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Africa North
Libya rebuffs EU demand to free medics
TRIPOLI - Calls by the EU Parliament for Libya to free medics sentenced to death for infecting hundreds of children with HIV will only worsen the prisoners’ situation, a charity run by Muammar Gaddafi’s son said on Friday. The parliament urged EU states on Thursday to review ties with oil-rich Libya and step up pressure to secure the early release of the five Bulgarian nurses and a Palestinian doctor.

“What the European Union announced recently, that it will put pressure on Libya to free the Bulgarians, will have a negative influence on the situation” of the medics, said a statement from the Gaddafi Foundation headed by Saif al-Islam, Libyan leader Gaddafi’s son and his most influential envoy. “All measures taken by the European Union against Libya will have negative consequences on the development in relations that Libya and the EU have seen recently.”
Translation: EU and what army?
Diplomats in Brussels said EU foreign ministers would tread a delicate path at a meeting in Brussels on Monday to avoid aggravating the situation.
Sure wouldn't want to aggrevate the Libyans, now would they.
According to a draft statement, they will express “grave concerns” about the plight of the medics and call for a ”positive, fair and prompt solution” to the case.
Ooooooh, a 'grave' concern, that's even worse than a 'serious' concern.
At the same time, they are expected to hold out the prospect of benefits to Libya rather than tough steps. “The statement is also expected to include the idea that EU-Libya relations could further develop if there is a resolution of this case,” a diplomat said, adding that the limited scale of current ties meant there was little to be gained by threatening to review relations.
"C'mon guys, why won't you take our bribe?"
“It is a difficult balancing act,” another EU diplomat said. “We want to make clear to Libya that the way they have conducted the trial is just not acceptable. On the other hand, from a Libyan perspective, this is a national judicial process and they don’t like being told to do it in a different way.
"They just hate to be told to follow the rules of humanity."

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Posted by: Steve White || 01/20/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  cut off Moammar's supply of Fembots and repair parts!
Posted by: Frank G || 01/20/2007 1:11 Comments || Top||

#2  If they had any brains whatsoever they would have realized that Reagan has already shown them how to deal with this clown.
Posted by: Mike N. || 01/20/2007 2:22 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm still betting Kadaffy is going to step in at the last minute and do a grand, magnanimous El Presidente pardon. But first, more circuses and taunting of the EU.
Posted by: SteveS || 01/20/2007 10:55 Comments || Top||

#4  Useless EU jabber. Send NATO troops in and get these people. If you eliminate this moron in the process, so much the better. Your f**king talk has produced ZERO results whether with Iran, this fool, or anywhere else you've ventured. Catch on.
Posted by: SpecOp35 || 01/20/2007 12:37 Comments || Top||

#5  What NATO troops? I thought all the fighting units were in Afghanistan, except for the British and Polish units in Iraq... and garrison units in the former Yugoslavia. Are the draftees really capable of even this kind of action?
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/20/2007 19:24 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Can Woman Read Qur’an While in Her Period?
Q. May I ask whether a woman can put her elbows on the floor during prostration in prayer, and whether she can read the Qur’an when she is in her period?

(Name and address withheld)

A. A woman is advised to bring her body together when she prostrates in prayer, which means that she should not put her arms or legs wide apart. Putting one’s elbows on the floor is not the proper position for man or woman. The Prophet describes prostration as putting seven bones on the floor. These are the forehead, the palms, the knees and the toes.

The majority of scholars agree that a woman should not read the Qur’an when she is in her period. The same applies to a man when he is in the state of ceremonial impurity, or janabah. The Prophet is quoted as saying: “I do not permit reading the Qur’an to a woman in menstruation or a man in ceremonial impurity.” However, some Hadith scholars cast doubt on this Hadith, describing it as lacking in authenticity. It is more advisable to avoid reading the Qur’an during menstruation, except where a verse is quoted in a book one is reading. A woman may engage in God’s glorification and praises at any time.
Posted by: Classer || 01/20/2007 08:47 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How about using one as a -er- napkin?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 01/20/2007 9:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Forehead-1
Palms-2 (presumably, although 1 is possible thanks to sharia law)
Knees-2 (or 1, see palms)
Leaving 2 for toes.
Do most pious Muslims have two toes, or do all pious Muslims have big toes longer than the 2nd toes, thus enabling them to load the bases at 7?
There's a whole school of foot reading that analyzes personality types by which of the toes is longest. Does anyone remember what is said about those whose first toe is longest?
Posted by: Jules || 01/20/2007 9:37 Comments || Top||

