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Lebanon Hizbullah: "It's war!"
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-Short Attention Span Theater-
CNN: 'Trump Voter Shoots Mentally Ill Man In Church'
[Babylon Bee] ATLANTA, GA‐Churchgoer Jack Wilson shot and killed a mass shooter at West Freeway Church of Christ, preventing what could have been a much worse shooting.

But CNN reported on the event with the headline and caption "Trump voter shot a mentally ill man in a Texas church," causing some to question whether CNN might be a biased source of news.

"Once again we see that Trump voters are hopelessly wicked," said one somber anchor as footage came in of a shooting in a Texas church. "There is nothing they won't do to attack the oppressed, mentally ill community. All this man wanted to do was express his true identity and live out who he really is, and he was stopped by yet another psychotic Trump voter."

CNN hosts called for Texas to designate their churches "gun-free zones," so that the mentally ill can do whatever they please without being stopped by deranged conservatives.

Posted by: Besoeker || 01/03/2020 07:55 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Actually correctly called 'Bee' on this one.

3 out of 10 this week isn't too bad I guess.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 01/03/2020 9:00 Comments || Top||

#2  I thought the Bee on this one. However, it would be easy to believe that CNN reported this.
Posted by: JohnQC || 01/03/2020 10:35 Comments || Top||

#3  Does anyone remember the days before the Bee. When comedy was dead. I hope they are raking in Ad dollars or whatever they do to get money.
Posted by: ruprecht || 01/03/2020 10:41 Comments || Top||

#4  It is so close to true I was believing it. But alas the Bee stung me again.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 01/03/2020 11:43 Comments || Top||

#5  Got me, too. I have noticed a trend to include the perpetrator as part of the total victim count of KIA's ... as if the killer's weapon was the sole cause of the slaughter and all the killed were innocent bystanders.
Posted by: magpie || 01/03/2020 12:00 Comments || Top||

#6  Agh. Bee.

*karate chops countertop*
Posted by: swksvolFF || 01/03/2020 12:05 Comments || Top||

#7  Stung here.
Posted by: Lex || 01/03/2020 12:50 Comments || Top||

#8  As Glenn Reynolds often says: The Bee is modern US newspaper of record.
Posted by: anymouse || 01/03/2020 22:42 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Democrats Call For Flags To Be Flown At Half-Mast To Grieve Death Of Soleiman
Is it live or is it Memorex?
[BabylonBee] WASHINGTON, D.C.‐At a press conference held on Capitol Hill Friday, mourning Democrat leaders called for flags to be flown half-mast to honor the death of Qasem Soleimani.

Flags were spotted flying at half-mast around the country, notably at The Washington Post, The New York Times, and in front of several celebrities' homes. The celebrities went out and bought an American flag for the first time just to fly it at half-mast for this important time of grief.

"The grieving process is painful but necessary," said Rep. Ilhan Omar. "As a nation, we need to stop and grieve this great, austere, revered religious scholar. He was one of the good ones."
Posted by: Raj || 01/03/2020 17:33 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bee. Right?
Posted by: Bobby || 01/03/2020 17:50 Comments || Top||

#2  Too easy. "Austere" PLUS "revered" was the giveaway. Over the top.
Posted by: Lex || 01/03/2020 17:57 Comments || Top||

#3  Bee is walloping my ass today.

*searches couch for change to pay the jar*
Posted by: swksvolFF || 01/03/2020 18:19 Comments || Top||

#4  didn't see this and posted for tomorrow...
Posted by: Frank G || 01/03/2020 19:42 Comments || Top||

#5  That happens a lot, Frank — when we get beat to the punch, it shows we were on the right track. :-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/03/2020 20:20 Comments || Top||


Who Creates Money?
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 01/03/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The government didn't make that money.
Posted by: gorb || 01/03/2020 0:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Who creates 'value'? Money is simply a medium of transaction.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 01/03/2020 1:09 Comments || Top||

#3  I don't know, but I would like some. Please!
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 01/03/2020 4:14 Comments || Top||

