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Britain
Mark Steyn: Harry a Nazi? You're having a laugh
He begins:
It's a good rule of thumb that, no matter how big an idiot someone is, he can never compete with the political class's response to his idiocy. Thus, whatever feelings of unease I might have had about Prince Hitler were swept away the moment the rent-a-quote humbugs started lining up to denounce him.

I say to Harry: you go, girlfriend, you Reichstone Cowboy you. It's uniforms night at my pad every Thursday and you're more than welcome, Your Royal Heilness.

etc... go read the whole Steyn thing :-)

Not to spoil it, but here's the blowoff:
Alas, tyranny doesn't always come with a self-evidently hilarious dress code. And the soft, supple, creeping totalitarian inclinations of our present-day rulers are sometimes harder to resist. If I had to pick the single most revolting remark from this bogus Reichsfuror, it would be this: "I think it might be appropriate for him to tell us himself just how contrite he now is."

That's Michael Howard, the leader of the supposed Conservative Party. What's conservative about demanding people submit to public self-abasement? Wasn't it the Commies who used to insist you recant on TV and then disappear into re-education camp? A conservative party ought to be a refuge from the sanctimonious nannytollahs of the age. But, from his shabby Kerryesque opportunism on the war down, Mr Howard has no discernible coherent political philosophy - except for his all-pervasive authoritarianism, into which his repellent call for a display of princely contrition fits all too neatly.

Since Britain seems to hold three-minute silences for something or other every month now, maybe for the next one we could all get together and Prince Harry, in uniform, and his father, in mufti, can lay a wreath to mark the tragic loss of our sense of proportion.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/18/2005 2:52:35 PM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I love him...Mark Steyn. XXXOX

My thoughts exactly - stupid for a prince - yes. But BFD. I've seen a million people dressed as Hitler at Halloween. Mountain meet molehill.
Posted by: 2b || 01/18/2005 17:27 Comments || Top||

#2  The good fallout might be that the UK kids ask WTF is the big deal -- and learn something about the Holocaust. That would be an improvement over the norm, I'm sure.
Posted by: .com || 01/18/2005 20:07 Comments || Top||

#3  Imagine the fallout if the prince had dressed in a burkah. Or, as an imam....
Posted by: Pappy || 01/18/2005 21:09 Comments || Top||

#4  What .com said. His Royal Dopeyness doesn't shock anyone; what's truly astonishing is the ~50% of young Britons who've never heard of the holocaust. Now they will.
Posted by: lex || 01/18/2005 21:27 Comments || Top||

#5  I'd say that the real outrage is that 50% of young Britons never heard of the holocaust, if that's true. Do they not teach history? And BBC - you're worthless too.
Posted by: 2b || 01/18/2005 22:31 Comments || Top||


Fifth Column
A televisual fairyland
LLL Monbiot's good for a giggle, Via Lucianne:

The US media is disciplined by corporate America into promoting the Republican cause


On Thursday, the fairy king of fairyland will be recrowned. He was elected on a platform suspended in midair by the power of imagination. He is the leader of a band of men who walk through ghostly realms unvisited by reality. And he remains the most powerful person on earth.
How did this happen? How did a fantasy president from a world of make believe come to govern a country whose power was built on hard-headed materialism? To find out, take a look at two squalid little stories which have been concluded over the past 10 days.

The first involves the broadcaster CBS. In September, its 60 Minutes programme ran an investigation into how George Bush avoided the Vietnam draft. It produced memos which appeared to show that his squadron commander in the Texas National Guard had been persuaded to "sugarcoat" his service record. The programme's allegations were immediately and convincingly refuted: Republicans were able to point to evidence suggesting the memos had been faked. Last week, following an inquiry into the programme, the producer was sacked, and three CBS executives were forced to resign.

The incident couldn't have been more helpful to Bush. Though there is no question that he managed to avoid serving in Vietnam, the collapse of CBS's story suggested that all the allegations made about his war record were false, and the issue dropped out of the news. CBS was furiously denounced by the rightwing pundits, with the result that between then and the election, hardly any broadcaster dared to criticise George Bush. Mary Mapes, the producer whom CBS fired, was the network's most effective investigative journalist: she was the person who helped bring the Abu Ghraib photos to public attention. If the memos were faked, the forger was either a moron or a very smart operator.

--SNIP--
Posted by: anonymous2u || 01/18/2005 12:04:08 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The US media is disciplined by corporate America into promoting the Republican cause.

If true, then it's 'bout g*ddam time.

On Thursday, the fairy king of fairyland will be recrowned. He was elected on a platform suspended in midair by the power of imagination.

That must be the Deomcratic Party platform and John Kerry's campaign you mean.

He is the leader of a band of men who walk through ghostly realms unvisited by reality.