#3  But it says in the Koran that menstruation causes dyslexia.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/20/2007 9:44 Comments || Top||

#4  From the Pedigree Analysis Project"

"Big Toe Length
The length of the big toe is governed by the dominant gene, H. Individuals whose big toe is shorter in comparison to the second toe possess the dominant gene. The inheritance of the homozygous recessive, hh, results in the big toe being longer than or equal to the second toe."

There may be hope for the West yet. >:}
Posted by: Jules || 01/20/2007 9:52 Comments || Top||

#5  Islam makes it easy by preventing the wymyns from learning how to read. You don't need to know that to be able to breed, it only makes em uppity
Posted by: Frank G || 01/20/2007 10:16 Comments || Top||

#6  A woman (or a man) shouldn't have to read the Koran.
Posted by: gromgoru || 01/20/2007 10:23 Comments || Top||

#7  How ironic. Large parts of the Koran were made up recited by Mohammed while he lay in the lap of his menstruating wife.

Hadith Sahih Bukhari
Volume 1, Book 6, Number 296:

Narrated Aisha:

"The Prophet used to lean on my lap and recite Qur'an while I was in menses. "


Posted by: john || 01/20/2007 10:45 Comments || Top||

#8  Another Hadith
Sahih Muslim
Book 003, Number 0591:

'A'isha reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) would recline in my lap when I was menstruating, and recite the Qur'an.
Posted by: john || 01/20/2007 10:47 Comments || Top||

#9  Narrated Aisha:

"The Prophet used to lean on my lap and recite Qur'an while I was in menses. "


I didn't think 9 year old girls could menstruate.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 01/20/2007 11:03 Comments || Top||

#10  She was 18 when Mohammed died....


Sahih Bukhari

According to Aisha:

The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. [9]

According to Urwah ibn al-Zubayr:

Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old.[10]

According to Aisha:

the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).[11]

According to Ursa ibn al-Zubayr:

The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).[12]

Sahih Muslim

According to Aisha:

Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine. She further said: We went to Medina and I had an attack of fever for a month, and my hair had come down to the earlobes. Umm Ruman (my mother) came to me and I was at that time on a swing along with my playmates. She called me loudly and I went to her and I did not know what she had wanted of me. She took hold of my hand and took me to the door, and I was saying: Ha, ha (as if I was gasping), until the agitation of my heart was over. She took me to a house, where had gathered the women of the Ansar. They all blessed me and wished me good luck and said: May you have share in good. She (my mother) entrusted me to them. They washed my head and embellished me and nothing frightened me. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) came there in the morning, and I was entrusted to him. [13]

According to Aisha:

Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old [14]

According to Aisha:

Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.
Posted by: john || 01/20/2007 11:10 Comments || Top||

#11  . . . ceremonial impurity . .


Would the sorority girls in Animal House say EWWWWWW? I think so.
Posted by: Closh Slealing7392 || 01/20/2007 11:29 Comments || Top||

#12  There are a hell of a lot more bones in your feet than seven. Even during Mohammed's time they knew this.

Memo to myself: NEVER see a Muslim podiatrist.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 01/20/2007 11:42 Comments || Top||

#13  I'm sure I'll be sorry I asked, but what is a man's "state of ceremonial impurity"?
Posted by: exJAG || 01/20/2007 11:45 Comments || Top||

#14  Ceremonial impurity:
The state of ceremonial impurity, or janabah, occurs as a result of ejaculation, whether involuntary, as in the case of a wet dream, or deliberate, or as a result of sexual intercourse. To remove it, one has to have a full bath, washing his head and every part of his body with water. So, a shower, without soap is sufficient. It is not possible to offer prayers while a person is in a state of ceremonial impurity. Therefore, it is strongly recommended to remove that state by taking a shower or a bath immediately. If that is delayed, then one simply does not do well, but there is nothing sinful in it, unless it causes him to miss an obligatory prayer.

