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The tone of this letter is typically ARAB, very arrogant. Actually it is an open genocide threat, I dont know what kind of a news paper publishes this shit. Unless of course it is a IslamoNazi newspaper. We need to open our eyes the NeoNazis are not in europe or USA they are in the Cameljockeyland of Sand Dunes
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The Americans on the whole are a faithless lot who respect no agreements and honor no obligations that do not fit within their own interest of the moment. They do this with no shame or even faint embarrassment.
Have you forgotten the Maung?
They are a people who fought alongside the Americans during their war on Vietnam. The Maung were renowned for their courage and fighting skills and they endured some of the heaviest attacks from the Vietcong. When the Americans decided that they had had a bellyful of Vietnam and were no longer willing to fight for âfreedomâ and âdemocracyâ, they left Vietnam and abandoned the Maung to their fate without a backward glance.
Thanks to John Kerry's leadership in 1971, things like this can be said. He was scum then. Now he's just older, richer scum.
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Article: When the Americans decided that they had had a bellyful of Vietnam and were no longer willing to fight for âfreedomâ and âdemocracyâ, they left Vietnam and abandoned the Maung to their fate without a backward glance.
Hundreds of thousands of Hmong (or Montagnards) and over a million South Vietnamese were resettled in America after the Vietnam War. I'm sure we'll welcome the Kurds if it ever comes to that. I suspect if we ever pull out, the Arabs will carry out another genocide on the Kurds. Not that Kerry gives a damn.
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A point to be noted, inspite of the obvious Nazi Mindset in the Arab world is that the Kurds were driven to support the US invasion by the atrocities commited upon them by their Arab brothers. Why is it that when Saddam was killing them by the thousands this prince had nothing to say. Now Saddam is begging for mercy this Nazi prince has morphed into a Prophet of doom. Just another example of double standards.
Against a pastel image of a road studded with roadblocks, disappearing into a desert, a banner in ornate Arabic script reads, "al-Khansaa," followed by a tagline, "published by the Women's Information Bureau in the Arabian Peninsula." Named after a renowned Arab poetess of the early Islamic era, al-Khansaa is a Webzine ostensibly written by women and specifically targeted at women. But instead of the usual feminine fare of food, fashion and furnishings, it provides tips on how to physically prepare for jihad, parenting advice on grooming future "lions on the battlefield" and discussions on the role of female holy fighters — mujahidat — in Islamic law. "We will stand covered in our veils and abayas [all-encompassing robes favored by Saudi women], with our weapons in our hands and our children in our arms," proclaims the editorial in the inaugural issue of al-Khansaa, which first appeared on the Internet last month.
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Gender equity comes to the Middle East. Wahhabi style. No doubt Gentle gets goosebumps reading al-Khansaa.
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"We will stand covered in our veils and abayas [all-encompassing robes favored by Saudi women], with our weapons in our hands and our children in our arms," proclaims the editorial in the inaugural issue of al-Khansaa, which first appeared on the Internet last month.
Make sure to wear black abayas so that your skin blisters from the heat flash. Good thing that you'll be holding your spawn too. Always nice to kill two turds birds with one nuke stone.
But even more alarming than the "feminist-jihadist" rhetoric is the fact that al Qaeda seems to be targeting a new generation of potential recruits via their mothers.
Half of all Arabic women cannot read. This makes them ideal candidates for propagandistic recruitment techniques.
"Recruiting women is a very smart strategy, because we wonât think of women as terrorists â it doesnât fit the terrorist profile of young Arab males from 17 to 25."
Not anymore.
Whatâs more, Stern notes that the dress code for devout Muslim women and the norms for body searches make it easier for women to hide weapons and explosives.
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It's gonna be fun too see how long the half-life of the Beslan baby killing spree is going to last. I figure the gentle men back in 5 weeks or less, they are none to quick.
Japanese negotiators expressed "serious concern" about North Korea's missile program in talks that went into a second day in Beijing, a Japanese diplomat said. The Japanese delegation arrived at the North Korean embassy Sunday morning for discussions which the day before had focused on Pyongyang's missile and nuclear program and its past abductions of Japanese citizens. "The Japanese side expressed serious concern about the missile issue," said the Japanese diplomat, referring to Saturday's negotiations.
The Japanese delegates, headed by Akitaka Saiki, the foreign ministry's deputy chief for Asian affairs, would see to it that the missile and nuclear issue was on Sunday's agenda as well, he said. The talks were taking place against the backdrop of a Japanese press report that increased activity had been observed at about 10 missile bases in North Korea that could be seen as preparation for a missile launch.
One agenda item that the Japanese negotiators were keen to push again on Sunday was North Korea's abduction of Japanese citizens during the Cold War and their fate in the isolated country, according to the Japanese diplomat. "The North Korean side said it is still conducting its investigation into its abduction issue," he said of Saturday's talks. "They made an oral report about the investigations but it's not the final report." He said he did not know if any new details had emerged from the account provided by the North Korean side. The North Korean team is headed by Song Il Ho, who is deputy director of his foreign ministry's Asian Affairs department. During the talks this weekend, North Korea had been expected to disclose information about 10 missing Japanese nationals abducted in the 1970s and 1980s. The kidnapping issue has been the biggest obstacle to the normalization of relations between the two countries.
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In other news the Diet is informed of the need for 12 roller-blade carriers.
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Japan's only "serious concern" should be over the rapid assembly and test of a nuclear device by their own scientists.
Buried somewhere deep within the politburo's archives is an ancient map showing Japan as a Suzerain of China. Japan needs to act accordingly. After gobbling up Taiwan, the politburo will probably feel an urgent need to go on a Japanese Diet.
Most Arabs and Muslims in Germany are all too aware of the record of German Interior Minister Otto Schily. In particular, they know him for the barrage of vitriol he often unleashes against Islam, against Arabs in general, and Palestinians in particular. So for them, Schily's recent statements in Israel will have come as no surprise. The German minister bluntly defended the apartheid wall being built by Ariel Sharon's extreme rightwing government, and proceeded to declare that Islamic terror is now the greatest danger to the "civilised" world. Islam is terror; Muslims are terrorists
Schily was in Israel last week to attend a conference on terror marking the third anniversary of 9/11. One could view his remarks as simply a nod to the occasion, but the man's record suggests otherwise. He should have brought a few missles with him, to help the IDF go to town on the Pale-slime.
For Schily often goes beyond the official view of his government in defending Israel's violations of international law and its continued aggression against the Palestinian people. Not content with denouncing Islamist terror, he goes on to slander Islam as a religion. But although he seems to live in a black-and-white moral world, there is a little-known puzzle hidden in Schily's past. In his youth, Schily acted as the defence lawyer for a number of major German terrorists, and in particular, for the members of the dreaded Baader-Meinhof group. Smear! Mudsling! Invective! Innuendo!
One cannot blame Schily for having been an extreme leftist in his youth. The minister began his political life as a Trotskyite, before moving on to the Green Party. He then left the Greens for the Socialist Party. All of these transitions are quite normal in themselves. One does not necessarily have to see Schily's past career as an extended exercise in opportunism -- people change their minds all the time... ...and his next plans are to move to Orange County, Cal, and wait for Arnold to retire, yada, yada, yada, ad nauseum. NUKE MECCA!
From the Times online. Non-UK readers have to jump through hoops (and pay) to read the article online, I believe. Couldn't establish a link to article, but if you search for "Corsica" here, you'll find a hyperlink. Slightly EFL.
As Mohammed surveyed the wreckage of his Middle Eastern grocery store in the Corsican city of Bastia, he found an undamaged couscous maker from Turkey. "We sell a lot of these," he said, holding up the box. Not any more, writes Matthew Campbell. A terrorist bomb has put Mohammed out of business. He and Malika, his wife, were born in Corsica but are preparing to flee a wave of violence against the island's Arabs. "If we reopen the shop," he said, "they will bomb it again." He was referring to Corsican nationalists who have threatened "physically to eliminate" men such as Mohammed. An Arab petrol station manager was murdered by masked gunmen this month and the next day a Moroccan consular official narrowly escaped death in his car when an explosives detonator malfunctioned. "Things here started to get really bad after the bombings in Spain," said Mohammed, referring to the attacks in Madrid on March 11 in which 191 people were killed and several Moroccans were arrested as suspects. "They (the nationalists) think that we are all terrorists."
The violence against Arabs in Corsica is worse than elsewhere in France or in other European countries plagued by racial tensions. There are fears, nevertheless, that the Corsican example may herald what is to come elsewhere in response to immigration. The Corsican bombers allege that traditions are under pressure in the mountainous Mediterranean island popular with British tourists. After an attack on an Arab bank in July they issued a statement claiming the violence had a precise goal: "To stop the immigration that for too many years has gnawed at this island." The statement, by a group calling itself Corsi Clandestini, warned Arabs would be "hit in their homes" and that those who resisted would be "physically eliminated". Police are treating the murder of Mohamed El Gouy at his petrol station on September 17 as another racist attack. Protesters gathered the next day asking the government to intervene but local politicians, fearful of ending up on a hitlist, have avoided the issue.
Corsica has always shown hostility to outsiders and a violent independence campaign has been waged by nationalists against Paris since the 1960s. In the first seven months of this year, however, 10 out of 115 bombings were directed at Arabs and eight of those, say police, were accompanied by racist graffiti and claimed by shadowy racist groups. The Corsican Arab population has grown dramatically in the past three decades and simmering anti-Arab sentiment erupted after September 11. Many Arabs are leaving for southern France.
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Let me state up front that this (expletive deleted) must be stopped. Period. We are NOT muslims and don't need to sink to their level.
That being said, there's a nasty little 8 year old boy in me that is saying something along the lines of "How do you like them apples, Jihadi-san? Think your fellow terrorists are so great now?".
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If they are so inclined they can use the stinking corsican cheese and achieve the same results. Corsican = French + Balls. Way to go
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âThings here started to get really bad after the bombings in Spain,â said Mohammed, referring to the attacks in Madrid on March 11 in which 191 people were killed and several Moroccans were arrested as suspects. âThey (the nationalists) think that we are all terrorists.â
It is critical to note that the sort of anti-Arab violence mentioned in this article is a band-aid solution. It is not just reprehensible conduct, but a treating of symptoms and not the real disease. As the world begins to reorient itself into a global community, coexistence will have to be accepted.
That said, so long as Arab immigrants do not assimilate into their adopted cultures, they can only look forward to more of this same violent xenophobia. The key trigger for much of this centers upon the congenital Arab inability to actively condemn terrorism and noticeably agitate against it. As N Guard so aptly pointed out, that's where the 8 year-old kid in so many of us assumes a vindictive posture.
