THE US commander of the Afghan war has warned that troops' lives will be endangered if a Florida evangelical church goes ahead with a planned burning of the Koran on Saturday's 9/11 anniversary.
General David Petraeus said the planned torching of Islam's holy book would be a propaganda coup for the Taliban in Afghanistan and stoke anti-US sentiment across the Muslim world.
Afghanistan, where Petraeus leads a 150,000-strong US-led NATO force against an extremist Taliban-led insurgency, is a deeply devout Islamic country.
Actions seen by Afghans as against their religion or even allegations that Western troops have insulted the Koran have led to deadly violence in the past.
In January seven tribesmen were killed by gunfire from Afghan security forces trying to disperse angry crowds during a demonstration sparked by allegations that US troops had torched the Muslim holy book.
An investigation by NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and Afghan authorities found that no Koran was desecrated following a military operation by the alliance force in the southern province of Helmand.
The Dove World Outreach Center at Gainesville, Florida, says it will burn copies of the Koran on this weekend's ninth anniversary of the September 11 attacks in protest at what it calls "the evil of Islam".
In an interview with the Wall Street Journal, Petraeus said of the plan: "It could endanger troops and it could endanger the overall effort.
"It is precisely the kind of action the Taliban uses and could cause significant problems. Not just here but everywhere in the world we are engaged with the Islamic community."
On Monday about 200 men gathered near a mosque in the capital Kabul to protest the planned torching, shouting "death to America" and "long live Islam" for about an hour after their midday prayer, witnesses said.
The planned protest by the 50-member Florida congregation - whose Facebook page bears the motto "Islam Is Of The Devil" - has already triggered outrage in Indonesia, the world's largest Muslim-majority country.
In late August about 100 Indonesian Islamists demonstrated outside the US embassy in Jakarta and threatened "jihad" or holy war if the US Christian group went through with the event.
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They do have a legal right to do it, but doing so would be wrong, offensive, and insensitive. And stupid. It accomplishes nothing and it does potentially increase risk to our people in A'stan and elsewhere in the Muslim world. Why push even one more Muslim from the 'radical' camp to the 'rabid radical' camp?
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Phuck it, burn em. It is about time the entirety of Islam knows we're not as weak willed as they like to think we are. Confrontation and killing are inevitable, A-stan and the entire war on terror is just a new chapter in a VERY OLD war.
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Book burning has unpleasant historical connotations.
However I don't think this Afghan crowd would appreciate the prospect of a Muslim Gay Bar or a Mohammed cartoon exhibition close the the Ground Zero Mosque either, so that would endanger western troops as well.
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It seems to me these folks have decided they're in a war, not with "extremists" but with Islam, itself. So they see themselves as showing distain for an enemy, not engaging in thought "hate" crimes. Given that the "extremists" are correct in their reading of the Koran, I'd say no harm, no foul.
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Doesn't really matter if they burn the 'holy' books or not. The Muzzies will be told it happened (just as the Danish imams traveled to the ME with fake and more inflammatory cartoons than were ever published by the newspaper).
Then, they'll wail, gnash their teeth, murder, rape and blow shit up. If a few of their own get killed, so what? Less we'll have to get rid of later.
The chairman of the Islamic group Hizbut Tahrir Indonesia that planned the protests, Rokhmat Labib, says the plan to burn the Islamic holy book is a provocation.He says if the event happens Muslims will certainly fight back, and he cannot predict what form the retaliation will take
And the money-quote: Labib sees it differently. He says Muslims must not stay silent when their faith is threatened.
If your faith and your God is threatened by a book burning and a few cartoons - then your faith and your 'god' are pretty pathetic.
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Half the Muslims probably think the Korans were burned already. The damage to our troops has already happened. Might as well go forward and show the west won't be pushed constantly without pushing back.
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Ofcourse not, Islam is not based on freedom and rights like Christendom and western democracies. Islam is based on forced child marriages, pedophilia, sharia law, sodomy, rape, and violent conversion or tortuous killing of infidels. This religion has not improved humanity, and burning Korans or not, wouldn't change its violent and malevolent methods over time. It cannot nor should not be appeased, but instead, confronted because there is no moderate Islam. It is a religion based on evil and sickness.
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
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Overwhelming massive total, (sorry I repeate myself) response would be the correct answer to danger to our troopers. Have we forgoten what wins conflicts?
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I just read an article on WaPo by an 'American' Muzzie who says the Koran burning is not constitutional. The Constitution forbids it, says he.
He also said he would rather burn in the fire himself than watch a Koran burn.
Need any further proof that Islam and Western values cannot coexist on the same planet?
It's not about 'how to win', it's about will. To include dealing with your own demons after you've seen your handiwork, if you have a soul. Read about Soros and understand what its like not to have one.