If one happens to get into this state two or three times a day, it may not be easy for him to have so many showers. Therefore, he should make sure that removing that state is easy before one gets into it.

If it happens two or three times, without taking a shower in between then one shower would remove it all. Suppose a person goes to sleep after he had prayed Fajr, and on waking up he discovers that he has had a wet dream. He realizes that he must leave home immediately because he is late for work. That is appropriate, if he knows that he will come back before Asr time and he will be able to have his shower and pray Dhuhr on arrival. Similarly, if one has more than one intercourse with his wife during the night, he can have one shower for all. He is recommended, however, to have an ablution, or wudhu', in between.

Involuntary discharge of urine is an illness which can be treated. For the purposes of prayer, however, one should make sure that the urine does not fall on his clothes or his body. [A urinal discharge does not cause ceremonial impurity and needs washing of the affected areas of the body only.] What he should do is to tie a polyethylene bag with a piece of cotton or tissue paper in it. When he wants to have ablution and pray, he replaces it with a clean one and has his ablution. He needs to have a fresh ablution only for every prayer, repeating the same method for cleanliness.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 01/20/2007 11:52 Comments || Top||

#15  Well, it's noon so I'm covered...
Posted by: tu3031 || 01/20/2007 11:57 Comments || Top||

#16  Thanks, Thinemp, I figured it had something to do with jiz. Freud would've had a field day analyzing Muslims' multifarious sexual fixations. And you'd think feminists would also find plenty of phallic boogeymen to deconstruct.
Posted by: exJAG || 01/20/2007 13:07 Comments || Top||

#17  The lack of feminist response to this socio-religious Islamic buffoonery is something that puzzles me. Imagine the uproar if Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson had even hinted at such things.
Posted by: SteveS || 01/20/2007 14:53 Comments || Top||

#18  It is the overarching Political Correctness, anti-Western "All cultures are equal and deserving of the same respect", and plain old Bush Derangement Syndrome that prevents the "feminists" from saying anything. Remember that during Clinton's reign, the feminists were making excuses for his sexual escapades with a subordinate - but the moment a Repub gets caught fooling around with a staff member, it is "Sexual Harassment", and off with his head.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 01/20/2007 16:05 Comments || Top||

#19  Wha? ... Wait.... Muslim woman can read? Isn't that a stoning offense?
Posted by: DarthVader || 01/20/2007 16:40 Comments || Top||

#20  Thinemp Whimble,
If I remember correctly, Bedouin washing with water in quite rare, and they usually wash by rubbing their skin with sand.
Do they have to wait till they reach an oasis before they can pray?

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al || 01/20/2007 17:19 Comments || Top||

#21  What is it with a woman's period and men?

Not just with moslem men, but pretty much all of them.

Here's a clue, guys: Without a woman's period, you wouldn't even exist. Deal with it; we have to.

I presume the moslems believe Allen made everyone and everything - which would have to include menses. So either there's nothing wrong with it, or Allen screwed up.

Or probably Arab men are just f*cked up about women, sex, the koran, sunrise, sunset, air, water, and just about everything else.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 01/20/2007 19:48 Comments || Top||

#22  So it seems.
Posted by: KBK || 01/20/2007 19:51 Comments || Top||

#23  Word, Barbara. Menstruation this, unclean that. I notice men never ask if it's okay to pray while wearing clothing with skidmarks.

