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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Taiwan President Wins Election; Opposition Balks
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 03/20/2004 21:32 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Carbon Dioxide Reported at Record Levels
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 03/20/2004 21:30 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hmmmm... Didn't we have a record number of volcanic eruptions during the past year? Why is it that only MAN can alter the environment? To hear these whiney crybabies, everything is man's fault, and everything man does is wrong. I've tried to study this with an open mind, but there's just too much whining going on.

I did read an interesting article somewhere last year that had data from a really deep ice core from Greenland or Antarctica, can't remember which, that showed carbon dioxide levels from the last interglacial period in excess of 600 parts per million - 200 ppm higher than today. Remember - these were from ICE CORES, so the Antarctic ice sheet didn't melt. Do these people think we're total idiots?????
Posted by: Old Patriot || 03/21/2004 0:19 Comments || Top||


King Kong Zoo Terror! Gorilla Ravages Tot in Rampage!
I know this story was done yesterday, but I like The Sun’s rip-roaring vintage sensationalism a lot better.
Gorilla tried to eat my head

From BRIAN FLYNN
in New York
"It was a dark and stormy night..." Actually it wasn't, but that's the classic start for awful writing, isn't it?
A LAD of three was critically ill in hospital last night after he was savaged by a crazed gorilla that escaped at a crowded zoo.
"He was a cute lad, a good lad, a boy who helped his mother..."
Rivers Noah suffered a series of horrific bites and a collapsed lung in the frenzied attack.
"Oh!" she cried. "What did the child ever do to deserve that?"
But last night he recovered consciousness long enough to tell his family of the nightmare.
"Ma?"
"I'm here, Rivers," she said, holding the lad's hand."
His distraught dad Amos revealed: “One of the first things he said was, ‘A gorilla tried to eat my head’.”
The ghost of Mr. Bullwer-Lytton just tore his hair in jealousy.
The 22st [22 stone=294 pounds but some stories said the critter was 350 pounds] beast called Jabari scaled a 16ft wall to break free from its zoo compound after it was taunted by a group of youths.
"Listen up, kiddies, Mr. Gorrilla is not your friend if you piss him off. It’s OK to torment Slavic Nazis but not real apes."
The escape caused pandemonium as terrified visitors fled screaming from the rampaging King Kong.
"Emergency! Emergency! Gorilla on the loose! Calling all cars!"
The angry gorilla grabbed Rivers, stuffed the toddler in its mouth — and sank its teeth into him.
"Hrarrrr!"
"Let go of him, you beast! Oh, who will come to my aid!"
As mum Keisha desperately tried to wrench her son from the beast’s grasp it flung her against a wall.
[Thump!]
"Ow!"
Keisha, 26, said last night: “It just came out of nowhere. I thought, ‘This can’t be happening, it’s just so unreal.’
"This is a dream, isn't it? Please tell me this is a dream!"
“I was watching this gorilla put my son in his mouth and attacking him and there was nothing I could do about it. He was biting him in the side.
"Wait! The kid said it was his head!"
"Well, maybe it was the side of his head, then!"
“When I tried to stop him he just flung me against the concrete wall. He then dropped Rivers but came back and attacked us again.
"Hrarrr! As fer youse, me proud beauty...!"
"Wait a minute! Gorillas can't talk!"
"Well, that's what he was thinking!"
“Rivers is doing okay. He’s still in a lot of pain but I think we’re going to make it through this.”
I’m normally against big tort suits, but the zoo really owes this lady.
The 13-year-old gorilla ran amok at the zoo in Dallas, Texas, for 40 minutes until it was shot dead by cops.
Armed cops are usually around in Texas. In fact, there is no other kind.
Cheryl Reichert was injured when the gorilla snatched her as she shielded her terrified children.
This one too.
Speaking from her hospital bed, she told how the gorilla suddenly appeared at the top of a staircase. Cheryl, 39, said:
"Omigawd, Harvey! There's a gorilla at the top of the staircase!"
"Cheryl, you've got to stop smoking that stuff! You have a family now!"
"We were in the bird aviary. We heard people screaming and running. At first, we thought it was a prank. Then, we heard more people screaming and running.
"Arrrrgh! Help! Murder! Police!"
People went into the bird aviary and then they ran out.
"No! Not the bird aviary! He'll find us there!"
Then we heard the door slam open.
"And there he was! Big! Dangerous! His eyes were beady and filled with lust!"
We were trapped so I threw the children over a little fence, except for my four-year-old son, Logan.
"Here! Catch!"
He was trapped behind a tree and I couldn’t get to him. I told him to stay hidden, that the gorilla had not seen him yet.
"I've got my eyes closed real tight, Ma!"
"Shuddup! He'll hear you!... Omigawd! He heard me! Quick, Logan! Say something!... Logan?"
The gorilla paced back and forth. He came right up at me and roared and growled at me and he kept pacing back and forth.
"Hmmmm....," Jabari thought to himself. "Should I gnaw on her head? Or should I have my primate way with her first? Decisions, decisions!"
And then he finally went back down the stairs all the way to the other side of the aviary and I saw a chance to escape.
"I am, like, sooooo outta here!"
So I started pulling the kids over the fence and we ran for the door. But Logan could not get down the steps fast enough.
"Logan! Snap it up, goddammit!"
The gorilla saw the door opening and saw his chance to get out and he came running.
"Escape!" the ferocious gorilla thought. "I must escape! There will be females out there! And Taco Bell!"
I reached in and grabbed my son and threw him through the door and slammed the door as the gorilla hit it.
"Get out there, godammit!"
[Spronggggggg!]
And of course this made him very angry.
"Ow! My sensitive gorilla nose! Oh! That makes me so angry!"
So he slammed the door back, slamming me against the wall and then he grabbed me and shook me very, very hard.
"'Shake it up, bay-bee!'"
He still had my arm and he just proceeded to bite it over and over again about five or six times."
"Hrarrr! Arm! I like arms!"
A boy aged ten was also injured and treated at the scene.
"Here, kid! Lemmee look at that... eeewwwwww!"
Zoo visitors told how the gorilla went berserk and escaped after being teased by the youths.
"Hey, guys! Let's go moon the gorilla!"
Witness Diana Gonzalez said: “He was banging on the door and broke it down, then he jumped out. He was growling and yelling.”
"Hrrarrr! I must have Taco Bell! And females!"
Zoo staff armed with a tranquiliser gun tried to stop the marauding beast, but could not get a clear shot.
"Bob! I can't get a clear shot! What if I hit one of the paying customers?"
"went berserk" "marauding beast", I love it, no PETA heads at The Sun.
Jabari was finally cornered on a nature trail exhibit called the Wilds Of Africa.
"It's the end of the nature trail for you, Jabari! Stick 'em up!"
"You'll never take me alive, homo saps!"
Police marksmen shot the gorilla dead from just 15ft as it charged at them — still clutching a pair of white children’s sandals.
Hmmm, doesn’t seem like a great marksmanship challenge, but I’ve never had a gorrilla charge at me either.
Deputy Police Chief Daniel Garcia said: “My officers were in a very, very dangerous situation.
"We think he wanted our shoes, too!"
“We had a huge gorilla running through the zoo. It tried to charge two of our officers so we had to shoot it. You can just imagine the pandemonium we had out here.”
"Things did settle down after he was dead, though."
He added: “We felt terrible we had to put this animal down.”
"Sorry 'bout dat."
An investigation was last night under way into how the Western Lowland gorilla escaped.
"Yes! Let's form a committee to investigage how he escaped!"
"Bob, he knocked the door down."
"But did he have outside help?"
Zoo director Rich Buickerood, who evacuated 300 visitors, said: “He scaled the wall but this habitat is among the best in the country. This blows our minds.”
and our insurance coverage.
Jabari was housed in a two-acre enclosure with six other gorillas.
... but they didn't like him.
Gorilla expert Ian Redmond last night said Jabari had NOT been trying to kill his victims.
I’m sure that makes Keisha and Rivers feel MUCH better.
"He was only nibbling on their heads. Gorillas do that as a sign of affection, usually when they're hungry, of course."
He added: “Gorillas are amongst the strongest animals in the world. If Jabari had wanted to kill those people he could have with little effort.
"We're not even sure he was armed. They haven't found the gun, you know!"
“It is very regrettable that the police did not subdue this gorilla instead of killing him.
How? Wrestle him to the ground and cuff him?
“Gorillas are normally placid unless provoked — and unfortunately it looks like this is what happened here.”
We have some 350 pound gorrillas here in Lubbock, but they’re on the Texas Tech football team.
OSCAR-winning Lord Of The Rings director Peter Jackson’s next project is a special effects-laden remake of King Kong. The original 1933 film was a roaring success worldwide.
The Sun is fun, but The Weekly World News remains my favorite tabloid. No celebrities, slick graphics or other frivolity; just straightforward sensationalism, weirdness, and outlandish fabrication inventive reporting. Lots of humor, too (and it is deliberate).
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 03/20/2004 4:01:39 AM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "It is very regrettable that the police did not subdue this gorilla instead of killing him."

It is very regrettable that THIS GUY did not try to subdue the gorilla instead of asking police officers to risk being wounded or killed by the gorilla or of having the gorilla brush them aside and kill some bystander.

Now what do you think is greatest: the strength of the gorilla or the stupidity and moral corruption of this guy?
Posted by: JFM || 03/20/2004 5:10 Comments || Top||

#2  mucky needs to put his stamp on this version...
Posted by: .com || 03/20/2004 5:15 Comments || Top||

#3  A gorrilla whent ape,and people are suprised.
Idiots!
Posted by: Raptor || 03/20/2004 6:08 Comments || Top||

#4  mucky had his say on this yesterday, he muttered something about a "Facsist Zoo Orginization",check the archives.
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 03/20/2004 7:06 Comments || Top||

#5  really, couldn't they have got a tranquilizer gun? Surely the Zoo is equiped for emergencies!!!

While I am sad for the victims, I am also sad the gorilla died, there aren't many left in the world.
Posted by: Anon1 || 03/20/2004 8:28 Comments || Top||

#6  There was an incident in the UK about a year or so ago when a poor tiger thing,could have been a lepord or cheatah though got suck up a tree,bit of an ordeal for the poor creature so the keepers got a tranquilizer gun out and shot him,what they didn't realise that he was gonna roll out the tree after being shot and he fell to the ground and died from the fall.Sad story but there you go eh.Perhaps theres a Moral to the story or something.
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 03/20/2004 8:41 Comments || Top||

#7  "really, couldn't they have got a tranquilizer gun? Surely the Zoo is equiped for emergencies!!!"

The story mentioned that the zoo staff had a tranq gun but could not get a clear shot at the animal.
The police have similar devices (they are standard equipment in Texas) but patrol officers do not usually carry them around.
However, we might wonder why the zookeepers only had one such gun handy. Ordinary prudence would seem to call for a number of them to be stored at strategic points around the facility, where they could quickly be loaned to police or used to equip several different teams from the staff.

I'm pretty sure there will be a comprehensive investigation.
Texas has strict laws governing the handling of potentially dangerous animals and there will undoubtedly be some lawsuits as well.
The zoo will also have to take some strong measures to restore public confidence.