#4  That the state accepts tax in their own currency at a certain extent creates a value chain that makes money useful.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 01/03/2020 6:24 Comments || Top||

#5  The state of Mexicalifornia issued 'due out refunds' to tax filers one year recently. Said they couldn't be used to pay in part the next year's taxes.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 01/03/2020 6:46 Comments || Top||

#6  Yes, and like tax policy, monetary policy is politically distorted until the unintended consequences far outweigh the legitimate goals. Leftists call this "capitalism'" and blame it for all society's ills.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 01/03/2020 7:47 Comments || Top||

#7  if you refinance your house and get a 'cash out' at settlement, you and the financing institutions have created money

that's just one example of how difficult it is to understand and quantify what is happening in the economy
Posted by: lord garth || 01/03/2020 8:10 Comments || Top||

#8  Piper warned us all already They Live a saint he should be on stained glass windows!
Posted by: Javimp Elmavising1472 || 01/03/2020 9:49 Comments || Top||

#9  Piper warned us all already They Live a saint he should be on stained glass windows!

"I came here to kick ass and chew gum. And I'm all outta gum."
Posted by: Raj || 01/03/2020 9:58 Comments || Top||

#10  Value Vs. Money anecdote: A Vietnam Vet (AF Base Security) told me that he had discovered that South Vietnamese paper money made decent toilet paper (crumple it, wet and then let dry in the sun). The Mama-san at the local whorehouse was very appreciative if you showed up with soap and other toiletries bought at the Base PX -- that is VALUE and the local currency was just MONEY.
Posted by: magpie || 01/03/2020 11:02 Comments || Top||

#11  another anecdote

American in backward poverty stricken country asks store owner what he can get for $5

Store owner says, well you can get a whole chicken or a new wife or a bottle of whiskey.

American says, well it can't be very good whiskey
Posted by: lord garth || 01/03/2020 11:59 Comments || Top||


Iraq
US embassy attack was Iran’s way of showing they run Iraq
[ENGLISH.ALARABIYA.NET] Many Iraqis call Abu Mahdi al-Mohandes "the de-facto Prime Minister of Iraq" even though he is a designated terrorist who commands Kataib Hezbollah, an Iranian-backed militia whose bases were bombed by US warplanes in Iraq and Syria this week.

Two days after that bombing, on New Year’s Eve, al-Mohandes walked into the heavily protected Green Zone in central Baghdad unopposed with a mob of Iran’s proxy militia fighters and set fire to the US Embassy.

The Iraqi government did nothing to stop him.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Fred || 01/03/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran Proxies

#1  DONE.
Posted by: Uleck Spererong9442 || 01/03/2020 7:04 Comments || Top||

#2 
More importantly, it is time to go after Soleimani and al-Mohandes ‐ they are enemies of the Iraqi people, the region and the United States.


Takeaway: So Trump reads Alarabiya?
Posted by: Mercutio || 01/03/2020 8:24 Comments || Top||

#3  Democratic Takeaway: Trump isn't a Russian stooge, he's an Arab stooge.
Posted by: Mercutio || 01/03/2020 8:26 Comments || Top||

#4  punish Iran directly by hitting its Revolutionary Guard Corps and Quds Force directly.

To quote #1, DONE.
Posted by: AlanC || 01/03/2020 9:15 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Spengler: Trump takes a calculated risk
[Asia Times] - US President Donald Trump’s decision to humiliate Iran with the assassination of a national hero on Jan. 2 is a calculated gamble and probably represents the best of a set of bad alternatives.

Trump inherited a weak hand after the George W. Bush Administration destroyed the century-old balance of power between Sunni and Shia in Western Asia, by replacing Saddam Hussein’s Sunni minority regime with a sectarian Shia government allied to Iran. Bush’s belief in majority rule and nation-building, lauded by his neoconservative advisers, handed Iran an opportunity to dominate the region. Trump pushed back with economic sanctions, which have not dissuaded Iran from extending its reach.

