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Roger Stone found guilty by D.C. jury.
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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Santa Clarita school shooter was initially mistaken as a victim: cops
[NYPOST] The teen shooter who opened fire on his high school campus in Caliphornia, an impregnable bastion of the Democratic Party, Thursday, wounding several and killing two, initially was mistaken as a victim by first responders after he was found with a gunshot wound to his head, police said.

First responders found the 16-year-old shooter along with five other shot students on the quad of Saugus High School in Santa Clarita around 7:40 a.m.

The students were hospitalized and Sherlocks later identified the shooter through firsthand witnesses, Los Angeles County officials said at a presser.

"The suspect was later identified as one of the victims found in the quad," Capt. Kent Wegener with the sheriff’s homicide division said during a midday presser.

Surveillance video from the school showed the shooter pull a .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol from his backpack and shoot five students before he shot himself in the head, Wegener said.

He is in "grave condition," which means he is critical and clinging to life, officials said.
Posted by: Fred || 11/15/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Shot himself in the head and still flung the gun far enough away to be mistaken for a victim? Of course it could happen, but the likelihood seems low.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 11/15/2019 8:58 Comments || Top||

#2  Interestingly no publicity for the perp.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 11/15/2019 9:35 Comments || Top||

#3  American of asian mix.
Posted by: Frank G || 11/15/2019 9:59 Comments || Top||

#4  The obvious (to Democrats) solution to tragedies like this is to work harder to take away guns from legal gun owners.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 11/15/2019 11:55 Comments || Top||

#5  Shot himself in the head and still flung the gun far enough away to be mistaken for a victim?

..or someone kicked it away before the authorities could be on site.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/15/2019 12:40 Comments || Top||

#6  Another fine product of our wonderful public school system, where indoctrination is more important than education and job training is non-existent. Why make these kids sit in what resembles a prison more than anything until they are 17 or 18 years old when they still won't be qualified for any kind of job that some illegal alien hasn't already taken? No wonder they get pissed off and alienated.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 11/15/2019 14:33 Comments || Top||

#7  Funny how these things only happen in public schools. Am I wrong?
Posted by: Lex || 11/15/2019 14:35 Comments || Top||

#8  Funny how these things only happen in public schools

Well, in the case of home-schoolers, its called domestic violence and doesn't raise the same flags....
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 11/15/2019 15:03 Comments || Top||

#9  I mean, you never ever hear about a shooter in a private or Christian school.
Posted by: Lex || 11/15/2019 15:08 Comments || Top||

#10  In fairness, public schools have to take everybody while private and parochial or Christian schools can expel anyone who doesn't measure up to their standards. That's not really what I'm bitching about. My problem is that we keep kids down and treat them like children for far too long and when they finally get out of high school they haven't been prepared for the real world. The program should be a lot shorter but a lot more rigorous. Let the kids grow up instead of treating them like children. Face the fact that not all high school kids are going to college and teach them how to do other jobs. Either that or else subsidize them when they go to private vocational schools instead of keeping them in high school where they learn nothing that will ever be useful to them.

But in California, the biggest problem is the teachers' unions. They would very effectively resist any change that required their lazy, ignorant members to update the curriculum and make it relevant to reality.

And we need to face facts when a student can't hack it. Do not let them stay in that environment and become disruptive because it isn't fair to the others who are putting forth the effort. I don't know what you do with the dropouts but you can't keep trying to mainstream them when it's obviously not working.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 11/15/2019 17:14 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
National Felon League season off to good start
CLEVELAND (AP) ‐ The Browns were seconds away from a season-changing win when Myles Garrett lost his composure in a moment of rage rarely seen on an NFL field.
I'm sure our pink salmon Moderator was really proud...until this crap happened. Browns outplayed them
Garrett tore off Pittsburgh quarterback Mason Rudolph’s helmet, wildly swung it and hit the QB in the head, a shocking act that will likely result in a lengthy suspension for Cleveland’s star defensive end and perhaps cost the Browns any chance of making the playoffs.