Many years ago, in 1976, vandals broke into the zoo in Clovis, New Mexico (just across the Texas line) and released a number of animals. These included some very dangerous species, such as a Bengal tiger and a couple of bears.
The animals wandered all over the downtown area before the mass escape was discovered, but a posse of zoo-keepers, game wardens and the local police managed to round them up before daylight with no injuries on either side.

The sole exception, believe or not, was the zoo's Tasmanian devil, which climbed a tree on the courthouse lawn and refused to come down. The foliage was too thick for a tranq shot from the ground and also blocked any approach from a ladder. Eventually a city crew trimmed away enough branches for a game warden to dart the critter from a fire department ladder.
Firemen were ready to catch it in a net, but it simply went to sleep still clinging to the branch. It was gingerly plucked from the tree and sent back to its cage to sleep it off.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 03/20/2004 9:41 Comments || Top||

#8  BTW, I keep a dangerous animal around the house, Roswell the Atomic Poodle.

He is 13 years old and only weighs 8 pounds, but he fancies himself a mighty hunter and war-dog. He makes a regular practice of chasing ground squirrels and sometimes, even in advanced old age, he manages to catch them.

He eradicated one squirrel tribe that had the nerve to invade my property a couple of years ago, and still picks off the occasional scout from neighboring vermin communities, along with a careless mouse now and then.

He also serves as an effective early warning system for missionaries or scammers, putting up a ferocious din when these approach my door.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 03/20/2004 9:53 Comments || Top||

#9  Is it just me, or was Fierce Creatures the most under-rated comedy of the past ten years?
Posted by: Pete Stanley || 03/20/2004 12:09 Comments || Top||

#10  The sick little twerps that were tormenting magnificent Jabari should be put into his cage and left to rot. What a pointless tragedy. There was nothing in the post yesterday indicating that Jabari had been aggressed against, but I knew it had to be something like that because Gorillas are generally peaceful creatures. They should be understood and respected, not tormented! I hope they catch and prosecute the bastards--the ones who are really responsible (and NO! I don't care how old they are). This story really bums me out.
Posted by: ex-lib || 03/20/2004 13:29 Comments || Top||

#11  The police have similar devices (they are standard equipment in Texas) but patrol officers do not usually carry them around.

Indeedy. At one less than notable time in my life I used to transport horsies from FL. to NC. I kept a major supply of Thoraziene in the cab, because insane horses make me real tense. I was just happy knowing it was there.

Posted by: Shipman || 03/20/2004 14:59 Comments || Top||

#12  Ex-lib, you're right.
I'm here at Gorilla Ground Zero and the word was that children had been allowed to taunt and abuse the gorillas with pea shooters and water guns on a regular basis.
Apparently, Jabari finally had enough!
(I didn't know anybody went to the zoo in Dallas--it's pretty crummy, but apparently it was packed yesterday after the incident. Go figure.)
Posted by: Jen || 03/20/2004 15:10 Comments || Top||

#13  this isa not funy. those kid should be prosecute. that all i have to say about that for now as i say my piece yesterday. im going to bed.
Posted by: muck4doo || 03/20/2004 15:23 Comments || Top||

#14  muck4doo: this isa not funy. those kid should be prosecute.

I agree with muck4doo on this. I suspect the gorilla was provoked. Going forward, what they need to do is mount cameras (hooked up to computer storage) that monitor what visitors do to the animals. If the animals are provoked and an incident occurs, the culprits should be booked on charges of animal cruelty. The cameras will also help the zoo to defend itself if any incidents occur.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 03/20/2004 15:37 Comments || Top||

#15  News late today (Saturday) indicates someone may have left a door open; the 15 - 16 foot high walls should have kept him in - unless the perps dropped him a rope ladder! And does anyone have the link to the news video from a few months ago of the bear being tranq'd out of a tree? The police were worried the bear would be injured, so they put a trampoline under the tree. Yup - down, up, and back down (outside the trampoline) in a big way!
Posted by: OldeForce || 03/21/2004 1:15 Comments || Top||


Singapore unbans chewing gum
OK. OK. Before anyone gets too excited - it’s only nicotine gum for smokers trying to quit.
Singapore is set to partially lift its famous ban on chewing gum this week, but those yearning to blow bubbles or freshen their breath will have to settle for a chewy nicotine substitute. Starting Thursday, the tightly controlled city-state will allow the sale of Nicorette -- a nicotine gum for smokers trying to quit. The government last year agreed to relax its 12-year ban on chewing gum to allow the sale of brands that health authorities consider "therapeutic" as part of a free-trade agreement with the United States that took effect Jan. 1. Pfizer, the company that makes Nicorette, will send senior executives to Singapore to officially launch the gum, the company said in a statement.

Squeaky-clean Singapore outlawed the import, manufacture and sale of chewing gum in 1992 because of complaints that spent wads were fouling the city-state’s tidy pavements, buildings, buses and subway trains. But gum became a sticking point in free-trade talks with Washington when Rep. Philip Crane of Illinois pressed for Singapore to lift the ban on all gum. Crane represents Chicago, the home of chewing gum giant Wrigley. Singapore resisted, agreeing only to allow sales of "therapeutic" gum in pharmacies. Critics of Singapore’s strict laws on media, behavior and politics have often cited the chewing gum ban as an example of the government’s legal excesses.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 03/20/2004 12:03:12 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Chewing gum is a bane. I'm not advocating death to chewers. Not quite. But an arm perhaps.
Posted by: Lucky || 03/20/2004 0:26 Comments || Top||

#2  I can see why they'd do this sort of thing. Instead of flinging gum into the bushes or other shrubbery, people seemingly just spit it out anywhere. I see smashed gum spots on sidewalks ALL OVER.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 03/20/2004 1:29 Comments || Top||

#3  Never thought I'd say this but I actually agree with you. The selfish motherfuckers just spit it out anywhere for people TO WALK IN IT!!!
Posted by: Antiwar || 03/20/2004 10:43 Comments || Top||

#4  Yes, but when you accost the gum chewers about disposing of it properly, they just roll their eyes and say, "whatEVER".
Posted by: Dar || 03/20/2004 11:40 Comments || Top||

#5  gum chewers - why do they hate us?
Posted by: Frank G || 03/20/2004 12:21 Comments || Top||

#6  In Antiwar's world, terrorists like the IRA 'bother' people; those who chew gum and drop it on the pavement are 'selfish motherfuckers'. Priorities?

whatEVER
Posted by: Bulldog || 03/20/2004 12:34 Comments || Top||

#7  Bulldog I think you have your frilly knickers in a bit of a twist. Are YOU perchance someone who chews gum like a bovine chewing cud and then proceeds to spit it out wherever you may be? Next time wrap it in a piece of paper(like the wrapper it came in)and put it in the bin.
Posted by: Antiwar || 03/20/2004 12:49 Comments || Top||

#8  Let me see if I understand this. If I walk and chew gum in Singapore, (which would test my limited coordination) will I be subject to seizure of my gum for lab testing to see whether it is Nicoret? Will the field testing method be for the peace officer to take a chomp on my ABC gum to try an identify the flavor.

In Singapore is it legal to use any of the following mouth related products - snuff, floss, whale blubber, jerky, Altoids, lollypops, khat, throat Lozenges or Ricolah? Why are cigarette butts OK to fling while gum chewing is evil? What is the policy on open-mouthed kissing?
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 12:55 Comments || Top||

#9  Flatulence, burping, coughing, spitting and chewing are better controlled by social stigma, encouragement of manners and hygiene education than by ordinances. That said, I do not run my hands under the tables of McDonalds.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 12:59 Comments || Top||

#10  So is that how you really feel, Anti? Who cares if hundreds of thousands of those little brown people in Iraq were tortured and murdered by Saddam. But woe to the selfish m*****f***** who dare inconvenience you by tossing gum on the sidewalk!
Posted by: Dar || 03/20/2004 13:22 Comments || Top||

#11  "Antigum" from now on.

Oh, Anti, there's only one bovine round here, and it ain't me, Daisy.
Posted by: Bulldog || 03/20/2004 13:37 Comments || Top||

#12  Super Hose: In Singapore is it legal to use any of the following mouth related products - snuff, floss, whale blubber, jerky, Altoids, lollypops, khat, throat Lozenges or Ricolah? Why are cigarette butts OK to fling while gum chewing is evil? What is the policy on open-mouthed kissing?

I believe Singapore imposes big fines for spitting and littering as well. Articles in the NY papers (during Michael Fay's vandalism trial) mentioned fines in the hundreds of US dollars per incident. As to open-mouthed kissing, I doubt it - I've heard, strangely enough, that prostitution is legal there.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 03/20/2004 13:37 Comments || Top||

#13  Dar think about the thousands of people killed by your hero(sarcasm)Bush. Bullshit, I think your more cow poo than cow. Well I'm leaving to read my book and no it's not Fox in Sox it's Saddam:Iraq's Most Illustrious Leader.(Ha Ha only joking that book doesnt actually exist I made it up)hope no one has wee'd themselves. I am actually reading a biography of Marie Antoinette.
Posted by: Antiwar || 03/20/2004 13:55 Comments || Top||

#14  Antiwar: Dar think about the thousands of people killed by your hero(sarcasm)Bush.

Actually, I prefer to think about the millions killed by my heroes Truman and Roosevelt - 500,000 Japanese civilians and 2 million German civilians, in addition to millions of German, Italian and Japanese troops. Bush needs a higher body count before he can move up in the pantheon of heroes.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 03/20/2004 14:04 Comments || Top||

#15  The point of my previous comment is that pointing to numbers of dead people won't sway anyone. The question is always the context in which they were killed. Saddam invaded two countries in a region with 2/3 of the world's oil supply and had the oil resources to rebuild his military to pose yet another threat. The campaign in Iraq was to Desert Storm, what WWII was to WWI - the resolution of a longstanding problem. Germany got to rebuild its military before starting WWII - Iraq never got its chance, and the world is better for it.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 03/20/2004 14:09 Comments || Top||

#16  I am actually reading a biography of Marie Antoinette. Your mentor with respect to political science? Is it a harlequin edition.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 15:24 Comments || Top||

#17  I've heard, strangely enough, that prostitution is legal there.

Prostitution and brothels are legal in Singapore.
Posted by: phil_b || 03/20/2004 15:55 Comments || Top||

#18  Maybe sugar-filled gum was ruining the prostitutes' teeth.

Singapore will remain forever ignorant of whether chewing loses it's flavor on the bedpost overnight.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 16:07 Comments || Top||

#19  Antigum--So enlighten me here. Fighting a war is never justifiable, in your opinion, because people can get killed? Is nothing in your little world worth fighting for, worth defending with your life? Is leaving Saddam in power so he can continue to tyrannize, torture, rape, and murder thousands of Iraqis preferable to risking even one life? As long as you're not directly affected, is it okay for people to be imprisoned, shocked, beaten, and shot out of hand by a brutal regime while you go shopping for new shoes, laugh over wine and dinner with your friends, go for a scenic drive in the country, and dance with your beau at a nightclub?

