly on Turkey's deeper integration into Europe. But Davutoglu has also pushed for a new, more powerful role for the country in regions that include the Middle East and the Balkans -- areas the Ottoman Empire once ruled. Indeed, his opponents accuse him of pursuing neo-Ottoman policies with the aspiration of Turkish dominance in the region with a more modern twist. Initial successes by Davutoglu and Ergogan were jeopardized by the Arab Spring and threaten to collapse completely with the Syrian civil war. That's why the two opposed (Syrian dictator) Bashar Assad at a very early stage. They had hoped that the regime would quickly collapse and that they could play a role in installing his successor. But nothing came of that and now Erdogan is faced with a choice of abandoning his ambitions or raising the stakes."

The center-right daily Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung writes:

"It's apparently true that the shelling of the Turkish border town was indeed a 'tragic accident,' as the Syrian government described it in its apology. Assad cannot feasibly have any interest in starting a military conflict on the border with Turkey. He needs his troops in his own country to hold onto power. A massive Turkish military intervention (with a degree of political support from NATO) would presumably lead to more freed areas in Syria, which could quickly turn into internationally protected safe zones -- which would virtually legitimize the collapse of the Syrian state under international law."

"But Turkey also has little interest in escalating the conflict. The consequences in the entire region would be incalculable and presumably unmanageable: It would threaten a war that would reach the whole Middle East and beyond. Even Assad, who is fighting for his own political survival, is rational enough not to play games with his physical survival as well."

The center-left Süddeutsche Zeitung writes:

"Turkey is in the process of going down a highly dangerous path. It is intervening in a war. With a decision by its parliament this week mandating a deployment of the Turkish military into Syrian territory, the NATO member state has also established the pre-conditions for a highly dangerous internationalization of the Syrian conflict."

"One has to ask what is being served if Turkey becomes an actor in this war? Damascus dictator Assad, who is desperately fighting for his survival, could hardly be so foolhardy as to engage in war with his highly-armed neighbor -- particularly given that he can't be certain how America and NATO will act."

"There was already a lot of saber-rattling back in June, when a Turkish reconaissance jet crashed off the Syrian coast. At the time, nobody had any idea what business the plane actually had flying in the region. And today nobody knows what Turkey's real intentions are. Ankara isn't laying its cards on the table when it comes to its policies toward Syria. That's just making the threat of war even greater."

The conservative Die Welt writes:

"Many people, such as the Syrian rebels, might hope this situation offers Ankara a reason to support the Syrian opposition not only with words, weapons and money, but also with military force. In reality, hardly anyone is interested in allowing the situation to escalate any further. Damascus doesn't want that because the Assad regime needs its soldiers to put down the uprising. Ankara doesn't want that because a large majority of Turks are opposed to it and because Syria would be an opponent to take seriously. If it came to an all-out war, the Syrian army could also use chemical or biological weapons from its well-stocked arsenal. The consequences would be unforeseeable. But NATO also doesn't want to be pulled into a new war in the Middle East and a civil war in Syria with unclear front lines. Europe has enough to do with its economic and currency crisis. And, during its election campaign season, America might not want to be bothered with what's happening in the outside world."

"Under these conditions, everything points toward the situation calming down. Unless, of course, there is an unplanned incident. In the history of the world, there have been many wars that both sides weren't really interested in.... For this reason, it is important that the world makes it clear to the Syrian regime what the risk is if it takes military action against rebels in areas near borders; there is always the danger that stray shells will land on the other side. And, behind the scenes, the NATO partners should warn the Turkish government about becoming a prisoner of its own rhetoric."

The business daily Handelsblatt writes:

"The conflict now threatens to escalate. One shouldn't believe that Turkish Prime Erdogan is acting disinterestedly with his retaliatory strikes or that he only pushed through a kind of enabling act permitting the foreign deployment of his military solely for purposes of making a show. The step means a conscious fuelling of the conflict. NATO now has an avenue for getting into things itself if there are more Syrian encroachments."

"The regime in Damascus is trying to play down the escalation as a 'border incident.' But this rhetorical retreat only means that it has grasped that the restraint thus far shown by the (NATO) alliance partners could soon come to an end. More than anyone, Erdogan holds the key in his hand. If he wants to seize the opportunity and expand his influence, the Middle East will become a powder keg."