Yes, guys, we do your laundry, we know about that. :)
Posted by: exJAG || 01/20/2007 20:16 Comments || Top||

#24  Wait a minute exjag, I use the Qur'an so I won't get skidmarks! I keep a spare copy in the outhouse, ya never want to run out of tp.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 01/20/2007 23:58 Comments || Top||


Woman Takes Daddy’s Car for 250-km Joyride
HAIL, 20 January 2007 — Shoppers at a crowded shopping center in this north-central Saudi city caught a rare glimpse of a woman driving a car (rare, that is, if they’ve never traveled outside of the Kingdom), the daily Al-Watan reported yesterday. The 25-year-old was arrested in the city, but only after having driven 250 kilometers of highway from her farm to the south. Bystanders told the newspaper that they were amazed that the rebellious woman had made it that far. The brother of the woman said she had stolen her father’s car when he wasn’t looking. He said she had psychological issues. Perhaps she simply needed some drive time to herself.
Posted by: Glomorong Thavick1009 || 01/20/2007 08:28 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He said she had psychological issues.

that's still no excuse. honor killing in 5...4.....
Posted by: PlanetDan || 01/20/2007 9:42 Comments || Top||

#2  This is totally unislamic. Let all who witnessed this aberration go blind immediately. Somebody needs a fatwa applied for not controlling this female.
Posted by: SpecOp35 || 01/20/2007 12:42 Comments || Top||

#3  And she'll have fun, fun, fun
till the Imams chop her hands away...
Posted by: Penguin || 01/20/2007 13:54 Comments || Top||

#4  Her psychological issues may relate to her overactive bullsh_t detector. It is amazing that the fathers put up with this and don't get tired of leaving the office to drive their children to after school activities. There are no soccer moms there, only dads who miss work to take children to the doctor, music lessons, and soccer practice.
Posted by: whatadeal || 01/20/2007 22:06 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Bleak Chávez claims Castro is 'battling for his life'
Pic of Chavez poster in Hezbollahland copyright Michael Totten, who is doing some damn fine reporting from Lebanon.
Do you get the feeling we're being prepared for something?
The Venezuelan president, Hugo Chávez, yesterday offered the bleakest medical update yet on Fidel Castro, saying he was "battling for his life". The pessimistic view came days after Mr Chávez, who is one of Castro's closest allies, and who speaks with him regularly, had said his recovery was slow and not without risks.

Mr Chávez, attending a summit of Latin American leaders in Brazil, said he had spoken to the Cuban leader in the past few days. He compared his condition to the difficult days in the run-up to the 1959 revolution when he was a guerrilla leader in Cuba's Sierra Maestra. "Fidel is in the Sierra Maestra again, battling for his life," said Mr Chávez.
Posted by: Steve White || 01/20/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
Posted by: DMFD || 01/20/2007 0:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Hope he loses.
Posted by: Mike || 01/20/2007 8:52 Comments || Top||

#3  This is like Barzini waiting for Don Corleone to die...
Posted by: tu3031 || 01/20/2007 9:35 Comments || Top||

#4  Well, they put the toe tag on him already, so it is looking grim. Someone is going to inherit a practically new skateboard if ol' Foodel doesn't perk up.
Posted by: SpecOp35 || 01/20/2007 12:44 Comments || Top||

#5  If he's hallucinating about old battles....get ready for the biggest party Miami's ever gonna see.
Posted by: Swamp Blondie || 01/20/2007 14:22 Comments || Top||


Down Under
Fiji coup leader makes threats, promises
Fiji coup leader Commodore Voreqe (Frank) Bainimarama – who yesterday threatened to retaliate against New Zealanders for sanctions against his administration – has separately promised his Government will respect human rights. He also claimed the military-backed Government was making serious efforts to deal with complaints that had been lodged against "alleged military interrogation tactics".

Soldiers have been beating and humiliating some critics of the coup who have been taken military headquarters for interrogation, and one man is reported to have died after being picked up by the military in unexplained circumstances.