What if you weren't so lucky and privileged to have been born in a Western nation? How would *you* feel about your family being imprisoned and tortured because a jealous neighbor claimed you uttered an anti-Saddam slur? How would you feel while watching your sister being raped by guards and watching your father being beaten before your eyes knowing that the West has such vast military power and capability to liberate you but won't lift a finger because they value their own lives more than yours?

Yeah, I know: whatEVER. You reserve your outrage for the gum chewers who dare make your life inconvenient.
Posted by: Dar || 03/20/2004 16:10 Comments || Top||

#20  AntiW please put down the posited book/s and walk into town, speak in a civilized manner to your fellow citizens and have a decent cup of coffee/tea. You will feel much younger. You will seem less the Odd Duck with every trip.


Posted by: Shipman || 03/20/2004 16:34 Comments || Top||

#21  Singapore will remain forever ignorant of whether chewing loses it's flavor on the bedpost overnight.

Never mind Singaporeans - I've never tried that before. I'll see if my better half will put up with that.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 03/20/2004 19:20 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Rioters protesting liquor sale attack Bahrain restaurant
Two Saudi-owned cars were completely burned and five others damaged on Wednesday night when youngsters rioting against the sale of alcohol in Bahrain attacked a restaurant in the Al Burhama suburb of Manama, local English daily Arab News reported. About 40 Bahraini youth armed with sticks and knives entered the La Terrasse restaurant demanding that some 42 customers leave before they attacked staff and began to break and loot the restaurant and parked cars. "Why do you drink?" they shouted, according to eyewitnesses.
Why do you riot?
Three people were injured in clashes at the restaurant after one of the customers managed to wrest a knife from one of the attackers and stabbed him with it. The attacker, identified as 19-year-old Bahraini Abdullah Ahmed Al Saad underwent an emergency operation to stop bleeding from a wound in the stomach. He was said to be in stable condition.
Darn it.
One of the restaurant's employees, South African Serge Paly, suffered a minor head injury, and a woman was treated for shock. Fourteen staffers were in the restaurant at the time of the attack. The rioters then set two cars ablaze and smashed the windows of other parked cars before police arrived. J.J. Bakhtiar, a French co-owner of the restaurant, told Arab News the customers were mainly GCC nationals. The estimated damage was in the region of 5,000 Bahraini dinar, but Bakhtiar said the attackers damaged more than property. "I doubt that I will continue to operate in Bahrain after what happened," he said.
"I'm moving to Dubai. These people are crazy!"
"Customers are afraid, and I had to spend all day today convincing the customers who had reserved places at the restaurant that it was safe for them to come here and enjoy a meal".
"... when it patently wasn't."
Bakhtiar, who had invested more than 500,000 dinar in the restaurant, refused to allow Sheikh Abdullah Al Aali, the legislative and legal affairs committee vice-chairman in the Bahraini Parliament, to inspect the damages. "The members of Parliament are the ones who provoked these attacks, inciting the youth with their hardline views," he said. "They are shooting themselves in the foot by driving investors away". Al Aali was later quoted as saying Islam was a religion of tolerance and peace and had nothing to do with such "cowardly attacks".
They keep repeating that mantra, even while running around with guns, bombs, knives, bludgeons...
He urged the youth to be rational and to stop rioting "for the sake of the country's image".
Not because they should attend to their own business and leave others alone...
The clashes began earlier in the night when a group of about 40 young men attacked a home of Asian alcohol distillers in the Khamis area. They broke the alcohol bottles but fled when riot police arrived. The group later clashed with riot police in Sanabis village on the outskirts of Manama City and police used tear gas to keep the rioters from reaching the main roads and endangering the lives of people and property. The clashes continued well into the early morning hours of yesterday before leading clergymen and municipality officials intervened to end the standoff. The Ministry of the Interior said it had arrested some of those involved in the rampage and was investigating the motives behind the attack. In a statement, it said there would be zero tolerance for saboteurs.
Posted by: Fred || 03/20/2004 2:43:04 PM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sounds like the local AA militant yut.
Posted by: Shipman || 03/20/2004 20:18 Comments || Top||

#2  "Why do you drink, why do you smoke rope, why must you live out songs that you wrote" they shouted, according to eyewitnesses.
Posted by: Hank c/o J Beam || 03/20/2004 20:21 Comments || Top||

#3  Looks like it will be harder to obtain quality grub and a little of the high life in Mananamabanana.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 20:38 Comments || Top||

#4  I know Um Kasar is a deep water port. I was watching the History Channel and it looked like there was plenty of dock space. I wonder if they would want to host an American Naval Base.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 20:41 Comments || Top||

#5  If they want to stop this kind of thing, they need to stop feeding these kids that old-time Islamist poison at school.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 03/20/2004 22:49 Comments || Top||


Scenes in a Mall
My 15-year-old niece recently related an event she witnessed at a local mall. She was walking around with her friend in tow, when she happened upon a girl possibly in her late teens or early twenties being followed rapidly by a lady fully covered in her niqab and the gloves to go along with it. Just as the girl got to within a few steps of my niece, the lady following her got her attention by exclaiming rather loudly, “Excuse me sister. Can I talk to you?” When the girl turned around and faced the lady with a questioning look on her face, the lady began. “Young sister. You have a beautiful face, and you are certainly very attractive. But your face is uncovered, and that is not the right thing to do. It is not religious and attracts needless attention from strangers, and that is very inappropriate, especially with so many males around.” She continued, “You must veil your face completely when you are out in public. Your beauty is your property, and not for others to see. Even your hands must be gloved to minimize any unwarranted attention. That is the right thing to do.” The girl, who was wearing an abaya and hijab, until this moment had been quiet and staring at this hooded lady rather quizzically. Then she politely responded, “Thank you, sister, for your concern, and God bless you. But I need to see your face to know who you are.”

“No, that is of no concern. Accept my words as advice from one who is older and more learned,” replied the lady.

“But I have to see you. I know that voice, and it is very familiar. I must see your face. I have heard this voice before, and I know it. I must know whom it belongs to. I must, I must.”

The lady in the niqab was quiet for a few moments. Furtively looking around to make sure there weren’t any curious males staring and apparently satisfied that she was safe, she slowly unveiled her face to the girl. “Well, if you insist, but see, you don’t know me.”

Barely had she a chance to finish her sentence as her veil came off, when the girl spit forcefully on her face and roared, “Don’t you or your kind ever bother me again with your sermons and intrusions,” and with that she was off, leaving behind a dejected-looking lady and two bewildered teenagers aghast at what had just transpired.

Upon hearing of this event, I wondered if this is where we are heading to? Bi-polar extremism? Where has the middle ground for tolerance and acceptance disappeared? Is there hope, or is it too late?
Posted by: tipper || 03/20/2004 11:36:54 AM || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That 15 year old niece must have a photographic memory.
Grain of salt.
Posted by: Les Nessman || 03/20/2004 12:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Cat fight?
Posted by: Lucky || 03/20/2004 12:50 Comments || Top||

#3  "Accept my words as advice from one who has a lot of trouble getting any. Ever."
Posted by: ex-lib || 03/20/2004 13:19 Comments || Top||

#4  Upon hearing of this event, I wondered if this is where we are heading to? Bi-polar extremism? Where has the middle ground for tolerance and acceptance disappeared? Is there hope, or is it too late?

Extremism? Bravo young lady!
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 03/20/2004 16:39 Comments || Top||

#5  This is just one scene from my next musical, yep: Mall Fair Lady.
Posted by: Shipman || 03/20/2004 20:24 Comments || Top||

#6  I wonder whether the story is factual or embellished. If it is true, I am more interested in whom the 15-year old niece considers to be the protagonist of the episode. Her thoughts might be indicative of where Arab society is headed.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 20:51 Comments || Top||

#7  Story doesn't tell you what country this was in.

Probably this is embellished but it may have a factual nugget.
Posted by: mhw || 03/20/2004 22:10 Comments || Top||

#8  If I had been engaged in creative embellishing, I would have had the young girl have bronchitis so that the spittle could have been more visually interesting.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 22:37 Comments || Top||


Patrick Seale: Painful stings are unavoidable when a hornet's nest is stirred
Posted by: sanwin || 03/20/2004 10:45 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Standard fifth column terror apologetics, strident, authoriatarian moralizing buttressed by Goebbels-style big lies insinuated into the text, allowing them to pass into the reader/victim's conciousness without critical examination.

Didn't the wealthy authoritarian Osama bin Laden stir a hornet's nest when he destroyed the World Trade Center? No, he is enraged by western and Israeli "brutality."

Conclusion: Seale is depraved but not stupid or crazy, he identifies with his fellow authoritarians and hopes to profit either politically or personally from the success of their terror campaign.
Another bastard murder accessory for the Julius Streicher memorial chair at the next Nuremberg.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 03/20/2004 11:26 Comments || Top||

#2 
Seale is an appeaser. Here's his conclusion:
A truce must be called with radical Islam. Painful but essential political decisions must then be taken to address the most glaring Arab and Muslim grievances. The world must impose a long-overdue settlement of the Arab-Israeli conflict, a running sore which, more than any other, has infected relations between the Arabs and the west.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 03/20/2004 11:40 Comments || Top||

#3  "Above all, seeking reconciliation rather than confrontation, the west must engage in a sincere dialogue with Islam in all its forms, including the most radical."

That's nice. I'm sure we'll have a nice little dialogue with them to achieve reconciliation, just as soon as THEY decide they really, really need to reconcile with US.

AND NOT ONE MOMENT SOONER.

Jeez... what the hell could possibly be so damned obscure about the blatantly obvious?
Posted by: Dave D. || 03/20/2004 11:48 Comments || Top||

#4  I'd be willing to call a truce when we can plant the white flag atop the shallow grave of the last islamofascist pig....see? I can be accomodating too
Posted by: Frank G || 03/20/2004 12:06 Comments || Top||

#5  Sure, you can avoid stings. Just wear the right suit and bring lots of pesticide.