The Financial Times Deutschland writes:

"The Syrian attack on Turkish territory has made one thing clear: Each military incident along the border of the two countries could trigger a war. And because Turkey is a NATO member state, it is a war that Germany and the other NATO partners would inevitably get pulled into."

"Diplomacy is still prevailing -- and backstage it is being conducted with hedged statements of support of Turkey but also subdued assurances for Assad. Nonethless, Assad should not doubt NATO's resolve. The military option cannot be ruled out entirely."
Posted by: Steve White || 10/07/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Germans and other NATO members are smart enough to stay out of a Muslim border skirmish, particularly with the Russians sitting on the other end. Syria is likely not going to invade Turkey and everyone knows it. Any misfortune befalling the Turks will be welcomed by the average German I assure you.

The question now is, are we smart enough to stay out of it ?
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/07/2012 6:39 Comments || Top||

#2  The Third Army's smart enough to stay out of it, B.
Posted by: Perfesser || 10/07/2012 7:16 Comments || Top||

#3  Erdogan will do what he wants. This has been his show so far. He needs the diversion because he has many within his own country against him. The economy stinks also. Then a very large area of diverse peoples about them dislike the Turks. They have a history that is still fresh in the minds of others. Erdogan is no Hitler. Those of the time said Hitler pulled the country together out of desperate times. Several areas around the world could produce such a person again in my opinion.We have them now but they are stillborn.
Someone who is very good communicator, population control, create enemies within , media control, are their tools. Most will follow slavishly.Even to the death. Belonging to something greater than themselves. Erdogan doesn't have it. So a long draw out conflict which is good for business which the Turks are renowned for.
Posted by: Dale || 10/07/2012 8:55 Comments || Top||

#4  Yep it's real hard for someone to shoot into a country from the middle of nowhere and or over run one position and turn the weapon didn't Gump hold his own against many?
Posted by: Angiting Snore1647 || 10/07/2012 9:06 Comments || Top||

#5  Germans 4th Reich what is the difference?
Posted by: Angiting Snore1647 || 10/07/2012 9:07 Comments || Top||

#6  Pencilneck's shooting artillery into Erdogan's country and killing his citizens. What the hell's he supposed to do?


Supposed to do? SUPPOSED to do what the Israelis are supposed to do, stand there and take it; or petition the UN.
Posted by: AlanC || 10/07/2012 9:28 Comments || Top||

#7  Syria can send fighters but I suspect Turkey could defend herself now that she's ready. Beyond that all Syria could do is support Kurds. That might be a real pain to the Turks but I suspect it would take longer than Assad has.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/07/2012 9:29 Comments || Top||

#8  Faster please.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/07/2012 12:10 Comments || Top||

#9  I simply cannot believe you are espousing the classic divide and conquer Obama technique g(r)om. :-)
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/07/2012 12:18 Comments || Top||

#10  Obama claims divide & conquer as his invention?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/07/2012 13:33 Comments || Top||

#11  Obama had used that tactic with great success against his republican adversaries. I don't think he ever had a plan for the rest of the world. Then again the world is his friend to be talked to and coddled, not an enemy that might want to dethrone him.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/07/2012 15:05 Comments || Top||

#12  Ya know we keep hearing about how dire a situation Pencilneck is in, but I have yet to see him dead. It's annoying, yet at the same time nice since the Jihadi's are going into a meatgrinder.
Posted by: Charles || 10/07/2012 22:00 Comments || Top||

#13  I simply cannot believe you are espousing the classic divide and conquer Obama technique g(r)om. :-)