Two months after an election and the left continues to deny what has happened. Who is living in unrealty?

And he remains the most powerful person on earth.

Isn't it terrible? A plain spoken man with a backbone welding power Constitutionally.

How did this happen? How did a fantasy president from a world of make believe come to govern a country whose power was built on hard-headed materialism?

Whoa, baby. Take a course in Economics 101 before you twist that into an accusation.

To find out, take a look at two squalid little stories which have been concluded over the past 10 days.

Squalid because the left was deeply involved in it and little because the fifth column press is too embarassed to give it the play it deserves.

The first involves the broadcaster CBS. In September, its 60 Minutes programme ran an investigation into how George Bush avoided the Vietnam draft. It produced memos which appeared to show that his squadron commander in the Texas National Guard had been persuaded to "sugarcoat" his service record. The programme’s allegations were immediately and convincingly refuted: Republicans were able to point to evidence suggesting the memos had been faked. Last week, following an inquiry into the programme, the producer was sacked, and three CBS executives were forced to resign.

The incident couldn’t have been more helpful to Bush. Though there is no question that he managed to avoid serving in Vietnam,


There wasn't? Then why the fake memos?

the collapse of CBS’s story suggested that all the allegations made about his war record were false,

Funny how that works. You lie and all the other 'facts' which support the lie gets called into question.

and the issue dropped out of the news. CBS was furiously denounced by the rightwing pundits, with the result that between then and the election, hardly any broadcaster dared to criticise George Bush. Mary Mapes, the producer whom CBS fired, was the network’s most effective investigative journalist: she was the person who helped bring the Abu Ghraib photos to public attention.

If Mapes leaked the Abu Ghraib photos to the press then that fact alone justifies the firing of this fifth columnist. But the writer fails to mention Mapes was a leftist with an agenda and the full resources of a worldwide news organization and she still couldn't get her story right because it was a lie.

If the memos were faked, the forger was either a moron or a very smart operator.

I vote moron.
Posted by: badanov || 01/18/2005 6:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Monbiot sounds French for Moonbat. Must be a Rovian ploy.
Posted by: 2b || 01/18/2005 10:49 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Exposing CBS
"[N]o one had provided persuasive evidence that the documents were not authentic."Dan Rather

"[T]he Panel stresses that it is making no findings as to the authenticity of the Killian documents;... it may never be possible for anyone to authenticate or discredit the documents." Report of the 60 Minutes independent panel

It's time to drive a stake into this continuing saga less it become the new grassy knoll for the left-wing pundits and blogosphere. I accept the challenge. While the public debate has exposed these creative forgeries by focusing on the peculiarities of type fonts and signatures, the fatal flaw is in the inconceivability of the documents themselves. While a doctoral dissertation could be written (and probably will) on the issue, space constrains us to the most salient points. Thus we will take just one of these famous memos and prove it to be a fake. By extrapolation, one could take that to the remaining five when editorial space becomes available.

The selected memo is that dated May 4, 1972, wherein the late Lt. Col. Jerry Killian orders 1st Lt. Bush to report for a flight physical not later than May 14. This memo is the most expository of the memo forgeries for several reasons. First, while the other five memos may be considered Mr. Killian's memos to self, and thus personal musings never intended for distribution, this particular memo is posited as a direct order to 1st Lt. Bush, mailed to his (wrong) home address. It was used obsessively by CBS and Bush opponents in the campaign as evidence of his refusal to obey a direct order. If any criminal or civil liabilities for fraud or forgery of government documents obtain, they would be most applicable to this document.

So, putting aside the typos, the superscripts, the signatures, the wrong header and address, and all the previously dissected items susceptible to subjective interpretations, how do I prove this memo is a fake? Easy — for the weekend that 1st Lt. Bush was supposedly ordered to report for his physical, May 13-14, 1972, the Ellington Air Guard Base was closed. It was Mother's Day. Except for emergencies, Air Guard units never drilled on Mother's Day; the divorce lawyers would be waiting at the gate. If George Bush showed up at the clinic that weekend, he would have had to get the key from the gate guard.

The drill weekend for May 1972 was the following weekend, May 20-21. A survey of the pay and flight records of several of the Texas Air Guard members of that period shows no activity for May 13-14, but drill pay vouchers and flights for May 20-21. Guard flight physicals were normally conducted on the drill weekends, because that is the only time all the required clinic personnel were on hand to complete lab work and flight surgeon consultations mandated for aircrew. Does anyone think that Jerry Killian, squadron commander and one of the drill-schedule planners would not know on May 4 that the clinic was closed the next weekend?