At some point Mohammed needs to realize that silence is consent. Any tacit acceptance of terrorism effectively condones it. I am obliged to wonder how many Corsican Arabs would have been attacked had they loudly and prominently protested early on against the terrorist attacks in America, Bali and Europe.
All Arab people everywhere are placed in extreme danger by Islamic terrorism. It is only the restraint of outside civilization that has yet to make this any more clear. What's more, Islam itself as a putative religion is also direly imperiled by terrorism. The thundering silence of so many Muslims regarding terrorist atrocities will inexorably lead the remaining world to conclude that Islam is a political ideology and not any sort of faith.
Once that transition of perception happens, Islam will begin to be dismantled through legal apparatus, force of arms or simple vigilante activism. And it will only have itself to blame.
The purpose of terror is to partisanize and divide, causing greater conflict. Islamic terrorists want world-wide jihad and they're slowly getting it. Best course for us - kill the guilty, keep an eye on those not definitely known to be guilty.
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I have a feeling if these Arabs were Catholic this would not be happening.
Everyone knows but will not say it.
Arabs are loyal in the extreme to the groups in the following order:
(a) Religion (Islam a muslim must never speak against another muslim. A muslim must support Jihad. )
(b)Family (a good thing)
(c)Tribe (passed up by history)
(d)Nation (yes the bottom of the list)
So these Corsicans who are no dummies have this almost right. Burning folks out is not good. Blowing them up is not good . But the realization that these people need to get back to "arab" lands is right.
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SPoD, I'm obliged to take issue with you. What you call "the realization that these people need to get back to 'arab' lands" is nothing but indiscriminate xenophobia. This is specifically why I clarified in my first post about assimilation.
Muslims who cannot assimilate to the extent whereby they too share mutual feelings of disgust at terrorist atrocities, like so much of the world does, definitely need to go back or be deported to their countries of origin. Anyone of any race or creed that makes an earnest effort to adopt the recognized mores of civilization in their new country's culture deserves an honest chance to begin a new life.
It is crucial to embrace those Muslims who make this vital leap of departure from the enclave mentality that so many Arab cultures foster. This represents one of the only ways that moderate Muslims will be encouraged not to drift towards militant Islam.
If the remaining world permits itself to descend into puerile xenophobia, then some mild degree of the jihadist's intentions will have been fulfilled for them. We must not let this happen. Otherwise, this will become a religious war and it will be against Islam as a whole.
Rest assured that I have lost nearly all patience with the doctrinal wing of Islam's scholars. The vast majority of these influential spokesmen for Islam's united voice continue to espouse nothing but hatred and militancy, to the great detriment of their entire religion. We have a very short window of time available to peacefully demonstrate just how wrong these treacherous imams and mullahs are.
Islam seems oblivious to how only a few more 9-11 and 3-11 atrocities will justifiably close this window so that the real jihad can begin. Namely, the one against all Islam. As civilized human beings, we must try not to condemn such a huge segment of this earth's population without fair trial. It is incumbent upon all thinking people to make a genuine attempt at extending the olive branch to Islam.
Should Muslims choose to spit upon all further peace offerings, then let the cleansing begin. But we must first make the effort so that there is no doubt these avenues were explored first.
Again, I have only the dimmest of hopes that Islam will recognize the dire peril that militant Muslims have placed their entire religion in. The jihadists are quite successfully polarizing the entire world against not just their militant cause, but all Islamic causes. Somehow, they seem to forget who owns all of the nuclear weapons and advanced tools of war. It is this willful oversight that will quite possibly cost nearly every Muslim on earth their life. All courtesy of the Islamic terrorists.
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Gee, I'm real, um, broken hearted about this. Yeah...
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Sock Puppet, I beg to disagree for an Arab no matter what kind (christian, mooselimb, or whatever) the most important thing is Arab Nationalism, if they can use Islam to further their ends then they will take the name of Islam too, usually to enlist more help from people who can actually fight, but like always those people always remain objects of contempt. They enlist Christian arabs for help regularly as in Palestine and Leabnon and Iraq and those are always a cut above any non arabs in their ranks even mooselimbs. I have read a lot about the heady 60's and UAR with communism as their guide, and they fought alongside the Brits against Turks eventough Turks were mooselimbs. Doesnt it remind you of a certain movement in Germany.
I have a feeling if these Arabs were Catholic this would not be happening.
Technically, SPoD, you're right. Depending on how broadly "Arab" is defined, then the Maltese qualify as Catholic Arabs.
And surprise, surprise ... Malta sounds like a pretty nice country. Admittedly they're a wee bit too old-fashioned for me (even divorce is still illegal), and the island is supposedly getting a little too crowded. But hey ... at least they're not boomers. (And English is a co-official language thanks to the Brits.)
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When I was there back in the 70s, Malta had the coolest buses anywhere. That's right, buses. The buses were the familiar European makes but, apparently because of tariffs, the bodywork was locally built. Most of the buses were driver-owned and had bodies custom-built to the driver's specifications. Many of these reflected the styling gimcrackery of 1950s vintage American cars; tail fins, garish quad headlights, fake exhaust ports, and tons of chrome. Styles have been toned down in recent years, but some of these gloriously uninhibited old vehicles are still in operation. I have a picture of one, but my webhosting server has gone left for now. I'll try to post it later.
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Zenster: I'd like to point out that while Sock Puppet omitted the necessary connection of "arab" and "muslim," he likewise didn't have anything bad to say about Arab Christians, Arab Jews, etc.
That's why he said: "I have a feeling if these Arabs were Catholic this would not be happening."
That's NOT xenophobia.
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What a load of racist semi-fascist ignorant comments.
The ignorant-uneducated people who claim that Muslims in general did not condemn sep-11 or madrid bombings simply live in their delusional ignorant world.
The Corsicans have been blowing things (Police stations, French vacation houses etc) up in Corsica for over a decade, but I can bet that none of you ignorant uneducated semi-fascists ever heard of them until recently.
And to the last ignorant Asedwich, what religion do you think the French from mainland (that the Corsicans have targeted for a decade) are?
All of you made apologic comments for those criminal attacks against innocent people (the Moroccan immigrants). While there certainly is a problem with the Muslim extremists ideology, it is neither supported by official Islamic institutions, nor financed by Muslim states. Bin-Laden and his gang never was recognized as a religious authority, and Saudi Arabia has stripped Bin-Laden of his citizenship way before sep-11. While OBL and his gang are religious fundamentalists, those people are in fact engaged in a political war, not a religious one. Bin-Laden and his gang have not asked any of you ignorants to convert or live by their fundamentalist ways, but Laden often speaks of simple POLITICS. The politics of US foreign policy that most of the world agrees that it is misguided and dangerous. When Bin-Laden says that US foreign policy has killed many Muslims (Palestinian problem, Iraq sanctions, etc), how do you respond to that? How do you respond to the fact that OBL chose to attack America and not Canada for instance? Most of American's problems with the Arab world is directly related to Israeli support. The Arab world can't do anything if people are sick of watching depressing news from palestine for over 30 years, some people will get crazy and lose their mind. It is like McVeight.
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If the Israelis disappeared, nothing would change with the Arabs, except that they would be blaming your failure on something else. Arabs have a failed culture. Failure politically, failure economically, failure intellectually, failure morally. The frustration is the result of being unable to throw off the chains of a culture of failure. The Israelis did not bind the Arabs in failure, the Arabs did it to themselves. Your best hope is that W can succeed in Iraq, because if he doesn't, you will spend the next century as you have the last 8, as failures.
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Mrs Davis,
What you are claiming is simply delusion and baseless.
The situation in the Arab world is no different than the majority of non-western countries, and much better than many 3rd world countries.
Dubai (UAE) for instance is much cleaner and much more organized than Tel-Aviv (Israel). Standard of living in the the UAE is in fact higher than in Israel.
In many Arab Gulf states, foreign workers constitute at least 30% of the population, but they still get full generous state social benefits such as free health care, free utilites, free education, etc.
UAE might not make fighter planes or rockets, but the fact that they extend their social programs to foreigners does really tell something.
Check your facts before spewing your racist bs.
Israel is not responsible for all the 3rd world countries on the planet (no one ever said that), but it certainly is responsible for creating a dangerous and hostile geo-political situation in the Middle East.
Because American policies support the apartheid Israeli regime, it became easy for Arabs to blame America. After all, Europe stopped selling weapons to Israel along time ago.
The Israeli fundamentalists are not going anywhere, they are still going to be in the Arab's backyard. If those lunatic-fundamentalists believe 6 million can beat over 200 million people forever, they are as delusional as you are.
What W is doing in Iraq is what Saddam attempted to do a decade ago before he became a dictator. He took over power through force, and believed he was going to be the "savior of Iraq".
Bush's war has cost Iraq at least 10,000 innocent civilian deaths. That's the price for Saddam's capture.
Don't think the Arabs are not watching. In the old days (British days), you could kill thousands and no one would know except the victims. Today it is different. The Arab world has at least 120 satellite TVs, and they are all watching this madness and killings.
There is an Arab saying that goes like this:
"Dont throw stones at a house of glass"
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Italy's reputation for religious tolerance was in the balance last week after a ban on women wearing burqas instigated in a tiny Alpine village began spreading across the country.
Soddy Arabia has no reputation for religious tolerance, so they don't have to worry about things like that...
An Italian woman who converted to Islam nine years ago and took to veiling her face after performing the Haj, the pilgrimage to Makkah, has received two fines from the authorities in the village where she has lived all her life. Sabrina Varroni, 34, converted after marrying her Moroccan husband, with whom she has four children. There are 10 other Muslims in the village, but she is the only who wears the veil.
So nine out of ten are assimilating...
The mayor of Drezzo, the 1,000-strong village near the Swiss border where she lives, has strong views on such practices. A member of the xenophobic and separatist Northern League, Cristian Tolettini found two laws on the books to help him stamp them out: one passed under Mussolini's fascist rule in 1931, banning the wearing of masks in public, and another dating from 1975, at the height of the Red Brigades scare, forbidding the wearing of items that disguise a person's identity. And he has instructed local police to enforce them.
Even though the 1931 law was passed by Mussolini, it sounds remarkably like good sense. And the tie-in to the Red Brigades "scare" — they kidnapped and killed Aldo Moro, remember — seems pretty apt.
Though the author meant the reference to the Red Brigades differently, of course.
As a result, last week Drezzo's only policeman handed Varroni two penalty notices on successive days, each for about £25 — once when she was waiting at the bus stop for her children to come home from school, once in the municipal office. The following day she seemed likely to get another if she didn't remove her veil. Instead she stayed indoors. Despite the evident absurdity of a village woman known to all the other inhabitants being fined for setting foot outside her home, Tolettini defends his action. For Varroni to go around wearing the burqa, he said, was "a continual and conscious violation of the law" which was "not a question of principle but of correctness. The law of 1975 was enacted in light of the terrorism of the Red Brigades, and today too it seems to me that reasons of security are not lacking."
