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-Lurid Crime Tales-
The Price of Weed in your neighborhood...
Looks like comparative shopping has hit the black market.
Posted by: Water Modem || 09/28/2010 01:20 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The "War on Drugs" is a kafka-esque joke. After decades and decades, billions and billions spent, hundreds of thousands incarcerated and prosecuted, hundreds killed in ilicit trade-related violence, drugs are everywhere. Usage (and abuse) are more prevalent. Prohibition = epic fail. Then there's the connection to failed states, terrorism, illegal immigration and a host of other ills.
Posted by: DJ Curtis C || 09/28/2010 5:19 Comments || Top||

#2  But it provides a lot of federal employment DJCC.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/28/2010 5:49 Comments || Top||

#3  That's because the 'war' hasn't started. It's certainly not run like one.

It should be:

Grow drugs - You die.
Smuggle drugs - You die.
Sell drugs - You die.
Use drugs - You die.

Then I'll consider the war to have actually started and we'll see some improvement after the initial bloodbath.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 09/28/2010 6:13 Comments || Top||

#4  Fascinating site. Everybody gets high quality almost regardless of price. And a lot of people are willing to supply information, though we don't know how many haven't even smoked a Camel yet or work for the DEA. It is also a statement in the foolish assumption that what you do on the internet is anonymous, even though they know your town when they ask for a price quote.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/28/2010 7:11 Comments || Top||

#5  Saudi Arabia has a pretty effective war on drugs. Singapore too.
Our prisons are full of marijuana smokers making connections and learning the intricacies of the drug business.
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/28/2010 7:17 Comments || Top||

#6  Decivilization, just two blocks south then a sharp left. We'll likely be grinding cow horn into potion, drinking blood, and dancing under full moonlight soon. It may be a bit tame, but I've been known to play a mean didgeridoos, please advise.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/28/2010 7:21 Comments || Top||

#7  once again, this is probably not going to be the popular view...

but i really think the best thing to do would be to legalise hard drugs on prescription from doctors.

Think about it: because it is then free/cheap you drive the drug dealers and pushers out of business

You take away the income generating capacity for the drug cartels

the coca farms lie rotting in the sun because they aren't getting money for their produce.

Drugs available on prescription are grown by the government only not private enterprise and provided through very super secure dispensaries. Perhaps people have to physically go there, use under supervision then leave not taking any home with them.

The worst part about drugs is not the actual drugs - it's the criminal cartels who make so much money out of them they become a law unto themselves.

Smash them first perhaps?
Posted by: anon1 || 09/28/2010 7:55 Comments || Top||

#8  oops, forgot to add: available on prescription from secure dispensaries - not for anyone but only for REGISTERED addicts.
Posted by: anon1 || 09/28/2010 7:56 Comments || Top||

#9  #8 oops, forgot to add: available on prescription from secure dispensaries - not for anyone but only for REGISTERED addicts.
Posted by anon1

Simply an expansion of the Medical Marijuana Pharmacy product line eh?
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/28/2010 8:16 Comments || Top||

#10  because it is then free/cheap

anon1,
No, the drug companies would patent time-release, enteric-coated versions and air glossy ads during the Super Bowl and charge the same price the market has already proven willing to bear.
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/28/2010 8:47 Comments || Top||

#11  If the people want to go to hell, let them do so, inexpensively and non-violently. Let us try to talk them out of it to be sure; but having failed to do so, how violent do we want to be in preventing their journey?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/28/2010 8:47 Comments || Top||

#12  Glenmore,

In the good old days, doctors, lawyers and pharma couldn't advertise. We could return.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/28/2010 8:49 Comments || Top||

#13  Anon,

I actually believe that pot should be decriminalized and sold under the same restrictions as alcohol - after all, who's ever seen a belligerent stoner?
You mention, however:

You take away the income generating capacity for the drug cartels

This is a problem that no one seems to consider: why are the cartels (in this case, weed) going to go away? This is a multi-billion dollar a year industry, and it's unlikely that these kindly gentlemen - or the small local pot farmer - are going to simply quit growing just because the state now says it's legal. The cartels are going to flood the market with weed that will be even cheaper than it is now, because it won't have the costs and taxes on it that the state will add. The personal grower sure as heck isn't going to stop, because he or she has no incentive to. Not to mention that state-grown (or at least state-sold) weed is going to have to be grown in accordance with any number of regulations and environmental rules that is going to make the stuff even more expensive than cigarettes.
I believe that once the stuff's legal, we're going to see a war on drugs unlike anything we've EVER seen before because now the State in all its power and majesty has its cut to defend. The State isn't going to allow legalization because weed is a relatively harmless substance - it's going to allow it because there's money to be made, and they aren't going to allow anyone or anything to get a dime of that. You think the War on Drugs is a horror show now? Wait until they're legal.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 09/28/2010 8:59 Comments || Top||

#14  Then what will the "legal" pot smoking age be, and how might it be enforced? Do we not already have enough of a challenge with our teens and alcohol? What will the legal consumption limit be for a Delta Airline pilot?
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/28/2010 9:16 Comments || Top||

#15  Ah, yes, just legalize it and all the death and mayhem ends. NOT. Since the end of Prohibition we've simply moved the death and carnage column on the books from one entry to another. More Americans have died on our roads and highway in alcohol related deaths than all the war since, not counting the murders and homicides committed under the influence. Just be honest about it.