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I'm scheduled to deploy there in the spring...fuck'em, if that pastor in Fla wants to burn the damn thing, I could care less either way and so could most of my Marines. CF already had the money quote about a pathetic god and a pathetic religion. The majority of Afghanis are illiterate anyways, like they even know what their own horse-shit holy text says. Anytime there's a camera they'll do their little monkey rage dance. Pathetic jerk water country w/douche bag strong men. So sick of islam and have been since 12 Sep 2001.
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Hebrew National dogs, BH6. I'm Catholic, but totally sold on the HN dogs at Costco
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I don't agree at all. I understand the temptation to provoke these nutbags and defy the ridiculous demands they make on behalf of their bull%$# religion. But you should never take sides with book burners. Never. No matter what garbage book it is.
Mohammed cartoons - I'm all for it. Defying bogus demands for "tolerance" and "islamophobia" - we need more of it, unapologetic refusal to bend to or accomodate their cr&p. No GZM. No crecent-shaped memorials. And on and on.
BUT, No Book Burning! I refuse to take sides with book burners.
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Don't burn it, put it in a jar of urine and call it art. Cover another copy with manure and do the same.
What? It was art when done to Christian symbols. Don't you support art?
Oh, yeah - also put a picture of Mo-ham-head on the ground and invite people to walk on it to write their thoughts in a book. That's art, too, just like it was when the American flag was similarly used.
ARE YOU LISTENING, Dove World Outreach Center?
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[Tolo News] The Afghan first vice-president, Marshal Mohammad Qasim Famim Monday rejected news published earlier about his death by some websites "No, I am not dead. I refuse to lie down."
Speaking from Germany, Qasim Fahim told Tolonews on the phone that he is completely well and will be back to Kabul next week. "How could I be in Germany if I'm dead? Answer me that! Hah!"
"I am completely healthy. I request the Afghan people not to trust news published by irresponsible websites," said Mr Fahim.
During the phone conversation, Qasim Fahim also expressed codolence to the Afghan people on the occasion of the 'Week of the Martyr'.
Yesterday, some Afghan websites had published reports claiming that Marshal Qasim Fahim had passed away in a hospital in France.
Marshal Fahim has recently been under medical treatment in Germany.
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"Rumors of my demise seem to have been greatly exaggerated."
-- Mark Twain
Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) is calling for jihad to forcibly reclaim the Spanish enclaves of Ceuta and Melilla, restore them to Morocco and use them to stage attacks on Spain.
In a statement signed by "Abou Walid Almaghrebi Alansari" and published August 27th on several Islamist and nationalist web forums, AQIM said the coastal cities should be "recovered by force" from the control of Spain, and turned into an "area of attrition" against the "occupying crusade enemy" and "stealer of Andalusia".
Al-Qaeda is hoping to take advantage of last month's Spain-Morocco border tensions for propaganda purposes, argued Moroccan researcher Mohamed Darif. The message appeared within days of a demonstration by Moroccans in Ceuta.
"Al-Qaeda is always trying to make use of current events and issues in order to replenish its image by presenting itself as the defender of Islam and Muslims, rather than as a terrorist organisation," Darif said.
The message, however, does not pose any real threat against Morocco or Spain, since al-Qaeda has "recently been dealt strong blows in Algeria and seen a drop of its activities in the Sahel and Sahara region," he said.
As to the call to make Ceuta and Melilla an "area of attrition" against Spain, Darif believes that realising this goal is unlikely, given that Spanish security and military presence in the two cities is strong. In addition, Morocco would never accept the presence of al-Qaeda-affiliated elements in territory adjacent to Ceuta and Melilla.
Morocco has no war intentions against Spain, Darif said. Rather, Morocco's policy towards the two Spanish cities depends on "a peaceful approach that bets on the social and economic dimension through ambitious developmental plans for the areas surrounding the two cities", he explained.
Abdellah Rami, a member of the Moroccan Centre for Social Studies, agrees that the AQIM message is nothing more than incitement and propaganda.
"Contrary to what was published by some Spanish newspapers, which exaggerated the importance of the message, the matter is not related to a statement issued by al-Qaeda, an al-Qaeda-approved media institution, or by any of the senior leaders of the organisation," he said.
"It's just an article written by an anonymous person in one of the forums that are close to al-Qaeda. Therefore, it's difficult to give any credibility to this message because it is difficult to determine its real source."
The web posting is most likely from an entity that wants to affect Spanish-Moroccan relations, "which are going through a special stage in the wake of recent tensions on the borders of the two countries", Rami said.
Like Darif, Rami noted the reduction in AQIM's strength after it was forced to pull back southwards toward the Sahel region following the tightening of security.
"AQIM is today living in a state of weakness," he said. "Its activities are now largely focussed on the kidnapping of foreigners in northern Mali and Mauritania as a way to get money."
The internet message, he told Magharebia, is merely "part of the insidious media activity of the terrorist organisation, which covers an unlimited scope of issues".
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You suppose Spain will eventually wake up and learn to defend itself? I hope Frances wakes up too, and Sweden.