We will crush these insects, and burn their frail little bodies.
Posted by: BH || 03/20/2004 13:02 Comments || Top||

#6  I'd like to bitch slap this joker. They have sworn for our distruction. Whats to talk about. We've tried getting the PA to accept a peace deal 3 years ago and Arafat refused. I dont know what his excuse was, but it would have been better than what he has now.
Posted by: JackAssFestival || 03/20/2004 17:39 Comments || Top||

#7  Why would you want to stir a hornet's nest? Its not cake batter. I have utilized a number of Dow Corporation provides plenty of products that I use to help control the bio-diversity in my back yard. I don't stir bugs; I fucking exterminate them.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 21:02 Comments || Top||


Saudi Businessman Vigorously Lives by Prophet Mohammed’s Teachings
A Saudi businessman aged 64 has just made a young girl his 58th bride and says he intends to have two more weddings to bring his total to 60. Saleh al-Saiari, who has fathered 36 children, took a 13-year-old to be his latest bride a month ago and told a newspaper he was in "very good health". He said he would draw lots to decide which of his current wives he would divorce to make room for two more. ....
That's cuz he's a romantic kind of guy...
Mr Saiari told Asharq Al-Awsat that he had first married at the age of 14 and planned to "round off [his married life] with a 60th wedding". He said his spouses included both "university graduates and illiterate women" but he preferred educated wives. The businessman, who was once a shepherd, said he would "resort to the usual draw" to choose which of his current four wives to drop. It was not immediately clear what happened to those of Mr Saiari’s wives he divorced.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 03/20/2004 7:05:56 AM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It was not immediately clear what happened to those of Mr Saiari’s wives he divorced

Stoned, mercy killed, who's to say how Mr.Saiari interpets his pedophile moon god's rantings toward divorce.
The RoP is so enlightened it makes me feel warm & fuzzy.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 03/20/2004 10:13 Comments || Top||

#2  It will be a blessed day for Islam when genetic engineering can create a diembodied vagina. Why wait for a thirteen year old when Saleh can have one made fresh the same day.
Posted by: ed || 03/20/2004 11:38 Comments || Top||

#3  This explains why the Saudi version of "The Bachelor" didn't make it past the pilot. At the end of the first show, the bachelor said, "I'll marry them all!"
Posted by: Dar || 03/20/2004 11:47 Comments || Top||


Dubai--A Million Non-Murdering Muslims
Not Edited for Length. Recently I wrote some pretty harsh anti-islamic commentary in various places over the burning of the Orthodox Churches in Kosovo and the inability of KFOR to pull the trigger with actual rounds chambered...though I suppose the debate ended on the idea on the limits of force when facing a mob. Still, I do get myself in an anti-islamic fury from time to time. A Spook friend has suggested that I visit the UAE and other countries for a different perspective. I ain’t gonna visit the UAE...but I was sent the following to remind me that there are places in this world that are islamic yet throughly modern and apparently tolerant also. It is worthwhile from time to time to take a look at a success also.
This is the Mideast you haven’t seen on the evening news lately. There are no suicide bombers. No anti-U.S. protests. No grinding poverty. No mass arrests. Instead there are Silicon Valley-style office campuses, home to the likes of Microsoft, Oracle and Cisco. And white-sand beaches packed with bikini-wearing European tourists. There are also plans for the future - well-financed plans. A world-class medical complex with a Harvard-run teaching hospital. A $7 billion theme park twice the size of Walt Disney World. An underwater luxury resort. If Iraq and the West Bank represent the Middle East’s darkest troubles at the moment, then Dubai, a city-state of a million people in the United Arab Emirates, may be its brightest light. It is what much of the Arab world is not: bureaucracy-free, tech-savvy, tolerant of outsiders, happy to embrace change. But at a time when the United States plans a new effort to promote democracy in the Arab world, the United Arab Emirates has no formal democratic institutions at all.
It's got the conditions for them to take root, though. I've made the point before that we use "democracy" as shorthand for "liberty." Attempts at the former without the latter result in something like Pakland or Nigeria.
The federation, which became independent from Britain in 1971, is governed by the ruler of its capital, Abu Dhabi. Each of the six other emirates also has its own leader. Unlike gulf neighbors Kuwait, Oman, Qatar and Bahrain - and other Arab nations including Jordan, Yemen and Morocco - the federation has never held an election. There are no political parties, and the local press is self-censoring. By all accounts, Dubai’s ruler, Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al Maktoum - technically the crown prince - is revered as the architect of the emirate’s success. Indeed, many argue that democracy would have only impeded the blistering pace of Dubai’s modernization. Supporters also point out that the sheikh’s government doesn’t operate like a dictatorship. It is seen as extraordinarily responsive to outside input.
They didn't piss away all their money exporting mosques and holy men all over the world like the Soddies, or exporting world revolution like Muammar tried to do.
Still, Dubai’s model raises hard questions about whether economic liberalization is more important than political reform as Arab nations seek to lift themselves from poverty and overcome the forces of Islamic extremism. "If we had an election, nothing would change," said Suhail al Ansari, marketing manager for Healthcare City, a proposed government-sponsored medical campus to serve those who now go abroad - at government expense, if they are citizens - for care. "The crown prince... motivates his people and ensures that they share his vision."
Which is an example of Theory Y management done right. Somebody's got to drive the boat. The trick is getting everybody on board...
One hears a lot of talk like that from people in Dubai’s government. They sound like loyal lieutenants of a corporate mogul - which is really what they are, since Sheikh Mohammed runs the place like a privately held conglomerate. And, although the Maktoum family is said to be worth $10 billion, there are no whispered accusations of corrupt enrichment, as there are in Saudi Arabia.
Y'think the problem might be that the money all goes to the princes, who bestow it on the common folk as largesse, if they feel like it and if there's any left after they spend their money on attempts at world domination?
Residing in a port city at a crossroads between Europe and Asia, Dubai’s people have a long history as traders, subdued in their Islamic faith and comfortable with foreigners. The city’s modern prosperity is built in part on the re-export business - buying goods from one country and selling them somewhere else. Oil is part of Dubai’s wealth, but the emirate does not have nearly as much as Abu Dhabi. In the early ’90s, Dubai realized that its white-sand beaches and turquoise waters could be a major tourist draw. Resort hotels sprang up along the shore, including the 60-story, spinnaker-shaped Burj al Arab, where each floor comes with its own butler. Ever more elaborate shopping malls - there are 30 and counting - are popular after-sun tourist destinations. Nearly five million people visited last year. But this might be just the beginning. At least 100 more hotels are planned. Two proposed malls will compete to be the world’s biggest. Emirates Air is launching nonstop service from New York. And yet, even as the tourist push was bearing fruit, Dubai’s leaders decided in the mid-1990s that what they really needed were information industries. So, on an empty desert near the beach, the government built Dubai Internet City, a palm-fringed, $500 million office park that now rents space to about 600 technology companies. Launched in 2000 after the tech bubble had burst, Internet City became the forerunner of a concept now central to Dubai’s development - the free zone, where foreign companies can have 100 percent ownership, zero taxes, and easy interfacing with the government.
They're not camels to be milked. Interesting concept. In return, they provide salaries to people who can be taxed. The idea of taxing corporations, then taxing their dividends never did make sense to me.
A plush red carpet leads into the entrance of the building that houses Internet City’s central office. Stenciled on the carpet are two lines in English, Dubai’s language of business: "Everyone’s a VIP at DIC" and "Red Carpet, Not Red Tape." In the lobby, Arab women in head coverings sip cappuccino and talk business with Indian men in suits. People from 182 countries work here, a multicultural scene that, duplicated all over town, reinforces the perception that Dubai is a cutting-edge city of the future. "If you shoot us an e-mail and let us know you are coming, we can do your visa for you, pick you up from the airport, book the hotels, give you an office, give you telecom service, incorporate you, and register you as a company, arrange your driver’s license - all in one place," said Omar bin Sulaiman, Internet City’s U.S.-educated chief executive officer.
Very efficient. I understand it doesn't work that way in Soddy Arabia.
A year ago, Carrier Devices - which makes a Web-enabled smart phone called the i-mate - moved its 27-person headquarters to Internet City from Glasgow, Scotland. "It was cheaper to move everyone here, give them a raise, provide them housing and health care, and pay for two flights home a year than to be in the U.K.," said Jim Morrison, Carrier’s Scottish CEO, who said he and most of his employees immediately saved 49 percent in income taxes.
It's called competition...
In January 2001, just across from Internet City, Dubai opened Media City, a similar setup for news organizations, publishers, and production companies. It now is host to 780 firms, including CNN, Reuters, and the Associated Press. The Internet and media free zones are home to 19,000 "knowledge workers," bin Sulaiman said. In April, Dubai opened Knowledge Village, which offers universities ready-made space in which to open accredited programs or branches. Healthcare City, in partnership with Harvard and Johns Hopkins Universities and the Mayo Clinic, hopes by 2010 to be the world’s largest cluster of hospital, research and wellness facilities. A free zone for financial-services companies is expected to open any day. To house its exploding population of skilled foreign workers, Dubai is building thousands of high-end condos and villas, many of them on three man-made offshore islands. New rules allow foreigners to buy property for the first time, and they are snatching up lots. Overall, an estimated $30 billion in real estate and infrastructure projects is under way. "You look at the latest project and shake your head, and say, ’This will never fly,’ " said Yousef Khalili, Microsoft’s Lebanon-born Middle East regional spokesman. "But it does."
Places like this will be the drivers of the real Arab rennaissance...
Like any boomtown, Dubai has its unsavory side. Terrorists have been able to launder money through underground financial networks, including some of the funds that financed the 9/11 attacks. Prostitution is quietly rampant. The country’s dirty work is done by Asian laborers who do not share in the city’s shimmering lifestyle.
The question I have is whether Dubai natives actually work for a living or perform "supervisory" work, ala Soddy Arabia. I suspect the traditional Arab aversion to manual labor holds true but that there are also demands for productivity. In the 70s, I don't think the productivity demands were there. In 2020 the idea of getting the job done might include actual exercise. I don't think Dubai has the same problem with a princely class as Soddy Arabia. Those who've lived in the area can affirm or deny...
Some observers do not believe Dubai can be a model for the rest of the Middle East.
Because it's working? There's always a reason why it won't work somewhere else, isn't there?
They doubt the extent to which United Arab Emirates nationals and other Arabs are participating in the high-tech economy. They wonder whether any other Arab country would allow in the number of foreigners tolerant Dubai has welcomed: Expatriates now outnumber nationals by 10-1.
I have the same question about local participation. If they're just bystanders, they're screwed and in 50 years the place will be a backwater again. If they're picking up the skills they'll be okay...
Both concerns are reasonable. As in the rest of the gulf, most United Arab Emirates nationals, financially secure in a generous welfare state, work for the government. The authorities want to change that and are offering private firms incentives to hire them, but foreigners grumble about their work habits, leading locals to complain of being stereotyped.
Guess that answers my question: they're screwing themselves.
There is little doubt, though, that nationals and Arab immigrants here are benefiting from the emirate’s focus on education and technology. Only 1 percent of the Arab world’s 280 million people use the Internet, compared with 60 percent of North Americans. In the United Arab Emirates, however, the figure is 31 percent, 20 percent of whom are broadband users, according to Madar Research Co. of Dubai.
Depends on what they're actually doing on the internet. If they're hanging around jihadi chat rooms they're in trouble. If they're doing more productive things — including surfing porn — things'll turn out better. Habits of insularity and ignorance die hard, though...
Opinions differ as to whether the economic success of Dubai can be replicated elsewhere in the Middle East. Delegations regularly troop through Internet City, and Egypt recently rolled out its own technology park, Smart Village, near Cairo. But no other Arab society seems to possess quite the same readiness to throw its doors open to outside influences, coupled with the flexibility to capitalize on them. "Dubai’s a complete anomaly, like Singapore or Hong Kong," said Peter J. Cooper, editor of AME Business Info, a journal of gulf commerce. "Port cities have always been more liberal." Others see signs that the Dubai mind-set is spreading. Several gulf states, including conservative Kuwait, have announced plans to build major beach resorts. All are discussing ways to diversify their oil-dependent economies. Bahrain, long a center for banking, is building a billion-dollar office complex to be a free zone for financial-services companies. "Dubai has a spillover effect," bin Sulaiman said. "If Dubai is doing something, all the neighboring countries want to do something."
Kuwait picked up on the idea that oil is a finite resource a long time ago, and has been investing in other areas using their oil dollars. Dubai doesn't have the ocean of oil Soddy Arabia's sitting on, or even that Kuwait's sitting on. Both had incentives to make provisions for the future. The Soddies, with much greater resources, have no future.
Posted by: Traveller || 03/20/2004 2:26:25 AM || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I have been to Dubai several times and agree that most of what is written is true. Dubai rocks. You can do pretty much what you like like there.

