Dont just elide the text. Completely delete the article from all listings, including the headlines. Its that simple. He is simply posting the same links over and over. He is attempting to drown out the info here with repeated posts. This is an attack on the site and should no longer be tolerated. Like any mindless terrorist in the real world, the "ADL" poster should have his posts summarily, and without fanfare, eliminated. To do anything less is to encourage him. And if he has all these links, when Yahoo does its scan, being linked to from other sites increases the scoring - so not only is he abusing your readers, he is abusing your site to interject his demented standpoints illicitly to innocent parties. Time to treat him like the rabid opossum that he is - and put him out of our misery.
I've spent most of the day deleting Boris/ADL posts and I'm as tired of it as you guys are. More tired, in fact. His posts show about a dozen different IPs, all of which â to date â are banned. He probably posts from the library or something, or works in an office where he has access to a number of different computers. One IP looked spoofed, so he might be the source of some of those e-mails saying "Read the attached right away."
I've set up a separate "Trolls and Spam" category on the editor's page. The associate editors will have to move them there, but please just ignore them until they do or until I can delete them.
We've been lucky up until this point. The trolls have gone away after a day or two of mockery. Boris is more determined to be obnoxious than the average troll.
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Delete if this is out of place. Sorry, just had to vent. Got back from the VA, and it just pisses me off that scum like "Boris" and Elanor etc, abuse the freedoms that these guys won (while losing a lot in the process), and they sit ignored.
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Count me in, Old Spook.
You're quite right--IP ban them all.
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Can't we just ban his IP please. He is a complete mad hatter who is clogging up Rantburg with his bile. We have taunted him, mocked him and even ignored him and nothing has worked.
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I just sent an email to Steve White on this very subject. Cauterize the sucker. He is attacking the site. Of course, you know, this means war. Or maybe we can talk to them and appease them.... Worked for Spain so far..../sarcasm
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Grep article submissions for his website and any other keywords and reject any articles that contain it.
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Thanks Fred. I'm not the most net-savvy guy around but if Boris, et al elude the various defenses, I'll s---can him. I was the one who just cut rather than deleted this afternoon.
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Send me his email address and I'll pass it along to the guys in the 3rd ID, just back from Iraq and looking for someone to take their anger out on.
We really, really need a better way of welcoming troops back from someplace like Iraq than the kind of bs I got coming back from Vietnam, and the "oh, so you're back..." crap the guys today are getting. In the meantime, some way for them to vent might be useful... A douchebag like Boris wouldn't know what hit 'im.
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Question: Are all the IPs where this crap is originating share, like say, the first two set of octets? Or are they entirely all different? If the various originating locations are on a subnet, just whack the whole domain. If a legit user is locked out as a result, well, that's just how things go...
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There are two main groups, 67. and 68., but also a 197. and a couple others.
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His email address? What are you, nuts? People don't just have one email address...I have a half-dozen or so myself, for different purposes.
This has zip to do with "fighting for freedom" or other such concepts. It's just someone with a very small life, sitting in front of the computer all day and taking out his life's frustrations on a bunch of strangers. This activity is more entertaining than the rest of his life, therefore it ain't going to stop any time soon.
Banning IPs isn't a solution...I can post things from hundreds of different IPs using proxies.
"Cop won't find your boy. Cop couldn't find his own butt if it had a bell on it. Wanna find an outlaw, call an outlaw. Wanna find a Dunkin Donuts, call a cop."
-- The Lone Biker of the Apocolypse, "Raising Arizona"
I've made more tweaks to the Poop List. Boris and Eleano (they're two different people) can't seem to comprehend the idea that Rantburg isn't their property. Nor can they comprehend the idea that they're not welcome. I can no doubt discuss that at my treason trial. Let me know if I keep out somebody who should be posting.
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Part of the new "Tweaks for Twerps" policy, eh, Fred?
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Hey Fred - what do you think about a "Rantburg Convention"? Guest speakers like you, Old Spook and some of the more prominent posters. Just an idea...
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03/17/2004 10:53 Comments ||
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Sam:
Lovely idea, especially if the supply of adult beverages and seafood is abundant. We could call it the "Rantburg Chamber of Commerce" or some such.
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Yeah - I was thinking we could have it somewhere where plane tickets are cheap from just about anywhere (ie Vegas or Daytona).
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03/17/2004 11:07 Comments ||
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I'd prefer east of the Mississippi to elsewhere (don't fly, drive) but put me down as interested, too.
Posted by: Old Grouch ||
03/17/2004 11:24 Comments ||
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I'm down for it myself. And there is nowhere to fly or stay cheaper than Oklahoma City, where I live.
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Two comments: OKC I can make (12-hour drive - I, too, don't fly - noise problems). Second, the Colorado Mountain Division of the North American Militia is available to support you against your "treason" charges. (Recruits welcome - but the training regimen is tough. You HAVE to climb at least one 14er - using your own legs.)