At Christmas, six pro-democracy activists complained of being beaten at the barracks, with a group of men and women forced to run around the barracks parade ground in their underwear. Yesterday Cdre Bainimarama said that questioning people at the military camp had always been the last resort. "People who were taken in for questioning were people who repeatedly defied warnings," he said in a statement. "There was a need to take people in for questioning to suppress any disruptive intentions by individuals and groups so as to contain the peaceful transition required in the military's clean-up campaign".
Posted by: Fred || 01/20/2007 10:20 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Politix
CNN's Dobbs Working for Imprisoned Border Patrolmen
Lou Dobbs is making some noise on behalf of the recently sentenced border patrolmen.
Bits from transcript of recent broadcast:


DOBBS: New developments tonight in the case of the two imprisoned former U.S. Border Patrol agents, Jose Compean and Ignacio Ramos. And new indications that the border fence project is losing support both in Washington and in some towns near the border with Mexico.

Casey Wian tonight reports that President Bush says he'll take a hard look at the Ramos and Compean case -- a major development.

CASEY WIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Lou, family members of imprisoned former Border Patrol agent Ignacio Ramos say they've been in telephone contact with the White House, pleading for a presidential pardon.

WIAN (voice-over): For the first time since former Texas Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean were convicted of shooting and wounding an illegal alien Mexican drug smuggler, their supporters are hopeful President Bush will intervene in a case many lawmakers of the president's own party say is an outrageous miscarriage of justice.

MARY STILLINGER, IGNACIO RAMOS' ATTORNEY: We were very excited to hear that the president will be looking into this case. I know he probably doesn't know the facts of the case right now. In our opinion, there's been a lot of misinformation issued by the U.S. Attorney's Office about this case, and we're looking forward to correcting it.

WIAN: The president spoke about the case for the first time this week with CNN El Paso affiliate KFOX. While federal prosecutors have sought to portray the agents as rogue law enforcement officers, the president engaged in no such rhetoric.

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The Border Patrol or law enforcement have no stronger supporter than me. There are standards that need to be met in law enforcement, and according to a jury of their peers, these officers violated some standards.

I -- on this case, people need to take a hard look at the facts, at the evidence that the jury looked at, as well as a judge. And I'll -- that's -- I will do the same thing.

WIAN: While he refused to rule out a pardon, the president did attempt to deflect the issue.

BUSH: Now, there's a process for pardons. I mean, it's -- and it's got to work its way through a system here in government. But I just want people to take a sober look at the reality.

WIAN: The reality is there's no requirement a pardon must go through that lengthy process.

JEFFREY TOOBIN, CNN SR. LEGAL ANALYST: President Bush is well within his rights if he wanted to pardon them tomorrow.

WIAN: Meanwhile, Ramos and Compean remain in protective custody. The U.S. Marshal Service says that's because they are former law enforcement officers.


Turning to our poll question tonight, the question is: Do you believe that Congress should launch an investigation of the prosecution of the two U.S. Border Patrol agents and the Justice Department's decision to give immunity to an illegal alien drug smuggler as a basis for that prosecution? Yes or no?

Cast your vote at LouDobbs.com. We'll have the results upcoming.

When I checked, the poll was running 97% 'yes'; that might get some politicians' attention.
Posted by: Glenmore || 01/20/2007 18:47 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I doubt it.

These guys shot at the dope runner 14 times. They walked around the area after he hightailed and picked up all the shell casings. Then they didn't report the shooting incident. There's lots of moving parts here and I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Bush waits for things to slow down and all the facts to emerge before he takes action. This is not necessarily the no-brainer it is being made to appear. Let's wait for all the facts.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 01/20/2007 20:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Having done internal investigations on BPAs, these fellows (and suprs) would have had some time off, but no way would I have given any credence to the doper, much less talk an AUSA into giving him immunity. These two BPAs are nothing more than a political statement by someone who is or who is going into politics.
Posted by: Xenophon || 01/20/2007 20:51 Comments || Top||

#3  Had they broken into the wrong address on a drug raid and killed the owners, they would already be back at work.
Posted by: Jackal || 01/20/2007 22:48 Comments || Top||


Mrs. Clinton Launches 2008 Presidential Bid
New York Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton says on her Web site that she is entering the 2008 presidential race.
The excitement was so thick you could smell it. At least I think that was excitement...
Clinton's announcement, coming days after Sen. Barack Obama shook up the 2008 race with his bid to become the first black to occupy the White House, establishes the most diverse political field. Clinton is considered the front-runner, with Obama and 2004 vice presidential nominee John Edwards top contenders. New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who would be the first Hispanic, intends to announce his plans on Sunday.