As for 'legalizing' check how states regulate existing alcohol sales and distributorships. Many grant limited licensing. That means a few families or 'cartels' have the license and make big bucks which some how manage to find their way into your politician's reelection funds. Mexico politicians were generally corrupt already, but drugs simply threw the figurative gasoline on the fire. So, just understand that we'll follow the Mexican model of even more corruption.

And just prepare for even more drugs flowing into the hands and lives of the kiddies. It's bad enough with tobacco, alcohol and illegal drugs. Americans are overweight because food is cheap and readily available. Just toss in cheap and readily available drugs. Outlaw salt, sugar, and fat, but make sure they can get their little hands on the stuff. At least it should drop the usage of Ritalin administered by the education professionals upon them.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/28/2010 9:17 Comments || Top||

#16  Dudes... you're harshing my mellow.
Posted by: Swanimote || 09/28/2010 9:35 Comments || Top||

#17  Someone on another blog (Classical Values, I think) put the whole legalization of drugs situation very plainly: to wit, with the availability of drugs we will either have a 'legal' problem, or a 'public health' problem. One or the other. Our choice.
Posted by: Sgt.Mom || 09/28/2010 10:07 Comments || Top||

#18  I am always amazed by the concept that there are people out there who are not now using drugs but will use them as soon as they become legal. We can't even keep them out of prisons! No one who wants them cannot now get them. No one who wants to experiment has not been offered freebies. Especially the kiddies.

Making them legal will not significantly change the number of people who use them. All that will change is the frequency of use and the money and violence involved in their distribution.

If we are a nation of stoners, let's get on with it. But I doubt we are, just as we are not a nation of drunks. That we are so tolerant of those who are drunks should not be taken out on those who drink responsibly, but those who don't.

The Delta pilots should be subject to random drug testing regardless of whether drugs are legal or not.

Legalize or go the silentbrick route. In between is chaos and lawlessness.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/28/2010 11:17 Comments || Top||

#19  If you don't think we don't have a voting dependent class now - just wait until you give them affordable, cheap, legal, and socially acceptable weed. Its the ultimate Democrat ball-and-chain: Vote for the conservative and they'll take away all your weed....

And yes - I think usage would go way-up if you made it 'legal' - then it would be socially 'acceptable' to light up a pipe in public.

Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/28/2010 11:26 Comments || Top||

#20  The drug problem in China is under control. You get convicted, you become an organ doner.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/28/2010 11:29 Comments || Top||

#21  And yes - I think usage would go way-up if you made it 'legal' - then it would be socially 'acceptable' to light up a pipe in public.

Legality and social acceptability are orthogonal concepts. Smoking tobacco is legal. In many circles it is socially unacceptable. Smoking dope is illegal. In many circles, including I suspect the White House, it is socially acceptable. I also suspect you can go to rock concerts where many pipes are lit up.

There are legal and social limitations on where alcohol can be consumed. I doubt that if the sale and use of drugs were legalized that it would be less fettered than the sale and use of alcohol, probably more so.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/28/2010 11:45 Comments || Top||

#22  I agree w/NS. Cigarettes & dip are legal - I don't smoke or dip. I could be an alcoholic but I'm not. I could over indulge in food but I don't and am not fat.

I don't buy the cartel argument that they will just flood the market w/cheaper pot...how many beer cartels are there doing this? How many liquour cartels are doing like wise? What about the cigarette cartels under selling marlboro?

I don't have a problem w/decriminalizing pot. Tax, regulate like alcohol...make it 21 and over or whatever the regs are. In a perfect world Let the states make the decision they think best for their state - if CA wants it - I can always move there or away. That's my opinion anyhow.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 09/28/2010 11:55 Comments || Top||

#23  Cato

The Budgetary Impact of Ending Drug Prohibition
Posted by: Beavis || 09/28/2010 12:44 Comments || Top||

#24  Go ahead. Legalize it. But you're gonna miss this Western Civilization when it's gone. You'll be sitting in a teepee and staring at your belly button, willing the hunger and the cold to go away, smoking it away, annoyed at your baby's crying and your wife's bitching. Because who's gonna fly your airplanes or clean your teeth or maintain all those nukes? Who's gonna keep the Chicoms from marching in here, lining us up and shooting us down? Huh? They'll be too busy watching cartoons, you know. Like, grooving. Out to pasture, man.