Iran provoked the United States by attacking its embassy in Baghdad after the US launched airstrikes against Iranian-backed militias in Iraq. Iran’s attack on the embassy sought to humble the United States. Trump decided to escalate rather than matching Iran tit-for-tat. Both actions involved high-risk gambles, and require an explanation. Iran crossed a red line by backing a militia attack on the US embassy and Trump crossed a red line by killing General Qasem Soleimani. Nations don’t take actions of this sort capriciously.

...Persia as such is a declining power. Its strategic position, as I have argued in the past, resembles France on the eve of the First World War. Today Iran has five workers of prime-age (25-64 years) for every citizen over 65. By 2050 the ratio will crash to just 1.8 working-age Iranians per retiree, assuming constant fertility. Iran’s economy will crash. Its pension systems already are bankrupt. Iran’s only hope of maintaining regional hegemony is to expand the Shia presence in Mesopotamia and the Levant, through militias like Lebanon’s Hezbollah and the 80,000-strong mercenary militias it supports in Syria, staffed mainly by Afghan and Pakistani Shia.

...Without attempting to read the minds of Iran’s leaders, one may conjecture that Iran badly needed a moral victory to show that it was not cowed by massive Israeli airstrikes in Syria, nor, indeed, by a deteriorating economy at home. In November, the Iranian regime ruthlessly suppressed anti-regime protests, killing up to 1,000 demonstrators. After the US struck five bases of Iran-backed militias in Iraq on Dec. 30, Iran decided that its credibility required a demonstration of power, and ordered the attack on the US embassy.

...That left Trump with few good choices. After 5,000 dead, 50,000 wounded and trillions of dollars in expenditures in Iraq, the US had succeeded in turning a former counterweight to Iranian ambitions into an Iranian satrapy. The embassy attack was intended by Iran as a public act of ritual humiliation, and the United States had no choice but to respond. Trump chose to respond by subjecting Iran to an even more poignant form of humiliation, by assassinating a national hero, Gen. Qassam Sulemaini. It is easy to criticize the US president, but harder to recommend an alternative course of action. US airpower has limited effectiveness in constraining the diffuse Iranian-backed militias.

...Neither Iran nor the US has good choices here. Iran must respond or its credibility will collapse. The question is how. An Iranian attack on an American ally like Israel or Saudi Arabia would not suffice, now that Washington has acted in its own name against a key Iranian leader. The indicated course of action is to attack an American asset. In the extreme case, Iran could use a combination of intermediate-range missiles, cruise missiles and drones to attack the Doha base.

...If Iran were to attack Doha, America’s response likely would be devastating. Two dozen missiles or bombing sorties could wipe out Iran’s economy in a matter of hours. Fewer than a dozen power plants generate 60% of Iran’s electricity, and eight refineries produce 80% of its distillates. A single missile strike could disable each of these facilities, and bunker-buster bombs of the kind that Israel used last month in Lebanon would entirely destroy them. Without much effort, the US could destroy the Port of Kharg from which Iran exports 90% of its hydrocarbons.

...It seems clear that Iran was taken aback by the ferocity of America’s response to the embassy attack. If it anticipated this sort of attack, Gen. Sulemaini never would have appeared in person at the Baghdad Airport. Iran now has to devise a response whose outcome is extremely difficult to calculate. There is a significant probability of a major escalation.

Iran well may decide on a limited, symbolic action that fails to restore its credibility after the Sulemaini assassination. If it chooses restraint, its power in the region will diminish, and Trump’s gamble will pay off.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 01/03/2020 13:00 || Comments || Link || [14 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  So Trump had to unravel the Boosh x Soetoro mistakes or take the blame for letting the situation fester. He chose to take the blame for what he did rather than for what he didn't do. I like that.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 01/03/2020 13:23 Comments || Top||

#2  ...It seems clear that Iran was taken aback by the ferocity of America’s response to the embassy attack.

As P2K commented in another thread, this is a very Jacksonian response. This is the second time Iran has attacked a US embassy.