With millions in the bank, a vast network of supporters and top status in nearly every poll of Democratic contenders, Clinton has launched the most viable effort by a female candidate to capture the White House. She is the first presidential spouse to pursue the office; her husband, Bill, served two terms in the White House from 1993-2001.
Posted by: Fred || 01/20/2007 10:02 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  bwahahaha!
got you by three minutes!
Posted by: Frank G || 01/20/2007 10:08 Comments || Top||

#2  And the extreme left of her party will rip her apart for Iraq. I love it when they eat their own.
Posted by: DarthVader || 01/20/2007 10:19 Comments || Top||

#3 
And the extreme left of her party will rip her apart for Iraq.
And to appease them, she'll lurch left on everything else. Ahh, the Democratic party.
Posted by: JSU || 01/20/2007 11:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Here she comes, like a runaway train. She and her minions are going to smear Osama Obama like shit hitting a fan. The problem is that she will overpower any likely Republicans out there. If she gets nomination, she's going to have a very good chance of going all the way.
Posted by: SpecOp35 || 01/20/2007 12:48 Comments || Top||

#5  With the Repubs in-fighting so badly over immigration a third party is likely similar to the Buchannanites and Perotistas. With Tom Tancredo announcing his candidacy will he be the one to splitt and form a isolationist third party? If so, than Hillary like Bill before her will win a plurality of the vote. Welcome to the most angry and inflexible President this country has ever seen.
Posted by: TomAnon || 01/20/2007 13:21 Comments || Top||

#6  Hildabeast will smear Obama with his muzzie upbringing.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 01/20/2007 15:19 Comments || Top||

#7  As a New York voter and taxpayer, my primary objection is that the next eighteen months will be taken up with campaigning and not representing the people of New York. Kerry missed over 30% of the votes in the Senate when he ran. Jim Davis missed over 20% of the votes in the House to run for Governor of Florida last year.

It's our money and they work for us. Isn't it time we asked for a fair day's work for a fair day's pay?
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 01/20/2007 16:36 Comments || Top||

#8  Love Me, I'm a Liberal
By Phil Ochs

E A E A
I cried when they shot Medgar Evers
E C#m
Tears ran down my spine
E A E
I cried when they shot Mr. Kennedy
F#7 B7
As though I'd lost a father of mine
E A E
But Malcolm X got what was coming
G#m A
He got what he asked for this time
E C#m A B7 E
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I go to civil rights rallies
And I put down the old D.A.R.
I love Harry and Sidney and Sammy
I hope every colored boy becomes a star
But don't talk about revolution
That's going a little bit too far
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I cheered when Humphrey was chosen
My faith in the system restored
I'm glad the commies were thrown out
Of the A.F.L. C.I.O. board
I love Puerto Ricans and Negros
As long as they don't move next door
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

The people of old Mississippi
Should all hang their heads in shame
I can't understand how their minds work
What's the matter don't they watch Les Crane?
But if you ask me to bus my children
I hope the cops take down your name
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I read New Republic and Nation
I've learned to take every view
You know, I've memorized Lerner and Golden
I feel like I'm almost a Jew
But when it comes to times like korea
There's no one more red, white and blue
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I vote for the democtratic party
They want the U.N. to be strong
I go to all the Pete Seeger concerts
He sure gets me singing those songs
I'll send all the money you ask for
But don't ask me to come on along
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

Once I was young and impulsive
I wore every conceivable pin
Even went to the socialist meetings
Learned all the old union hymns
But I've grown older and wiser
And that's why I'm turning you in
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal


Posted by: bruce || 01/20/2007 18:30 Comments || Top||


Hildabeast launches 2008 POTUS bid
Panic rush after watching Obama-fever catching fire
Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton embarked on a widely anticipated campaign for the White House on Saturday, a former first lady intent on becoming the first female president. "I'm in and I'm in to win," she said on her Web site.