I've never figured out the fuss about divide and conquer. The idea seems to be that some evil genius cooks up a scheme to sow discord among a group that was one big happy family. I think it's BS on wheels. If they're one big happy family, how can you sow discord among them? Are they children, that you can distract them by pointing in the air at some imaginary thing while you're rearranging the tableau? Reality is that everyone in the game is trying to get useful allies that he'll try to persuade to fight his battles for him until they're weakened enough for him to stab in the back and take their territory for his own. Reality is not a Hollywood movie. It is a war of all against all.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 10/07/2012 23:27 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Military mindset
[Dawn] LACONIC it may have been, but the army chief's recent statement on Balochistan
...the Pak province bordering Kandahar and Uruzgun provinces in Afghanistan and Sistan Baluchistan in Iran. Its native Baloch propulation is being displaced by Pashtuns and Punjabis and they aren't happy about it...
came across as full of meaning and revealed a disturbing mindset. Before flying off to Moscow, Gen Pervez Kayani
... four star general, current Chief of Army Staff of the Mighty Pak Army. Kayani is the former Director General of ISI...
said the army would support any solution to the Balochistan crisis provided it was "within the constitution". His statement was elaborated upon by an army official when he denied that the army was blocking any political initiative on Balochistan. The army chief's remark came in the wake of Baloch nationalist Akhtar Mengal's appearance in the Supreme Court and the talks he had in Islamabad with some leading politicians culminating in his 'six points'. Whether or not Mr Mengal's nostrum for solving Balochistan's problems is in the interest of the province or the country is for the representatives of the people to decide; unelected institutions need not be officious. On the other hand, Gen Kayani's could have been an off-the-cuff remark. But given the number of times the military has suspended or tampered with the constitution in the past, it is not surprising that not everyone took his words at face value. We hope that the generals have learnt their lesson and stay well within the limits of the constitution.

While space doesn't permit a fuller review of the army's forays into politics and how it made and unmade constitutions, an example or two can be noted. Zia ul Haq
...the creepy-looking former dictator of Pakistain. Zia was an Islamic nutball who imposed his nutballery on the rest of the country with the enthusiastic assistance of the nation's religious parties, which are populated by other nutballs. He was appointed Chief of Army Staff in 1976 by Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, whom he hanged when he seized power. His time in office was a period of repression, with hundreds of thousands of political rivals, minorities, and journalists executed or tortured, including senior general officers convicted in coup-d'état plots, who would normally be above the law. As part of his alliance with the religious parties, his government helped run the war against the Soviets in Afghanistan, providing safe havens, American equipiment, Saudi money, and Pak handlers to selected mujaheddin. Zia died along with several of his top generals and admirals and the then United States Ambassador to Pakistain Arnold Lewis Raphel when he was assassinated in a suspicious air crash near Bahawalpur in 1988...
at least was not being a hypocrite when he proclaimed that the constitution was nothing but a piece of paper he could tear up. What he considered to be his right as a general had already been demonstrated by two army chiefs. A fourth was to follow in 1999. Coinciding with Gen Kayani's remark, a defence ministry official denied before the SC the existence of a political cell in the ISI, a denial that flies in the face of Pakistain's history. As irony would have it, the refutation came during the hearing of the Asghar Khan case in which a former ISI chief has himself placed before the court documents corroborating his assertion that the intelligence agency distributed money among its favourite politicians to create a multiparty alliance and manipulate the 1990 elections. Way back, another ex-ISI chief had also admitted to such tactics.

Army interventions have done enormous harm to Pakistain, militated against the evolution of democratic institutions, eroded the concept of civilian supremacy and corrupted the judiciary. Each time the army quit, the country was left in a greater mess and twice without a constitution (1969 and 1971). Today, the task before all Paks is to consolidate the democratic process.
Posted by: Fred || 10/07/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Getting Involved With Pakistan: Will Russia Risk It?
A walk through the byzantine process that is the Pakistani mind.
[Friday Times] Interior ministers swearing that Pakistain is crawling with foreign spies who kill Pakistain's friends will convince no one in Moscow

Russian President Vladimir Putin
...Second President of the Russian Federation and the first to remain sober. Because of constitutionally mandated term limits he is the current Prime Minister of Russia. His sock puppet, Dmitry Medvedev, was installed in the 2008 presidential elections. Putin is credited with bringing political stability and re-establishing something like the rule of law. During his eight years in office Russia's economy bounced back from crisis, seeing GDP increase, poverty decrease and average monthly salaries increase. During his presidency Putin passed into law a series of fundamental reforms, including a flat income tax of 13%, a reduced profits tax, and new land and legal codes. Under Putin, a new group of business magnates controlling significant swathes of Russia's economy has emerged, all of whom have close personal ties to Putin. The old bunch, without close personal ties to Putin, are in jail or in exile...
has postponed his Pakistain visit scheduled for the first week of October 2012 during which he was to attend a quadrilateral summit of the inter-governmental commission (IGC) on trade, economic, scientific and technical cooperation attended by Russia, Tajikistan, Afghanistan and Pakistain.