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The law of 1975 was enacted in light of the terrorism of the Red Brigades, and today too it seems to me that reasons of security are not lacking.
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Dutchgeek, you should be thankful that they are Turks and Moroccans. Turks, since Attaturk, have been assiduously secular and Moroccans, at least in my experience, tend to be fun-loving, live and let live people. These are good hardworking people who, if given a chance, can be good neighbors and useful members of society.
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Anonymous6334, I can read without moving my lips. However, what I said was that the Dutch were fortunate to have Turks and Moroccans instead of Palestinians, Egyptians, Syrians, etc. There are national cultural characteristics that trump religious aspects. An American atheist has more in common with an American evangelical than either does with a German or an Italian or a Palestinian. It is silly to assume that all muslims are jihadists, or for that matter that all jihadists are muslims. Granted that jihadists are drawn primarily from muslims in the mideast, but that doesn't make all the people there jihadists. Most (Palestinians excluded) are just trying to get through another day. And, yes, the genes from my Crusader ancestors make me inclined to want to kill all the jihadists and let Allah sort them out.
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Jehadists are drawn from any community with exposure to Saudi flavor of Islam. And it does not take long to get as Saudis usually infiltrate by funding mosques then they start buying ideas. Any community not doing well financially can fall in their trap.
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There are the jihadists and then there are the fellow travelers--most of the other Muslims who don't speak up against terror and fund the mullahs to spread the message that we in the West are evil and need to be destroyed. These folks seem to have never gotten over the Crusades. Most have a memory of events that is passed down from generation to generation.
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Anonymous6334, in my day I flew B-52s in combat and I suspect that the bombs we dropped probably introduced more men to their maker than you have ever thought about. My youngest son is a Marine stationed a little to the west of Fallujah. I have no illusions about Islam. But I think that intolerant assholes like you are the cause of much of the world's problems. Basically I think that you are one of those people who sit around the bar and tell made up war stories to make yourself feel manly. FOAD.
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Disagree with both camps on this one. Crucial factor for determining the likelihood of a muslim minority's tilting toward the jihadists is the ability of the larger society to assimilate them, not national origin (as per RWV). In other words, the culture of thehost country matters greatly. Europe has a much larger problem with its muslim minorities because Europe tends to attract (and reinforces among those it attracts) those with a tendency toward resentment of the prevailing order and a wish to opt out of it rather than strive to fit in and succeed. America gets the strivers among the world's immigrants; Europe tends to get more resenters.
What percent of Amsterdam's working-age muslims are employed in challenging, rewarding jobs that offer a chance for real security, personal autonomy and prosperity? I doubt it's more than fifteen or twenty percent. OTOH, if you go to Dearborn, Mich. or New Jersey or Brooklyn you'll see plenty of self-employed, hardworking muslims (and other immigrants). I would guess that the US figure for muslim "strivers" is several times higher than that for the Amsterdam strivers.
To the rest of the world, I say, send your resenters and jihadists to Europe. And keep sending your strivers to the US. (Especially to sh-tholes like Jersey City or Dearborn MI, where a bit of hard work and entrepreneurship is worth more than millions in enterprise zone credits.)
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RWV:
Admit that you are a member of Bush's "Islam is peace" shit-fraternity. What part of this Koranic dictate to all, todo, tout le monde, 100% of Muslimes don't you understand?: "Jihad is prescribed to you."
Italy's Interior Minister Giuseppe Pisanu visits Libya on Sunday to begin implementing a landmark agreement on curbing illegal immigration to the EU. The deal was reached last month between Libya's Colonel Gaddafi and Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi. The EU cancelled its embargo last week on selling military equipment to Libya, allowing Italy to provide supplies for joint operations with Libyan police. These include night-vision equipment, military vehicles and helicopters. Naval and coastguard personnel from both countries will also patrol together.
Libya's thousands of kilometres of desert and maritime frontiers are difficult to police, but both countries have a strong interest in bringing the flood of illegal immigrants from other parts of Africa to Libya under control. Mr Pisanu told the Italian parliament recently that up to a million Africans and Asians were waiting on Libyan soil for sea transport to Italy provided by people-smugglers. Similar agreements signed by the Italians with Tunisia and Albania have drastically reduced the number of arrivals of illegal immigrants seeking entry into the EU from those countries. The problem of deterring illegal immigrants from third countries who transit through Libya is more complex to solve.
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Very few Germans have heard of it, but there is a case slowly working its way through the administrative courts that could strongly influence Germany's strenuous and popular efforts to deal with what officials consider a threat from Islamic militants living here. The case has been filed by Hizb ut-Tahrir, or Party of Liberation, an Islamic group with members in many European countries. Its overriding objective - if far-fetched - is to unite the entire Muslim world under a single caliph, or supreme theocratic leader, reviving a system that has not existed since the early decades of Islamic history. While the group freely operates in several European countries, with its largest membership, its supporters say, in Britain, it was banned two years ago in Germany by the interior minister, Otto Schily, who accused it of "spreading violent propaganda and anti-Jewish agitation." The group is seeking to overturn that ban in Federal Administrative Court in the eastern German city of Leipzig, which reviews decisions by government ministries.
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The case has been filed by Hizb ut-Tahrir, or Party of Liberation, an Islamic group with members in many European countries. Its overriding objective - if far-fetched - is to unite the entire Muslim world under a single caliph, or supreme theocratic leader, reviving a system that has not existed since the early decades of Islamic history.
That sort of agenda should be a one way ticket to jail or deportation. If we go through any more 9-11 or 3-11 atrocities, it may need to become an E-Ticket for the needle.
A controversial author invited to speak at the Army's annual professional development symposium in Europe next week has offered to cancel his appearance in the wake of a German boycott of the event. Ralph Peters, a retired Army lieutenant colonel, a writer and frequent lecturer on military affairs, is slated to speak at U.S. Army Europe's three-day Land Combat Expo on the future of warfare. "I have made an offer to withdraw, if that's what USAREUR thinks is best. And there will be no hard feelings against USAREUR on my part," Peters told Stars and Stripes on Thursday. "The important thing is the expo," he added. "It's not me, it's not the German tanks. It's the troops."
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I didn't realize that Ralph Peters was so eloquent. Amen. The sooner we shake the German mud from our boots the better. Move our troops to some of the countries worth defending like Poland, Italy, Hungary, et al. It wouldn't hurt to have some troops in the Ukraine either. Germany is a decomposing corpse and there's no good reason to defend the maggots. They can't even build good cars anymore.
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The Germans wouldn't make a good pimple on Ralph's (well, you know). If they had any smarts, they would listen to Ralph and learn something meaningful.
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Reading the whole article all I can say is - Gee, Ralph, tell us what you really feel, don't hold back.
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"This just proves they still have a deep fascist streak,” Peters said. “It’s really a shame that none of my books are in print in Germany, because then they could burn them like they did in the 1930s.”
Yeah this is the guy I would invite to a U.S.-German friendship meeting...
Oh RWV, the German maggots still build rather good cars:
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Hell all I can afford is this. At least it's German designed, kinda.
No that is not my back yard. I just bought it and have yet to get it home and given a good cleaning.
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I ain't for moving crap. I am for dowsizing some and bringing the ones cut home. We built all the infrastructure lets use it. The ones left over can move where it's warmer like along the mexican border. I am not for tossing the baby out with the bath water.
EFL
During his speech, Carter called the war in Iraq one of the most "gross and damaging mistakes our nation ever made." I can think of another "gross and damaging mistake" our nation made.
Carter said he does not usually endorse any candidates from the Democratic Party before the conclusion of the primary elections but that he has always supported Democratic candidates in general elections. If his wife Rosalynn Carter were hypothetically to run for office on behalf of an independent human rights party, Carter said, he would vote for her. If he were running for office this year, Carter said, his platform would be based on making the nation worthy of being titled a "superpower." History demonstrates Jimmy Carter can solve the world's problem of America being "hyper-power" in a single four year term.
"Justice, peace, freedom, democracy, human rights, environmental quality and the alleviation of suffering — that's what I would propose that every American, and not just Democrats and not just Republicans, work to achieve as a well-deserved reputation for America," he said. Carter responded to personal question as well. He said his two favorite movies are "Casablanca" and "Fahrenheit 9/11." He also agreed to a photo opportunity request from a member of the audience, despite saying that he dislikes such requests.
Casablanca and Fahrenheit 9/11?
Perhaps Mr. Carter should have another look at Casablanca. Look at the character of Victor Laszlo.
I saw Casablanca, too, Mr. Carter. Casablanca's one of my favorite movies, too, maybe my very favorite. And Mr. Carter, you are no Victor Laszlo.
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âThe Carter Center is a legally married partner with Emory University,â he said. âWe are very close together, [and are] bound by an official contract.â
That would explain why he still gets a podium.
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In response, Carter made the distinction that while he does not âendorseâ gay marriage, he feels a union between people of the same sex âought to be blessed by governments and by the general society.â
Somebody want to explain why he blesses it but doesn't endorse it? Language lessons from Bill Clinton? ["I did not have sex with that woman."]
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The best thing to be said of Jimmy Carter in his post-Presidency years: "Isn't he off building low cost igloos for the Eskimos or something?"
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Well I'm not giving a dime for anything related to this jackass. Take that you miserable excuse for an ex-president. Go get a hammer and sickle (perhaps the North Vietnameses flag would be better or perhaps a flag of surreneder) and wave it on your Georgia plantation you elitist dickweed.
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yass... given your fine record in protecting America, I'd certainly take your advice.
San Diego County Supervisor Bill Horn is trying to change California law so that voters need to prove their citizenship when voting. He calls it a no-brainer. Others call it discrimination. "It is specifically, I believe, targeting immigrants who have become citizens of the United States," said Jess Durfee, chairman of the San Diego Democratic Party.
Help me here, naturalized Rantburgers. I was born here, so I don't know if I'd be "suppressed" if I had to show proof of my shiny new citizenship. Would any of you have a problem showing the election judge lady your (hmmm...I just realized that I have no clue how one "proves" one's citizenship. I guess I'd bring my passport, but not everyone has one of those.)
I'd require everyone to have proof of citizenship prior to getting a voter registration card in the first place, but I'm just an evil, oppressing straight white male so what do I know?
He said it is a tactic to help keep evil Republicans in office. "We know that their strategy nationwide is to suppress the turnout because the more they can suppress the turnout the better it works for them," Durfee said. But Horn said the issue is fraud. "In L.A. you had 16,000 voter cards that were found with names on it of people who didn't exist in the phone book."
That's not a strong argument. I'm not in the phone book in my district, and I have a voter card...