Clinton's announcement, days after Sen. Barack Obama shook up the contest race with his bid to become the first black president, establishes the most diverse political field ever.

Clinton is considered the front-runner, with Obama and 2004 vice presidential nominee John Edwards top contenders. New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who would be the first Hispanic president, intends to announce his plans on Sunday.

"You know after six years of George Bush, it is time to renew the promise of America," Clinton says in a videotaped message in which she invites voters to begin a dialogue with her on the major issues - health care, Social Security and Medicare, and the war in Iraq.

"I'm not just starting a campaign, though, I'm beginning a conversation with you, with America," she said. "Let's talk. Let's chat. The conversation in Washington has been just a little one-sided lately, don't you think?"
"I'll talk, you listen. You talk, I'll pretend to listen"
Posted by: Frank G || 01/20/2007 09:59 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  that last line was mine, supposed to be highlighted. She's not stupid enough to actually say it....
Posted by: Frank G || 01/20/2007 10:13 Comments || Top||

#2  She's not stupid enough to actually say it.... No that would be Nanny Pelosi.
Posted by: GK || 01/20/2007 10:22 Comments || Top||

#3  I wonder if the idiots in New York state will accept that she's a lying c*nt, now?
Posted by: Chuck Darwin || 01/20/2007 10:49 Comments || Top||

#4  Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/20/2007 11:27 Comments || Top||

#5  thx mods!
Posted by: Frank G || 01/20/2007 12:37 Comments || Top||

#6  Clinton's announcement, days after Sen. Barack Obama shook up the contest race with his bid to become the first black president, establishes the most diverse political field ever.

I thought her hubby was the "first black President." I'ma sooo confused.
Posted by: BA || 01/20/2007 19:52 Comments || Top||

#7  You mean that Laughing Girl, I mean Cuddles, is running?
Posted by: whatadeal || 01/20/2007 22:22 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
U.S. Navy Decoms USS Trenton, Transfers to Indian Navy
NORFOLK, Va. (NNS) -- The amphibious transport dock ship USS Trenton (LPD 14), was decommissioned Jan. 17 in a ceremony at Naval Station Norfolk. Immediately following the decommissioning, Trenton was recommissioned and transferred to the Indian Navy, bearing the name INS Jalashwa. The event marks the first time a U.S. Navy vessel has been transferred to the Indian navy. In recent months, the crew of Trenton has been working alongside Indian sailors, training them to operate the ship efficiently and safely.

“Trenton will continue to serve all the free nations of the world, just as she served the United States, as we expand ‘the 1,000-ship navy,’” said Rear Adm. Garry Hall, Commander, Amphibious Group 2.

The commanding officer of Jalashwa, Indian Navy Capt. B.S. Ahluwalia, expressed his gratitude to the crew of Trenton, and praised their professionalism. “Today’s transfer is a significant event in the growing relationship between our two countries and our two navies,” said Ahluwalia.

Commissioned in March 1971, Trenton took part in numerous humanitarian operations, including the evacuations of American civilians from Liberia in 1996 and from Lebanon in 2006. In addition, in 1991, Trenton was responsible for evacuating the U.S. and Soviet ambassadors and 193 foreign nationals from Somalia. During Trenton’s final deployment, the ship took part in maritime security operations off the Somali coast of eastern Africa.

Trenton’s commanding officer, Cmdr. Samuel Norton, spoke proudly and fondly of his crew and time aboard the ship, saying that without such an outstanding crew, Trenton would not have been the same. “It’s people that have made Trenton what she is today, and its people that will keep the memory of Trenton alive,” Norton said.

Trenton employed a crew of approximately 415 Sailors and could embark nearly 1,000 Marines.