The postponement was rather sudden with no credible reasons given which compelled conspiratorial headlines in Pakistain saying America had used Indian pressure to shoo Russia way from Pakistain. (India in fact may have triggered Russia's move to open up with Pakistain by embarking on the road of normalisation with Pakistain.)

China and Russia started the trend of looking to the 'troubled' regions of Afghanistan-Pakistain by inviting Pakistain to the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) summit in 2005. China is already engaged with Pakistain. Russia was to sign this October on its agreement invest $500 million in the CASA-1000 (Central Asia-South Asia) electricity transmission project, besides helping Pakistain in upgradation of Pakistain Steels Mills. Russian energy giant, the state-controlled gas monopoly Gazprom, has been interested in laying the Iran-Pakistain gas pipeline.

If Pakistain can take steps against home-grown extremism it will convince Russia and China that it deserves help to move out of the American orbit
BBC reported in June 2012 that with the US and NATO
...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Originally it was a mutual defense pact directed against an expansionist Soviet Union. In later years it evolved into a mechanism for picking the American pocket while criticizing the cut of the American pants...
set to leave Afghanistan over the next two years, 'power in the region is shifting'. With decline in US influence in the region in sight, Russia and China are reaching out to Pakistain and Afghanistan in a bid to improve economic ties and to secure their southern borders against the spread of Islamic fundamentalism. Russia and China do not disagree with the US on fighting terrorism the same way Pakistain does.

BBC also reported Pakistain's signing of a strategic agreement at the SCO, elevating their relationship with China as China shops for raw material and oil exploration contracts in mineral-rich Afghanistan. China has already secured some oil and copper mining concessions as well as oil prospecting contracts in Northern Afghanistan. Russia, both through the SCO and bilaterally, is willing to offer major help to Afghanistan, such as improving the Salang Tunnel highway.

Both Russia and China remain non-confrontational when it comes to relations with the US, unlike Pakistain where the Army thinks in black and white and is determined to push its Afghanistan policy through Afghan Shura, the Haqqani Network and non state actors doing proxy jihad through acts of terrorism in Afghanistan and India. Russia is a supplier of gas to Europe through pipelines that connect Central Asia to the European Union
...the successor to the Holy Roman Empire, only without the Hapsburgs and the nifty uniforms and the dancing...
To prevent these pipelines from drying up, Russia opposes the Turkmen Afghanistan Pakistain India (TAPI) gas pipeline by aiding Pakistain to complete the Iranian gas pipeline to Pakistain which is stuck because of American sanctions. (China has already taken a big portion of Turkmen gas through one of the longest pipeline in the region it has completed recently.)

Pakistain needs to diversify its foreign policy after decades of fighting Russia's policies in its northwest. It has the right to straighten out its regional rivalries born of its 'Islamic jihad' policies that caused its ISI to back hard boyz to penetrate Central Asian states after they became independent and Russia where Al Qaeda now causes sleepless nights to President Putin and where an intense hatred of Pakistain among the newly Christianised Russian population is in evidence.

Syed Saleem Shahzad wrote on Asia Times Online (Mar 31, 2010): 'Monday's twin suicide kabooms by female bombers in the Moscow metro system in which at least 38 people were killed and 64 injured were most likely planned and executed by people trained in Pakistain's tribal areas'. And Russia knows how Saleem Shahzad was finally killed.

When Gazprom operates in Balochistan and Sindh, its personnel will be targeted by various sorts of terrorism flourishing in Pakistain
China has the potential of taking on the non state actors of Pakistain if they don't leave Xinjiang alone. To let Pakistain know what Chinese and Russian policies are all about, the Chinese leaders have warned President Zardari 'not to break with the US and to avoid taking hardline positions regarding the US and NATO in Afghanistan'.

This must have been music to the ears of President Zardari but not to a strategically manichean Pakistain Army and the madrassa network of Pakistain. While spearheading this move to diversify relations, President Zardari fears for his life for being 'an ally of America' in his own country, as demonstrated by the Memogate case.