[Al Arabiya] Former British prime minister Tony Blair warned Sunday that the roots of radical Islam are far deeper than we think and said al-Qaeda would have killed 300,000 on Sept. 11, 2001 if they could.
"This is actually more like the phenomenon of revolutionary communism," Blair said in an interview with ABC News, commenting on the reach of Islamic extremism.
"It's the religious or cultural equivalent of it, and its roots are deep, its tentacles are long, and its narrative about Islam stretches far further than we think into even parts of mainstream opinion who abhor the extremism, but sort of buy some of the rhetoric that goes with it," he added.
Blair said he didn't understand fully the phenomenon at the time of 9/11, when al-Qaeda operatives hijacked planes and crashed two of them into the World Trade Center in New York, killing about 3,000 people.
"If these people could have killed 30,000 or 300,000, they would have," Blair warned.
The former British prime minister's remarks came just a week before the ninth anniversary of the attacks, which he said changed his outlook and led to perhaps the most controversial decision of his tenure -- his support for the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.
Blair said he felt "an enormous responsibility" for the lives lost in the conflict, which was fiercely opposed by many in Britain.
But he said sanctions aimed at crippling Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein were "crumbling" and there were real fears that his regime could help terrorists acquire weapons of mass destruction.
"My view was in the circumstances after 9/11, you have to send such a strong signal out on this issue," he said.
The former leader took a similarly hard line on Iran, which many in the international community fear is seeking nuclear weapons under the guise of a civilian nuclear energy program.
"I would tell them they can't have it, and if necessary, they will be confronted with stronger sanctions and diplomacy. But if that fails, I'm not taking any option off the table," he said.
Blair said he did not favor war with Iran but added: "I'm saying I think you cannot exclude it because the primary objective has got to be to prevent them from getting a nuclear weapon."
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RELATED > NEWSMAX > BLAIR describes ISLAMIC EXTREMISM as akin to the phenomenon [historic rise] of REVOLUTIONARY COMMUNISM.
As I've said or inferred times before on the Net, 1990's - PRESENT > RADICAL ISLAMISM = FAITH, GOD-BASED/CENTRIC SOCIALISTS + GOVTISTS;
+ 9-11 + WOT = WAR FOR OWG-NWO/GLOBAL GOVTISM includ COMMIE WORLD ORDER [CWO] + SOCIALIST-GOVTIST WORLD ORDER [SWO,GWO].
WAR FOR CONTROL OF THE WORLD........
Indirectly, Blair's comments also gives credence to the ISLAMIST/JIHADIST-LED LOCAL, REGIONAL INSURGENCIES as actually being a ISLAMIST-LED MUSLIM WORLD/GLOBAL CONQUEST, as in history the Commies tried to INTERNATIONALLY = GLOBALLY impose their brand of linear Socialism via both National Politics + by Violent or Military Force agz established Govts.
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"... its roots are deep, its tentacles are long, and its narrative about Islam stretches far further than we think into even parts of mainstream opinion who abhor the extremism, but sort of buy some of the rhetoric that goes with it," he added.
Its years and years after most of us have gotten it but years and years ahead of Obama and the left.
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and its narrative about Islam stretches far further than we think into even parts of mainstream opinion who abhor the extremism, but sort of buy some of the rhetoric that goes with it.
Its questionable whether the Globalists buy into the extremist rhetoric. But what is clear is theyre willing to gamble with the Islamic threat if they see a response that is counter to their world order. The Bush/Blair pivot away from treating Jihadist Terrorism as a basic criminal function sent shock waves through the transnational elite. This crowd isnt anti-war as much as their progressive think tanks and NGOs would like you to think. That is, as long as the conflicts and methods of redress are of their choosing. However, the Bush doctrine was grounded in state sovereignty, which is antithetical to their vision of Global Governance. And therefore it continues to be countered with derision and active deceit.
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#6 Moderate muslims. "I can't hear you!" Hmmmmm.
I am beginning to think moderate Muslims are those that agree with terrorism and all the horrid things the Quran teaches, they just don't actively participate in terror. Kind of like Nazi's in Germany back in the 30's and 40's that didn't actively participate in genocide, but didn't stand against it either. It was okay with them.
[Iran Press] Spain has rejected as totally inadequate the declaration of a ceasefire by Basque separatists ETA, saying the group should abandon violence forever.
"ETA has to renounce violence completely forever," said Spain's Interior Minister Alfredo Perez Rubalcaba on Monday, AFP reported.
"We are not going to change a dot or a comma in our anti-terrorist policy. What we want is for ETA to renounce violence. So long as it does not break with violence it will not be admitted into institutions."
ETA's victims and political parties have also urged the group to surrender its arms and disband.
ETA, which is blamed for hundreds of deaths in its long fight for independence, vowed in a video statement published on Sunday "not to carry out armed actions" anymore.
There is skepticism in Spain about the proposed ceasefire.