Yeah, the war on drugs is a joke. All it does is keep the prices high for the crooked fat cats who are raking in the money and it gives the cops an excuse for a little bit of selective enforcement, ie., keep those black guys in jail but leave the white kids alone. Just like our border is a joke. Other countries manage to secure their borders. The reason we don't is because there are too many crooked fat cats making too much money from all the corruption.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 09/28/2010 12:51 Comments || Top||

#25  EU you are posing a false choice. If pot was legal very few more people would use it than do now. The same people that fly the planes today would fly them tomorrow.

Even stoners grow up and put away their childish things for the most part. I know many people from my college days that pretty much gave it all up within a couple of years of graduation. Your concern seems like something right out of "Reefer Madness"......so just chill dude ;^)
Posted by: Alan Cramer || 09/28/2010 13:36 Comments || Top||

#26  If we're going to legalize drugs, my only demand is that at the same time we quit supporting drug addicts.

You can't get/hold a job because of your drug use? Too bad; sleep in the gutter. I don't want one thin dime of my hard-earned money going to support these clowns. (And while we're at it, the same goes for alcoholics, too. No public assistance for them either. I'm sick of supporting people because of their addictions.)
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 09/28/2010 13:49 Comments || Top||

#27  I don't want one thin dime of my hard-earned money going to support these clowns.

...but, but the children(tm). They usual suspects will make sure they'll get the productive citizens' money by playing the usual guilt game.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/28/2010 13:55 Comments || Top||

#28  Alan, I think you missed the earlier remark about social acceptance. You are also missing the part about how all these black market types are not going to fold up shop just because the government opens a competing shop. The same old bad guys will continue to take the stuff to our schools. Did you know that kids are far more likely to get hooked than adults? They don't have the maturity or the good judgment that they will after they turn 21. So when some older, cooler kid draws a white line for them on a coke board they'll try it. That's right. Eleven year old kids in elementary schools. You know it's happening already. Don't forget the cocaine and heroin. Keep in mind the crystal meth while your at it. Let's see...then there's ecstasy, oxycontin, pcp, vicoden, etc., etc. There are so many good ways to be bad, as the poet once said, and the bad guys will not stop with pot. Are you willing to draw a line somewhere or would you just let all those little kiddies go to hell?

Silentbrick might be going a little too far. I just can't see myself shooting Lindsey Lohan. Sorry. I would put army troops on the border with orders to shoot to kill when anybody steps across the line. But, as I said, our government has gotten way too corrupt for such a sensible solution.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 09/28/2010 14:31 Comments || Top||

#29  Don't forget that an addiction often (very often) does not effect only the addicted. There is the family who suffers with them. I've known a family where the father was addicted to drugs (harder than weed - I think it was coke or crack). Would steal money from his wife - even his own kids. Sell family stuff for dope. Several trips through rehab. nobody wanted to give up on him - he was basically a 'good man' just tangled up in something over his head. He ended up suiciding in despair. In actuality I think he did it to free his wife family.

There are people who chose not to smoke it because it's illegal.

This is much the same argument for having condom dispensers in high (and middle / elementary) school restrooms - "they are going to do it anyway" so why not? It'll make it safe! All it does is give a big, green light. The words say 'disapprove' while the actual actions say 'approve'.

Actions always speak louder than words.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/28/2010 16:23 Comments || Top||

#30  Come on guys, many of you are starting to sound like my father.

Marijuana is not going to cause the fall of western civilization. It is already de facto legal in california, just pay a doc $100 for the card. I refuse to believe that a great number of people are going to give up their lives and turn into hippies because it is legalized.

As for the cartel issue- These guys are career criminals, they will turn to kidnapping or extortion if you legalize MJ. They will not get part time jobs at Target, they will just commit different crimes, they will follow the money.
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 09/28/2010 16:55 Comments || Top||

#31  I admit my way would be a bloodbath the first generation, but after that, it will taper off and in the long run, save more lives.

I'm against legalization. To me it's a moral choice not to simply write those people off if you legalize it. You may as well kill them. Besides, if smoking is so horrid, why are we going to legalize something else you frigging smoke?

Plus, it's already reaching the point where you can't fire alcoholics since it's treated as a disability, after you legalize drugs, what makes you think it won't happen with it as well. Oh, Bob's a stoner, but you can't fire him, even if he does drive his bus through a crowd every time he's toking up.

Posted by: Silentbrick || 09/28/2010 17:28 Comments || Top||

#32  It is already de facto legal in california, just pay a doc $100 for the card.