To register to vote in California you need only a driver's license and the last four digits of your Social Security number. To actually vote, you need only a name and an address. Seventeen other states require identification to vote, and Arizona has a measure on the November ballot that would require proof of citizenship. However, changing the voting law in California is an uphill battle. In the last legislative session, a measure requiring voters to have identification never got out of committee. When suppressing illegal votes is a problem, "we are very far from reality" - to paraphase a renowned commentator. I call for surpression of the voting rights of the deceased as well.
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I can't see the problem. I have a voter registration card which I always present to the voter check-off ladies at the poll without being asked.
It makes things go faster. They don't have to ask me to spell my name, etc.
I honestly don't see what the big deal is.
Of course, I don't have tissue-thin skin like the left does.
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Illegals don't have to go the polls to vote. The California Democratic Party casts absentee ballots on their behalf. Ask Loretta Sanchez.
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Well thats not the way it works in California in my county. You show up give your name and address they check the role and hand you a ballot after you sign your name. No id no nothing. I vote absentee now but I have never been asked for a id to vote.
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Immigrants who become citizens receive naturalization papers. Democrats just want those of their supporters who are illegal aliens to be able to vote for them.
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Others call it discrimination. "It is specifically, I believe, targeting immigrants who have become citizens of the United States," said Jess Durfee, chairman of the San Diego Democratic Party.
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Naturalized citizens have had citizenship classes (manditiory I thought) and know how to freeking register and vote. Every high school student in California has a manditory government course where they are taught all about the Constutition, Bill of Rights and voting. Don't pass the class you can 't graduate high school. Most of those new citizens would be proud as hell to show off their citizenship papers.
This is all about democrats using illegals (used to a nanny state and subsdised tortillas) to steal elections in urban California, Los Angles, San Deigo, San Fransisco, Sacremento and San Jose. You will recognize all those being spanish place names. The democrtats know how to steal elections here they been doing it for years.
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As Zhang Fei notes, naturalized citizens have papers which they keep. Native born citizens, on the other hand, (may) have birth certificates which they might never have occasion to request.
See here for a tepidly amusing tale of a native-born US citizen who never knew (or actually needed to know) her legal name until she was 64. I would think that being required to produce proof of citizenship would be harder on people like her (and maybe those naturalized Americans who've been citizens a long time) than on new citizens.
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"I just realized that I have no clue how one "proves" one's citizenship. "
In continental Europe it's done by ID cards. My suggestion would be to have a similar system. Or atleast the voter registration cards that Barbara mentioned.
Naturalized citizens may be proud to vote, but they may not like being segregated from native-born Americans for life. If there are two different ways of showing one's citizenship in each single election, very soon you'll de facto have two different lines to the ballot box.
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"I call for surpression of the voting rights of the deceased as well."
Yo! WTF! Here in Philadelphia, that's a tradition! Don't you have any respect for your ancestors????
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they hold naturalization ceremonies in San Diego at the Community Concourse by City Hall, and both parties have displays and tents to sign up new citizens. It's not hard. Should note the rest of the SD County Board of Supervisors approved Horn's motion requesting (the corrupt) Kevin Shelly, Sec of the State to incorporate these sensible measures. Without doubt, the Dem majority will not allow that to pass, especually after Arnold spanked their ass over the Driver's License bill for illegals. The Dem party is whistling past the referendum graveyard - I think most Californians are pissed off at their conduct on illegals and the old Prop 187
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I think this should be made nationwide - no proof of citizenship (via passport, registration card (requiring a birth cert. or passport to get or naturalization papers) - no vote. Period. No Exceptions.
And yes dammit it is discriminiation -- It discriminates between those (citizens) who have a right to vote and those (non-citizens) who do not have (and should not have) the right to vote.
EFL - wonder what his position is when speaking in Ann Arbor.
Efforts to secure part of the Democratic Party's Florida base may cost Sen. John Kerry support from a smaller, but possibly vital, constituency: Arab-Americans. It's possible that his handlers have decided that the jihadi vote is in the bag, regardless of what he says about Israel.
In a recent interview with The Palm Beach Post, Kerry reiterated his support for the Jewish state, including its right to built a security barrier through the occupied West Bank territory and its ability to buy advanced weapons, such as "bunker-busting" bombs. Israel used such a bomb two years ago to assassinate a terrorist leader in the Gaza Strip, but the explosion also killed 15 civilians, including children and some gerbilsand bunnies and baby ducks. Kerry approves of military purchases as long as the US miliary is not the buyer.
Kerry also said that, although he would encourage movement toward a peace plan between Israel and the Palestinians, he would not do so "at the expense of Israel's right to defend herself. Israel has to negotiate Israel's security, not the United States." Kerry's position on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict appears virtually identical to that of President George W. Bush, whom Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has called Israel's strongest supporter ever in the White House.
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John F'ing Kerry, Windsurfer.
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bunker-busting" bombs. Israel used such a bomb two years ago to assassinate a terrorist leader in the Gaza Strip, but the explosion also killed 15 civilians,
LOL. I believe the article is referring to two (2) 500 lb. laser guided general purpose booms, which targeted Rantissi the first time... he was later done in by 2 lbs of molten copper shaped by 12 lbs of go boom.
"bunker-busting" bombs. Israel used such a bomb two years ago to assassinate a terrorist leader in the Gaza Strip, but the explosion also killed 15 civilians
Jeezus Christ on a Crutch!
If they had used actual "bunker-busters" in the Gaza Strip, a hell of a lot more than 15 people would have been killed.
You clueless moron.
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Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is attempting to broker a deal with Iran to secure safe haven for a group of Iraqi nuclear scientists who were sent by Saddam Hussein to Damascus before the U.S. invasion. According to a report in the London Telegraph, western intelligence officials believe Assad is desperate to get the Iraqi scientists out of his country before their presence prompts America to target Syria in the next phase of the war on terrorism. The issue came up, according to the report, when Assad made a visit to Tehran in July. Intelligence officials say the Iranians have not yet responded. However, intelligence analysts believe Iran is working overtime to develop its nuclear weapons program. It is not known how much the Iranians can learn from the Iraqi weapons program. (Whatever the amount it's bad news)
A group of about 12 middle-ranking Iraqi nuclear technicians and their families were transported to Syria before the collapse of Saddam's regime, says the report. The transfer was arranged under a combined operation by Hussein's Special Security Organization and Syrian Military Security, which is headed by Arif Shawqat, the Syrian president's brother-in-law. The Iraqis reportedly brought with them CDs crammed with research data on Iraq's nuclear program, were given new identities, including Syrian citizenship papers and falsified birth, education and health certificates. Since then they have been hidden away at a secret Syrian military installation where they have been conducting research on behalf of their hosts, according to the report. The report also says Assad has his own nuclear weapons program and is reconsidering the offer of sending the Iraqis to Iran. There is evidence Syria has acquired a number of gas centrifuges -- probably from North Korea -- that can be used to enrich uranium for a nuclear bomb.
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Israel should be ready to face dire consequences if it intends to target Iran's nuclear installations, President Pervez Musharraf said in an interview with an Arabic language daily on Saturday, according to a private TV channel. President Musharraf said that Israel was "neither the policeman of the world" nor did it have "any right to attack Iran".
Neither has Iran any right to attack Israel.
"Israel is committing a breach of the world order. It should get ready to face horrendous eventualities if it attacks Iran," he added. He went on to say that Israel's military offensive against Iran would have negative regional and international implications. "Iran should also give up its hardline stance," he said.
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Perv needs to tighten his focus a whole lot more and pay attention to those disgruntled (or are they just gruntled?) elements within the ISI that are so busy trying to kill him. Once he's finished mopping up the mess on his own aisle nine, then he can worry about Israel.
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Iran would be unharmed and out of danger if they'd stay home with their terror and quit threatening everyone, especially Israel. The Joooos have little sense of humor about annihilation, for some reason. Perv should STFU and take care of his backyard
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Dang I hate having these Cold War Boogers hanging on to my index finger of progress.
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Pervez is going to use very bad language in public if Iran is attacked. In private he will be extremely pleased however because it will mean shift of focus of jehadis away from him.
Al-Qaida has denied any link to Muslim extremists arrested in Lebanon for planning to bomb foreign embassies, apart from a shared ideology. The Beirut daily al-Balad Friday published a statement by al-Qaida warning the Lebanese authorities that harassing "the young believers and strugglers in Lebanon will not go unpunished." "The reports about the arrest of a group that belongs to us ideologically and seeks to bomb foreign interests in Lebanon show clearly that those who work in the field of Daawa and jihad (Islamic teaching and holy war) are the ones who are targeted," the statement said.
The statement charged that rounding up Islamists in Lebanon was aimed at pleasing the United States and the Europeans who seek hegemony over the Middle East region. "For considerations of our own we have not taken Lebanon as a scene for our operations and any harassment of the young struggling believers in that country will be punished," the statement added. The paper said an anonymous caller that contacted its offices asserted that the Islamists rounded up by the Lebanese authorities "did not belong to al-Qaida but advocated its ideology."
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The statement charged that rounding up Islamists in Lebanon was aimed at pleasing the United States and the Europeans who seek hegemony over the Middle East region.
Bzzt wrong.
The arrests were made to keep several places in Lebanon from being the targets of cruise missles.
With "arrests" like this and movement of (a small number) of Sryian troops some one must have got a very specific message laced with undeniable facts.
Those someones attention was got. Lebanon doesn't want to look like Iraq. Sryia doesn't either. It usually feels free to ignore these groups.
Syria's President Bashir al-Asad is in secret negotiations with Iran to secure a safe haven for a group of Iraqi nuclear scientists who were sent to Damascus before last year's war to overthrow Saddam Hussein. Western intelligence officials believe that President Asad is desperate to get the Iraqi scientists out of his country before their presence prompts America to target Syria as part of the war on terrorism. The issue of moving the Iraqi scientists to Iran was raised when President Asad made a visit to Teheran in July. Intelligence officials understand that the Iranians have still to respond to the Syrian leader's request.
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There are no Iraqi weapons scientists in Syria. They are ah ... civil engineers ... working on an exchange project to ah ... improve the plight of marsh Arabs.
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Hundreds of Iranian online journals have been protesting against media censorship by renaming their websites after pro-reformist newspapers and websites that have been banned or shut down by the authorities. Many of the websites, known as blogs or weblogs, have also posted news items from the banned publications on their websites.
The protest was started by blogger Hossein Derakhshan, a student at Toronto university in Canada. He told the BBC that although he felt the action was symbolic, he wanted to show Iranian authorities "that they would not be able to censor the internet in the same way as they have managed to control other media". He said he was delighted with the response. The hardline Iranian press has published a personal attack on him, he said, "which is proof that the authorities must be worried by the bloggers' protest".