The government maintains that ETA had no other way but to declare a ceasefire. It argues that dozens of ETA members, including some leaders, have been detained while the group has lost a main logistical base in Portugal, leading to its current weakening position.
"ETA is stopping because it can't go on any more," he said.
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Ahhh! SOMEBODY learned from the Sri Lankans and the Tamils!
[Pak Daily Times] President Nicolas Sarkozy vowed on Monday to press ahead with plans to strip French citizenship from immigrants who attack police, but ruled out that punishment for those who practice polygamy or promote female circumcision. Sarkozy first proposed reversing the naturalisation of immigrants convicted of endangering the lives of police in July in response to three days of urban riots in the southern city of Grenoble after police rubbed out a suspected armed robber.
But the president's proposals, and a separate call by his Interior Minister Brice Hortefeux to strip the nationality of polygamists and female circumcision advocates, have been fiercely criticised by the opposition and some legal experts. In a statement issued after Sarkozy met with ministers responsible for security, justice and immigration, his office said the president had underlined his determination to implement the steps he announced in July "as soon as possible".
The office specified that the punishment would apply to immigrants who had gained French nationality in the last 10 years and who "endanger the life of a person in charge of public security, in particular the police and gendarmes."
Sarkozy's Immigration Minister Eric Besson had expressed doubts about putting his cabinet colleague Hortefeux's proposals into law and those plans have been dropped. Still, legal experts say the Constitutional Council could decide to throw out a government bill that critics say runs counter to the Article 1 principle that all French citizens are equal before the law, regardless of race, creed or origin.
"It seems to me to pose real problems," Gerard Larcher, president of the Senate, the upper house of parliament, and a member of Sarkozy's UMP party, told the newspaper Le Monde. "The real question is: would it really improve French people's security?"
The constitutional watchdog did uphold an exception in the 1990s allowing the removal of French citizenship for immigrants convicted of acts of terrorism.
Left-wing and intellectual critics accuse Sarkozy of playing to racist sentiment by lumping violent crime and immigration together, and creating two classes of citizenship.
An opinion poll for the pro-government Le Figaro published shortly after his speech found nearly three-quarters of voters supported his hard line proposals. However, The infamous However... subsequent polls in left-wing media have suggested a small majority disapprove of revoking the nationality of criminals who have been citizens for less than 10 years.
Tens of thousands of demonstrators protested in several cities on Saturday against Sarkozy's security crackdown, which has included the highly publicised rounding up and expulsion of illegal Roma migrants.
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"The real question is: would it really improve French people's security?"
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"to strip the nationality of polygamists and female circumcision advocates, have been fiercely criticised by the opposition and some legal experts"
Any of those "opposition" or "legal experts" women? If so, I'd suggest they submit themselves to female circumcision genital mutulation to prove they really think it's a good idea for France (or any civilized country).
If they're all men, they can deliver their wives to be mutilated instead. Think that'll work out?
As for polygamy, it ain't the same as just having a mistress living someplace else whom you see occasionally. They think polygamy is such a hot idea, they need to marry several more women, support them and their children, and move them all into the same house. The female supporters of this can live with several husbands.
Then y'all can fiercely criticize Sark. Until then, STFU.
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He apparently sold sensitive munitions, rifle components, NVGs and LIFs.
Sold them to PRC and USSR Russia.
There are laws against selling these kinds to foreigners.
He says he "found" them near a dumpster.
He says the Marines are out to get him.
He also says he just didn't think about giving them back to his superiors.
Investigators say they have no proof of criminality.
Apparently "ignorance of the law" is a defense.
A payoff for his IAEA work? A bankroll for an Iran-friendly Egypt? A bogus scandal created by the ruling party in Egypt? Or all of the above, most of the time?
[Al Arabiya] The Iraqi government is considering the release of former Iraqi deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz on compassionate grounds due to his ailing health, his Amman-based lawyer Badeea Aref said Monday. Prostate cancer?
"A head of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's office called me a short while ago and informed me that the government is mulling the release of Tariq Aziz because of his deteriorating health conditions," Aref said.
"They want him to die in prison. If they were really concerned about his health, they would have provided him with proper health care and sent him to hospital," he told AFP. It's hard to get all worked up about the health of a mass murderer ...
Aref said the Baghdad government "realizes that Aziz has become too old to be involved in politics, and it does not want him to die in prison ... They sympathize with him and understand his situation."
But in Baghdad, a senior aide to Maliki denied any such plans. "We are not considering releasing Tareq Aziz, and this is not one of Maliki's powers. This is totally untrue," he said, declining to be named.
The comments from Aziz's lawyer came after his son had said the government wanted his father to die in prison and has shown no compassion for his declining health.
The warders of 74-year-old Aziz at Kadhmiyah jail in northern Baghdad want the ex-top official who cut an urbane and articulate figure in Saddam Hussein's regime "to die in prison," said his embittered son, Ziad Aziz.
Ziad insisted that "there are no indications the government plans to release my father." Good.