However, lets not forget that Dubai is the conduit for all the illegial money that funds the jihadi network.

Atta received his money order from Dubai.
Posted by: sanwin || 03/20/2004 10:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Dubai is pretty cool, once you get past some of most hideous architecture around. The only people-problem I had there was a rude (and inebriated) radio correspondent at one of the hotels.
Posted by: Pappy || 03/20/2004 14:58 Comments || Top||

#3  What I still like about the article is that it posits a model for Islam different than the Saudi one. It further seems to me Saudi Arabia had this option and simply took the wrong fork in the road. Now whether or not it can detour back onto a reasonably right path is the million dollar question.

Equally important is the fact that Democracy has played no role in the success of Dubai. Beleved me, at this time we don't want a Democratic government in Saudi Arabia.

Lastly, I recognize that Dubai may be atypical because it has oil wealth to fall back on...but the point remains that there may be Islamic conuntries that are not a threat. What needs to be exported is, as I always say, is tolerance and Freedom of Conscience.
Posted by: Traveller || 03/20/2004 16:58 Comments || Top||

#4  The article didn't make this point but I've read that the A Emirate now has more tourist than Egypt. Disneyland and bikinis vs. the pryramids and the Temple of Luxor.
Posted by: mhw || 03/20/2004 22:17 Comments || Top||

#5  Well, yeah. Dubai doesn't allow Islamic fanatics to open fire on the tourist trade.
Posted by: Pappy || 03/20/2004 22:22 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Haiti’s Interim Leader Praises Uprising
EFL
Sharing a platform with rebel leaders, Haiti’s interim leader Saturday praised the gunmen who began the uprising that chased Jean-Bertrand Aristide from power and even paid tribute to an assassinated gangster. About 3,000 people cheered and clapped for Prime Minister Gerard Latortue, who held his first rally in his hometown of Gonaives, where Haiti’s independence was declared 200 years ago and starting point for its recent rebellion. "I ask you for a moment of silence for all the people who fell fighting against the dictatorship, and especially for Amiot Metayer," Latortue said as the crowd went wild. Matayer was the leader of the Cannibal Army street gang, and his death sparked the rebellion.
Are we supposed to cheer the Matayer who assassinated Aristide’s enemies or new-and-improved Matayer who targeted the government?
Rebel leaders who still run Haiti’s fourth-largest city sat on a platform alongside Latortue, Organization of American States representative David Lee, recently installed interim Cabinet ministers Bernard Gousse and retired Gen. Herard Abraham, and new Haitian police chief Leon Charles. Rebel leader Winter Etienne, self-declared mayor of Gonaives, welcomed Latortue and told the crowd his fighters would surrender their weapons when a police presence is restored to the city, which had about 250,000 people before the uprising erupted Feb. 5. Latortue paid tribute to Metayer and those killed in the fighting to oust President Aristide. More than 300 people died -- dozens of them police who failed to overcome the rebels.
Sort of reminiscent of the French Revolution. Remember the stability that followed.
Metayer’s Cannibal Army gang ran the docks at Gonaives and was said to control drug-trafficking through the port. The gang also was believed to have been armed by Aristide to terrorize his opponents.
What a role model. The kids would be better off idolizing Allen Iverson.
Aristide finally had Metayer arrested last year after months of pressure from the OAS, which demanded he be tried for allegedly burning homes of opponents. Gang members rammed a tractor into the prison to free him in September, and Metayer’s bullet-riddled and mutilated body was found days later. "They took out his eyes. They took out his heart," Latortue said of Metayer.
The harder they come; the harder they fall. One and all. J Cliff.
Metayer’s brother, Butteur, assumed leadership of the gang; he claimed Aristide ordered his brother’s killing to keep him from publicizing damaging information about him. With his death prompting the uprising that brought about Aristide’s downfall, Metayer has become a hero in the town. Many feared him. Others saw him as a Robin Hood who lavished gifts on slum-dwelling Aristide supporters. Thousands of them have fled the city since the Feb. 5 gunbattle in which Metayer’s men killed several police officers and torched government buildings. Lee said Latortue’s visit symbolized "a return of authority." But Charles acknowledged the city would continue to be run by rebels until a police presence is re-established.
That is, it'll be run by gangsters, not too differently than it was before...
About 150 French Legionnaires rolled into Gonaives on Friday. On Saturday they remained behind the walls of the State University, where they set up camp. Another 200 French troops went to Cap-Haitien, the rebel-held northern port of 500,000 that is Haiti’s second largest city. In Gonaives, rebels swapped their looted police gear for civilian clothes when the French arrived, and stopped strutting around town with assault rifles. The French mission is to allow relief organizations to deliver food and medicines disrupted by the rebellion. On Saturday, as the visitors were enjoying a buffet lunch, Butteur Metayer arrived in a looted police all-terrain vehicle and laid down a dozen rusty weapons wrapped in a Haitian flag -- two machine guns but mainly World War II-era M-1 assault rifles and shotguns. "We are not handing them over because we are scared. But we were fighting against Aristide and not against the Republic of Haiti," Metayer said. Later, he told The Associated Press the rebellion could return. "Our plan is to keep working with the government, (but) if the government cannot work with us, we will overthrow it," he said.
So which one's the real government?
Latortue acknowledged the weapons handover was "just a symbolic gesture. Obviously we have weapons spread throughout the country, and many people still believe they can’t give (up) all of their weapons," he told the AP. "But the symbolism of what happened today is very important." Lee, asked how he felt about the praise for Amiot Metayer, said, "We’re trying to encourage reconciliation. Of course we don’t agree that violence should be rewarded, but I think what we see here today is an effort put forth by the citizens of Gonaives to turn over a new leaf." At the rally earlier, Latortue promised a better life, saying his government would ensure clean drinking water in Gonaives, provide medical equipment and build at least 100 homes and a four-lane highway to replace the potholed two lanes that are Haiti’s main south-north highway. People shouted they also needed working telephones and electricity. Latortue urged patience: "I cannot give you everything at once and I will not lie to you."
Fanciful ideas meet reality. Hopefully it will work. Get ready to open your checkbook.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 4:36:16 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The French are in on this one. Why don't we give them the leadership position and let them open their pocket book? They created this problem centuries ago and have done nothing to fix it.
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 03/20/2004 20:03 Comments || Top||


Trade unions denounce labor "apartheid"
EFL
The Venezuelan Workers Confederation (CTV) will visit the International Labor Organization and the Inter-American Court of Human Rights to present the cases of workers of the public administration who have been fired or threatened to be fired for their participation in the signature collection process to demand for a presidential recall.
I don’t understand how they think the court will protect or help them.
Froilán Barrios, member of the Executive Committee of the organization, said that the government has imposed a "labor apartheid" in Venezuela by "violating the right to work" of all the employees who decided to support the referendum petition. Barrios mentioned the example of the state-run electricity firms Enelven, Enelbar, Cadafe and the oil industry, as well as a number of municipal and regional governments and schools, where workers must register documents certifying that they did not sign the request if they want to keep their jobs. The workers are in a very "difficult situation," Barrios explained, because terror is being associated to work, and that is equivalent to trading with "the people’s hunger."

"Pro-government labor unions now spy on the employer, accuse their co-workers and urge them to take (their signatures) back," Barrios said. The complaint was filed during the meeting of the Committee on Freedom of Association of the International Labor Organization (ILO) in Geneva, Switzerland. After some 7,000 workers of the state-run oil company are believed to have signed the presidential recall petition, a list of 900 names is now posted in the main entrance of the headquarters of the firm in La Campiña, Caracas, so that there is no doubt about who the signers are. Although Energy Minister Rafael Ramírez has said that nobody is being persecuted in the industry, fears about imminent lay-offs grow with each day, and the measure has not been denied conclusively. "We just want the people to do their work, play their role and keep their ethic commitment," Ramirez said. However, Alí Rodríguez, president of Pdvsa, said that "it would not be surprising" if there are firings related to the recall signing.
With the per barrel price of oil headed for $50, a revenue starved country decides to lay off workers in its government owned oil company.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 3:58:33 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Daniel continues to provide insight about the deteriorating conditions in that Eden-like but troubled South American country. He posts -Venezuelan Electoral Board, CNE, gets ready for a major international break up
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 16:02 Comments || Top||

#2  Shipman, I found a Venezuelan history site that includes some information about Simon Bolivar.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 16:12 Comments || Top||

#3  Thanks SH.. Fills in part of my massive South American history gap.
Posted by: Shipman || 03/20/2004 20:30 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Chen wins in Taiwan
It’s good to see a country stand up to threats against it’s people after the pathetic display of cowardice and appeasement we witnessed in Spain. I’m anxious to see the results of the referendum on building defenses to defend against Chinese aggression.
President Chen Shui-bian narrowly won re-election Saturday, a day after being shot by a would-be assassin. His challenger suggested the attack unfairly influenced the vote and wants it nullified. Adding to Taiwan’s election drama was a separate referendum asking whether the island should beef up defenses if China refuses to withdraw missiles targeting the territory and whether to seek peace talks with Beijing. Those results were expected later Saturday. Chen won the presidential ballot with 50.12 percent of the vote, the Central Election Commission said. His opponent, Lien Chan, came away with 49.88 percent. About 13 million ballots were cast. Fireworks boomed in the night sky as ruling party lawmaker Hsiao Bi-khim addressed supporters at Chen’s headquarters, "We’ve proved to the world that we’ve won. Today’s victory is a victory for democracy and a victory for Asia." Within minutes of preliminary results showing his defeat, Lien said he would challenge the vote.
No surprise, if I lost an electon by that small a margin I’d probably ask for a recount too...
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 03/20/2004 8:45:56 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Now, I'm not so happy regarding the referendums (both failed), but ... :)
Posted by: Edward Yee || 03/20/2004 10:38 Comments || Top||

#2  Apparently the opposition took the view that they were better off not voting than to vote negatively on the referendum. They needed 50% of the population to vote for the referendum to take effect and only 45% of the population took part in the vote. But... of those 45%, 92% voted for it. If the other side did the honorable thing and voted instead of not taking part it would have been valid and thus passed in a landslide. I gained respect for the Taiwanese all around from this election. Especially considering both parties are anti-Chinese influence and only differ in their degree.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 03/20/2004 12:33 Comments || Top||

#3  His challenger suggested the attack unfairly influenced the vote and wants it nullified.