While CBS, in its rush to judgment, might have missed this fatal flaw in the Burkett memo, its investigative law firm, Kirkpatrick & Lockhart Nicholson Graham LLP, cannot be excused. Why? Because one of their investigating lawyers was informed of this fact on Nov. 15 and given a list of seven witnesses who worked in the same offices with Jerry Killian every day in 1972. (Disclosure statement: I was the source.) The panel report makes no mention of this, and a canvass of most of the witness list reveals no contact attempt by Kirkpatrick & Lockhart. CBS paid Kirkpatrick & Lockhart big bucks for this report. As brilliantly explained by Tony Blankley ("Damage Control at Black Rock," his Jan.12 column), if Kirkpatrick & Lockhart's aim was an attorney's protection of its client, intentional ignorance was a good strategy.

The lesson here: If you are a big media entity with a political agenda and have reporters with a five-year obsession to get George Bush on his Guard service even if it means using fake documents from an incredible source (hint to USA Today) get Kirkpatrick & Lockhart. If you want the unambiguous truth, look in the yellow pages for a good but inexpensive private investigator.

William Campenni, an engineer living in Herndon, Virginia, served as a pilot in the Texas Air National Guard in the early 1970s.
Posted by: Steve || 01/18/2005 4:21:39 PM || Comments || Link || [26 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wish this article really would put a stake in this story; unfortunately, this tale is a creature that will probably rise up from the dead everytime moonbats gather to curse Bush's name.
Posted by: Jonathan || 01/18/2005 16:49 Comments || Top||

#2  As I stated earlier, the Commander does not direct flight physicals, you get a rip (paper work) from the clinic that tells you that you need one. Also if the Commander orders you to the clinic because he suspects you are using drugs, you go right then and there (Officers included). Finally, if you were CD to a 'whiz-quiz' you also were informed why. Steve I am sure you remember the rips from the Dental/Medical clininc? Green/white computer paper?
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 01/18/2005 17:14 Comments || Top||

#3  "..it may never be possible for anyone to authenticate or discredit the documents."

Er, Mr. Campenni's doing it again, needlessly.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 01/18/2005 18:38 Comments || Top||

#4 
Posted by: .com || 01/18/2005 18:41 Comments || Top||

#5  My sediments exactly, .com...
Posted by: Dave D. || 01/18/2005 18:46 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
4 Slain and the Media is Silent
Posted by: tipper || 01/18/2005 10:20 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The media has ignored the slaughter of Christians since the early 70's. This is nothing new. What is new is that the blogosphere can report it outside the local area. Were it not for the blogosphere, you wouldn't be aware of this murder.
Posted by: 2b || 01/18/2005 10:41 Comments || Top||

#2  The American LLL MSM does seem to be on an unstoppable stampede towards total irrelevancy.
Posted by: Bulldog || 01/18/2005 10:42 Comments || Top||

#3  Seems you have the same problem as we do in the UK... undeniably some of the UK media sideline stories that show religious/ethnic minorities in a bad light and instead allow us to feed on the cult of personality ... The Beckhams, the Royals etc... in order to shield us from the painful reality. I live in the same area of London where the infamous but much trumpeted Stephen Lawrence murder occurred - a similar murder occurred recently with a reverse racial profile: 4 Afro-Caribbean men attacked a lone white male. Was it reported - even tho it occurred in a busy supermarket car park at 4 in the afternoon? - Not a chance!! Seems to be a similar conspiracy here.
Posted by: Howard UK || 01/18/2005 10:47 Comments || Top||

#4  All this tip-toeing by the MSM concerning Christian killing has been pissing me off for a long time. I am surprised to see that even Fox News is walking on rice paper on this one.

Not too long ago, there was a bombing in Soddy that killed quite a bit of Lebanese people. What the MSM wack job failed to report, is that these Lebanese were Christians.


I encourage everyone at RB to read this article for some further insight into what most of RB knows already
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 01/18/2005 11:03 Comments || Top||

#5  the MSM understands that there is no such thing as negative publicity. Thus for years, they have completely ignored religion - all faiths.

TV shows - all are almost completely void of any references to going to church, synagogue, prayer, or belief in God, despite the fact that there are churches and synagogues on every corner in America - and people fill them.

Radio - despite 500 years worth of the best songs being passed down in churches and synagogues - you will almost NEVER ever hear any of that music on the radio. Think- other than the occassional "amazing grace" sung by a really BIG star that can do whatever they want - when was the last time you heard any of the beautiful and popular religious songs on the radio. It's not because people don't like it - it's been purposely ignored.

NEWS STORIES - never a peep about ANYTHING religious. Christian and Jewish people murdered/massacred in sectarian violence are always ignored by the MSM.

And they ignore it for good reason..if you ignore it, it doesn't exist. And when it can't be ignored the focus will be on something else - American Hegemony or Zionist occupation. No publicity - none because the MSM understands that there is no such thing as negative publicity.