Earlier this month, Ziad aid his father could no longer walk after a serious deterioration in his health, adding that he also had gum infection and could not use his teeth.
Aziz already suffers from diabetes, heart problems and high blood pressure. His family has repeatedly appealed for his release, particularly after a heart attack in late 2007. The US Federal prison system has guys like this in custody. It manages their health problems just fine, more or less.
One of Saddam's few surviving top cohorts, Aziz, a Christian and aficionado of Cuban cigars before the change of regime, turned himself in to U.S. forces in April 2003, days the fall of Baghdad.
In 2009, he was jailed for 15 years for the 1992 execution of 42 Baghdad wholesalers and separately given a seven-year term for his role in expelling Kurds from Iraq's north. He pleaded not guilty on all counts.
Named foreign minister in 1983 and then deputy prime minister in 1991, Aziz was believed to have wielded little real power of decision-making. But the fluent English speaker became one of the regime's best-known figures abroad as his master's voice. Saddam was said to have listened to the widely travelled, avuncular figure who often outwitted Western peers in debate.
Born in the northern town of Sinjar on February 1, 1936, Aziz was from a Chaldean Catholic family. He changed his given name, Michael Yuhanna, to allay any Arab nationalist hostility to his Christian background.
Aziz had known Saddam -- who was toppled in the invasion and then executed under the Shiite-dominated new regime -- since the 1950s but was kept outside the closed Sunni circle of the president's clansmen from the town of Tikrit.
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the widely travelled, avuncular figure who often outwitted Western peers in debate.
Like when he made the jocular observation in UN session, "no we don't eat them - we just kill them and feed them to the sharks. Why waste good protein? People are starving."
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Which suggests that Iran is taking advantage of Israel's reluctance to contaminate the area around Iran's nuclear reactor by bombing it, and it also suggests that Iran has no such reluctance.
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I don't quite get that gorb. The reactor is a valuable strategic target. By Iran making note of it, then boasting about their accuracy, and range, and coverage, they are putting out a warning, "Bomb us and we will attempt to destroy your reactor." Any nuclear pollution or fallout is just a side benefit. Any thing that hurts any thing Jewish they would relish in. No, it's saber rattling. The only question is, can they make good on their threat? One item to note is that they are no longer just talking about attacking Israek or wiping off the map. They are indicating specific targets for attack, publicly.
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I don't think the reactor is a strategic target unless they can reprocess the fuel, which I assume they need the reactor to do. (Am I wrong here?)
It's just a symbol to them.
But th Israelis have a target of wiping out these kinds of symbols before doing so would pose any kind of threat to the population near the reactor or in the fallout footprint.
I also read that if the roles were reversed, Iran wouldn't give a $hit about the affected population.
Combine this with the idea that the Iranians can't imagine how anyone would think differently than they do in this regard, and that is what I was trying to suggest.
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Well, I hate to use it, but it seems safe enough for now, according the that losers at Wikipedia,
The purpose of Dimona is widely assumed to be the manufacturing of nuclear weapons, and the majority of defense experts have concluded that it does in fact do so. It is also reported to manufacture depleted uranium for armor-piercing shells.
It may be more of a tit-or-tat scenerio. "You bomb our weapon's facility, we bombs yours." It would also put a bit of a crimp in their munitions manufacture. It also appears to be a research center. So, it's a big target with a capital, "T."
I think the fallout from a hit would be still be a secondary benefit. I don't think that Iran doesn't understand Israel's reluctance to cause ecological and civilian damage, but count on it. Most terrorists do. Also, I think they can imagine how any one would think different, it's just that they don't care, don't value any thing but their own ideology, and are, well, essentially evil at heart. People are nothing more than tools to be used and abused as needed. That is what should scare people the most.
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Israel should have built a dozen non-functioning reactors a long time ago. Let everyone think they are real. Use them as bait for terrorist attacks and let folks like Iran target them and waste assets.
Israel now, should get some old F-14s, rig them to fly by remote and paint them with Iranian colors and then pseudo-suicide them into any Iranian targets (assuming war that is) rather than using bombs initially. This would so confusion and intense paranoia between the regime and Iranian air force and might be able to take out a target or two in the process.
And they should make sure the "pilots" have little suicide films against the regime that can be released later along with footage captured by "iranians" who witnessed "had forewarning" the attacks and posted said video or photos online.
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Unless the US, ISRAEL mil attack Iran first, IMO PCorrect, still-Nuclearizing IRAN will choose to hold off on its military strike options until AFTER THE MILITANT GROUPS = HEZBOLLAH, ETC. STRIKE ISRAEL FIRST.
Once begun, unfortunately for Tel Aviv it will NOT be a another "SIX-DAY WAR" or even "2006" quickie war - iff anything, it will be "YOM KIPPUR", LONGER + FINAL, SAVE THIS TIME AGZ IRAN, AQ + the ISLAMIST GLOBAL MILTERR JIHAD, + PERHAPS MORE IMPOR ISRAEL WILL NOT BE CERTAIN AS TO UNCONDITIONAL US-NATO BACKING + MIL SUPPORT AS UNDER POTUS NIXON + COLD WAR.