Garrett’s outburst came with 8 seconds left in Cleveland’s 21-7 win over the rival Steelers on Thursday night, a game that will not be remembered for anything that happened in the first 59 minutes.

Garrett faces a stiff NFL suspension and Steelers center Maurkice Pouncey will likely be disciplined for kicking Garrett in the head.
One can be certain some gentlemanly on-field discussions proceeded this most unfortunate scuffle.
As is so often the case, we are not privy to the discourse.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/15/2019 05:53 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Stunned"... I tell you "STUNNED."

NFL world stunned by Myles Garrett attack on Mason Rudolph: Calls for season-long ban, jail
Yahoo Sports Jason Owens, Yahoo Sports 5 hours ago
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/15/2019 6:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Maurkice Pouncey protecting his QB from a nut job?
Posted by: 3dc || 11/15/2019 6:07 Comments || Top||

#3  Rudolph's no saint here, he was grabbing and pushing Garrett's facemask while on the ground, too... and Pouncey's a thug
Posted by: Frank G || 11/15/2019 6:14 Comments || Top||

#4  I haven't watched the No Firearms League for years. When they stop worrying about my constitutional rights and clean up their own act, I still won't watch.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 11/15/2019 8:17 Comments || Top||

#5  Frank, agree there a two sides to a story, but grabbing off a qbs helmet and going all Popeyes Chicken on his unprotected head?

This isn’t ‘Nam, Smokey. There are rules.
Posted by: Regular joe || 11/15/2019 9:24 Comments || Top||

#6  I agree. "Smokey, you're over the line. Mark it"
Posted by: Frank G || 11/15/2019 10:05 Comments || Top||

#7  I'm reaching the point where I'll only watch pro football if the losing team leaves the field in body bags. They are worthless scum and criminals. We should treat them like it. No tax subsidies for these freaks. In fact, they should PAY IT ALL BACK.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 11/15/2019 11:00 Comments || Top||

#8  Going all Popeye's Chicken? That's a good one.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 11/15/2019 13:03 Comments || Top||

#9  wildly swung

Poor writing. The helmet was removed and swung with strong purpose.

will not be remembered for anything that happened in the first 59 minutes.

The whole game was chippy. That a fight broke out is unsurprising. One of the morning bobbleheads implied Garret lost it because the quarterback called him That Name, or Made a Yo Momma joke, so racism and Rudolph deserved it; which is one of the most passive-racist things I've heard on TV - and from that skinny scrawling voice of a white dude.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 11/15/2019 15:35 Comments || Top||

#10  That Name, or Made a Yo Momma joke, so racism and Rudolph deserved it; which is one of the most passive-racist things I've heard on TV - and from that skinny scrawling voice of a white dude.

Must of been secondhand information from a whistle blower.
Posted by: bbrewer126 || 11/15/2019 20:32 Comments || Top||


Hogs Destroy Italian Coke
Gives snorting a whole new meaning
Posted by: Mercutio || 11/15/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Eat the coke, save the truffles.
Posted by: AlanC || 11/15/2019 7:48 Comments || Top||

#2 
Posted by: Angens Turkeyneck2026 || 11/15/2019 8:38 Comments || Top||

#3  Mmm, roast wild boar.
Posted by: Lex || 11/15/2019 11:15 Comments || Top||

#4 
One accidental whiff led to another, and now Porcino has decided he wants to be in Hollywood. He swears he can do everything Ron Perlman can, only better.