I rest my case :)
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/28/2010 17:34 Comments || Top||

#33  I think somebody was spot on when they said:

legalise it and you have a "public health" problem

don't legalise it and you have a "criminal" problem.

But it costs a lot of money to run jails, and the population has exploded in the clink.

I think on balance it might be better to still have drugs outlawed, but more a misdemeanour with fines the penalty.

Instead, have the hard drugs available on prescription to addicts, to dry up the money.

The growers will still grow.

The drug cartels will still try to make money.

But if you are a heroin addict itching for a fix and instead of having to rob a 7-11 at gunpoint for $50 you can go to a secure medical facility, and - being registered and certified as an addict by a doctor - be given the fix you now need to stay sane, then I think society will benefit.

The money trail dries up.

That addict doesn't give the stolen $50 to the dealer, who doesn't give it to his upline... and so on back to Afghanistan.

and instead of spending the money on law enforcement maybe spend it on public education showing people the bad effects of drug use.

i think it might actually be better to turn it into a public health problem rather than a criminal problem.

same goes for the coca farmers in south america. If cocaine is no longer worth however many thousands, then the risks to export to the US suddenly become not so worth it anymore.
Posted by: anon1 || 09/28/2010 18:41 Comments || Top||

#34  Middle ground hybrid is the way to go, IMHO.
Find a way to taint drug supplies via a secret DEA unit undercover with a chemical that makes one have to go to a doctor and have medical attention, then flag the person's medical record for recreational drug use, and raise their health insurance, putting them in their own high risk indemnity group. Kind of like raising cigarettes to ten dollars a pack. “I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying."- Oscar Wilde
Posted by: Private Eye || 09/28/2010 18:53 Comments || Top||

#35  If they don't have health insurance, take a payroll deduction for the cost of their own drug rehab. If they don't have a job, take it out of their unemployment benefits. If they are a student, take away their student loans. If they are jobless, not a student and uninsured, issue a citation.
Posted by: Private Eye || 09/28/2010 18:55 Comments || Top||

#36  and instead of spending the money on law enforcement maybe spend it on public education showing people the bad effects of drug use.

The education piece has been happening in the schools since the 1960s, anon1. I remember being shown "Reefer Madness" and being too young to understand what it meant, except that it was bad. It was a very progressive school system -- we were mostly professors' offspring, and in addition to sex ed. in nine of my twelve years of primary and secondary education, we were also taught exactly why and how drugs were bad. I was probably the only student put off by this information -- but then, my mother was working toward advanced degrees in Health Ed. at the time, so we were discussing it at home as well.

Education about side effects does not influence normal people, as far as I can tell. Social attitude does: the trailing daughters and their friends mostly think that using drugs is proof of stupidity, so they don't... except for formerly temporary daughter, who went through a stage where she thought it was glamourously dangerous, and therefore artistic and edgy, which is how she thinks of herself. But then she and her boyfriend nearly got caught by the police, and were smart enough to decide it wasn't worth it.

In these difficult times, it's hard enough to find a job when you're young if you're absolutely perfect. With drugs on your record, you simply can't compete.

then the risks to export to the US suddenly become not so worth it anymore.

They're exporting cocaine to Europe, too, via North Africa, as I recall. Hizb'allah and Al Qaeda protect the transports and take a cut of the profits. That won't stop just because it becomes legal in the U.S.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/28/2010 19:02 Comments || Top||

#37  the population has exploded in the clink.

And it is disproportionately black. That will haunt this country for a long time. Along with the welfare policies of the "Great Society" we have devastated the black family and community that has not been able to take advantage of the change in people's attitudes that might otherwise have been possible. Remember that when the Coleman Report was written in the late 60's the black illegitimacy rate was less than 30%.

What a waste this War on Drugs has been. All so that pathetic people who want to get high and escape their lives have to steal to pay for the poison.

And don't tell me about the kiddies at school. A neighbor in my upper middle class neighborhood tried to sell my 10 year old pot and made sure he knew where to get some when he was ready to start. The cops tossed his trash for a few weeks, but didn't come up with anything and unless I wanted my kid to testify, there wasn't anything else they could do. The kids are going to be approached by someone sooner or later. That's a tough thing, but it's part of growing up and we all had to go through it.

Barb, we should stop supporting the addicts now, legal or illegal. In fact, it makes more sense to support them when it's legal, but not very much.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/28/2010 19:09 Comments || Top||

#38  Ya know, on third thought, I think there are too many bureaucratic loopholes exploitable under legalization. Silentbrick's

Grow drugs - You die.
Smuggle drugs - You die.
Sell drugs - You die.
Use drugs - You die.