"Mr. Chan? There's a Mr. Al Gore for you on line 1..."
Posted by: Raj || 03/20/2004 12:47 Comments || Top||


Europe
Kosovo triggers media war
Posted by: TS || 03/20/2004 18:13 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  n/t
Posted by: Anonymous || 03/20/2004 22:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Toldja he'd be back. Briefly.
Posted by: Fred || 03/20/2004 23:26 Comments || Top||


New Spanish currency
Not exactly a news-link, but i could not resist this
Posted by: Evert Visser in NL || 03/20/2004 10:33:07 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I forgot to mention that i found this via: "Castle Arggghhh!!!"
Posted by: Evert Visser in NL || 03/20/2004 11:32 Comments || Top||

#2  Gives a whole new meaning to the term "funny money", Evert. Notice the seal reads, http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/. Check it out. These guys are good at parodies. I now have it bookmarked.
Posted by: GK || 03/20/2004 12:14 Comments || Top||


EU’s new tough line on corruption: arrest of investigative reporter
Police arrested a leading investigative journalist yesterday on the orders of the European Union, seizing his computers, address books and archive of files in a move that stunned Euro-MPs.
Sleaze so blatant it stuns the pros? Now there’s something...
Hans-Martin Tillack, the Brussels correspondent for Germany’s Stern magazine, said he was held for 10 hours without access to a lawyer by the Belgian police after his office and home were raided by six officers. "They asked me to tell them who my sources were. I replied that was something I would never do. Now they have all my sensitive files, so I suppose they’ll find out anyway," he said last night.
The police state’s arrived sooner than I expected.
"The police said I was lucky I wasn’t in Burma or central Africa, where journalists get the real treatment," he added.
WTF?!!!
Mr Tillack said the raid was triggered by a complaint from the EU’s anti-fraud office, OLAF. He was accused of paying money to obtain a leaked OLAF dossier two years ago, which he denies. The European Ombudsman has already come to his defence, issuing a harsh criticism of OLAF’s campaign to silence him. Mr Tillack, who describes himself as a "pro-European federalist", has been OLAF’s most vocal critic, accusing it of covering up abuses within the EU system.
Expose all the abuses and there can’t be much left, Mr Tillack.
As the author of a recent book on EU corruption, he has the greatest archive of investigative files of any journalist working in Brussels.
And now the Brusselcop third-world-wannabes have it, too. Wonderful.
OLAF was created to replace the old fraud office UCLAF, which was accused of covering up abuses by the disgraced Santer Commission. Many UCLAF staff were transferred to OLAF.
And they wonder why few people trust the EU...
Posted by: Bulldog || 03/20/2004 8:37:29 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The STERN has been rather blunt to expose the ways EU bureaucrats fill their pockets.

Bulldog, you know I favour the Union of Europe. Which is not necesarily the same as the EU.

We need a big broom in Brussels.
Posted by: True German Ally || 03/20/2004 11:59 Comments || Top||

#2  Why do you favour the Union of Europe?
Posted by: Rafael || 03/20/2004 13:53 Comments || Top||

#3  Because I have lived the Dis-Union and it wasn't pretty.
Posted by: True German Ally || 03/20/2004 14:18 Comments || Top||

#4  It still won't be pretty. Union is not the answer.
Posted by: Rafael || 03/20/2004 14:41 Comments || Top||

#5  TGA, I don't see a Jefferson, Madison or Bismark currently involved in the creation of the EU. Who do you think could do the job?
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 15:33 Comments || Top||

#6  Napoleon?
Posted by: ed || 03/20/2004 15:37 Comments || Top||

#7  Looking on from afar,it looks to me like the EU is currently a bureaucracy in search of a government.To get control of the bureaucracy,Europe is going to need either a strong legislative or executive branch.A sensible compromise to me(if a strong central gov't. is wanted)would be a legislature modeled on US pattern w/lower House(the People's Representatives?) based on population and voted in by people,and a smaller Senate(the States' Deputy's?)w/2-3 members per country appointed by national gov't.Since most Europeans have Prime Minister-type Executives,have Prime Minister picked by lower House.Lower House initiates all legislation,both must approve,upper House has oversight of bureaucracy,approves ambassadores,gov't. ministers.
Posted by: Stephen || 03/20/2004 20:30 Comments || Top||


News Flash: Americans Not Genetically Stupid
FAZ Journalist Blasts German Media on Cynical Iraq Coverage
Thomas Schmid, the political director for the FAZ’s Sunday edition (FAZ = Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung; conservative German daily) today gave an interesting and relatively balanced statement on the situation in Iraq one year after the war began. His initial remarks are critical of the Americans on certain points. But what makes his analysis refreshing is that it concludes with a cutting and insightful review of the German media’s Iraq coverage:

“I was really a supporter of the war. Why the situation in parts of Iraq is still so chaotic is really difficult to explain. The Americans are – contrary to what most here seem to think – not genetically stupid and they have at their disposal an impressive understanding of strategy.” 

Americans genetically stupid...let’s think...where have I heard that before? Was it because we’re a mongrel race?
Note: The fact that Schmid finds it at all necessary to establish that “Americans (are in fact) not genetically stupid, contrary to what most here seem to think,” provides non-German readers a sense of the brooding anti-American jungle in which the writer finds himself. “Nonetheless the Americans have miscalculated on a number of things. The idea of establishing Democracy there was too naïve. I ask myself why the USA didn’t behave differently: with the same pathos of freedom, but a little more skeptical. For example their almost blind faith in the Iraqi exiles, who were recognizably completely isolated in a homeland they in part no longer knew, amazes me. Why were the Americans so taken in by them? The USA is in fact a clever world power.”
Obviously this guy never heard of the Morgenthau Plan. Perhaps there’s still time to implement it.
Taken in the context of the German media, Schmid’s critique of the USA is moderate and his praise of the USA as a “clever world power” is downright rare. Schmid reserves his harshest criticism for the last two sentences of his statement in which he turns his attention to the German media. His concluding remarks are a painfully accurate indictment of the German media’s widely cynical Iraq coverage over the past year: “What has angered me for a long time is the triumphant tone with which the German media reports every death, every Shiite demonstration, every call to resistance. There is a complete lack of interest in the positive developments which also exist in Iraq and which are perhaps more important than the bad news that benefit the media.”
Maybe some American papers could run this too.
Then again, isn’t that what we at David’s Medienkritik have been pointing-out for months now? It seems that some in the mainstream media may finally be catching on

Posted by: Mr. Davis || 03/20/2004 7:04:22 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Does jock itch ever go away on its own?
Posted by: Anonymous || 03/20/2004 8:54 Comments || Top||

#2  "The idea of establishing Democracy there was too naïve."

I don't know about that; it worked just fine in Germany and Japan, to the point where it sometimes seems that we did too good a job pacifying them.

I don't see what we are trying in Iraq as "naïve"; I see it as an experiment.

The experiment may succeed in producing a peaceful Iraqi state, in which case it will demonstrate that it is, in fact, possible to de-toxify Arab society.

Or it may fail; and if it fails in Iraq--arguably the most fertile ground for reform--we will then know not to bother trying democratization in the future, in other Arab states, in response to continued attacks.

I consider there are four kinds of wars: wars of liberation and/or reformation (i.e., what we are doing right now in Iraq and Afghanistan), punitive wars (bust in someplace, kick some ass, and then leave), wars of conquest (go in to take something that doesn't belong to you), and wars of annihilation ("kill 'em all, and let God sort 'em out).

God have mercy on the Arabs' souls if, because we give up on the work we are engaged in now, we end up palming off the Islamofascism problem onto our grandchildren.

Because they may very well decide to just push the damn button and turn the whole of the Arab world into a sea of radioactive glass. And I DON'T want them to do that.
Posted by: Dave D. || 03/20/2004 8:57 Comments || Top||

#3  Dave D. nice comeback: "(I dunno) it worked just fine in Germany". I will use that.

Somebody tell me WTF "pathos of freedom" means ? Or is not understanding that a sign that I need to get checked for the stupid gene in question ?
Posted by: Carl in NH || 03/20/2004 9:08 Comments || Top||

#4  No, this guy hits the administration's main error pretty much on the head: They assumed that they were taking over a basically functioning country that only needed a change of leadership instead of a basketcase needing a total overhaul.
Posted by: Hiryu || 03/20/2004 9:20 Comments || Top||

#5  I don't know, maybe the stupid gene, is less related to "IQ" and more like eye or hair color. In light of the Spanish election, support of Chiraq, Iraqi's protesting "occupation", widespread sucking up of BBC and NPR and AJ's BS..not to mention our own polls supporting Kerry, the biggest sleeze that ever oozed out of the earth...... maybe the stupid gene, though not as prevalent here as in Europe, is passed down as a recessive gene among the human race in general.

That 50% of humans seem to have it worldwide, lends ample support to Darwin, in my mind.
Posted by: B || 03/20/2004 9:40 Comments || Top||

#6  One of the most difficult, improbable accomplishments in the 20th Century was the USA's establishment of democracy in Germany.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 03/20/2004 11:16 Comments || Top||

#7  While the article raises some valid points it's off the mark with that "genetic" thing. I can't remember anyone here in Germany having said that Americans are "genetically stupid" (ok I havent checked out the Neonazis).

Hiryu, you should have seen East Germany before 1989.
Posted by: True German Ally || 03/20/2004 12:03 Comments || Top||

#8  TGA -- there are quotes from colonial times to today from Europeans stating that, somehow, living in the Americas leads to stunting, lower intelligence, etc. It's one of the major threads of anti-Americanism, that we're mongrels and somehow less human than Europeans.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 03/20/2004 13:12 Comments || Top||

#9  Robert Crawford, these are Nazi quotes, I haven't heard any of these in the last decades except from Neonazis.

Btw, the biggest "mongrels" are the Europeans... So it would not be an insult for me.
Posted by: True German Ally || 03/20/2004 13:24 Comments || Top||

#10  RC, That may be one of the bases for anti-Americanism, but not one I hear stated, at least nowadays. Just because it's not mentioned doesn't mean it's not operating in the dark recessess of some peoples' minds, or even, perhaps, subconsciously. There may be parts of Europe where such sentiments are openly expressed. Aris? I've read there's more racism in Greece than other places in Europe...
Posted by: Bulldog || 03/20/2004 13:31 Comments || Top||

#11  No, TGA, those quotes go back to at least the 1700s and as recent as the 1990s. I wish I could find the article I read them in, but it's been a while since I read it.

And, really, you're deluding yourself if you think that attitude doesn't exist in Europe today. Just listen to all the comments about the US being "less mature" than Europe; it's the same damned crap, dressed up to avoid sounding like the bigotry it is.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 03/20/2004 13:32 Comments || Top||

#12  A genealogy of anti-Americanism
Posted by: ed || 03/20/2004 13:40 Comments || Top||

#13  Does jock itch ever go away on its own?
Do you?
Posted by: Jen || 03/20/2004 14:19 Comments || Top||

#14  It may be a translation error. Maybe the word he used was more like "congenitally". Are they similar in German?