While America is likely to finally deal with China as pragmatically as China treats America, after hearing the advice of Henry Kissinger in his book On China (The Penguin Press 2011), Pakistain might endanger itself.

Paks swear by Chinese friendship but on the ground they kill them wherever they find them.
Paks, who look at China as 'a friend against all enemies', are wedded to the conflictual paradigm that Kissinger wants America to eschew. Reports are that India, which is tacitly asked by Paks and sections of the US opinion to look at China as enemy, is thinking more like Kissinger and 'harmony-seeking' China itself. With everyone leaning to the wisdom of relativism in foreign policy, Pakistain may be out of the complex equation because of its strategic reductionism.

After the latest blasphemy madness, Paks may think only in terms of jihad. Some opinion-makers in the US and the establishment in Pakistain who want to see India and China as rivals in Asia are in for a surprise if Kissinger wins his argument.

If Pakistain can take steps against home-grown extremism it will do much to convince Russia and China that it deserves help to move out of the American orbit. But the truth is that Pakistain needs help to tackle the terrorism unleashed by Al Qaeda, the Taliban, the non state actors with links within the establishment, the madrassa network and the armies of youth working in tandem with them in its highly Islamised universities.

It has set up America as enemy number one when asked to 'do more' about these elements. If it treats Russia and China the same way they will simply retreat and secure themselves strongly against its irredentism - something which the West in general and the US in particular might also do after 2014.

Therefore, 'both China and Russia will be happy to see US troops leave Afghanistan, but they are equally worried about the Taliban and other myrmidon groups penetrating Xinjiang province in southern China and the Central Asian republics, whose national security is very much in the hands of Russia'.

The Putin visit is off for the time being but not the visit of General Kayani
... four star general, current Chief of Army Staff of the Mighty Pak Army. Kayani is the former Director General of ISI...
to Moscow. Pakistain's foreign policy is run by him and he has recently put his life on the line by saying in Abbottabad
... A pleasant city located only 30 convenient miles from Islamabad. The city is noted for its nice weather and good schools. It is the site of Pakistain's military academy, which was within comfortable walking distance of the residence of the late Osama bin Laden....
on 14 August 2012 that Pakistain was threatened from within rather than from the outside. More dangerously, he said the war against terrorism (extremism) was Pakistain's own war.

It offended everyone including the Defence of Pakistain Council of non state actors linked to the Army; and offended the Haqqani Network he is sheltering in North Wazoo. The Army quickly denied that it ever wanted to attack North Waziristan to fight Pakistain's war against terrorism. But that doesn't wash with the terrorists.

Paks swear by Chinese friendship but on the ground they kill them wherever they find them. They have killed them in Balochistan, in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa
... formerly NWFP, still Terrorism Central...
and in the Tribal Areas. When Lal Masjid got after them in Islamabad, and the Chinese complained officially, the nation finally sided with Lal Masjid, not with China.

When Gazprom operates in Balochistan and Sindh, its personnel will be targeted by various sorts of terrorism flourishing in Pakistain in the shadow of Pakistain's Afghan policy. Interior ministers swearing that Pakistain is crawling with foreign intelligence - read CIA, Mossad and RAW - killing Pakistain's friends will convince no one in Moscow. Will Russia risk it?
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/07/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Pakistain needs help to tackle the terrorism unleashed by Al Qaeda, the Taliban, the non state actors with links within the establishment, the madrassa network and the armies of youth working in tandem with them in its highly Islamised universities.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/07/2012 1:04 Comments || Top||

#2  What a glorious train wreck of a country!

Involved? Nah, He is just stirring the pot a bit. While the Russians are great chess players, Vlad also has some judo skillz.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/07/2012 1:08 Comments || Top||

#3  Should we warn Russia about the Herpes problem our Ex has?
Posted by: Shipman || 10/07/2012 7:27 Comments || Top||

#4  If we were at Peace with Afghanistan like the smart people say why did all those planes hit their targets in the United States anyways?
Posted by: Angiting Snore1647 || 10/07/2012 9:12 Comments || Top||


Time for introspection
[Friday Times] Some Moslem leaders in Europe say violent protests in Pakistain are not in line with the teachings of Islam
Others, of course, are preaching car-b-que and jihad...
You are "a flight risk and a danger to the community", a US federal magistrate told Nakoula Basseley - the man behind the controversial video Innocence of Moslems - before sending him to jail. There were violent protests against the video across the Moslem world that left dozens dead, including US ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens, who was killed by a mob in Benghazi.