Makes the most sense, because, after all if you take a lot of drugs, you're kind of wishing to die anyway, and if you sell drugs you're profiteering off the lives you take, and if you don't die, you're still half dead. So cut out the middleman. And yes, I have lived abroad in countries with a drug death penalty and drug use is lower. Much Lower. BTW, 100% of the schoolmates I knew growing up who died of drug overdoses before age 30 (four, personally) were caucasian. The black and druggie meme seems a little thin and worn out.
Posted by: Private Eye || 09/28/2010 19:28 Comments || Top||

#39  If I remember my research correctly one reason that Pot was made illegal was the ending of prohibition. The untouchables needed a new set of baddies to justify their existence. I've forgotten which one of J. Edgar's boys it was that pushed it (maybe Melvin whatshisname (Purvis?)) back in the mid/late '30s. That was the time of Reefer madness.

I was an RA in '70-'72 and learned a whole lot about all sorts of drugs up close and personal. Even had to help pull a bad trip off the fire escape that he was sure he could fly from. Soapers and 'ludes were probably the worst problem, followed closely by fake THC aka PCP aka angel dust. Amazing what pig tranquilizers do to a person. Pot was a total non-issue even as far as class attendance and work went.

Make pot legal and control it like booze.

I totally agree with the non-support of addicts. They made their choices, they can live or die from them. If there are kids involved take them and find homes for them.
Posted by: Alan Cramer || 09/28/2010 20:38 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Armani goes sheek Arabian
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/28/2010 09:49 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The images this invokes.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/28/2010 13:42 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
One dead, three injured in Iran quake
Either Allah is very annoyed at the rulers of Iran, or the Stuxnet worm has some very unexpected side effects now its been loose in the wild for a while. Those Israelis sure can program!
[Iran Press TV] While a conclusive damage report has yet to be released, casualty estimates show the strong earthquake that rocked Iran's southern Far Province has killed one man and injured three others.

A man working on a well fell to his death when the 6.1-magnitude jolted the region at 14:53 (1122 GMT) on Monday, Mehr News Agency reported.

Villages near the quake's center are believed to have been hit worst by the natural disaster and several areas of the region have reported power outages, a provincial crisis authority said.
Posted by: Fred || 09/28/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Africa Subsaharan
ANC communist gov't police receive weapons and tactics training in the US.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/28/2010 08:30 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Uh, uh, "W-O-L-V-E-R-I-N-E-S"! = 1980's RED DAWN.

Gut nuthin.

Save to say DA WORLD HAS CHANGED???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/28/2010 22:15 Comments || Top||


Chinese footprint in Africa continues to grow.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/28/2010 08:25 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ION CINA, PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUMS > CHINA DEMANDS JAPAN ACT ["practical measures"]TO REPAIR TIES FOLOWING TRAWLER ROW [Japan's release of detained Chin Skipper taint enuff for Beijing].

* SAME > CHINA, RUSSIA TEAM UP ON [JAPAN = post WW2] TERRITORIAL CLAIMS: DAILY YOMIURI (JAPAN MEDIA).

* TOPIX > RUSSIA BACKS CHINA'S CLAIMS ON DISPUTED ISLANDS/DAOYUS.

* REUTERS > CHINA TELLS JAPAN NOT TO INTERFERE IN DISPUTED ISLES [Chin Fishery Vessels = Trawlers + Patrol Boats].

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CHINESE MILITARY FORUM > [China-Defense-Mashup.com]HAS THE CHINESE NAVY OUTGROWN THE FIRST ISLAND CHAIN? + CHINA BOOSTS POWER [PLA MilSat-Recce] ON OFFSHORE ISLANDS [South China Seas].

ARTIC MAP > OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF COLORED NATIONAL FLAGS DEPICTED IN SOUTH CHINA SEAS REGION BELONG TO CHINA + CPLA.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/28/2010 21:45 Comments || Top||


Pick n Pay and Massmart to stay - Walmart not welcome.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/28/2010 08:20 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  South Africa?

Why the hell would Wal-Mart want to build there? Do they have so much excess money they want to throw it away?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 09/28/2010 13:54 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Poll setback for Hugo
[Al Jazeera] Voters have chosen the ruling socialist party of Venezuelan supremo Hugo Chavez as the winner of the country's parliamentary elections.

However,
The infamous However...
while his party has won the most seats, strong opposition gains have robbed it of enough votes to grease new laws.
How on earth did that happen when it's his people counting the ballots?
Easy. The opposition started with 80% of the vote ...
The AFP news agency reported, quoting the Venezuelan electoral council, that the ruling party won at least 90 out of 165 seats in the National Assembly in Sunday's vote, with up to 61 seats going to the good guys.

Having thus managed to deny the Chavez camp a two-thirds majority, his opponents will have more clout in trying to put a check on his delusions of grandeur.