MSM/radio/Hollywood ignores religion to the degree that it simply cannot be an oversight.

What I find to be most interesting right now is the endless discussions by the left sniping about "Jesus Land" or "morality". This has to be because the lefty bloggers didn't get the memo that by simply acknowledging Jesus land - you promote it.
Posted by: 2b || 01/18/2005 11:31 Comments || Top||

#6  I'm not convinced it's hostility to christians that's motivating editors' relative silence here.

Given the incompetence and tendency toward sensationsalism of the MSM, it's a good thing that they're holding back on reporting this. Would you want these jokers to mangle the story and get it wrong? How would that help public awareness of what exactly we're up against?

Patience. Let the FBI investigation go forward and let the facts come out in due course.
Posted by: lex || 01/18/2005 11:42 Comments || Top||

#7  You could be sure that if the victims were Moslems it would be 24/7 news.
Posted by: 2b || 01/18/2005 11:46 Comments || Top||

#8  No doubt 2b, the MSM would put this country through a month long, non-stop anal examination.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 01/18/2005 11:50 Comments || Top||

#9  anal examination lol!

If it fits the white/Judeo/Christian oppressor theme, it will get endless airtime.
Posted by: 2b || 01/18/2005 11:51 Comments || Top||

#10  I think you're missing the point here. MSM journalists' incompetence rises in direct proportion to their ignorance of the particular social group or social activity under examination. It's bad enough when MSM morons try to figure out what's happening within the evangelical community, but in this case we're talking about a feud within an arab community that is even more of a black box to MSM editors and journos than evangelicals are. These people have no sources or insight into that community.

The chances that they would screw up the story at this stage are close to 100%. I'm not bothered at all that these clowns are not mangling the story.
Posted by: lex || 01/18/2005 12:05 Comments || Top||

#11  I agree and disagree lex. Ignorance alone doesn't explain the fact that true slavery and Christian massacres have been 100% ignored. It also doesn't explain why the music industry ignores beautiful and popular religious music.

Pat Boone's neice gave up a lucrative career in music because she refused to sign a contract that prohibited her from singing Christian music.

It's not just Christians that are ignored - it's GOD in general. They give Muslim deaths the airplay only in the context of white/Judeo/Christian oppressors.
Posted by: 2b || 01/18/2005 12:13 Comments || Top||

#12  prohibited from singing Christian songs , huh? Anybody tell Elvis? Johnny Cash?
Posted by: Frank G || 01/18/2005 12:20 Comments || Top||

#13  Here's another reason to welcome the MSM's silence on this: here's a chance for the blogosphere and talk radio to research this and develop and put forward sources and insights in the MSM's stead. A test case of sorts for the blogosphere.
Posted by: lex || 01/18/2005 12:23 Comments || Top||

#14  I think Johhny Cash and Elvis qualify as "big stars" who can do whatever they want...as I said above.

Besides - country music gets more of a pass because it is/was a whole different industry.
Posted by: 2b || 01/18/2005 12:25 Comments || Top||

#15  lex...I agree.

One last point - I used to tune into the 700 Clubs (and yes...I think whatever his name is ..pat roberts? is a flaming moron) but their World Report had these absolutely fantastic stories about slavery, christian genocide, et al that were just world class. I remember one in particular about Jewish Doctors who performed surgery on Palestinian children - for free. It was one of the most dramatic and touching doc's I've ever seen...the footage and stories was top notch.

So, it's not like the stories weren't out there to be told. They were just ignored.
Posted by: 2b || 01/18/2005 12:31 Comments || Top||

#16  I like your point in #13 lex, I think (hope) we're already seeing it.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 01/18/2005 12:33 Comments || Top||

#17  2b - plus they're dead, lol. By and large, the christian "rock" I've heard is pretty sad stuff. None of the heart and intensity that gospel music had.
Posted by: Frank G || 01/18/2005 12:40 Comments || Top||

#18  I'm not talking about "Christian Rock", I gotta agree with you on that one. I'm talking about the good stuff . The songs that have made people sing along for more than half a millennium.
Posted by: 2b || 01/18/2005 12:43 Comments || Top||

#19  Don't you ever wonder why you never heard the Supremes or any of the soul groups sing favorite gospel songs on popular radio? They would have been instant hits!
Posted by: 2b || 01/18/2005 12:46 Comments || Top||

#20  The media has ignored the slaughter of Christians since the early 70's
I agree with 2b. MSM purposely ignores bad things happening to Christians, and play up bad things done by Christians. This is a very different from the way news stories are handled regarding visible minorities and other religious groups including Muslims and Jews. With regards to the latter, the MSM will make criticisms directed at Sharon's and Israel's policies, but the Jewish religion is not blackballed as per what is done with Christianity.