The ship was a member of the Austin-class amphibious transport dock ship. The ship is 570 feet in length and displaces approximately 17,000 tons when fully loaded. The Austin-class currently is being replaced by the newer, more-modern San Antonio-class LPD.
More from Wiki: The Indian Navy has renamed the USS Trenton as the INS Jalashva (river horse, or hippopotamus) and plans to keep it at Norfolk Naval Base for refitting until May 2007. Six H-3 Sea King maritime utility transport helicopters will be operated from the ship. The ship likely to be based at Visakhapatnam under the Eastern Naval Command.
Posted by: john || 01/20/2007 06:53 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  India is earning its place as a major world power with the three ingredients: a strong economy, a strong military, and a willingness to project that military, not just for their own ends, but for international goals as well.

The last goal is not as meeching as it sounds. By force projecting when you don't have to, or when it is not in your vital interest to do so, you both create useful alliances and open the door to trade.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/20/2007 11:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Though the Trenton is old, and has had a fair number of problems, the IN was eager to get their hands on her.
They want to study the design and actually learn how to operate a LPD for a few years before building their own.
Posted by: john || 01/20/2007 11:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Considering all the problems that the Indians have had with aircraft production, it seems more probable that over the next 10-15 years, the US will be decommissioning this class of ship and it will be immediately recommissioned into the Indian Navy. The Austin and follow-on classes are very complicated ships to build, and if you do it wrong, you get a ship like the De Gaulle - where the propeller keeps falling off.
Besides which, the Indians have several advantages with the buy it used approach - for the last year of US operations, the Indians can have a secondary crew assigned, learning the ship and its problems; immediately after the ship is transfered, they can have SLEP done to it to correct all known issues; the ships in question have already had their shakedown cruises and had all the issues discovered then fixed; and no nasty surprises like failed welds or non-functional electronics, which Indian tank and aircraft production have been prone to.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 01/20/2007 15:58 Comments || Top||

#4  The Indians are of the firm belief that the term "Indian Ocean" means what it says.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 01/20/2007 17:04 Comments || Top||

#5  LOL Chuck.....makes sense. They can be an ally, especially against our "ally" Pakland
Posted by: Frank G || 01/20/2007 17:25 Comments || Top||

#6  Buying used ships makes sense. They probably depreciate a thousand bucks or so the moment they slide off the ways.
Posted by: SteveS || 01/20/2007 17:44 Comments || Top||

#7  Not any more. Seen the replacement cost for a CVN lately?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 01/20/2007 17:59 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Jordan's king says he seeks 'peaceful' nuclear programme
Jordan’s King Abdullah II told an Israeli newspaper Friday that his country wants its own nuclear program. In an interview with the daily Haaretz, Abdullah said his desert kingdom, which borders Israel and has a peace agreement with it, wanted nuclear power “for peaceful purposes” and was already discussing its plans with western countries.
Posted by: Fred || 01/20/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  WORLDNEWS + INDIA say otherwise > i.e. JORDAN's KING WANTS NUKE WEAPONS.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 01/20/2007 0:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Pretty soon the ME will have more nuclear nations than Europe.
Posted by: Unart Angereling7497 || 01/20/2007 0:50 Comments || Top||

#3  If this keeps up in the ME, there will be a lot fewer people AND nations there.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 01/20/2007 2:25 Comments || Top||

#4  But, the background radiation level will be MUCH higher, so it will be a wash.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 01/20/2007 2:32 Comments || Top||

#5  One of the bigger mistakes in Israel's history is not giving Paleos a hand in 1970.
Posted by: gromgoru || 01/20/2007 7:07 Comments || Top||

#6  A nuclear amitions in the Middle East coming to fruition. Whoda thunk the biggest nightmare of the western world would come to pass in my lifetime?
The world is one step closer to ridding itself of Arabs & Persians.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 01/20/2007 8:16 Comments || Top||

#7  So who is gonna finance Jordah's latest dream machine? They don't exactly bowl over the world with their booming economy. IIRC, checked-out King Hussein used to get free gas from Sammy.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 01/20/2007 15:23 Comments || Top||

#8  Jordan is our ally so we probably give them severeal hundred million a year and I'm sure China would like to get some of that while getting in bed with one of our allies.
Posted by: Mike N. || 01/20/2007 18:41 Comments || Top||



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