Lucia Newman, Al Jazeera's correspondent reporting from Caracas, the Venezuelan capital, said it is a pie in the face for Chavez and a dream come true for his opponents.

"Although the ruling party did get the simple majority, the popular vote went to the good guys," she said.

Changed political landscape
"Supporters of President-for-Life Chavez tried to put on a very brave face this morning but they recognise the political scenario here has totally changed."

However,
This story is crawling with Howevers...
Colin Harding, a Latin American analyst, pointed out that Chavez will still have his current, "huge majority" until January.

"I suspect during that time, he will push through measures to actually sidetrack congress, " Harding told Al Jazeera. "I mean, if the opposition have got a big representation in the national assembly, he will push through measures to give more power to what they call communal councils."
Posted by: Fred || 09/28/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  tHugo needs to be hit in the face with an aluminum baseball bat.
What a weasel.
Posted by: Mike Hunt || 09/28/2010 12:23 Comments || Top||

#2  Hugo needs to be hit in the face with an aluminum baseball bat.

Why not use a good ole Louieville Slugger.....sometimes they splinter
Posted by: armyguy || 09/28/2010 12:28 Comments || Top||

#3  If you get that close please use something more permanent than a baseball bat.
Posted by: Iblis || 09/28/2010 19:14 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
China police probe 'black jails'
[Al Jazeera] Authorities in Beijing are investigating a security firm that was allegedly paid by local governments to lock up petitioners in secret "black jails," Chinese state media has reported.

Police in China's capital have already detained the chairman and general manager of Anyuanding Security Service Company for "illegally detaining people and illegal business operations," the official China Daily said on Monday.

The firm allegedly helped Beijing-based liaison offices of some local governments around China to detain petitioners who had come to the capital to try to seek redress over a variety of problems, it added.

Under a system dating from imperial times, Chinese people can petition government authorities in Beijing or scenic provincial capitals over injustices or unresolved disputes such as illegal land grabs or police misconduct.

Complains of unresponsiveness
But many citizens complain of unresponsiveness, and some have said they were held for weeks or months in secret detention facilities known as "black jails," the existence of which has
repeatedly been denied by the government.

According to the report, Anyuanding would take petitioners to hotels or rented houses, where they were locked up, their IDs and phones seized, until the liaison offices told the company to send them back home.

The Beijing News, which visited one of the hotels where petitioners were allegedly held by the firm, said witnesses had heard people call for help from inside, and screamed that others
were being beaten up.

The firm refused to comment when contacted by the AFP news agency, and Beijing police were not immediately available for comment.
Posted by: Fred || 09/28/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Politix
Carter hospitalized
Former President Jimmy Carter has been taken to the hospital after landing at Cleveland Hopkins Airport Tuesday morning, sources said.

NewsChannel5 crews at MetroHealth Medical Center said an ambulance arrived with Secret Service crews and an Ohio State Highway Patrol cruiser following it. People in the emergency room at the hospital told our crew they were kicked out because they were told “President Carter is coming.”
Posted by: tipper || 09/28/2010 13:04 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well... um...

the best thing I can say is at least he can't do any more damage in a hospital bed.
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/28/2010 13:28 Comments || Top||

#2  where's the pic of a man biting his toungue?
Posted by: Nero Glailet2404 || 09/28/2010 13:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Mama always said if you can't say something nice about someone, don't say anything at all.

So I'll shut up now.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 09/28/2010 13:35 Comments || Top||

#4  Maybe jimmuh's "unexpected, tragic" death and resultant state funeral hoohaw will be oboobie's October surprise?
Posted by: M. Murcek || 09/28/2010 14:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Dr. Steve - can you prescribe 48 - 72 Days months of bed rest and isolation? There...there Jimmah...this will make you (and us) feel much better
Posted by: Warthog || 09/28/2010 15:22 Comments || Top||

#6  Latest news is that he got "airsick".

Now he knows how his antics make the rest of feel.
Posted by: Captain Ulaper3630 || 09/28/2010 15:32 Comments || Top||

#7  the best thing I can say is at least he can't do any more damage in a hospital bed.

But apparently he can. It says people were kicked out of the emergency room because "Carter is coming". I'd let him wait his turn behind all the peons who were already there. It'd be fun to see how classy a guy he really is under those circumstances.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 09/28/2010 15:50 Comments || Top||

#8  Now now....

Its not nice to wish someone else ill - even someone as slimey, digusting, hateful, and just plain ass wrong - as Jimmy Carter.

So lets all with him well ok?