E.g. WMF > PLAN ADM. ZHAO ZHAOZHONG = believes the US CANNOT AFFORD OR SUPPORT AN ATTACK AGZ IRAN.
ADM. ZHAO ZHAOZHONG read, US = US-ALLIES HAVE NO REAL OPTIONS SAVE TO MIL ATTACK + OCCUPY IRAN E.G. IRAQ + AFPAK. SHORT OF DIRECT INVASION + OCCUPATION, THE US = US-ALLIES MUST WIN QUICKLY IN CONVENTIONAL BLITZKRIEG, OR ELSE RESORT TO UNILATERAL MIL USE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS TO STOP OR DEFEAT IRAN.
"NONE OF THE ABOVE" = IRAN WILL DEV ITS NUCWEAPS, THE MILTERRS WILL GET THEIR
"ISLAMIST/JIHADIST BOMB(S)" FOR USE IN LOCAL, WORLDWIDE TERROR.
COLD WAR COMMIE "PEOPLE'S WAR" now becomes POST-COLD WAR "PEOPLE'S MILITANCY-TERRORISM".
IMO Israel knows it, + so does MOUD + MULLAHS = IRAN, TO INCLUD DA MILITANTS.
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@ rjschwarz Kudos for thinking outside the box!
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Only flaw in rj's idea is that the DOD and USN chopped up all the F-14s after the multiple disclosures of scumbags selling parts to Iran a couple of years ago. Only gate guards remain, and they have already been stripped of good parts.
F-4s however.......
The U.N. atomic agency expressed alarm Monday about Iran's decision to bar some of its inspectors, suggesting that its efforts to monitor the country's nuclear program were suffering as a result.
The unusually blunt International Atomic Energy Agency warning was voiced in a restricted report on Iran made available to The Associated Press that otherwise contained few surprises. It followed Iran's recent decision to strip two experienced inspectors of the right to monitor its nuclear activities after the two reported what they said were undeclared nuclear experiments.
"The IAEA's reports of obstruction and Iran's failure to cooperate are troubling to all who care about non-proliferation and global security," White House spokesman Tommy Vietor said.
The Islamic Republic says the reporting by the two was inaccurate, but the IAEA stands by the findings. And the 11-page IAEA document issued Monday devoted a special section to the complaint, reflecting the importance attached to it by IAEA chief Yukiya Amano.
Such a section was included in only one previous report, after Iran stripped the right of dozens of inspectors in 2006 and 2007 -- most of them in order to show displeasure over recently passed U.N. Security Council sanctions on the Islamic Republic.
Monday's report said that objections by Iran to some experienced inspectors "hampers the inspection process and thereby detracts from the Agency's capability to implement effective and efficient safeguards in Iran."
Diplomats from three countries accredited to the agency echoed the IAEA's concerns in comments to the AP, saying Iran appeared keen to ban seasoned inspectors -- particularly those from nuclear weapons countries with special skills that could help detect attempts to make nuclear arms.
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No problem here. I read an authoritative NIE by the CIA that Iran was not working on a bomb.
I hope the next administration conducts a through audit of the assets of each of those authors for potential tax evasion on unreported income. They deserve to hang for treason, but I'd settle for the Capone treatment.
[Iran Press] Minister of Science, Research and Technology Kamran Daneshjoo says the "enemies" of Iran are plotting a cultural invasion of the country's universities.
"The enemies are making efforts to replace the Islamic atmosphere in [Iranian] universities with their liberal democratic environment," Daneshjoo said Sunday, referring to remarks by the Leader of the Islamic Revolution.
Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei told a gathering of university students in Tehran last week that higher education institutions had become the main "target" of plots hatched by domineering powers.
The Iranian minister added that Tehran would publish evidence proving the involvement of several foreign spy agencies in efforts to "negatively influence" students, Fars News Agency reported.
Daneshjoo went on to add that neither the nation nor the students would ever tolerate universities that disrespect Islamic values.
On the large-scale emigration of individuals with technical skills or knowledge from Iran, the Leader said on August 22 that "moral and religious" motivation could make expatriate elite return to serve their country.
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[Iran Press] Vice Speaker of the Iranian Parliament (Majlis) Shahabeddin Sadr says sanctions and international pressure provide Iran with more opportunities for progress.
"The repeated adoption of resolutions will not weaken the Iranian nation's resolve in defending the country and protecting its dignity in the world," Sadr told a conference in Iran's northern Mazandaran Province on Monday.
"When it comes to Islam and the [Islamic] Revolution, the Iranian nation will rise [in their defense]," ISNA quoted Sadr as saying.
Sadr expounded on the achievements made by Iran during the eight-year Iraqi imposed war.
"During the imposed war, the enemy tried to halt the [Islamic] Revolution, but because of the resolve, willpower and faith and of the Muslin nation of Iran, the war became an opportunity for progress," he added.