The video was condemned by world leaders including US President Barack Obama
My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it...
, who called it "crude" and "disgusting" during his address to the 67th Annual Meeting of the UN General Assembly. He said it was an insult not just to the Moslem world, but also to the United States of America. But he also criticised those who justify violence in the name of Islam, urging world leaders to unite against forces of Evil across the globe.

Europe, where Moslems have often been the point of debate on issues ranging from immigration to integration and security, the protests in London, Madrid, Athens and Switzerland
...home of the Helvetians, famous for cheese, watches, yodeling, and William Tell...
were relatively peaceful. But far right European groups, whether Moslems or non-Moslems, are rarely seen to avoid exploiting such opportunities to create problems amongst communities and religions.

Despite facing challenging problems like closed ethnic neighbourhoods, certain elements calling for a Sharia Law to be imposed in Europe, and tensions on Moslem women wearing veils, peaceful protests by European Moslems were hailed by community leaders.

Moslem scholars and leaders in Britannia were shocked and surprised over the violent protests against the video that hijacked Pakistain for half a day and left dozens of families devastated.

Newly appointed cabinet member of the British House of Lords, Lord Tariq Ahmad, stated the violent reactions cannot be justified by Islamic teachings, and that Prophet Muhammad ((PTUI!)) was the symbol of patience and forgiveness.

"Violent reactions only empower those who always intend to create chaos across the world through their hate speeches," he said.

A majority of the violent protesters in Pakistain were reportedly young people who can easily be influenced by extreme right wing groups and hate preachers, many of whom are often unaware of the motive behind the riots.

"Violence against your own people only reflects the bitter truth that something is definitely going wrong in your society"
Lord Tariq Ahmad urged upon the Pak youth to get involved in debates and logical arguments with those who try to disrespect their religious beliefs, adding, "Violence against your own people only reflects the bitter truth that something is definitely going wrong in your society."

"I would urge the religious scholars in Pakistain to think twice before they deliver speeches on sensitive issues like this," said Mufti Aslam, chief of Jamaat Ulema Bartanya. "In today's geo-political situation, greater responsibility lies on the shoulders of the Imams of our mosques." He said Prophet Muhammad ((PTUI!)) preached humanity, forgiveness and patience all his life and it was wrong of those who claim to be his followers to harm others, referring to the violent protests in Pakistain.

Mufti Muhammad Aslam says it had become very easy to provoke the Moslem community across the world. "It is beyond my imagination how someone could claim practicing Prophet Muhammad ((PTUI!))'s principles and his teachings by killing innocent people and looting their properties," he said. "We should reflect to the world that we believe in peace, non-violence and tolerance for other religions."

In the Mideast, leader of Leb's powerful Hezbollah movement Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah's calls for demonstrations to express the outrage at the film triggered unrest from Tunisia to Indonesia. Protests across Mideast involved attacks on Western embassies. Western experts and leaders referred to the violent reaction as a battle between democratic and reactionary forces. Former British prime minister and now UN Peace Envoy for the Mideast Tony Blair condemned both the inflammatory video and the violent reaction to it. "We should not lose sight of what the real issue is," he told BBC Radio-4. "How do people actually think it is justified to react in a way that ends up in innocent people being killed?"

In a concept paper on blasphemy laws, Osama Hassan of the Quilliam Foundation says the Islamic "tradition of openness and generosity desperately needs to be revived in Moslem majority countries and societies today, especially given the appalling amount of violence generated by religious intolerance".
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/07/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Some Muslim leaders in Europe say violent protests in Pakistain are not in line with the teachings of Islam

Any bets on their life expectancy?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/07/2012 8:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Some Moslem leaders in Europe say violent protests in Pakistain are not in line with the teachings of Islam

But they are... useful.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/07/2012 9:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Some Muslim leaders in Europe say violent protests in Pakistain are not in line with the teachings of Islam

translation - quiet down a bit, we're still a minority here unable yet to cow the kaffir into submission. Don't show our hand before its time to play it.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/07/2012 10:00 Comments || Top||


US winks again at Pakistani terror tactics
As it has happened in the past, Pakistan has been spared the rod by the United States for its international transgressions, this time for its continued patronage of terrorism in the region, in the interest of what Washington believes is American national security. The US state department last month waived legal requirements that made its nearly $ 2 billion annual aid to Pakistan contingent on its cooperation in counter-terrorism, ending nuclear proliferation and building democratic institutions, a Congressional Research Service (CRS) report released recently has revealed.