May he get well soon and spend the rest of his life in quiet reflection (read: shut the f-k up) and eventually die in his sleep.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/28/2010 16:38 Comments || Top||

#9  I'll second Barbara's comment.
Posted by: Hellfish || 09/28/2010 17:39 Comments || Top||

#10  Got nothing to say.
Posted by: DMFD || 09/28/2010 19:10 Comments || Top||

#11  Not interested until the news is he has assumed ambient temperature, and fulfilled his best destiny: becoming fertilizer.
Posted by: No I am The Other Beldar || 09/28/2010 19:18 Comments || Top||

#12  Communists, Joo Haters, and Tin-pot Dictators everywhere are looking for tweets on Jimmuh's status, worried that one of their own, a small, mean-spirited, sanctimonious, bitter asshole might be ailing.
Posted by: Frank G || 09/28/2010 20:35 Comments || Top||

#13  I guess I'd offer him Preparation H.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/28/2010 20:58 Comments || Top||

#14 
Posted by: gorb || 09/28/2010 22:46 Comments || Top||

#15  I'm surprised they took him to Metro hospital in Cleveland instead of one of the other Cleveland Clinics Hospitals, which have a more avante gard approach to medicine. Metro is sort of considered the county hospital in The Land of Cleve.
Posted by: Mr. Bill || 09/28/2010 22:46 Comments || Top||


A Maryland Judge with Judgement - who could have guessed
Judge Pitt dismisses charges against the motorcyclist who recorded the policeman during his speeding arrest. The judge found the policeman had no expectation of privacy under such circumstances and also found that the helmet cam was not a prohibited device intended for eavesdropping.

National Guard Sgt. Graber had faced up to 16 years in jail under this abuse of the state wiretapping law.
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/28/2010 09:49 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The words "secret" and "police" sometimes make sense together. In this case, however, no...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 09/28/2010 11:50 Comments || Top||

#2  Police should encourage taping of their activities in public. It not only protects the citizens, but the police as well from frivolous lawsuits/abuse charges that could permanently damage careers.

Any police department that reacts like this should be looked at even closer since the public's first question is, "What do you have to hide?"
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/28/2010 12:19 Comments || Top||

#3  > "What do you have to hide?"

Probably quite a lot.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/28/2010 12:26 Comments || Top||

#4  16 years?
Come on already.
Our legal system lands on some people a little too hard I think.
I could rob a person at gunpoint and beat them to near the point of death and not get 16 years!
I see it every day, the more grotesque the crime, the easier the sentence.
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 09/28/2010 17:01 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
analysis of Indian SAM network
Posted by: Water Modem || 09/28/2010 00:36 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And why should we care? We have never been at odds with India, these weapons are for one country and one country only- Wakistan.
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 09/28/2010 16:57 Comments || Top||

#2  these weapons are for one country and one country only- Wakistan.

Not China, too, bigjim?
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/28/2010 18:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Andwhy should we care? We have never been at odds with India, these weapons are for one country and one country only- Wakistan.

Because you never sit back and say "we'll never go to war with [pick a nation]". Things change.

Complacency kills.
Posted by: Pappy || 09/28/2010 21:45 Comments || Top||


Flood-affected youth being tricked into debauchery
[Dawn] Floods washed away the infrastructure, economy, houses, hearths crops and livestock and mafias taking advantage of the situation shattered the dreams of our future generations by sending Sindh's youth into male prostitution.

Floods have made many a princes pauper bringing them to a naught. Their homes, belongings and future prospects all drained down in waters.

Fifteen-year-old Nadeem Chandio of Larkana lost everything to floods and was living with his family in a roadside camp in Hyderabad. He fell in an ugly trap for substance. He was lured for a waiter's job by an Ustad (mafia man) but is learning to dance. This is only a tip of the iceberg as many thousands of vulnerable children are being trained first to become dancers and subsequently prostitutes. Exploitation of children is now a lucrative business for those in this business and they find ample of opportunities to milk these innocent boys.

Chilling realities came to fore when Dawn's correspondent bumped into some youths who were staying in hotels near railway stations. The place, it came to knowledge, was previously occupied by some dancing boys which was now replaced by some new comers.

Further investigation revealed that a mafia was on a lookout for flood-affected families and their children.

Posing as gentlemen, mafia people first gel into families through fake kindness and then successfully become guardian of their children by promising job and money both, while children end up as dancing boys who are then sent to festivals, private functions, dance parties and prostitution.

Not only their dreams get shattered but their education, social and physical prospects are totally drowned in the sea of vice. These poor chaps wearing anklets not only dance to the tunes of music but are also used for sexual amusements.

Ustad Hashim Chandio is busy exploiting the vulnerability of such families by hiring their boys for fake jobs while brain-washing their innocent mind with his evil thoughts.

Nadeem is not alone as there are scores of boys from Thatta, Dadu, Ghotki, Sukkur, Larkana, Qambar Shahdadkot and Jamshoro districts and were tricked into becoming dancers and languishing in hotels-cum-sexual amusement dens near Karachi, Lahore and Mirpurkhas railway stations and at places near Badin stop, new bridge, Railway station Hyderabad.