Earlier this month, three reformist websites - Emrooz, Rooydad and Baamdad - re-appeared in a stripped-down form after having been blocked by the authorities. One of them moved the content of its site onto a blog as a means of getting around the block. It is thought that the number of Iranians keeping blogs is now between 10,000 and 15,000. However, some recent reports have now suggested that Iranian authorities are considering the creation of a national intranet - an internet service just for Iran - which would be separate from the world wide web. This would potentially mean that users would not be able to access anything the authorities do not want them to see.
"The water's risin', boys! Take these forks and hold it back!"
But Mr Derakhshan said he and his fellow bloggers are working on a strategy to get around the intranet, using email subscription services.
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Freedom - just another thing to smuggle in.
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However, some recent reports have now suggested that Iranian authorities are considering the creation of a national intranet - an internet service just for Iran - which would be separate from the world wide web.
A U.S. delegation directly confronted Syrian President Bashar Assad -- on the third anniversary of 9/11 -- with evidence that Syrians were aiding militants crossing the border to foment deadly violence in Iraq, a senior U.S. government official has told CNN. President Bush had warned Syria before about its failure to police its borders, but the meeting with Assad -- as opposed to lower-level Syrian officials -- sent a more dire message, according to CNN Military Intelligence Analyst Ken Robinson, quoting the official. Robinson said the official did not describe what kind of evidence the U.S. presented to Assad at the September 11 meeting in Damascus attended by an influential delegation of representatives from the Department of State, Department of Defense, U.S. Central Command and intelligence community.
CNN Senior Pentagon Correspondent Barbara Starr previously reported on this meeting but it was not known until now that Assad himself was present. The government official said the U.S. representatives told Assad to stop jihad supporters from entering Iraq from Syria to battle U.S. troops and undermine Iraqi security. U.S. commanders in Iraq -- increasingly faced with a bloody insurgency -- asked Washington do something to stem the flow of terror suspects into Iraq, the official said. Interim Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, who made a high-profile visit to the United States this week, told CNN he made several trips to Syria when he was intelligence director under the Iraqi Governing Council, urging the country to end its support for suspected terrorists.
The United States told Assad at the meeting the Syrian military should cooperate directly with U.S. coalition and Iraqi forces to shut down "storefronts" in Iraq for Islamic groups suspected of recruiting and financing fighters. This is a request the United States previously has made. Assad was reminded that Saudi Arabia is now fighting an armed insurgency of its own, after years of allowing such groups to operate openly while raising cash to support their efforts outside Saudi Arabia's borders, the high-level U.S. official told CNN. And Syria could face the same consequences.
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Co-operate or face the same fate.
And with Syria, there are no border areas with unfriendlies (unlike Iraq with Syria and Iran and Saudi), Israel and Lebanon to the South, Turkey to the North, and the US to the west.
Insurgency here will be home grown - and will die quickly if we learn from Iraq and secure the borders.
Britain backed Russian proposals yesterday for international measures intended to prevent asylum-seekers using their status as a cover for terrorist activities, and to streamline the extradition of fugitives. In a speech to the UN general assembly, the Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw, said Britain would be working closely with Russia on a draft Security Council resolution, saying: "We cannot let terrorists exploit a protection designed for the persecuted, not the persecutors."
Zat mean you're sending Zakayev back to Russia?
He said the aim of the resolution would be "to see how best we can prevent those who commit, support and finance terrorism from sheltering behind a refugee status to which they are not entitled, and to look at ways to ensure the speedier extradition of such individuals". The draft proposals call for a number of sanctions that would target those on a consolidated list naming "all individuals, groups and entities" suspected of terrorism, but it did not seem the initiative would apply to many cases in Britain. The draft resolution, readied after the Beslan school hostage-taking, seems designed to target Chechen rebels linked to the separatist president Aslan Maskhadov who have been granted asylum by the British and American authorities.
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I'm stunned! A whiff of sanity from across the pond. When France adopts this measure we'll know for certain that the apocalypse is at hand.
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I would hope public or private verbal support for terrorists would qualify for having your sorry ass deported. We have a few here that should be sent away.
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The best place to look for them is Friday Prayers at Islamic centers most of them built with Soddy money. Students are another problem segment. Dearborn will be empty in a few days.
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I propose Strip Clubs (damn they wont let us built cat houses) hmmmmm yes strip clubs. "See Paradise on earth, you cannot find chicks like these in heaven".
From National Review OnLine, an article by James S. Robbins, contributing editor.
During Iraqi Prime Minister Allawi's Rose Garden appearance Thursday, President Bush referred to public-opinion polls in Iraq to make a point about how things are going. "I saw a poll that said the right track/wrong track in Iraq was better than here in America," he said, prompting Kerry spokesman Joe Lockhart to claim that the president had become "unhinged from reality." I found Lockhart's comment odd. It strikes me that polling data are a better reflection of conditions on the ground in Iraq than, say, Democratic talking points. Lately I have been looking over the results of two Iraq polls released in July and August, conducted by the International Republican Institute (IRI) and the Independent Institute for Administrative and Civil Society Studies (IIACCS). They are scientifically conducted polls with large sample sizes and low margins of error. The results are extremely detailed, and fascinating reading.
The datum for which the president courted Lockhart's ire was the response to the question, "Do you feel that Iraq is generally heading in the right direction or the wrong direction?" In July, 51 percent said right direction, 31 percent said wrong direction. An Annenburg survey from that same period in the United States did in fact show almost the opposite result (37 percent right track, 55 percent wrong track), as the president rightly observed. Thus, contrary to Lockhart's assertion, the president was well grounded in reality, very strongly hinged. Incidentally, of those who said Iraq is on the wrong track, only 5 percent said it is because of unemployment, which tends to undercut John Kerry's model of an insurgency being fuelled by the angry unemployed. He stated Monday that unemployment in Iraq is over 50 percent, and Al Jazeera reported in August that the rate was 70 percent. But polling over the summer showed unemployment typically in the teens. The nationwide figures were 14.1 percent in June, 13.8 percent in July, and just under 12 percent in August. There are of course regional variations; for example unemployment in the southern city of Umara was 35 percent in June (dropping to 25 percent in July) — but in Baghdad the unemployment rate was below the national average (12 percent in June and 9 percent in July). In Najaf the July rate was under 9 percent. Rates that high are nothing to crow about by our standards, but they make more sense than Kerry's inflated figures. Also worthy of note is the finding that average household monthly income increased 72 percent from October 2003 to June 2004, according to surveys conducted by Oxford Research International.
Levels of satisfaction in Iraq varied by region. Among the Kurds, 85 percent think life has improved since the fall of Saddam. In the Mid-Euphrates region and the south, 52 percent are more satisfied. In Baghdad there was a three-way split between better, worse, and don't know. And in the Sunni Triangle only 12 percent think things have gotten better, understandable given both the fact that they had enjoyed special privileges under Saddam, and those who are now denied those privileges are making life difficult for everybody. Naturally, the security situation is on people's minds. Around 70 percent of respondents either agreed or strongly agreed with the statements, "Life today is full of uncertainty" and "I am afraid for myself and my family." However, there were similar high scores agreeing to the statement "I am hopeful for the future," and the highest scoring statement of all was "I think things will slowly get better." Responses to these questions showed the same regional dynamics, with the Kurds being the most hopeful, but even in the Sunni areas a plurality (42.5 percent) believed things would get better, against only 29.2 percent thinking they would get worse. When Iraqis were asked what issues concerned them the most, crime ranked as the number one initial response, at 39 percent. The insurgency ranked fifth at only 6 percent. This focus on reducing crime ties in to a general result I noted citing polls in my last NRO piece, that the Iraqi police are the most respected group in the country. There is broad approval (in the 60-percent range across the board) for the government, judges, the police, the army, and national guard. Sixty-two percent rated the interim government as either very or somewhat effective, and sixty-six percent placed Prime Minister Allawi in the same category. The article continues with more results of the poll.
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Legalize Hashish and Hookers and there will be no more problems. Those people have too many frustrations to focus atleast we can ease some.
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Smoke the happy flower and practise free love. We need hippies in Iraq to save them from the wrath of "Real Bad Ass Weapons" that will be unleashed upon them if they keep on acting crazy.
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A-6334, you are way, way too agitated for 6:35 in the morning. Take your meds.
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From the summary:
âIraqi optimism and patience have somehow endured. The challenge for U.S. and Iraqi officials alike is to harness and capitalize on Iraqisâ optimism but at the same time not to overstate its significance, because there is a real potential it could swing the other way if events in Iraq continue to trend negatively.â
Why would you advise a government not to overstate a positive ideal, especially if it is a known element that could help Iraqis defeat terrorism, even if trends go negative?
I haven't read the paper but I suspect it is chock full of academism and supported by liberal concepts, such as "Shhh, don;t tell them they are doing well. They may not be in six months!"
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That poll is QUAGMIRE denial BS. Last May, a field poll found 68% Iraqi support for al-Sadr. Bullets are too good for Islamofascists. Anyone with half a brain is reading the CSIS report - "Progress or Peril" - on the QUAGMIRE. If it is beyond any Neo-cunt's perception, I'll help you read it.
From Compass Direct
.... Tomorrow marks the second anniversary of the execution-style massacre of seven staff members shot to death on September 25, 2002, in their downtown Karachi offices of the Institute of Peace and Justice (IPJ). The attack effectively shut down the IPJ ministry, with their offices still sealed by police order.
Of the two Christians who survived the attack, 26-year-old Robin Sharif remains partially paralyzed and unable to work due to a gunshot wound to the head. The other, Robin Piranditta, has been in strict hiding separated from his wife and four children since last year, while Christian advocacy groups continue a frustrating search for a country that will grant him asylum.
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This is the land that Bushâs boy, the dictator, President Pervez Musharraf, runs. Bush wants our (Christian) vote but he wonât do anything to help the Christians. Bush and the Neo-Con men want to save the peace loving pagans all day long. It is ok if Bush does not want to save the Christians, but donât claim to have Christian values. Bush is just another hypocrite (flip-flopper).
1. Dafur â is off of Bushâs radar screen (the U.N will not save the (rebels) Christians). The last I checked, the CIA confirmed the gassing of rebels (Christians) by Syria, in Sudan. Armed with the proof, Bush forces Syria to work with U.S Troops to man the Iraqi border instead of destroying Damascus. I love Bush, what a flip-flopper, when it comes to Christianity.
2. More and more Jews are been killed because Bush is playing politics and will not allow Israel to act properly. Not that Clinton was any better. There is a special place in HELL for Clinton.
3. There are too many no-go zones in Iraq. Dummy Rumsfeld forced the U.S. troops to stand down, so that killing Tater will not ruin the spin at the RNC in NY. This reminded me of what Clinton did in Somalia; fight a political war.
4. I could go on on onâ¦â¦but what is the use. End of my rantâ¦
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Israel is fervently trying to convince the Muslim authorities atop the Mount of the danger of allowing thousands of worshippers to enter potentially unstable sections of the compound, knowing that any collapse would be blamed on the Jews.