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Sanctions have not worked in the past with the nutjobs. Just a prelude to war. It seems like there is a checklist or flow diagram we go through that goes something like this:
1. Stern diplomatic warnings. (Did they work? Nope.)
2. Sanctions? (Did they work? Nope.)
3. UN resolution? (Did it work? Nope. Maybe combined with #2.)
4. Even more stern warnings. (Did they work? Nope.)
5. Even tighter sanctions. (Did they work? Nope.)
6. Some precipitating event occurs such as an attack on us. Dithering in the higher echelons of power.
7. Limited war with difficult ROEs for the troops. (Does this win the hearts and minds? Nope.)
An alternative scenario might be use overwhelming force. Make war hurt. Make the enemy wish they had never f#cked with you in the first place. Exercise the option of rebuilding the country (or not).
[Pak Daily Times] Iran's diminutive PresidentMahmoud Short Round Ahmadinejad has questioned the accepted narrative of the September 11, 2001 attacks in the US, saying it was still not clear who was behind them. "Something happened in New York and still, nobody knows who the main perpetrators of that act were," Ahmadinejad told diplomats and newspaper editors, late on Sunday, while on a brief visit to Qatar. "No independent people were allowed to try and identify the perpetrators," he charged. "They say forces of Evil were hidden in Afghanistan and NATO mobilised all its resources and attacked Afghanistan," he said. "They say that in the Twin Towers, 2,000 people were killed. In Afghanistan, so far, more 110,000 had been killed."
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[Al Arabiya] Iran's elite Revolutionary Guard has condemned an attack on the home of an opposition leader, calling the perpetrators "unruly elements."
The state news agency on Sunday quoted the Guard division in Tehran as saying the attack on Mahdi Karroubi's home was caused by "unruly elements" and the Guards "strongly condemn it."
The statement added that the group was "totally unrelated to the Guards and Basij," it said referring to the group's street militia.
On Thursday a large group of men attacked the home of Karroubi and beat one of his bodyguards unconscious.
The opposition has accused the Basij of being behind the attack.
Karroubi was one of the pro-reform candidates who ran against President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in June 2009 election and said the contests were fraudulent.
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[An Nahar] UNIFIL spokesman Neeraj Singh said Saturday that U.N. peacekeepers were waiting for the results of investigations to determine the nature of explosions at a suspected Hizbullah arms cache in Shehabiyeh.
/"We can't confirm anything" before the end of the probe in the blasts that tore through the three-storey building on Friday, Singh told Agence France Presse. "We have carried out additional investigations at the scene of the incident ... getting an answer from investigators requires some time," he said. "How much time we talkin' here?"
"Years. Could be centuries."
A Lebanese army spokesman has confirmed that there had been three explosions in the house, but said the nature and cause of the blasts was still unclear.
The Central News Agency quoted an international security source as saying on Saturday that the blasts could have resulted from training carried out by Hizbullah members inside the house.
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[An Nahar] Tawheed Movement leader Wiam Wahab on Sunday vehemently attacked Prime Minister Saad Hariri and described as "Israeli agent" anyone that finances the Special Tribunal for Lebanon.
"We are on the brink (of a civil war) and we could fall into the abyss any moment because we have responsible officials who are not responsible," Wahab said in remarks to OTV.
He said Hariri was not acting as a prime minister for Lebanon. Hariri "is acting as if he were leader of an alley," Wahab said.
He said he was surprised that the Opposition continues to accept Hariri as Prime Minister. "We've had enough of six childish years," Wahab said, adding that anyone supporting or financing the STL is an Israeli agent.
Addressing Hariri, Wahab said: "Back off. You made us ungrateful for the international tribunal. Go away. We want to live."
He called on Opposition Cabinet ministers to resign over the STL.
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[Al Arabiya] The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) remained concerned about possible activity in Iran to develop a nuclear payload for a missile, according to a report published Monday.
Iran's total production of low-enriched uranium has risen by around 15 percent since May to reach 2.8 tons, the report said, showing Tehran is pushing ahead with disputed work despite tougher sanctions.
The IAEA also voiced concern about what it called Iran's "repeated objection" to the agency's choice of inspectors working in the country, after Tehran barred two U.N. nuclear inspectors from entering in June.
"The agency rejects the basis upon which Iran has sought to justify its objection," the report said, also referring to earlier cases where Iran raised such objections.
"It is also concerned that the repeated objection to the designation of experienced inspectors hampers the inspection process and detracts from the agency's ability to implement safeguards in Iran," it added.
Western powers are likely to see the report's findings as backing up their suspicions that Tehran is seeking to build nuclear bombs and underlining the need for the country to enter serious negotiations to curb its nuclear program.
Meanwhile, the report indicates that Syria's lack of cooperation with United Nations nuclear inspectors is hampering the IAEA's ability to determine whether the Middle Eastern country was building a nuclear reactor.