Another 16 year old boy hailing from Tando Adam narrating his ordeals said that he came to Hyderabad three years ago
Erm... three years ago the flood hadn't happened yet. Could it possibly be that this issue considerably predates the current emergency? Possibly by centuries??
with one of his teenaged relative who said that he was working at a bungalow. The two boys shared the same hotel room where his relative sexually exploited him and eventually he too, became like his relative.

Few among them work as masseurs for enticing such customers. Ustad Chandio's den is near Mirpurkhas railway station. He blames is diabetes for not letting him do a proper job work and thus teaches dancing to teenage boys and sends them to festivals with each earning Rs1000 to Rs1500 per night, of which he bears expenses of transportation, makeup, laundry, food and accommodation and gives Rs7,000 to parents of each boy.

He doesn't fear any action for having good relations with local politician while paying police its share regularly.

He says that he is not the only man involved in this business as many Ustads in Sindh and other provinces provide entertainment to politician, feudal lords and police officials, he said.

Recruitment of children for dancing is a severe crime and falls into the domain of child trafficking or forced labour. Moreover, Prevention of Human Trafficking Ordinance 2002 prohibits any kind of exploitation in which children are exposed to abuse.

The government should take serious notice of this, specially, after floods as unemployment and poverty have increased manifold.

It is more likely that children will be exploited by sex traffickers through employment opportunities, said Salam Dharejo, National Manager on Child Labour, Society for the Protection of the Rights of Child (SPARC).

District Police Officer Mirpurkhas, Zulfiqar Maher expressed his unawareness about the presence of dancing boys in his jurisdiction and assured of assigning officers for the job. He said that in the record of Mirpurkhas police no sex trafficker or entertainer boy has ever been jugged.
Posted by: Fred || 09/28/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  Wisconsin teens are advised to beware!
Posted by: JDB || 09/28/2010 21:52 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
Breastfeeding 'prevents baby infections,' research suggests - Who could have imagined?
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/28/2010 07:40 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  aaand in latest breaking news... water has been found to be good for your health

you read these stories so many times... you know the ones. They usually start with "researchers" at some university miraculously "discovering" that breastfeeding is healthier for babies than formula

or some such really obvious fact

but now they've worked out how to explain it

so it must be good for us.

fools

however sometimes

they like to turn it on it's head and say something harmless is really bad

eg: oxygen kills! beware. We need to take oxygen out of the atmosphere.

or ... carbon dioxide is a toxic poison!
Posted by: anon1 || 09/28/2010 7:51 Comments || Top||

#2  You know I'm really going to have to submit that $50M grant application to determine the color of the clear [blue] sky.

Then there's the $100M grant application to determine the wetness of water....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/28/2010 8:31 Comments || Top||

#3  I am personally very concerned about getting baby infections. What should I do?
Posted by: Iblis || 09/28/2010 9:58 Comments || Top||

#4  This goes to show that a little knowledge might be an interesting thing.

That is, for about two weeks after birth, infants are still "running" on their mother's immune system in their bodies, their own immune system not having fully engaged. It is during this time, they uptake their first culture of intestinal flora, and it establishes itself in their gut.

This is anywhere from 300-1000 different species of bacteria, fungi, and even some protozoa, and a much greater number (as yet unknown) of viruses, most of which are bacteriophage, that is, infecting bacteria. Of which a subset of about 30-40 species of bacteria compose about 99%+ of the total.

Because some people equate "more is better" with healthy bacteria, some new mothers have taken to having feeding parties, in which new mothers pass their infants around, to feed off other women. Which will have unknown consequences for the health of their children.

Ironically, when the infant switches to solid food, their intestinal bacteria undergo a major change, so as to be able to digest their new diet. This change happens perhaps several more times in their life, stabilizing with their adult diet, depending on where they live in the world.

Lots of things can damage the flora, such as antibiotics, radiation, illness, etc. Considerable success with restoring a normal flora has been accomplished with something called a "fecal transplant", aka a "chocolate shake".
Posted by: Anonymoose || 09/28/2010 10:42 Comments || Top||

#5  I need 100K so we can finally come to an agreement on the color of sh*t!
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 09/28/2010 17:02 Comments || Top||


INDIA: Whoops!
Posted by: Water Modem || 09/28/2010 00:47 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Culture Wars
Hold the presses, we can now report a California drug shortage.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/28/2010 08:09 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Can someone tell these IDIOTS that bullits are WAY cheaper
Posted by: armyguy || 09/28/2010 12:38 Comments || Top||

#2  how hard could this be too come by for a state governement? Also ask Texas for some I'm sure they keep plenty on hand.
Posted by: chris || 09/28/2010 17:11 Comments || Top||



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