I have not read Trump's The Art of the Deal yet, but I'm told there is a section were Trump says that if someone *bleep*s you in a deal, you need to *bleep* them back. I wonder if the book is published in Persian.
Posted by: SteveS || 01/03/2020 13:34 Comments || Top||

#3  So far nobody is talking about the Iranians attacking one of the many warshipsin the gulf. I would think that is a pretty high probabilty in the Iranians' thought processes. Of course after that the entire country (returns) to dust and sand.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 01/03/2020 14:14 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm pretty sure every US agent/serviceman/operation is on high alert for some time in the future
Posted by: Frank G || 01/03/2020 14:33 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm sure they have a plan or two for a Beruit Marine Barracks attack, and with all their proxies, they may opt for a number of simultaneous attacks to stretch our ability to respond.
Posted by: Mercutio || 01/03/2020 14:52 Comments || Top||

#6  They are still trying to figure out whether our Intel was that good or someone inside dropped a dime.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 01/03/2020 15:30 Comments || Top||

#7  #2 Steve S - the DJT quote I'm familiar with (from the 1989s) was, I play fair. But screw me, and I screw back - in spades.
Posted by: Lex || 01/03/2020 15:57 Comments || Top||

#8  *1980s
Posted by: Lex || 01/03/2020 15:58 Comments || Top||

#9  Escalations as they may be, there haven't been any civilian casualties yet so if Iran's next move is to kill innocent victims It's a whole new ball game.

Posted by: Bob Glomock4627 || 01/03/2020 15:59 Comments || Top||

#10  The guy is not a hero to the common Iranian.
Posted by: gorb || 01/03/2020 18:49 Comments || Top||

#11  to stretch our ability to respond.
Unless all paths lead to the same overwhelming response.
Posted by: Glenmore || 01/03/2020 19:00 Comments || Top||


Soleimani always got away, until this time he met his end (obit-analysis)
[JPost's take] Hajj Qasem, the "shadow commander," Israel's "most dangerous enemy," has been killed in Iraq alongside his key disciple Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis. An airstrike near or at Baghdad International Airport targeted a motorcade with the men in it just days after their followers stormed the US Embassy compound and scrawled "Soleimani is our leader" on its walls. US President Donald Trump approved the airstrike. The Pentagon confirmed the US killed the Iranian Quds Force leader. The US said Iran was responsible for killing 608 US troops during the Iraq war.

The unthinkable has happened. The man behind Iran's drive for regional hegemony, who commanded the Quds Force of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, has been targeted. Unlike all the previous times when he got away, this time, he has met his end.

Reports emerged after four in the morning, Iraqi time. A mysterious airstrike near the airport had led to rumors of its closure hours earlier. Two flights were inbound at the time. A Pegasus and Iraq airways flight. Three or four rockets impacted near the airport. US helicopters were reported buzzing in the distance.

It appears a cryptic tweet from US Defense Secretary Mark Esper announced the US policy to begin pre-emptive strikes against Iranian adversaries or their proxies. "To Iran and its proxy militias: We will not accept the continued attacks against our personnel and forces in the region. Attacks against us will be met with responses in the time, manner and place of our choosing. We urge the Iranian regime to end malign activities."

It is not known if the US acted alone or who else may be responsible for the airstrike. US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had called Middle East leaders in the last days to firm up support and discuss strategy. He called Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, UAE Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan and Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman in Saudi Arabia. He also phoned Iraqi leaders and Qatar. He warned Muhandis as well as Qais Khazali, a Shi'ite militia leader the US had sanctioned. He then warned the leaders of the Iranian-backed Popular Mobilization Units, Hadi al-Amiri and Faleh al-Fayed.

Muhandis was responsible for the attack on US forces at K-1 on December 27 that resulted in a US contractor death. He has been responsible for attacks on Americans since the 1980s. Qais Khazali has also been responsible for attacks, and was held at Camp Cropper in 2007. But it is Muhandis who was always the head of the powerful Iranian support for a network of militias in the region that helped guide this policy. Muhandis was key to supporting Hezbollah and worked closely with Imad Mughniyeh of Hezbollah in the past. Mughniyeh was killed in 2008.