With the passage of time some of the necessary information concerning the Dair Alzour site is further deteriorating or has been lost entirely, the IAEA added.
After two years of the investigations constrained by Syrias lack of cooperation, it is critical that Syria positively engage with the agency on these issues without further delay.
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[Pak Daily Times] Lebanon's prime minister said he was wrong to accuse Syria of killing his father, Rafik al-Hariri, in 2005 and said the charge against Damascus had been politically motivated.
Saad al-Hariri's comments to Asharq al-Awsat newspaper, published on Monday, were the clearest repudiation to date of his earlier accusation that Syria was behind the Beirut bombing which killed his father and 22 others five years ago. Syria had repeatedly denied the charge.
The assassination provoked a domestic and international outcry, which forced Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to withdraw troops from Lebanon, ending nearly three decades of military presence in its smaller neighbour.
Hariri has since mended relations with Damascus, visiting Assad several times in the last year and stressing Lebanon's need for strong ties with Syria.
"We assessed the mistakes that we made with Syria, that harmed the Syrian people and relations between the two countries," Hariri told the newspaper.
"At a certain stage we made mistakes and accused Syria of assassinating the martyred premier. This was a political accusation, and this political accusation has finished."
Rafik al-Hariri's killing remains a highly charged issue in Lebanon. A United Nations investigation initially implicated Syria, but media reports have said that the U.N. prosecutor may issue indictments against members of the militant Shi'ite group Hezbollah. Hezbollah denies any involvement.
Hezbollah chief Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah has dismissed the U.N. tribunal as an Israeli project, but Hariri has defended the court's independence. Arguments over the tribunal's credibility, and the prospect of possible Hezbollah indictments, has shaken Lebanon's fragile national unity government which is led by Hariri and includes Hezbollah ministers.
"The tribunal is not linked to the political accusations, which were hasty ... The tribunal will only look at evidence," Hariri was quoted as saying by the newspaper.
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[Pak Daily Times] Iran is pushing ahead with its atomic work in defiance of tougher sanctions and the UN nuclear watchdog is concerned about Tehran's objections to some of its inspectors, an IAEA report shows. The confidential report, obtained by Rooters on Monday, also said that the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) remains concerned about possible activity in the Islamic Republic to develop a nuclear payload for a missile.
It calls on Iran, which denies accusations that it is seeking to build nuclear bombs, to grant the UN agency access to relevant sites, equipment and persons without further delay, to help in its investigation. Western powers are likely to see the report's findings as backing up their suspicions that Tehran is seeking to develop nuclear bombs and underlining the need for the country to enter serious negotiations to curb its nuclear programme.
"This is a pretty critical report and it seems the sides have reached an impasse," said head of the Washington-based Institute for Science and International Security, David Albright.
Iran's envoy to the IAEA Ali Asghar Soltanieh said that the report had damaged the agency's technical reputation "but it also made clear that all of Iran's nuclear activities were under its complete supervision". The West hopes the imposition since June of additional UN, US and European sanctions on the country would persuade the Iranian leadership to back down and halt sensitive atomic work.
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[Iran Press] Latest International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) report on Iran's nuclear activities reaffirms Tehran's commitment to the agency's rules, Iranian envoy to the watchdog group says.
Commenting on the report released by IAEA's Director General Yukiya Amano on Monday, Iran's Ambassador to the UN nuclear watchdog Ali Asghar Soltanieh said "After seven years of constant inspections, the report once again confirms the non-diversion of Iran's nuclear activities towards military and banned objectives."
"Although the report has tarnished the Agency's technical credibility by mentioning technical details and quoting some parts of UN Security Council's resolution, it clearly shows that all of Iran's nuclear activities, especially the enrichment efforts, have been conducted under the supervision of the agency," Soltanieh told Mehr News Agency after Amano's report was published Monday night.
"The report reflects achievements made by the Islamic Republic and its mastery of nuclear technology, especially in the field of enrichment, and clearly indicates Iran's commitment to IAEA's Statute and Safeguards Agreement, confirming that all of Iran's nuclear activities are conducted under the Agency's supervision," he added.
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This doesn't square with another post at R-burg: U.N. Nuclear Agency Sounds Alarm Over Iran
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Blair said he didn't understand fully the phenomenon at the time of 9/11, when al-Qaeda operatives hijacked planes and crashed two of them into the World Trade Center in New York, killing about 3,000 people.
Spain has rejected as totally inadequate the declaration of a ceasefire by Basque separatists ETA, saying the group should abandon violence forever.
[Al Arabiya] The Iraqi government is considering the release of former Iraqi deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz on compassionate grounds due to his ailing health, his Amman-based lawyer Badeea Aref said Monday. 
[An Nahar] UNIFIL spokesman Neeraj Singh said Saturday that U.N. peacekeepers were waiting for the results of investigations to determine the nature of explosions at a suspected Hizbullah arms cache in Shehabiyeh. 