If there was a chance that this Egyptian family had been slaughtered by a straight white male Christian, it would have been front page news, regardless of how far along the FBI's investigation had come.
Posted by: 2xstandard || 01/18/2005 12:47 Comments || Top||

#21  Flipping around the dial I heard an Eddie Vetter-like voice growling and moaning, with grungy guitar riffs accompanying, about how he "searched for yewwwwwwwww, i missssssed you, i was there fer yewwwwww but yew weren't therrrrrrrre..."

It was the local Christian grunge station. Very entrepreneurial.
Posted by: lex || 01/18/2005 12:48 Comments || Top||

#22  thanks 2x.

Lex...Frank G..you telling me that you a rousing rendition of Hava Nagila wouldn't make sing along in the shower? I'm not just talking about Christian music here.
Posted by: 2b || 01/18/2005 12:51 Comments || Top||

#23  oops..sorry about the grammer...my point is that religious music - popular religious music is conspicuoulsy missing from the airwaves in a way that does Stalin proud....unless it is sung by a very big star. Why is that? It's not because it wouldn't make the charts.
Posted by: 2b || 01/18/2005 12:56 Comments || Top||

#24  Hmmm, I don't think there's a concerted effort, as you seem to say, just a down cycle in the music theme? P.O.D. does hard rock with Christian themes, and they're good, and they get airtime, but as you say, they're the exception, rather than the rule.
Posted by: Frank G || 01/18/2005 13:03 Comments || Top||

#25  Sometimes, the lyrics matter more to you; sometimes, the music. Depends on your mood and what stage of life you're at, I think. I would listen to Christian musicians, even if I didn't walk step in step with their beliefs (as expressed through the lyrics), as long as the music was remarkable.
Posted by: Jules 187 || 01/18/2005 13:04 Comments || Top||

#26  I gotta go..but I would say that it is, at the very least, interesting that all references God are wiped clean from the TV, news and radio. Which gets back to the story posted here....they just won't cover it unless it has a negative angle.

Endless coverages for molesting priests but NEVER a word about feeding the hungry, housing the homeless or caring for the elderly. Don't you ever wonder why?
Posted by: 2b || 01/18/2005 13:09 Comments || Top||

#27  2b - I think that the entertainment industry realizes that its "target audience" would most likely just sneer at the sound of true gospel music being played because it is what they have been trained to do. With a generation today that spends more time in front of a television screen than with their families the entertainment business has a total monopoly on the collective minds of the youth of this nation. They will listen to what they are told to listen to and they will buy what they are told to buy.
Posted by: J || 01/18/2005 13:11 Comments || Top||

#28  by negative angle - I mean anti-white/Judeo/Christian angle.
Posted by: 2b || 01/18/2005 13:15 Comments || Top||

#29  entertainment business has a total monopoly on the collective minds of the youth of this nation
Yes. Agree. And GOD has been wiped clean from that, despite the fact that 90% believe.

But you don't have to believe in God to think it odd that they won't cover stories about Slavery in Africa, Christian genocide or play really good Gospel on the air. I'll sing along to foreign music that I can't even understand... so it's not the words that are at issue here.

I think I've pounded my thought to the ground and I really do have to go. But if you think about it - it really is very odd.
Posted by: 2b || 01/18/2005 13:24 Comments || Top||

#30  Sometimes, the lyrics matter more to you; sometimes, the music. Depends on your mood and what stage of life you're at,



At the cross, at the cross
where the train killed my hoss
and the wheels of my buggy rolled away....
Posted by: Shipman || 01/18/2005 13:27 Comments || Top||

#31  Don't know that one...
Posted by: Jules 187 || 01/18/2005 13:32 Comments || Top||

#32  Little bit of math for you that will explain why the big money players at the top of the entertainment industry are so clueless.

In the entertainment business, Time is Money.

Also in the entertainment business its well known that Knowledge is power.

So I'll look at this as an engineer...

As an Engineer, I know Power = Work / Time.

So given the conditions of the entertainmen industry I can substitute Knowledge for Power and Money for Time, giving the following equation:

Knowledge = Work / Money.

Solving that for Money we have:

Money = Work / Knowledge.

So the more knowledge you have the more work you need to do to get money in the entertainment industry.

But also - notice that no matter how much work you do, the less you know the more money you will have.

So that explains it!

In Hollywood, it doesnt matter how much you work, the less you know the more you make!

Those who make the most know the least - this is readily observable in the general population in the entertainment business, especially with Michael Moore and other leading leftie looines as prime examples.