I have certainly heard enough Europeans (and Australians) express the opinon that, where the US is not outright malicious, it is stupid and bumbling. I don't know how they account for our strength and influence, in that case.

Actually, on 9/23/01, Bryan Appleyard wrote an article for the Times (of London) on this point. I'm too lazy to switch to the other browser to embed the URL (because this STILL doesn't WORK under Netscape for no reason I can imagine), so here it is:

http://www.mwarrior.com/WhyhateAmerica.htm

Excerpt:

The idea was that America was this big, blundering lummox and we were these terribly refined deep thinkers. Precisely the same attitude inspires the raised eyebrows and condescending tut-tutting of leftish dinner party opinion. They're so naïve, say the chatterers, so innocent - and this, sadly, leads them to do such terrible things...

The roots of this are obvious. We want the bully to be thick for the same reason as we want the beautiful model to be thick. We can't bear the possibility of somebody having strength or beauty as well as brains.


Worth a read.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 03/20/2004 14:21 Comments || Top||

#15  A boook about antiamericanism tells that when Franlin went to France to negociate the alliance he was invited to a dinner where someone kept telling that properties in American soil and climate prevented the raising of healthy people so Americans had to be short. At this point Franklin had his followers measure aginst the French and it was found that the shortest American was taller than the tallest French.
Posted by: JFM || 03/20/2004 14:32 Comments || Top||

#16  Bulldog> I've indeed heard the occasional Greek voicing racist-sounding (to me atleast) disparaging-meant comments that the Americans don't have a nation, that they're nothing but an amalgation of nations.

The same people voicing it would probably also hold delusions about the "racial purity" of Modern Greeks.

But it's rare I think, comparatively. And I've never seen it expressed in connection to intelligence or any other physical or mental attribute. Connected to lack of culture (or something), perhaps.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 03/20/2004 14:35 Comments || Top||

#17  I don't think it's rare at all, at least not in Western Europe.
The treatment that President Bush gets in the foreign press--"Bush is a dumb cowboy"--is emblematic of all of us.
Even the once universally-loved Third Way Boy Clinton is seen as stupid because he got caught behaving badly and the rotten multilateral deals he got the US into with other countries were always a case of the "joke's on you, Uncle Sam," like letting the US carry the water for the whole Kosovo/Bosnia problem.
Posted by: Jen || 03/20/2004 15:14 Comments || Top||

#18  One of the most difficult, improbable accomplishments in the 20th Century was the USA's establishment of democracy in Germany.

An astonishing statement! Germany has a long history of democracy and was considerably in advance of most other European countries in having an universal male franchise and a male franchise.
Posted by: phil_b || 03/20/2004 15:20 Comments || Top||

#19  The last 2 words should read 'female franchise' And incidentally Germany was a year ahead of the USA at the Federal level in this respect.
Posted by: phil_b || 03/20/2004 15:23 Comments || Top||

#20  "Die Amerikaner sind ja - anders als viele hier zu denken scheinen - nicht genetisch dumm, und verfügen über beträchtlichen strategischen Verstand."

Nope, he clearly says "not genetically dumb, other as many here seem to believe"

Well first Mr Medienkritik seems to confuse "most" with "many"... and then the whole argument is flawed, as I don't remember having read anything like that in the German media. And I read a lot.

I must say that Mr Medienkritik annoys me a bit with his crusade against "the" German media (as if it were a block of biased leftist anti_american journalists). If you read a bit you'll find about avery opinion you could possibly look for, even in the Spiegel. You can prove anything with cherry picking.

It's not true that Iraq has only be potrayed negatively. You read about positive developments there all the time. But of course exploding hotels will carry the day anytime. Not only in the German media.

So there may be a lot of criticism of America and it may be partly anti-American... but Robert Crawford, I challenge you to find me a recent quote (more recent than Heidegger, please) other than in some neonazi publication that confirms the "mongrel claims".

It's true that quite a few people would label Americans as "naive" but that's a very different story.

Let's not forget that it has been Donald Rumsfeld who qualified European nations like Italy and Spain as "new" and Germany and France" as old Europe. (Did Spain grow old so fast?)

Stereotypes, wherever they come from, are truly dumb.

Btw did American media report the fact that the German government has asked Mr Zapatero to stop his ferocious criticism of the U.S. policy (and Bush)?
Posted by: True German Ally || 03/20/2004 15:34 Comments || Top||

#21  TGA, haven't seen any yet, but Viellen Danke if they have!
Zappy hasn't been there a week, but all of his rhetoric is scary;
he needs someone to tell him to cool his Marxist jets!
Posted by: Jen || 03/20/2004 15:46 Comments || Top||

#22  Jen, if Schroeder could learn something, Zappy can, too.

You may have noticed too that Mr Villepin had to mouth off, again, while the German government has been notably quiet about Iraq.
Posted by: True German Ally || 03/20/2004 15:57 Comments || Top||

#23  TGA,

Perhaps you should frequent Medienkritik as well. Another informed perspective is always appreciated.
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 03/20/2004 16:34 Comments || Top||

#24  Robert Crawford, I challenge you to find me a recent quote (more recent than Heidegger, please) other than in some neonazi publication that confirms the "mongrel claims".

How about this story itself? Why does Schmid find it necessary to state that Americans are not genetically stupid? Perhaps because he's heard that expressed from a few of the people he's addressing?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 03/20/2004 17:32 Comments || Top||

#25  "It's one of the major threads of anti-Americanism, that we're mongrels and somehow less human than Europeans."

If it's one of the "major threads" I think it should be possible to come up with something a bit more convincing than with things Mr Schmid might have heard or not?

If I posted a sentence like this: "Other than many people seem to believe Mr Crawford is NOT a KGB agent..." wouldn't you say, hey, wait a while, WHO thinks this and where does he live?
Posted by: True German Ally || 03/20/2004 17:55 Comments || Top||

#26  Let's not forget that it has been Donald Rumsfeld who qualified European nations like Italy and Spain as "new" and Germany and France" as old Europe.

Funny, but I thought Rumsfeld was refering to Eastern European nations and not Spain and Italy. Calling Italy or Spain "new" Europe would be dumb. And I don't think Rumsfeld is dumb.
Posted by: Rafael || 03/20/2004 18:23 Comments || Top||

#27  Same thing with the statement "with us, or against us". Bush wasn't refering to Europe, because at that time everyone thought Europe was already with us. Whats with these misinterpretations on the European side? Makes me think the bitter antagonism towards the US existed long before Iraq and 9-11.
Posted by: Rafael || 03/20/2004 18:27 Comments || Top||

#28  If it were not an issue, he would not feel the need to address it. Otherwise, sorry, I don't have the resources or interest to dig deeper into the nature of modern European anti-American bigotry.

If that makes you dismiss my point, fine.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 03/20/2004 18:27 Comments || Top||

#29  Robert Crawford, if it were an issue I would know about it.

Rafael, I had the opportunity to ask Rumsfeld about this :-)
Posted by: True German Ally || 03/20/2004 19:02 Comments || Top||

#30  I remember reports of polls in Germany from a year ago ... some 1/3 of Germans said that if WMD were found they would believe it was planted by the CIA.

There truly is a smug strain in German culture, combined with a huge degree of risk aversion. I say that as someone who married into a German family. ;-)

However, TGA's larger point is worth keeping in mind. It's a mistake to see relationships with Germany or other European countries in simple black and white terms. Germany is not France.
Posted by: rkb || 03/20/2004 19:08 Comments || Top||

#31  I had the opportunity to ask Rumsfeld about this...

AND?? What did he say? Or did you mean you had the opportunity, and didn't take it?

I swear, you and Old Spook, always with the teasing.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 03/20/2004 19:09 Comments || Top||

#32  Germany is not France.

For now
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 03/20/2004 19:31 Comments || Top||

#33  We may not be smart, but we're rich, handsome and can dance good.
Posted by: Shipman || 03/20/2004 20:40 Comments || Top||

#34  You rate the world wide incidence of the "Stupid Gene" fare too low.

At some level 100% the members of the human race are stupid.

Functionaly stupid, at least %60.
Posted by: 3dc || 03/20/2004 20:42 Comments || Top||

#35  We are a mongrel race. In many case that is our strength. The residents of the former Yugoslavia had every opportunity to blend cultures and assimilate into a successful nation. They forwent the opportunity and now live in a bombed out economic bone-yard while Tiger Woods works on the mechanics of his swing and Halle Berry is reading her next script.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 21:32 Comments || Top||

#36  Let's remember that we went into two wars pretty quickly after the Bush administration began. American society is amazingly capable of engaging in self-criticism and assimilating lessons learned into the next plan. And it has been quite a few decades since we engaged in a nation-building project of this scale. Infrastructure repair used to involve erecting hospitals, bulldozing rubble, removing unexploded ordnance and slapping up some bridges.

I sense a cautiousness on the part of the administration to take accept dissident opinion as fact with respect to Iran, Syria, Venezuela and less so in North Korea. I also see an exercise of restraint with respect to American military action to resolve all these differing international situations militarily.
With respect to North Korea, especially, we are forcing local stake-holders to drive the problem rather than ride piggy-back on our action.

If we do go into one of these countries, look for us to have done an excellent job on identifying sources and stockpiling items for reinforcing/improving infrastructure (like power production.)
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 21:48 Comments || Top||

#37  Btw did American media report the fact that the German government has asked Mr Zapatero to stop his ferocious criticism of the U.S. policy (and Bush)?

No, they haven't, as far as I can tell. They're much too busy covering the 'anniversary protests'.
Posted by: Pappy || 03/20/2004 22:46 Comments || Top||


France to try ex-Yahoo! boss in Nazi auction case
The Paris court of appeal ruled Wednesday that it is competent to hear the case against former Yahoo! boss Timothy Koogle who was acquitted a year ago of illegally selling Nazi memorabilia over the Internet. The decision means the appeal hearing will go ahead later this year. Koogle, who headed the US Internet company from 1995 to 2001, was brought to court by the Association of Auschwitz Deportees, which said he had broken French laws that ban the exhibition of Nazi uniforms and insignia. Wednesday’s hearing centred on arguments over what jurisdictions should apply to Internet companies that sell transnationally over auction sites. Koogle’s lawyer said that if French law could be invoked simply because the Yahoo! Internet site was available in France, then by the same token all jurisdictions in the world could be brought to bear. But for the state prosecutor’s office, which brought the appeal against Koogle’s acquittal, the logical conclusion of this argument was that no laws at all could be made to apply to an Internet company -- which was clearly untenable. The court agreed.
I post this because it could be a look into the UN-ified future...and because I shudder to think of US companies and individuals potentially being hauled into sharia court for posting information that is "unislamic"...
Posted by: Seafarious || 03/20/2004 3:11:51 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So, when do we get to try Chirac and the French "intelligentsia" for selling their whole country to the Islamo-nazis?
Can we try Al Reuters for selling a mountain of Islamo-fascist propaganda all over the net?
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 03/20/2004 4:22 Comments || Top||

#2  F-cking French! Part that pisses me off is that TK is an all around good guy. To imply that he is some sort of pro-nazi by putting him on trial for this crap is disgusting.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 03/20/2004 8:12 Comments || Top||

#3  It wouldn't suprise us if Saudi Arabia did this - why should it surprise us (any longer) that France does it too. France is lost. Spain is probably lost and Germany is on it's way down the same road. The past is gone - this is the new reality. We need to accept it.
Posted by: B || 03/20/2004 9:45 Comments || Top||

#4  I second the TK remarks. Instead of calling TK a Nazi, why don't they do something useful like ... oops, I forgot, we are talking about France here.
Posted by: Ol_Dirty_American || 03/20/2004 10:41 Comments || Top||

#5  And here I thought that the server location determined competence. Simplisme me.