And that contains truths in microcosm on many levels.
And here I sat, thinking that this was going to be a debate over whether it would involve a D9 Caterpillar or a shoulder launch missile.
This is a major no-win situation for Israel. An independent panel of qualified architectural engineers needs to be assemble right quick in order to render an unbiased finding on this.
For those unclear on the topic, Arab municipalities are famous for illegal construction. This often manifests in the addition of extra vertical stories upon buildings not designed with any further load-bearing structural capability.
Building collapses are common in Egypt and are often caused by shoddy construction or the unauthorized building of extra stories. The last such incident was May 4, when a seven-story apartment building collapsed in Cairo, killing at least seven people.
Even more ironic is how the illegal excavations that threaten the Temple Mount are being carried on by Wakf, the Moslem trust.
As has been reported of late in these bulletins, there has been an intensified campaign in the past few weeks by the Wakf to accelerate the pace of destruction of Jewish artifacts and remnants from the era of the Holy Temple. This is being done in advance of the infamous "final status negotiations" which will be held to determine the future of Jerusalem. It is the Wakf's goal to completely destroy any evidence of Jewish claims to the Temple Mount, in order to pave the way for their ultimate attempt to severe Jerusalem from the State of Israel and the Jewish people.
The government of the State of Israel has turned a blind eye to this destruction. Hundreds of truckloads of fill from underneath the Temple Mount have already been removed and dumped. Archeologists have already proven that this fill contains remnants from the Second Temple and even from Solomon's Temple and earlier periods. The activity has not been ceased and continues with impunity.
The connections between Wakf and Nazi favorite Mufti Haj Amin Al-Husseini are well documented. So are the links between Mufti Haj Amin Al-Husseini and Yasser Arafat. That all of this is leading towards destruction of the Al Aqsa temple is supremely ironic.
One exception was the Mufti Haj Amin Al-Husseini, a member of a prominent Jerusalem family, who in 1919 led the first Arab demonstration against Zionism in Jerusalem, in which both Jews and Arabs died. The Mufti escaped to Trans-Jordan, returning two years later to head the largest economic and religious organization in Palestine. The returning culprit was appointed by the High Commissioner, Herbert Samuel, as the Mufti of Jerusalem and the director of the Muslim Wakf, a trust which controlled 12.5 percent of the agricultural land in Palestine, including thousands of dwellings and religious and educational institutions.
Haj Amin Al-Husseini's influence in Palestine was extensive. He was able to impose his absolute authority on the Arab society in Palestine, leading armed uprisings (especially during 1936-1939) that exhausted the Palestinian Arabs and stripped their society of its best members, since those who disagreed with the Mufti were murdered by his followers.
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I don't consider the prospect of collapse of the edifice disturbing at all. It's rather ugly.
The unfortunate aspect of bunches of people collapsing with it has a darwinian undertone written all over it--if the muzzies flood the place in great numbers, despite warnings, they picked their own method of destructor--it ain't SatyPuft Mashmallow Man.
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The Israelis can get the world's experts to say what foolishness the excavations are and how they are putting innocent people in danger. The Paleos and Co are not wired for reason, so no matter what is done to try to do it rationally, nothing will become of it. Memesis is right: let them bring down themselves. Look at almost every muslim country and the history of dangerous buildings and major accidents. They ignore common sense and fundamental structural engineering. Take a look at the city of Bam, Iran. The BTs want a Nuke but they cannot even build a decent building. Helllllllllloooooooooo!
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While there is much to what you say, AP, it would still behoove Israel to obtain solid documentation from credible sources. Although it would be unlikely to sway Palestinian attempts at blaming al Aqsa's collapse upon a Zionist Plot,⢠it would at least assist in a gradual process of making the outside world aware of just how congenitally deluded most Arab minds are.
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dang...I'm starting to think those guys that wrote Revelations may have had a crystal ball after all. If it falls, please don't rebuild in in 7 days. Thanks!
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Bible Prophecy says a new temple will errected on the Temple Mount. There are many groups who are wishing the thing collapses. The bigger question is who will win the reconstruction contract?
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RWW, the possible collapse has been all over the media. Whoever is so inclined to be present when the probability is at its peak, it is their choice to enter as candidates for Darwin Award.
BAGHDAD, Iraq -- In an outdoor food market under the fierce midday sun, a crowd of men and boys were watching video footage of a truck bomber seated behind the steering wheel, smiling and murmuring his last words before crashing into U.S. military vehicles on an overpass.
In a city battered and traumatized by 17 months of violence that seems to grow worse by the day, real-life horror has become the viewing fare of choice, supplanting the explosion of pornography that filled the post-Saddam Hussein vacuum.
Baghdad wakes up each day to explosions, gunfire, ambulance sirens and the clatter of low-lying American helicopters. But the ferocity of this month's violence in the heart of the Iraqi capital is unprecedented -- fierce gunbattles, car bombings that claim dozens of lives, brazen kidnappings, assassinations and barrages of mortars and rockets.
It threatens to destroy what's left of peoples' hopes for their country, which ran so high when the hated Saddam was toppled.
The horrifying videos on display or sold for as little as 30 cents apiece are all over Baghdad these days.
"Soon after the regime fell, porno discs were all the rage," said Attallah Zeidan, a co-owner of a second hand bookshop in Baghdad's Old City. "Now it's beheadings."
Before the suicide mission footage, the crowd in the Bab al-Moazam market watched footage of half buried human skeletons and a man using a stick to better display the skulls. The background music was a folk song praising the insurgents fighting the Americans in Fallujah.
"We have seen everything. What else is there?" Imad Qassim Jaweed, 30, said despairingly as he stood in line outside a passport office in the city center, shielding his head from the sun with a sheaf of application papers.
"Rich Iraqis can leave and live abroad, but most of us want a passport just in case," he said.
The Arabic expression "Khalas maleina!" or "enough is enough!" is heard everywhere.
"We are paying a lot of sacrifices. We are suffering a lot in Iraq," Interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi said Sunday on ABC's "This Week." Still, he gave reporters an upbeat assessment two days later.
"We are winning, defeating terrorists in Iraq. Unfortunately the media have not been covering these significant gains in Iraq," he said.
And Iraqis aren't seeing them.
Concrete blast barriers, barbed wire, sandbags, watch towers and thousands of armed guards make Baghdad look like a city under siege.
Kidnapping for ransom is rampant. Last week a father whose 12-year-old son was kidnapped was told by a male caller to pay $13,000. "This money will be used to buy missiles to attack the Americans. We defend the country while you're asleep," the voice said. The father paid and the boy was freed.
Body searches, alien to this conservative and proud people, are now routine even when visiting a hospital patient.
At U.S. military installations, signs in English and Arabic warn that "use of deadly force is authorized." On the east bank of the Tigris River, across from where U.S. diplomats and Iraq's Cabinet ministers work, a "no swimming" sign denies Iraqis relief from the heat.
Underscoring the hair-trigger atmosphere are the guns constantly pointed at the public by American soldiers in Humvees or Westerners' bodyguards in SUVs as they navigate through the gridlock. This sense -- that foreigners rule them and that death may be a heartbeat away -- accentuates the average Baghdadi's sense of helplessness.
Still, the city's spirit isn't completely broken.
Ismail Ibrahim's DVD rental store in Sadr City, a Shiite district that is home to about 2 million people, skips the gory videos in favor of Egyptian romantic comedies and action movies from India and Hollywood.
"We are used to being blown up and killed," said Ibrahim, 30. "There is fighting almost every night here and people rent these movies to help take their minds off the misery around them."
Shoppers thronged outdoor food markets less than a mile away from where militiamen and U.S. forces clashed Wednesday.
In the commercial al-Rasheed and al-Motanabi streets in the Old City, people seemed oblivious to the heavy gunfire coming from Haifa street across the Tigris. Street soccer is popular in the afternoons and in the commercial Karadah area hundreds of shoppers hunt for bargains from the mountains of electrical appliances imported mostly from China and South Korea.
At Firdos Square, where Saddam's statue was toppled in April last year, a billboard depicts white doves with fluttering wings.
"Now we can take off to a brighter future," it says.
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"Body searches, alien to this conservative and proud people, are now routine even when visiting a hospital patient."
And Uday's bodyguards would have just let anyone even suspect move directly to the hospital morgue after their searches.
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Nine volunteers, including three nuns, of Mother Theresa's Missionaries of Charity were attacked by suspected Hindu hard-liners in the northern Kerala city of Calicut yesterday.
Nuns? Why, that shows bravery approaching that of the Lions of the Desert!
The condition of one of the nuns, Kusumam, 43, who heads the Charity's Sneha Bhavan at Olavana, is reportedly serious with head injuries in attacks with sharp-edged weapons. All are admitted to the Malabar Institute of Medical Sciences. Chief Minister Oommen Chandy said he had instructed the state police to take stringent action against the attackers. "This is a blot on the record of communal harmony in Kerala," he told Arab News.
Yeah. I'd call beating up nuns something like that...
According to the police, two Sisters of Charity, Sherlina, 46, and Rose Merlin, 40, reached a Dalit colony to distribute rice and other provisions to the local community living in abject poverty. Six drunken men mistook them for missionaries engaged in religious conversions and attacked them.
Can't have people engaged in religious conversions, can we? What'd happen to freedumb of religion in India?
They snatched away their chains with crucifix. Their driver Saju, 30, was beaten up. The victims took refuge in the nearby police station. Those who came to their rescue, including Kusumam, Sharlotte, 43, Varghese, 39, Bernard, 26, who is a Kenyan national, and Varghese, 37, and their driver Anto, 26, were also attacked with swords and iron bars by some 35 people. Bernard was badly injured. Assistant Commissioner of Police Chakkeeri Aboobacker said the attackers were yet to be identified.
"They wuz strangers, marshal! They come ridin' into town last night..."
I'm beginning to think that the "too-tight turban" syndrome is a generic problem ...
But local residents said they were all outsiders and none of them was known to them. They said Sneha Bhavan was engaged in charity activities in the Mambuzhakkad Methal Nalucent colony for the past one and half years. The radical Hindu outfit Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), the ideological patron of main opposition Bharatiya Janata Party, has recently been active in nearby areas. The attackers also shouted slogans in support of the RSS and the BJP. There are five nuns and 50 aged and mentally challenged inmates in Sneha Bhavan. "We have no connection with evangelic activities," she said. The Hindu Aikya Vedi, the apex body of Hindu outfits including the RSS, denied involvement in the incident. "We strongly condemn the attack. It's all creation of some miscreants," Vedi General Secretary Kummanam Rajashekharan said. "But the police should investigate the circumstances that led to the attack," he said.