This yields the conclusion:

To be on the top of the money list in entertainment, you dont need to know anything at all!
Posted by: OldSpook || 01/18/2005 13:49 Comments || Top||

#33  Note: I am working on a similar hypothesis for money mavens, with Soros being my initial case study...
Posted by: OldSpook || 01/18/2005 13:49 Comments || Top||

#34  Christian rock? Stryper rules!

Er...scratch that--they were pretty awful. Sorry to have intruded.
Posted by: Crusader || 01/18/2005 14:25 Comments || Top||

#35  #10 and #13...

Lex, I would completely agree with you, if I actually believed that the MSM was being cautious on this story due to their desire to get the facts before reporting it. However, they do not show such respect for the truth and deliberation in other situations when the facts are not completely known.
Posted by: mjh || 01/18/2005 14:38 Comments || Top||

#36  mjh...os...I used to agree with you both, but now I'm not so sure it's ignorance.

Think of it this way. Imagine if the news/TV/Radio almost NEVER made reference to African Americans. All actors white, news only about white people, no black sports players, no black musicians. Ahh...but they were willing to report only news/events that portrayed AA in a bad light.

That is an excellent analogy to the point I'm trying to make re: the total white-wash re: refrences about religion or God. This isn't about belief or no belief ...it's about an oddity where an aspect of our culture is completely absent from all aspects of the MSM.

Why is a perfect example? Because a similar "white-wash" existed back in the 50's for AA's. They just simply weren't there, except for an occasional bug-eyed yasssir. It wasn't like it was an actual conspiracy..but it was reflective of an intent to oppress.

The other article today - about only bad news from Iraq just makes me wonder - how long are we going to blame this "oddity" on naive ignorance??
Posted by: 2b || 01/18/2005 15:47 Comments || Top||

#37  Off topic on the original story but somewhat on topic RE: the christian music thread. I listen a lot to www.live365.com stations, especially the Southern Gospel stations, i.e. All Quartets Stereo and Gospel Twang Radio.

I agree with Lex's #13 post, let the Blogs take the lead on this story. It will only prove one more time how irrelevent the MSM has become.
Posted by: Constitutional Individualist || 01/18/2005 20:20 Comments || Top||

#38  Tipper: I doubt the killings were done by a former tenant...why kill the children?? (possible witness) Nothing was taken from the home? Why are so many invoking the 5th? Yes, the 1st amendment should prevail. As a society know one should have to live in such fear for the freedom of speech. The 7th - Freedom of Religion. Lets hope the authorities catch the right criminal.

Andrea Jackson
Posted by: Andrea || 01/18/2005 20:53 Comments || Top||

#39  Little bit of math for you that will explain why the big money players at the top of the entertainment industry are so clueless.

In the entertainment business, Time is Money.

Also in the entertainment business its well known that Knowledge is power.

So I'll look at this as an engineer...

As an Engineer, I know Power = Work / Time.

So given the conditions of the entertainmen industry I can substitute Knowledge for Power and Money for Time, giving the following equation:

Knowledge = Work / Money.

Solving that for Money we have:

Money = Work / Knowledge.

So the more knowledge you have the more work you need to do to get money in the entertainment industry.

But also - notice that no matter how much work you do, the less you know the more money you will have.

So that explains it!

In Hollywood, it doesnt matter how much you work, the less you know the more you make!

Those who make the most know the least - this is readily observable in the general population in the entertainment business, especially with Michael Moore and other leading leftie looines as prime examples.

This yields the conclusion:

To be on the top of the money list in entertainment, you dont need to know anything at all!
Posted by: OldSpook || 01/18/2005 13:49 Comments || Top||

#40  Note: I am working on a similar hypothesis for money mavens, with Soros being my initial case study...
Posted by: OldSpook || 01/18/2005 13:49 Comments || Top||

#41  Little bit of math for you that will explain why the big money players at the top of the entertainment industry are so clueless.

In the entertainment business, Time is Money.

Also in the entertainment business its well known that Knowledge is power.

So I'll look at this as an engineer...

As an Engineer, I know Power = Work / Time.

So given the conditions of the entertainmen industry I can substitute Knowledge for Power and Money for Time, giving the following equation:

Knowledge = Work / Money.

Solving that for Money we have:

Money = Work / Knowledge.

So the more knowledge you have the more work you need to do to get money in the entertainment industry.

But also - notice that no matter how much work you do, the less you know the more money you will have.

So that explains it!

In Hollywood, it doesnt matter how much you work, the less you know the more you make!

Those who make the most know the least - this is readily observable in the general population in the entertainment business, especially with Michael Moore and other leading leftie looines as prime examples.