The idea that they're appealing an aquittal kinda grates, too. But I doubt Tim is stupid enough to physically enter French jurisdiction anyway, so who really cares?
Posted by: mojo || 03/20/2004 17:19 Comments || Top||


Fifth Column
Dance for cowardice
Posted by: Korora || 03/20/2004 09:01 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  OK, I give up: which one is Theresa Heinz?
Posted by: Matt || 03/20/2004 11:02 Comments || Top||

#2  Hee hee
I'd love to be the one to show these pictures to Saddam Hussein:
"These are the people you were counting on last year, dipshit."
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 03/20/2004 11:29 Comments || Top||

#3  Some protest.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 03/20/2004 11:42 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Nurturance and Terrorism - an inadequate political discussion
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 11:50 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The fatuous condescension of the this piece is mind-boggling.
First, any decent parent knows that you are either strict or nuturing according to the child and the situation. To posit that you are either one or the other is something that you would expect from the ivory tower types that never had a real child in their house 24x7.

As a metaphor for foreign relations it is worse than bizzare, it is condescending and insulting. This is a typical academic liberal elitist view. Everyone is a child that needs to be guided by their "parents" who know best. Tell you what, go scrape OBL off his cave wall and make him take a "time out" before he can go play with the other children again. And, oh yeah, add Saddam and the Mad Mullahs and Li'l Kim and .........Bleccchhhh!
Posted by: Alan || 03/20/2004 13:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Those who prattle on about "nurturing" terrorists (or Muslims in general) are probably just trying to reassure themselves that they have some control: if OBL and his fellow-travellers are children, then we can set them straight simply by following the "correct" pedagogical prescription.

Same deal with the "ask ourselves why they hate us" crowd: if terrorism is really our own fault, rather than the terrorists', then we have some control; and we can make ourselves safe simply by "fixing" our own naughty behavior.

Wrong, either way: they're adults, and they mean to either kill us or subjugate us.

Unless we kill them, first.
Posted by: Dave D. || 03/20/2004 14:18 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
Annan proposes investigation of Iraq oil-for-food program
Secretary-General Kofi Annan has proposed an independent investigation of alleged corruption in the UN oil-for-food programme for Iraq following allegations that UN staff may have reaped millions of dollars from the programme that helped Iraqis cope with international sanctions. In a letter to the Security Council revealing his proposal, Annan said for the investigation to be “thorough and effective,” it would need the council’s support and the “active cooperation” of member states. Annan said he would send another letter detailing how such an inquiry would be organized. “I propose to establish an independent, high-level inquiry to investigate the allegations relating to the administration and management of the (oil-for-food) programme, including allegations of fraud and corruption,” he said in the letter released late Friday.
Going to look into his son's involvement, are they?
Annan’s spokesman, Fred Eckhard, has said that the secretary-general doesn’t have the authority to investigate allegations in the media about wrongdoing by governments or companies. He explained that the oil-for-food programme “had no responsibility to oversee or investigate the kinds of contract skimming that have been reported in the media.”
"Yes. It has no responsibility to investigate itself. That's for others to do — if they can find the evidence."
He suggested that the Security Council might want to look at the actions of companies or governments involved in the programme, or possibly ask the committee that monitored sanctions to look into the allegations, or have governments investigate their own national companies. Earlier Friday, Annan told journalists that he has been talking with Security Council members about the scope of the investigation. “I think we need to have an independent investigation, an investigation that can be as broad as possible to look into all these allegations which have been made and get to the bottom of this because I don’t think we need to have our reputation impugned,” he said.
"No more than it has been already, anyway."
Asked whether he needed a Security Council resolution to authorize such an investigation, Annan said: “Well, if not necessarily a resolution, an agreement, an understanding that they will cooperate and get others to cooperate to make the report. ... So their cooperation is going to be essential.” The investigation will need “quite a bit of cooperation from others” because many companies and countries were involved in the oil-for-food programme, Annan said. “But at least we will go ahead full speed under our own staff and hopefully it can be expanded to other areas,” the secretary-general said. “The Iraqis themselves said they are organizing an investigation and have documents which they said they have found which we are trying to get copies of.”
Posted by: Fred || 03/20/2004 9:26:44 AM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  reminds me of the old adage about the fox guarding the hen house..........
Posted by: debbie || 03/20/2004 15:04 Comments || Top||

#2  Too right, debbie!
This reminds of those "investigations" Arafat launches to find out who carried out terror attacks on Israelis...Look in the mirror, lately, Arafish? Koffee?
Posted by: Jen || 03/20/2004 15:41 Comments || Top||

#3  Only the Senate Foreign Relations Committee can be trusted to thoroughly investigate this one. I know I look forward to seeing Sen. Kerry grilling Kofi & Son.
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 03/20/2004 20:08 Comments || Top||

#4  Annan said for the investigation to be “thorough and effective,” it would need the council’s support and the “active cooperation” of member states.

If this is exactly how Kofi worded it, then nothing is going to happen of any consequence. The member states that have the most to lose surely can't be stupid enough to actually assist in incriminating themselves.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 03/20/2004 23:13 Comments || Top||


Boris slipped...
Boris has a picture of "me" up on his website, along with an incoherent rant about me being controlled by Jews. Regular readers know that I'm losing my hair — alright, it's gone, then — half Italian and the other half part American Indian (i.e., what hair I do retain that hasn't gone gray used to be black), and agnostic when it comes to religion. The picture on Boris' site is of a Christian minister named Fred Pruitt, who has a full head of blond hair (I am sooooo jealous!) I wonder how much money Cingold could make 30 percent of representing the other Mr. Pruitt?
Posted by: Fred || 03/20/2004 1:23:53 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  At least Boris is consistent. His "Fred" post is as factually accurate as everything else on his site.
Posted by: Dar || 03/20/2004 13:38 Comments || Top||

#2  I'll save Boris the trouble of trolling:

Anyone know how to cure my groin mold?
Posted by: Bulldog || 03/20/2004 13:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Fred, if someone has set up a hate site for you, you've reached the pinnacle.
Posted by: Scott || 03/20/2004 13:56 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm jealous
Posted by: Frank G || 03/20/2004 14:05 Comments || Top||

#5  Congratulations! I'm very jealous.
Posted by: Evert Visser in NL || 03/20/2004 14:39 Comments || Top||

#6  CinGold! Squire Cingold! Thee time is nigh.
Posted by: Shipman || 03/20/2004 14:53 Comments || Top||

#7  With the Kosovo situation what it is, I guess I am mystified by a Serb supporting Muslim extremists.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 15:14 Comments || Top||

#8  boris not very smart guy. he should be prosecute.
Posted by: muck4doo || 03/20/2004 15:20 Comments || Top||

#9  Muckster, from your mouth to God's (or Fred's) ear!
Posted by: Jen || 03/20/2004 15:29 Comments || Top||

#10  rotflmao Muck.
Posted by: Evert Visser in NL || 03/20/2004 15:29 Comments || Top||

#11  Boris has his own site?!? I'd go look for it, but why bother? There's gotta be something better to do with my time.

Ignoring Boris is one of the easier and more pleasant duties in my life.
Posted by: Traveller || 03/20/2004 15:48 Comments || Top||

#12  If anyone decides to check out Boris' site be careful. As soon as you turn on the lights, cockroaches start scurrying everywhere. Please don't stomp on any because it could be the webmaster himself.
Posted by: GK || 03/20/2004 16:19 Comments || Top||

#13  I look at the google cache of the site so I don't get any cooties...
Posted by: Anonymous || 03/20/2004 18:30 Comments || Top||

#14  I might have went to have a peek at the humorous material, but seeing as how he posted something about a person being "controlled by Jews", well, that's all I really needed to know.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 03/20/2004 18:40 Comments || Top||

#15  Hey Fred - You now you've made the "A List" if your Trolls are going to the extra effort of telling their world they hate you.

Well - the rest of us love ya! Hang in there and don't let this hold you or Rantburg back. This site is my favorite. You must know all kinds read your site and if needed, the RANTBURG LEGIONS will answer the call holding the Eagles high. All you need to do is ask. Please do if you ever need us.

FRED AKBAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 03/20/2004 18:56 Comments || Top||

#16  Eagles up!
Fred Akbar! Long live the Axis of EFL!
Posted by: Jen || 03/20/2004 18:59 Comments || Top||

#17  If you do a google search for images of "Fred Pruitt", you get two results---the gif from Fred's bio on Rantburg, and this blond guy (it's TV's Frank!). Ergo, thinks Boris, our Fred Pruitt has to be this Frank Conniff impersonator. Man, wotta maroon.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 03/20/2004 19:03 Comments || Top||

#18  Yo Sam - Rantburg Lesions?.

Oh, I see . . Well, you have to admit this site is infectious. :0
Posted by: Doc8404 || 03/20/2004 19:08 Comments || Top||

#19  Boris appears to be at least a 5th level troll with extra hit points. He has more staying power than that Elanor guy. He seems to be much quieter today. I have been looking for an opportunity to try out my latest jab - calling him Subserbiant.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 20:45 Comments || Top||

#20  I've... ahhhh... added another level of defense. He'll be back, though. Briefly.
Posted by: Fred || 03/20/2004 21:30 Comments || Top||

#21  30 percent

//visuals on// Sun glinting off his golden helmet, the Squire pulls his steed up sharply and leaps to the ground, dust swirling about his boots . . .//visuals off//
NOW YOU KNOW WHY I’M A LAWYER, AND NOT A WRITER!

Fred, heck, I’d charge 40 percent 45 percent 50 percent (hmmmmm, how much can I charge ---- ;) ). Seriously, this is probably a “false light” tort (which is a kind of invasion of privacy tort, recognized in some states, but not Colorado). I think it is recognized in California, though. Still, I think the RICO angle is better, because (under the civil portion) if you prevail you get your attorney fees paid for by the loser -- and you can get treble damages (heh, heh, heh).
Posted by: cingold || 03/20/2004 21:45 Comments || Top||

#22  S.P.Q.R.
Senatus Populusque Rantburg
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 03/20/2004 22:10 Comments || Top||

#23  I have been looking for an opportunity to try out my latest jab - calling him Subserbiant.

I like it. I had one round chambered: Serbifiable.
Posted by: Pappy || 03/20/2004 22:15 Comments || Top||

#24  Pappy, at work now I compose insults on my Palm Pilot. Outwardly it must appear to my employees as if I'm working diligently ... or engaged in Tetris.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/20/2004 22:33 Comments || Top||



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