Posted by: Dron66046 || 11/15/2019 15:30 Comments || Top||

#5  Livin' high on the hog.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 11/15/2019 15:49 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
China's largest garbage dump at capacity -- 25 years early
Posted by: Skidmark || 11/15/2019 11:42 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  that's their problem
Posted by: chris || 11/15/2019 16:14 Comments || Top||


Tree Lighting Removed From Annual Holiday Celebration In Durham, NH After Complaints
[BOSTON.CBSLOCAL] A Durham, New Hampshire celebration scheduled for the beginning of holidays is undergoing some changes this year in an effort to remove religious overtones.
It's Grinch rutting season already!
Formerly called the Annual Tree Lighting Ceremony,
Because they fired up a tree every year...
the newly named Frost Fest
"Festivus for the Rest of Us"...
will include the absence of a formal tree lighting. Santa will be at the event but he will not arrive in a town firetruck as he has in the past.
He's coming by taxi.
The wreaths that traditionally adorned lamp posts on Main Street will also not be present this year.
Can they hang kale?
Town Councilor Sally Tobias says the changes came about after some controversy last holiday season. “There was another private citizen that came forward and said that he had always had a problem with the Christmas tree, as he called it,” Tobias said.
"I hate Christmas! Take it down! Take it all down! That pagan Germanic decorated tree, too!"
After holding a public meeting, the town formed a working committee and made changes to the event.
"Well? Do you have a spine, Bob?"
"No, Chet. I've always been an invertebrate."
"Me, too. How about you, Sylvia?"
"Nope. None."
"Then it's unanimous? All in favor say 'aye'!"
"Ummm... I'm not sure I'd go that far..."
"Let's form a committee, then."
"As long as I'm not on it!"
"Me, too!"

“There were a couple of people that did express some concerns about how they felt being included,” Tobias said.
Do tell?
Posted by: Fred || 11/15/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Head over to Gatlinburg, TN. They do Christmas decorations right.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 11/15/2019 7:05 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan
Afghan Capital’s Air Pollution May Be Even Deadlier Than War
A reminder why we mustn’t let California, et al take control of America.
[ToloNews] Afghanistan’s pollution may be even deadlier than its war, now 18 years long.

Yousuf fled with his family from his home in eastern Afghanistan eight years ago to escape the war, but he couldn’t escape tragedy. In the capital, Kabul, five of his children died, not from violence or bombings, but from air pollution, worsened by bitter cold and poverty.

At the camp for displaced people they live in, they and other families keep warm and cook by burning the garbage that surrounds them. One by one over the years, each of the children got chest infections and other maladies from the pollution and never made it to age seven, he told The News Agency that Dare Not be Named. The 60-year-old has nine surviving children.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/15/2019 00:10 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hey Greta!
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/15/2019 7:37 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
China covering lack of incoming capital by divesting offshore holdings.
[Twitter]
Posted by: 3dc || 11/15/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  The Don rules!
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/15/2019 1:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Smashing Hong Kong's really gonna help that bottom line

*snort*
Posted by: Frank G || 11/15/2019 6:05 Comments || Top||


U.S. Mfg Group Hacked By China As Trade Talks Intensified
[Reuters] As trade talks between Washington and Beijing intensified earlier this year, suspected Chinese hackers broke into an industry group for U.S. manufacturers that has helped shape President Donald Trump’s trade policies, according to two people familiar with the matter.

The National Association of Manufacturers (NAM) was hacked over the summer and hired a cybersecurity firm, which concluded the attack came from China, the two sources said.

The security firm, which the sources did not name, made the assessment based on the usage of tools and techniques previously associated with known Chinese hacking groups, they said.

The hack of an internal computer network at a powerful Washington industry group illustrates how China has tried to gain an advantage in the trade war between the world’s two biggest economies.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike || 11/15/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  Mods, thank you for fixing this and getting it posted. I thought it was important enough to post but my computer sneers at me sometimes. Okay, most of the time. And Commies is a better classification than Cyber.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike || 11/15/2019 10:17 Comments || Top||

#2  :-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/15/2019 13:16 Comments || Top||


Cyber
Power jacking cyber attack vector
[ZDnet] Travelers are advised to avoid using public USB power charging stations in airports, hotels, and other locations because they may contain dangerous malware, the Los Angeles District Attorney said in a security alert published last week.