This yields the conclusion:

To be on the top of the money list in entertainment, you dont need to know anything at all!
Posted by: OldSpook || 01/18/2005 13:49 Comments || Top||

#42  Note: I am working on a similar hypothesis for money mavens, with Soros being my initial case study...
Posted by: OldSpook || 01/18/2005 13:49 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
The demographic bomb is a dud
JERUSALEM, Israel - For the past generation, Israel has found itself engaged in post-modern warfare. Whereas Arab armies have proved themselves in five wars to be no match for the Israeli Defense Force on the battlefield, since Israeli forces withdrew from most of Lebanon twenty years ago, enemies of the Jewish state have found that the most effective means of fighting it is on the post-modern battlefield.

The most conspicuous component of the post-modern battlefield is terrorism. Terrorist foot soldiers of the post-modern army sow fear and revulsion in the heart of the target population in order to induce a sense of helplessness. In the face of photographs of the charred remains of babies being pulled from bombed-out cafes and buses, the mighty Israeli army suddenly seems small and impotent.

While terrorism is the outward face of the post-modern aggressor, social psychology is perhaps his greatest weapon. If the target population can be manipulated to view itself as the aggressor, if it can be brought to view its position as untenable, then it will sue for peace and surrender. So it was that Kadoura Fares, a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council and one of the heads of Fatah who signed far left-wing Israeli politician Yossi Beilin's capitulationist Geneva Accords in October 2003, said in an interview with the pan-Arab London-based newspaper Al-Hayat that month that the Palestinian aim in signing the accords was to "foment a piercing public and political debate in Israel."

While Hamas has placed its emphasis mainly on the terrorist aspect of the post-modern battlefield, the PLO has placed an equal emphasis on the psychological component of the war. In fact, it could be said in retrospect that the greatest single victory the PLO has scored in its 46-year-old war with Israel was the publication of a single report in 1997. That report, "Demographic Indicators of the Palestinian Territory, 1997-2015," is based on a census carried out by the PA's Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS) in 1997. It projects that the Arab population west of the Jordan River will by 2015 outnumber the Jewish population.

These numbers were immediately adopted by such prominent Israeli demographers as the University of Haifa's Arnon Soffer and the Hebrew University's Sergio Della Pergola, who have both warned that by 2020 Jews will make up between 40 and 46 percent of the overall population of Israel and the territories. The Palestinian projections, which place the Arab population of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip at 3.83 million and the Israeli Arab population at 1.33 million for a total of 5.16 million Arabs west of the Jordan River, put Israel with its 5.24 million Jews at the precipice of demographic parity with the Arabs.

Largely in reaction to these statistics, which were bandied about by everyone from politicians to diplomats to defense officials, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon decided a year ago to adopt the left wing Labor Party's campaign platform and withdraw the IDF from Gaza and the northern West Bank and forcibly remove the Jews living in those areas from their homes. In his interview with Israel's largest circulation daily Yediot Aharonot in December 2003, which was the curtain raiser for Sharon's announcement of his policy shift later that month, Vice Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said: "Above all hovers the cloud of demographics. It will come down on us not in the end of days, but in just another few years. We are approaching a point where more and more Palestinians will say: 'There is no place for two states between the Jordan and the sea. All we want is the right to vote.' The day they get it we will lose everything."

BUT WHAT if the numbers are wrong? What if the doomsday scenarios Israelis hear on a daily basis, arguing that Israel is about to be overrun by the Arab womb, are all based on fraudulent data — part of an ingenious Palestinian plan to psychologically manipulate Israel into capitulating?

This week a team of American and Israeli researchers presented a study of the Palestinian population statistics at the American Enterprise Institute and the Heritage Foundation in Washington. The team, led by American businessman Bennett Zimmerman and Israeli strategic consultant Yoram Ettinger, compared the PCBS data to birth and death records published annually by the PA's Health Ministry; to immigration and emigration data from Israel's Border Police at the international crossing points into the Palestinian Authority and at Ben-Gurion Airport, and to internal migration records of Palestinians from the territories into Israel recorded by the Israeli Interior Ministry.

The researchers also compared Palestinian population data from the PCBS to voting records compiled by the Palestinian Central Elections Commission before the 1996 Palestinian elections and this week's Palestinian elections, as well as to the Israeli Civil Administration's population survey of Palestinians carried out in the 1990s before the transfer of authority over Palestinian population records to the PA.

The PCBS forecast was further compared to Palestinian population surveys carried out by UNRWA and the Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics (ICBS) in the mid-1990s, and to World Bank Palestinian population studies. All of the team's comparative analyses led to the conclusion that the Palestinian population forecasts upon which Israel is basing its current policy of withdrawal and uprooting of Israeli communities in the territories are faulty in the extreme.

The PCBS count includes the 230,000 Arab residents of Jerusalem. Yet these Arabs are already counted by the ICBS as part of Israel's population, which means that they are counted twice.