Secretary of state Hillary Clinton is said to have informed Congress, which has mandated the restriction subject to a national security waiver, that she is setting aside legal restrictions that would have blocked the $2 billion in US economic and military assistance. The waiver is evidently linked to securing Pakistan's cooperation in the upcoming US withdrawal from Afghanistan and preventing all all-out civil war in the country once the US leaves. A blunt way of putting it would be the US is trying to buy peace in the region on its way out while Pakistan is blackmailing Washington with its ability to create trouble in the land-locked country.

According to the latest report, Clinton, in her September 13 message to Congress, said she is waiving provisions of the 2009 Enhanced Partnership with Pakistan Act (EPPA) and the state department's 2012 budget requiring that she certify that Islamabad has met certain conditions before the $2 billion in economic, military and counter-terrorism assistance can be disbursed. The wording of the legislation, while not mentioning India, makes it implicitly clear that Pakistan has to cease using terrorism against its neighbors. Clinton's waiver suggests it has not.

But despite the enormous mistrust between the two sides, mostly engendered by the Pakistani military-security-intelligence establishment, both governments appear to be striving to bring ties back on the rails, at least on the civilian side, even as Pakistan's military establishment is reaching out to Moscow.

On Friday, Washington hosted a meeting of the law enforcement and counterterrorism working group aimed at disrupting illicit networks in Pakistan that supply the components and financing for improvised explosive devices (IEDs). Pakistan's interior minister Rehman Malik was told of "the danger these devices pose to Pakistan as well as Afghan, US, and coalition forces working to establish stability and security in Afghanistan." While the usual commitments were made to address such issues, US concerns center around whether the Pakistani civilian establishment has the wherewithal to deliver on its pledges at a time the country's military has embarked on a path of courtship of Russia. While Rehman was visiting Washington, the country's military strongman Pervez Ashfaq Kayani, was on a four-day visit to Moscow, after several attempts to schedule a visit to the US had failed.
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THERE IS NO HYPERINFLATION IN IRAN
h/t gates of Vienna
Contrary to reports, there is no hyperinflation in Iran right now at all.

In fact, the Western sanctions imposed on Iran's oil trade are failing miserably to meet their objectives.
Until their central bank runs out of dollars...
And a regime collapse -- or even, coming short of that, another popular uprising reminiscent of June 2009 -- seems further away from Iran than ever.
Meanwhile, the Iranian regime is using the current sanctions imposed against it by the West as a weapon to weaken its own fiercest domestic threat -- the educated, relatively pro-Western Iranian constituency that comprises the middle class.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/07/2012 09:38 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...a weapon to weaken its own fiercest domestic threat -- the educated, relatively pro-Western Iranian constituency that comprises the middle class.

Interesting, the Donks have a similar program in the US against the quickly declining educated, relatively pro-Western constituency that comprises the middle class. Authoritarians think and act alike.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/07/2012 9:57 Comments || Top||

#2  yes the general inflation rate is currently "only" about 30% (official rate is about 20%) and 'only' increasing marginally from the previous year

but on some things the rate is much higher and the acceleration is higher

The problem is the definition of the word 'hyperinflation'.

Posted by: lord garth || 10/07/2012 15:00 Comments || Top||

#3  United States 3 to 4 times as much for basics and smaller quantities and a weaker dollar it's global like their GREEN MOVEMENT except the lie here is not democracy it is better energy kinda like ethanol more for less! Just another GHOUL PLAN gone hay wire is all!
Posted by: Angiting Snore1647 || 10/07/2012 19:27 Comments || Top||

#4  The whole t2p thing and bombarding the places and locations ain't working out to well for the GHOUL SQUAD!
Posted by: Angiting Snore1647 || 10/07/2012 19:28 Comments || Top||



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