USB connections were designed to work as both data and power transfer mediums, with no strict barrier between the two. As smartphones became more popular in the past decade, security researchers figured out they could abuse USB connections that a user might think was only transferring electrical power to hide and deliver secret data payloads.

This type of attack received its own name, as "juice jacking."
Posted by: M. Murcek || 11/15/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  One solution for travelers who need to practice safe charging.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 11/15/2019 8:40 Comments || Top||

#2  That looks like a nice idea for Christmas stocking stuffers, M. Murcek. Noted with the article link for future reference.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/15/2019 13:24 Comments || Top||

#3  Same here, thx!
Posted by: Frank G || 11/15/2019 13:53 Comments || Top||

#4  A nice thing to have if you are prone to sticking your plug in strange sockets!
Posted by: SteveS || 11/15/2019 18:32 Comments || Top||

#5  I tried using a condom on my USB, but it wouldn't fit
Posted by: Frank G || 11/15/2019 18:57 Comments || Top||

#6  So just switch off your phone when using a public charging terminal. I use an 'ye olde Nokia' phone, so it doesn't concern me much.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 11/15/2019 19:50 Comments || Top||


Economy
White House unveils rules requiring online disclosure of hospital prices
h/t Instapundit
[TheHill] The Trump administration on Friday unveiled new rules to require increased disclosure of health care prices, in a move officials said would drive down costs by increasing competition.

One regulation would require hospitals to provide a consumer-friendly online page where prices are listed for 300 common procedures like X-rays and lab tests. A second regulation would require insurers to provide an online tool where people could compare their out-of-pocket costs at different medical providers before receiving treatment.

Officials billed the announcement as a major step in President Trump’s health care agenda. The move is controversial with the health care industry, as both hospitals and insurers have objected to having to disclose the information.

The Trump administration is seeking to make a range of health care announcements, mainly outside the scope of the Affordable Care Act, to show progress on an issue that Democrats used to great effect to help win back control of the House last year.
I guess the next Schiff's witness will be a hospital administrator.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/15/2019 12:09 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  of course the healthcare big wigs are worried about. Probably not the nurses and such.
Posted by: chris || 11/15/2019 16:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Letting customers choose based on price information? That's like a market economy! The horror...
Posted by: SteveS || 11/15/2019 16:44 Comments || Top||

#3  Most patients have either Insurance, Medicare, or Medicaid and price isn't much of an issue. Insurance companies usally have steep discounts (example: 30K Facilities bull discounted down to 7K). You have to wonder if the Hospital is jacking up their prices or the Insurance is really good at negociation.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/15/2019 17:55 Comments || Top||

#4  Its a game. The government has always underpaid so the providers always overprice. Pox on both houses.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/15/2019 20:36 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
Starship TX progressing toward cryo-load testing.
[Twitter]


Work on the new launch and landing pads at L-39a FL covered at this link

The nose will not be put back on until all the basic stuff is working. This test article mk1 will do some short flights up to a maximum of 20km. Both new launch pads for the Starship/Starship heavy are progressing well. The Boca Chica TX and the new one at Launch Pad 39a in FL are the two new launch sites.
Posted by: 3dc || 11/15/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Don't be surprised if at some point SpaceX drops Vandy as California has just too many weird launch rules.
Posted by: 3dc || 11/15/2019 0:10 Comments || Top||


Chinook With Super Powerful New T408 Engines
[The Drive] The picture has emerged of a Boeing CH-47 Chinook helicopter fitted with a pair of powerful General Electric T408 engines. The company had said in May that it was preparing to flight test a Chinook equipped with these engines, which are the same ones found on Sikorsky's troubled, but immensely powerful CH-53K King Stallion.