The PCBS numbers also project Palestinian natural growth as 4 to 5 percent per year - among the highest in the world and significantly higher than the natural population growth of Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria. Yet Palestinian Ministry of Health records published annually since 1996 show that Palestinian natural growth rates in the West Bank and Gaza average around 3 percent. In 2002, the Palestinian Ministry of Health retroactively raised its numbers but even the doctored figures never extended beyond 3.7 percent. The original data show a steady pattern of decrease in natural growth leading to a natural growth rate in 2003 of just 2.6 percent.

Indeed, the total fertility rate of Palestinian women has been trending downward in recent years. Palestinian women in the West Bank averaged 4.1 children in 1999 and 3.4 in 2003. Palestinian women in Gaza averaged 5 children each in 1999 and 4.7 in 2003. The multi-year average of Israel's compound growth rate from 1990-2004 is 2.5 percent. And even as Israel's growth rate went down to 1.7 percent between 2000 and 2004, a similar decline occurred among Palestinians in Gaza, where growth decreased from 3.9 percent to 3.0 percent, and Palestinians in the West Bank, where growth declined from 2.7 percent to 1.8 percent.

The PCBS also projected a net population increase of 1.5 percent per year as a result of immigration from abroad. But the study's authors found that except for 1994, when the bulk of the Palestinian leadership and their families entered the areas from abroad, emigration from the Palestinian areas has outstripped immigration every year.

Aside from this, the PCBS numbers include some 200,000 Palestinians who live abroad. This fact was corroborated by an October 14 press release by the Palestinian Central Elections Commission which stated that "200,000 eligible voters are living abroad." The number of Palestinians living abroad constitutes 13 percent of the Palestinians counted in 1997 and forms the basis of the projections of that population's growth in spite of the fact that they don't live in the territories.

The report also shows that while the Israeli Interior Ministry announced in November 2003 that in the preceding decade some 150,000 residents of the Palestinian Authority had legally moved to Israel (including Jerusalem), these 150,000 residents remain on the Palestinian population rolls. Parenthetically, this internal migration is largely responsible for the anomalous 3.1 percent annual growth in the Israeli Arab population. Absent this internal migration, the Israeli Arab natural growth rate is 2.1% — that is, below the Israeli Jewish growth rate.

The study presents three separate scenarios for calculating the actual Palestinian population in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Its authors prove that the first scenario, based on the PCBS numbers, minus the double counted Jerusalem Arabs and minus the internal migrations, is not statistically plausible. Yet even this scenario places the Palestinian population at 3.06 million, or 770,000 less than the number that currently informs Israeli decision makers.

The average of the last two scenarios, which corrected for the Palestinians living abroad and were based on base populations comprised of ICBS Palestinian population survey projections from the 1990s and Palestinian voting records in 1996 and 2004, brought the final projected number of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank to 2.42 million — nearly a third less than the 3.83 million figure currently being used.

The study, which has been accepted by prominent American demographers Dr. Nicholas Eberstadt and Murray Feshbach, shows that contrary to common wisdom, the Jewish majority west of the Jordan River has remained stable since 1967. In 1967 Jews made up 64.1 percent of the overall population and in 2004 they made up 59.5 percent. Inside Israel proper, including Jerusalem, Jews make up 80 percent of the population.

While reading the report, the inescapable sense is that something has gone very wrong within Israeli society. The numbers are so clear. The data have always been readily available. And yet, like bats attracted to the darkness of a cave, Israelis preferred the manipulative lies of the PA to the truth.

The entire 117-page report can be accessed on-line at www.pademographics.com. Given that it shows that the Israeli government's current policies are based in large part on an uncritical acceptance of fraudulent data whose purpose was to demoralize Israeli society into capitulating to its post-modern foe, hopefully Olmert and Sharon will take a look at it.

Caroline B. Glick is the senior Middle East Fellow at the Center for Security Policy in Washington, DC and the deputy managing editor of The Jerusalem Post where this column first appeared.
Posted by: Anonymous5089 || 01/18/2005 12:03:35 PM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Even if this critique is correct, the Jewish proportion west of the Jordan is too low to keep all the territories, and its declining. Disengagement remains the correct policy, if SLIGHTLY less urgent.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 01/18/2005 13:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Thanks, A5089! This is very good to know. But I agree with LH, separation and building the Security Fence to contain the violent are still the right moves.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/18/2005 13:21 Comments || Top||

#3  Liberalhawk
Quality has quantity of its own.
Posted by: gromgorru || 01/18/2005 17:18 Comments || Top||

#4  INTERESTING!

I never thought about it this way ... Ms. Glick has given us a lot to think about.
Posted by: Edward Yee || 01/18/2005 23:16 Comments || Top||



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