It is difficult to estimate Iran's response but the regime will want to respond not only to this attack but also the initial US attack on December 29 that killed two dozen members of Kataib Hezbollah. That series of five airstrikes in Iraq and Syria is now overshadowed but it was important because it showed the US would act against Iran's attacks. Since May of 2019, Iran has been attacking not only the US but also Israel, Saudi Arabia and oil tankers in the region. It downed a US drone and sent proxies inn Iraq to fire rockets at least 12 times at US bases. These rocket attacks targeted key facilities including the Green Zone, Camp Taji, Assad and Balad base and Qayarrah. Iran also fired rockets at Israel in January, September and November of 2019. It attacked Iran's Abqaiq facility in September with a drone swarm. It also sent Kataib Hezbollah to attack Saudi Arabia in May and to establish bases and arms trafficking networks across Iraq. In Syria Iran built a new base called Imam Ali at the Syrian border with Iraq.
Posted by: Frank G || 01/03/2020 04:23 || Comments || Link || [14 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  The En-Laws, 1979.

[On working for the CIA]

Peter Falk as Vince Ricardo : Are you interested in joining? The benefits are terrific. The trick is not to get killed. That's really the key to the benefit program.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/03/2020 7:12 Comments || Top||

#2  I suspect id info have provided by another interested agent. Maybe even, directly to Secretary Esper's people rather than through the other agency.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 01/03/2020 9:52 Comments || Top||

#3  He had a good run -- in the BOM* era

*Before OrangeMan
Posted by: Lex || 01/03/2020 23:05 Comments || Top||


Would Israel still need US bunker busters for attacking Iranian nukes?
[JPost] - Tensions are going into overdrive between Israel, Iran and the US, and Tehran has been creeping closer to a nuclear weapon since it started violating the 2015 nuclear deal in May 2019.
Not in 2015?
If "judgment day" comes in late 2020, and Israel believes it must preemptively strike the Islamic republic’s nuclear facilities to prevent Ayatollah Ali Khamenei from having nuclear weapons, will it be able to effectively do so alone?

Or would Israel need either direct US involvement or at least a transfer of key US weaponry that Israel still does not possess?

As of late 2016, and likely at least until Israel’s F-35 aircraft became operational in December 2017, Israel did not have a full answer to striking Iran’s nuclear facilities.

A survey of top Israeli officials and some US officials by The Jerusalem Post about how far Israel’s capabilities have advanced by 2020 did not give a definite answer ‐ though at the very least there are question marks about what Israel can do going it alone.

As of late 2016, former prime minister Ehud Barak was still criticizing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for failing to get "bunker buster" bombs from the US, which would enable an Israeli solo attack on Iran’s key underground nuclear facility of Fordow.
Think outside the box, for the Name's sake!

Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 01/03/2020 03:14 || Comments || Link || [13 views] Top|| File under:

#1  yes
Posted by: lord garth || 01/03/2020 11:48 Comments || Top||



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Fri 2020-01-03
  Lebanon Hizbullah: "It's war!"
Thu 2020-01-02
  Qassim Soleimani, head of Iran's elite Quds force, zapped in Iraq
Wed 2020-01-01
  Hashid Al Shaabi #PMF leader Abo Alaa Al Walae threatens to attack Embassies of #Saudi, #UAE, #Bahrain and others in #Baghdad.
Tue 2019-12-31
  Crowd storms US Embassy compound in Baghdad
Mon 2019-12-30
  Qais al-Khazali was a close associate of Qassem Suleimani - killed by USAF.
Sun 2019-12-29
  Iraq launches new military operation against ISIS 4 provinces
Sat 2019-12-28
  US civilian contractor killed and several US and Iraqi personnel wounded in Kirkuk rocket attack
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  Jihadists suffer heavy losses in failed attempt to retake strategic southeast Idlib town
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