He means the nuns, of course...
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Real 'brave' jihadists attacking nuns.
What's next, kindergarden children? (They already did in southern Russia)
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Mark this time it was hindu extremists believing in a "Pure India". Meaning India "Hindustan" is for hindus only. They are as tolerant of other faiths as Wahabi mullahs are in Soddy. Sorry about shattering your illusion.
EFL and Spittle
The Palestinian militant group Hamas threatened on Sunday to target Israelis abroad after blaming Israel for the killing of a Hamas official in Syria. "We have let hundreds of thousands of Zionists travel and move in capitals of the world in order not to be the party which transfers the struggle. But the Zionist enemy has done so and should bear the consequences of its actions," said the statement by Izz el-Deen al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas.
The statement issued in Gaza and obtained by Reuters mourned the death in a car bomb of Izz el-Deen al-Sheikh Khalil, believed to be in charge of Hamas's military wing outside the Palestinian territories. Hamas blamed Israel for the assassination. "The Zionist enemy has opened a new door for the struggle by transferring the battle outside Palestine, in spite of the fact that al-Qassam Brigades has always been keen to keep its rifles directed against the entity in the land they occupy," said the statement, which had been broadcast earlier by the Arabic television station al-Jazeera.
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Another vote of confidence for the fence. What an excellent project that's proved to be.
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"The Zionist enemy has opened a new door..." I thought they had already opened the Gates for this sort of thing?! Hamas should instead be watching their backs, It took Isreal 12 years to kill all the participants in the Munich olympics Isreali Athlete murders; but the long arm of MOSSAD did the job!
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the difference is, this guy was a member of Hamas -- the militant wing, no less. So of course, Hamas will attack Israeli school kids in retaliation.
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Hamas hath seen only a fraction of the fury that Israel could unleash. So far the IDF has targeted mainly leaders and operatives, and has used tremendous restraint in attacking Hamas forces. Hamas better cool it before they go the way of the dodo bird.
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The assumption is that Israel did the bombing but they may not be true. It could have been a Syrian job. Syria has "asked" the Paleos all to leave. Perhaps Izz el-Deen al-Sheikh Khalil just knew too much and was silenced.
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I just read anotehr article Israel is laying claim to the boom. That changes things quite a bit. The message is as much for Syria as Ham-ass it appeass.
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2B - don't forget all those 'holy men' who could do with a cranial lead injection.
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Tony---we have discussed this a number of times before on RB. People who preach death to us (us meaning all of us) need to be taken for their word and treated as an enemy. THEY are the ones that incite fodder to suicide bomb or jihad. They are just as deadly a weapon as the jihadi, even more so, because they can leverage so many others into doing the dirty work that they suggest.
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Actually, Tony, cranial lead may already be one of their problems. You're just proposing extremely high local concentrations.
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A warlord who was the last major holdout in peace talks aimed at ending Somalia's 13-year-old civil war has stopped fighting in southern Somalia and asked to join the negotiations, a senior Kenyan government official said Sunday. Mohamed Siad Hersi, better known as Captain General Morgan, crossed into Kenya's eastern Garissa district Saturday and asked Kenyan authorities to allow him to rejoin peace talks in the capital, Nairobi, said Joseph Nyagah, Kenya's assistant regional cooperation minister.
"Yar! I be ready to negotiate, y'swabs!"
Morgan walked out of the talks in March over a dispute regarding a transitional charter for Somalia. "We ... are obviously happy that he's finally seen the need to be part and parcel of the inevitable, that there is going to be peace in Somalia," Nyagah told The Associated Press. The seven-nation regional organization mediating the talks, the Intergovernmental Authority on Development, had threatened to slap heavy sanctions on Morgan. Nyagah said Morgan was staying in a Nairobi hotel. "We're at the moment trying to find out how we can incorporate him in the peace process as various people want it to be as inclusive as possible," he said.
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How come we never hear about Warlocks anymore? Is the region not hospitable?
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Very moving. SUPPORT OUR TROOPS. They are the best of the best. They have a really tough job. It was appreciated that the Prime Minister of Iraq said thanks before Congress.
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In a reconciliatory gesture, Pakistan today lifted economic sanctions in its tribal region bordering Afghanistan imposed earlier this year to punish the local population for failing to hand over hiding al Qaeda militants. "I have realised the difficulties due to sanctions and that is why I am announcing lifting of the sanctions," Pakistan Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz said announcing the decision at a tribal 'Jirga' at North West Frontier city of Peshawar.
Thousands of shops of the major Ahmedzai tribe were shut down in Wana, the headquarters of the tribal agency, which severely affected the province when the sanctions were imposed in May in the south Waziristan area. The sanctions were slapped after efforts to persuade tribesmen to hand over or register hundreds of foreign militants failed. This was the first time in the history of the province that Pakistan forces moved in to take control of the province, which was run by tribal councils. There were growing criticisms by Human Rights groups of the strong-arm tactics used against the tribal population by the Pakistan forces.
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Al Qaeda-linked fighters battling Pakistani troops along the border with Afghanistan are sophisticated and brutal combatants who carry satellite phones and mutilate their enemies' corpses, according to a profile unveiled by an army commander. Major General Niaz Khattak, field commander in the mountainous frontier district of South Waziristan, said fighters hiding there had falsely convinced local tribes that they were waging a "jihad," or holy war, against "infidels." In the first-ever profile presented to journalists, the general who has led several offensives against Al Qaeda-linked militants this year painted a picture of hardened, well-trained, and brutal fighters with little adherence to Islamic values.
Officials suspect some 600 to 700 mainly Uzbek and Chechen fighters allied to Al Qaeda are still hiding in the area out of those who fled Afghanistan in late 2001 when the Taleban were toppled. Some of those already killed and captured had Uzbek, Turkmen and Chechen features, he said. Khattak dismissed claims by opponents of the operation that the central Asians are veteran fighters of the 1979 to 1989 battle to oust occupying Soviet troops from Afghanistan. "Among them are some genuine believers who may have been here during the Afghan jihad, but they are few," the general said. "Most of them are aged 18 to 25. Where were they during the Afghan jihad?," he pointed out during a briefing to reporters in South Waziristan's main town Wana. "They are not remnants of part of jihad against Russians, they are a new influx." Khattak described the militants as "very advanced, educated and militarily well-trained" fighters who had overpowered local Wazir tribesmen. "They started proving their dominance intellectually, socially, physically over the Wazirs and the Wazirs had to take them inevitably as their military leaders," he said.
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It is nothing new Arabs have been doing this for 1400 years. The pussies who cannot fight vent their anger on the helpless and what is more helpless than a corpse. I am sick of these Arab Pretend Braves, Musharraf just nuke the motherfuckers.
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I dunno about other people, but I've noticed a lot of media types are falling over themselves to use the word 'sophisticated' to describe Islamoid terrorists, even if it means inserting the word incongrously into sentences containing phrases such as "mutilate their enemiesâ corpses". We've been told repeatedly, mostly through the BBC, that the murderers who cut off two Americans' heads and are poised to do the same to a Brit, in Iraq, are 'sophisticated' 'politicians' who 'outwit' their Western 'counterparts' simply by being able to time their animalistic bloodbaths to coincide with conferences, summits, meetings and the like (a lot of the time these simultaneities are merely presumed to be intentional). To the LLL, a sophisticate can be a person who establishes his intellectual superiority over his opponents by cutting off other men's heads. Revealing.
FOREIGN fighters from the al-Qaeda terror network were infiltrating Afghanistan to disrupt upcoming elections, the commander of US forces in the country said today. "We see some indications that the al-Qaeda is apparently encouraging attempts to disrupt the election process," Lieutenant-General David Barno told a news briefing in Kabul. Intelligence reports indicated al-Qaeda operatives had infiltrated the southeastern Afghan provinces of Paktia, Paktika and Khost, which border the tribal areas of Pakistan, he said. "Clearly for all terrorist organisations in the region, disrupting this free election that's pending here in Afghanistan, of which they're not a part, is - it appears to be - a shared objective."
I firmly believe you should have to present proof of citizenship before blowing up your polling place.
Would a Pakistani passport be sufficient?
Pakistani security forces had stepped up a campaign to sweep out militants in Northern Waziristan, diverting forces away from the Indian border to combat insurgents along the Afghan border, Lt-Gen Barno said. "The co-ordinated efforts between the Pakistani army and coalition forces have put great pressure on terrorists inside and outside of Afghanistan." Lt-Gen Barno said the hunt for the senior leadership of al-Qaeda and the Taliban was an ongoing effort. He said Taliban insurgents were also likely to step up their attacks ahead of the presidential election. The Taliban have recently issued threats to carry out attacks on all 18 candidates in the October 9 vote. "Terrorist attacks will continue - and more than likely even increase as the election nears."
Lt-Gen Barno said militants were a "tiny, well-armed, well-funded minority" who would not disrupt the wishes of 10.5 million Afghans who had registered to vote in the election. In the south and southeast of the country, attacks against Afghan government troops continued, with nine government soldiers killed in a Taliban attack in southern Hilmand province. "At six o'clock in the morning, the Taliban attacked a checkpoint on the Herat Kandahar highway and nine Afghan soldiers were killed, one was wounded and six were abducted," said Dad Mohammed, provincial intelligence director in Hilmand. The attack followed one of the worst weeks for US soldiers in Afghanistan, after three soldiers were killed in a string of hit-and-run attacks in the provinces of Patika and Zabul.
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The only thing those Arabs are going to disrupt is the underage prostitute supply and demand in Pakistan.
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ed I think you meant the underaged male prostitute supply and demand in Pakistan.
A tense confrontation is building in this refugee-swollen city, with hardline Kurdish politicians demanding the departure of some 200,000 Arabs who settled here during a 30-year government campaign of Arab migration to oil-rich parts of northern Iraq (news - web sites). "The Arabs must go back," Azad Jindyany, director of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan's media office, said in the northern city of Sulaimaniyah this week. "This is the central policy for every Kurdish party and all Kurdish movements." Kurdish parties appear to be trying to recreate a majority they held long ago in the contested province, traditionally a multiethnic place with Christians, Turkomen and some Arabs who trace their roots back hundreds of years.
After a murderous rampage which has left around 50,000 dead and a further 1.4 million homeless, there are growing fears that Sudan's government-sponsored Arab militias are involved in a covert operation to force displaced people back into the homes they have fled, to divert international attention from the crisis. Pressure has been growing on the Sudanese government to end the year-long campaign by the militiamen, or Janjaweed, and government soldiers who have have been burning, raping, looting and killing their way across the Sudanese province of Darfur in a bid to ethnically cleanse the area of black, non-Arab Africans. The terror has forced communities to flee their homes, livelihood and families and has been labelled 'genocide' by the United States.