The official Twitter account for the U.S. Army's Combat Capabilities Development Command's Aviation and Missile Center, which is situated at Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Alabama, posted a shot of the rear of the modified helicopter, which has the tail number 067, on the social media site on Nov. 12, 2019. The Tweet also included a view of the same helicopter from the front, but taken at a different time when it had no engines installed at all.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/15/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Mmmm...bigger engines on the eggbeaters.
Maybe ground support weapons are next for the ACH-47?
Posted by: Skidmark || 11/15/2019 11:56 Comments || Top||

#2  A 47 pilot once described his aircraft as 47,000 spare parts flying in close formation. Is adding more really a good idea?
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 11/15/2019 12:20 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Federal Appeals Court Rules Ban on Pre-Game Prayer Violates Free Speech
[Breitbart] A federal court has partially reversed a lower court's decision to prohibit prayers being broadcast on loudspeakers ahead of Christian schools'; sporting events, ruling that the ban violated free speech and free exercise rights.

The Florida High School Athletic Association (FHSAA) rule prohibited prayer at the Citrus Bowl prior to a state championship game between two Christian schools.

In Wednesday's decision, the U.S. Court of Appeals Eleventh Circuit ruled that Cambridge Christian School’s argument has merit and litigation could continue, a press release from the First Liberty Institute, which is representing the school, said.

"No one should be shocked that two Christian schools would want to start their game with a prayer over the loudspeaker before kickoff, Jeremy Dys, special counsel for litigation and communication for First Liberty told Breitbart News. "The FHSAA's categorical ban on prayer is the type of hostility toward religion the First Amendment forbids."

Breitbart News asked Dys why prayer is considered a special category of speech not protected by the First Amendment?

"It is not," Dys said. "The only difference here is that the FHSAA preferred secular speech over religious speech."

"That, the court determined, may violate the Constitution," Dys said
Posted by: Frank G || 11/15/2019 10:21 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under:


Government
Federal Thrift Savings Board Insists on Investing in China Stock
Little Marco' gettin' upset!
[EpochTimes] "It's unconscionable that the Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board did not reverse their short-sighted‐and foolish‐decision to transfer the retirement savings of our service members and federal employees to the Chinese Communist Party," Rubio told The Epoch Times on Nov. 14.

The TSB met on Oct. 28 and opted to continue as planned as a result of its decision to move its International Fund Index to the MSCI All Country World ex-U.S. Investable Market Index.
What the TSB is doing is is indeed "unconscionable".

But why should Rubio, Shaheen, Romney et al be upset?

It's just another case of unelected bureaucrats ignoring what elected officials want, and making their own policy.

The Senators were just fine with this when it happened to Trump.

Newsflash Little Marco -- the Deep State can choose to ignore you, too.

You created this monster. Enjoy getting strangled by it
Posted by: charger || 11/15/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Commies



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Two weeks of WOT
Fri 2019-11-15
  Roger Stone found guilty by D.C. jury.
Thu 2019-11-14
  121 ISIS militants and relatives surrender to Afghan forces in Nangarhar, 300+ in past week
Wed 2019-11-13
  Live: the House’s Trump Impeachment hearings starting at 10 a.m. ET
Tue 2019-11-12
  Israel hit by rockets after killing Islamic Jihad leader Abu al-Ata in Gaza
Mon 2019-11-11
  Thanks to all the veterans on Veterans Day!
Sun 2019-11-10
  Bolivia's president announces his resignation
Sat 2019-11-09
  Will Julian Assange Die in Prison? Is that why a "dead man" data dump just took place?
Fri 2019-11-08
  WikiLeaks just dropped their databomb
Thu 2019-11-07
  Extremist outfit Allahr Dal banned in Bangladesh
Wed 2019-11-06
  Mexico Deploys Forces to Northern State After Nine US Mormons Killed
Tue 2019-11-05
  Three American Mormon mothers and six of their children are EXECUTED
Mon 2019-11-04
  Report: Turkey-backed militia attacks American troops in Syria
Sun 2019-11-03
  Three people detained in connection with Swedish explosion
Sat 2019-11-02
  Iraqis pour into streets for biggest protest day since Saddam
Fri 2019-11-01
  Iraqi President Salih says PM Abdul-Mahdi willing to resign, vows early polls


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