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Hold steady US! Don't get sucked into an African internal matter. Let the AU handle this...I'm still holding my breath on this. If they need food; drop shovels and rakes from 30,000 feet!
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From 1983 to the present the Khartoum regime has been the engine behind a genocide that has killed more that two million Christians and anamists in Southern Sudan. The result throughout the world was a ho-hum. Now its Muslim killing Muslim and the world takes notice. You figure it!
The U.S. military continues to assess that the former Saddam Hussein regime in Iraq transferred much of its weapons of mass destruction arsenal to neighboring Syria. U.S. officials said that U.S. Army Intelligence does not share the conclusion that Saddam had abandoned his WMD program before the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003. They said military intelligence has attributed the U.S. failure to find Iraqi WMD platforms or munitions to Saddam's transfer of these systems to Syria in late 2002 and early 2003.
Over the last year, U.S. Central Command has helped the Iraqi Survey Group in the search for WMD in Iraq. The group has wound down its activities in Iraq without any success. "The Iraqi Survey Group has yet to submit its final report," Lt. Gen. Lance Smith, deputy chief of U.S. Central Command, said. "Besides, who knows what we will find in two years, who knows what was moved to countries like Syria. What we know for certain is that Saddam Hussain had carried out research into an array of weapons of mass destruction."
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So does just about everybody else with half a brain.
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Can you confirm or deny that something has changed with respect to Syrian policy - or is the troop movement and terror HQ shutdowns just more rope-a-dope?
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I see a mosaic here with the Iraqi nuclear scientists being transported to Iran for "safe keeping" all part of the puzzle.
Old Spook: No need to be coy with us. Your secret is safe with us, we won't tell anyone.
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What I have not figured out...yet...is why the NCA does not spill the beans on the Syrians, and the long lost Iraqi WMDs. Apparently Mossad believes it. Apparently a subset of MI believes it. I'll bet some in the NCA circle of friends believe it, too.
One of these days, after we recover a some of the weaponized chem and/or bio, maybe the political types will let us in on why they are not pursuing the Syrians.
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Saddam made $$$$ on the WMD trucked shipments (completed at night) to Syria to the tone of $31 million paid in Euros and USD's. The majority of these chemical weapons were 'relocated' to 'Greater-Syria' which means Lebanon to Dr. Assad's Damascus' power brokers. Israel made it real clear if these weapons we moved any further southward in the direction of the Jewish state there would be a series of swift & massive air strikes to the likes of Hizballah and Syria itself.
Aside from the radical left beating this dead horse issue, due to the volatile nature of many of these chemical weapons, soon they may prove a dangerous liability in inexperienced hands.
In terms of 'how do you know?' ...don't even bother to ask.
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Mark, that's a bit illogical that Saddam made killing on shipping WMD to Syria. I mean, if you go to a storage place and put your stuff there, you not getting paid, rather the owned is getting money from you.
Otherwise, rest of it, fairly on target.
How do you know I don't know, but reading between lines usually works pretty fine.
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Personally I've thought for some time that the WMD's were either in Syria, or buried somewhere in the desert.
I can see one Bathist bastard selling these things to another Bathist bastard.
Syria is playing a very dangerous game in all this, if they don't end up getting bombed by the Israilies, then it'll be the US getting the honor.
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I don't know much about Yossef Bodansky's bona fides, but he claims to have three independent sources for the intel that Syria has the WMDs.
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I can't believe this intelligence is so hard to come by. Someone knows what happended to these WMDs. We have rolled up a lot of people in Iraq that should know their location. We know Saddam had them because he did use them on the Marsh Arabs, Kurds, and Iran during their war. I wouldn't think they would be shipped to Iran as Iran and Iraq have not been all that cozy (except with the Shite faction in Iraq). Syria is the best bet for their location. If Syria has these weapons they are playing a dangerous game. What do you make of the newsprint story the other day about the Bush administration "making nice" with the Syrian governement? I'm sure I read that sometime last week. Do you think this is an attempt to obtain these WMDs?
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People are just too damn slow or unwilling to actually think.
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1. You can't convince me that Saddam would have risked death for non-existent WMD's.
2. They're either buried in Iraq or they're in Syria. If in Iraq, the hostiles would have dug some up by now.
3. All evidence points to Syria.
4. Assad has big problems: he can't use them and he can't sell them.
5. Saddam can't buy them back.
6. Libya won't touch them.
7. He's got no way to get them to Iran. Besides, the stupid mullahs have drawn way too much attention to themselves lately.
8. He's got the U.S. to his east and his west and George Bush may be re-elected.
9. Israel is to his south and can easily reach him with nukes and would not hesitate to respond to any significant attack.
10. His best bet is to keep them hidden and dry and hope that they don't leak before his death.
Assad jumped into a lose-lose game and can only hope to extend out the game until everybody else leaves or falls asleep.
Posted by: Tom ||
09/26/2004 11:28 Comments ||
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BTW, he's not powerful enough at home to take the Libyan approach either.
Posted by: Tom ||
09/26/2004 11:30 Comments ||
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'Zarathustra', you believe what you like. As stated previously on that particular issue ...nuff said in terms of specific intelligence .
Of Saddam's monetary making capabilities, in many eye was always 'a bit illogical' but he made it a point to make money on everything he got involved with. What do you think, he just handed Dr. Assad these stock piles of deadly chemical weapons because he was a 'nice guy'?
Dr.Assad and Saddam had an ongoing profitable working arrangement over the exportation of Iraqi crude oil via the Iraqi-Syrian interconnected pipeline where as Saddam, for cash ONLY, sold his Iraqi crude to Assad for 50% below global spot price. Assad in turn 'relabelled the Iraqi crude product as Syrian crude oil and made another 50% on what he made Saddam. Then there was the very lucrative 'oil for food', the U.N. 'supervised farce in which a lot of people on a number of fronts made even more $$$
Instead of the Left pounding the dead issue of Saddam's so-called weapons of mass destruction maybe they should be focusing on Iranian nuclear weapons, which if allowed to be launched will not differentiate Right nor Left, they just make you glow.
Posted by: Mark Espinola ||
09/26/2004 15:33 Comments ||
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'anymouse'. you are on target :)
Posted by: Mark Espinola ||
09/26/2004 15:34 Comments ||
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Don, Barb, anymouse, Tom & Old spook ..you guys already know the facts, let the others (those on the radical left) dig for themselves, if it will not interfere with their currently held political agenda's concerning the upcoming presidential election.
The self inflicted blind refuse to see truth.
Posted by: Mark Espinola ||
09/26/2004 15:43 Comments ||
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So, once again we've got all the data but a failure of analysis, eh OS?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis ||
09/26/2004 16:20 Comments ||
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I still don't know why Super Hose was typing my moniker in that one time - probably thouhgt he was typing it into the main box instead of the "your name" - but Fred can tell you different IPs, and probably from diffrerent regions.
Secondarily, analysis is inconclusive on most anything unless you have the totality of collection methods. And culturally closed societies are notoriously difficult to collect against. Remember -the old SOviet Union was a conglomeration fo cultures - Syria, Iraq, and even Iran are much more culturally homogenous than the old CCCP was. Plus they are not western oriented, so they think differently. Their religion lends itself to top-down master-slave relationships. Add to that the tribalism that they have ingrained and have never shaken off. Then add the lack of individualism and democratic instututions throughout their history in the region. And on top of that there is the social stratification, and the lack of fully developed economies and the stratification and limited area of modern infrastructure in the region.
#29
Intelligence of this sort without action is irresponsible. We went to war to get rid of the WMDs - if we know where they are or what nation state has them why haven't we acted?
The state of our intel is deplorable. Why would we keep it a secret if we knew? Who are we keeping it a secret from? The bad guys certainly know. We keep it a secret because we aren't sure -
#32
Old Spook, I was trying to address a question to you and instead put your name in the wrong box. It was late, and I don't work Saturdays much. Through me off.
I know in the past Old Spook has made reference to a weapons dump. I also know that the head of Defense Imaging has offered testimony to the fact that there was truck movement from suspected WMD sites across the Syrian border on the eve of the war. Thre is also the Sudanese demand that the Syrians remove WMD materials from storage in their country. We also have had some sort of attempted chemical attack on Jordan that looks to have originated in Syrian soil.
I guess I'm just not looking in the right places because all of these elements of "the story" have been pretty hazed over. Even some of Powell's UN testimony has not bloomed into what I expected after the invasion. I remember seeing satillite pictures of production facilities in use, but I haven't seen anything with repsect to what was found at those sites after the invasion.
Posted by: Super Hose ||
09/26/2004 22:48 Comments ||
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Give this some thought:
The US intelligence Community has been grilled pretty hard about being "wrong" when they said "Our best analysis points to Iraq and Saddam as having and trying to produce WMD"
So "analysis product" is no longer acceptable - the standard now is hard proof. Excating complete evidence along with the who what where when and how of the prevenance of the intelligence is now the standard.
The press (and the left) has seen to that.
So, while analysts may have very good case for WMD in some locations - "very good case" doesn't fly unless you have hard evidence, anymore.
Less than four months before planned national elections in Iraq, attacks against U.S. troops, Iraqi security forces and private contractors number in the dozens each day and have spread to parts of the country that had been relatively peaceful, according to statistics compiled by a private security firm working for the U.S. government. Attacks over the past two weeks have killed more than 250 Iraqis and 29 U.S. military personnel, according to figures released by Iraq's Health Ministry and the Pentagon. A sampling of daily reports produced during that period by Kroll Security International for the U.S. Agency for International Development shows that such attacks typically number about 70 each day. In contrast, 40 to 50 hostile incidents occurred daily during the weeks preceding the handover of political authority to an interim Iraqi government on June 28, according to military officials.
Reports covering seven days in a recent 10-day period depict a nation racked by all manner of insurgent violence, from complex ambushes involving 30 guerrillas north of Baghdad on Monday to children tossing molotov cocktails at a U.S. Army patrol in the capital's Sadr City slum on Wednesday. On maps included in the reports, red circles denoting attacks surround nearly every major city in central, western and northern Iraq, except for Kurdish-controlled areas in the far north. Cities in the Shiite Muslim-dominated south, including several that had undergone a period of relative calm in recent months, also have been hit with near-daily attacks.
Posted by: Dan Darling ||
09/26/2004 12:08:40 AM ||
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Let me guess, another hit piece by Rajiv Chandrasekaran. Pity that in WW2, Mussolini wasn't writing for the WaPo.
Posted by: ed ||
09/26/2004 1:04 Comments ||
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The rap on WaPo man is that he stays in his bath robe at this hotel while his minons nibble at the edges for stories. He is known to be a f'ng joke in Iraq.
Posted by: Capt America ||
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Rumsfled hinted about a possible US military withdrawal form Iraq soon!
I guess the US government needs to do that to have any hope of being reelected
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