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Seafarious suggested Baltimore, a beer joint called The Horse You Rode in On. We've been talking about it since December.
I'll work on the tee-shirts.
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I, too, will be driving but I'd drive a long time from Texas to meet up with this distinguished company! ;-)
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I'd have to drive up from Texas as well. It's been a while since I've been on the east.
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03/17/2004 16:08 Comments ||
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Here's a link for The Horse You Rode In On. Fred and I have been chatting very informally about this; how 'bout all you East Coast Rantburgers drop me a line and we'll see if we can work something up. Posters, commenters, and lurkers welcome! (I know there's lurkers, I see 213 people online even as I type!) seafarious@yahoo.com
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Baltimore! I was born there, haven't been back in too many years. Count me in - I'll drive up from Richmond and probably bring a like-minded friend.
Never went to that bar (I was too young when we left) but it sounds like a hoot.
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The Horse You Rode in On?
Wasn't that the joint the cops on "Homicide" owned? I know I saw it on one of the episodes. It's not a name you'd forget.
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OK, Doc, we'll talk more later...
Someone, you may be onto something, however, particularly the hiding for security reasons.
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03/17/2004 21:36 Comments ||
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Hmmm, it's only about 15 hours from Chicago to Baltimore. I'll be driving the turnpikes. Anyone need a lift?
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Geez, somehow I prefer to think of you all as folks who have to stay anonymous and in hiding for important security reasons...
AMDAY!!! Hey, Old Spook, he may be onto something. I'd better dig out 59-50 and take a look. Wouldn't want to give the guv'mint any unnecessary ideas... 8^)
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You guys figure out where you want to set up, preferably in a heavily guarded stockade. Then I will make a flight plan and bring myself down in Rantburg One.
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I selfishly suggest Hussongs in Ensenada, Mexico. Stay here in San Diego (you already know about the weather), and if we get too drunk or broke, we can try and sneak back across the border for grins and giggles
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Baltimore's not to far from carolina, yeah, I could pull that op off.
For Squadron Leader Bertram "Jimmy" James, waiting was the hard part. One of 76 Allied airmen who broke out of a German prisoner of war camp in March 1944 - an event that inspired the 1963 film "The Great Escape" - James said the minutes waiting his turn to crawl through a narrow tunnel to freedom were full of "tremendous tension mixed with fear."
"Mainly, I was very excited," said James, 89, who gathered with other veterans Tuesday at London's Imperial War Museum to mark the 60th anniversary of the escape. "When you emerge into the snow and you're running away from the camp, there's a sense of exhilaration. ... We were on our way, we hoped, to freedom," he added. "That wasn't quite the case." The March 24, 1944 escape from Stalag Luft III, a camp for Allied air force officers, is one of the best-known episodes of World War II. The film starring Steve McQueen and Richard Attenborough recounts the daring plan and its tragic denouement - only three of the escapers made it to freedom; 73 were recaptured and 50 were shot, on Hitler's orders, as a warning to would-be escapers. "They were selected by lot, taken out by the local Gestapo in ones and twos, taken along the Autobahn, invited to get out and relieve themselves and then shot in the back of the neck," said James, a bomber pilot shot down over the Dutch coast in June 1940. He was recaptured after escaping from Stalag Luft III and sent to Sachsenhausen concentration camp. "We didn't know the Germans were going to shoot people; they had never done so previously," he said. "But it was war." After the war, 21 Gestapo officers were tried by the British in connection with the executions; 14 were executed.
Dozens of books detail the meticulous planning, expert craftsmanship and quiet daring that went into the plan. Over almost a year, prisoners at the camp near Sagan in eastern Germany - now Zagan, Poland - excavated three tunnels 30 feet underground, shored up with bedboards and wired with stolen electrical wire. Other prisoners obtained maps and railway timetables and forged German identity documents for the escapers. Tim Carroll, author of a recently published book, "The Great Escapers," said the breakout "distills all the reasons the Allies were fighting for freedom. The Germans offered them all sorts of inducements to give up, but they never gave in. That's why it's so iconic." James, who made a dozen escape attempts in all, has a simpler explanation for the audacious plan. "I think it was a habit," he said. "We had so much talent and experience together in one compound that there was no other option. We had to do something."
Great bunch of guys. Pictures at the link.
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...Two years ago at the Doolittle raiders' reunion, I had a chance to meet retired General Davy Jones - one of the Raiders, a prisoner and escapee from Luftstalag III and according to legend the inspiration for Steve McQueen's character in The Great Escape. Given what he was like then - in his 90s - I can only imagine what kind of fits he gave the Germans.
Treasure each and every one of these men. They need to know that when they move on, we will not give up the fight.
Mike
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"They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn
At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them"
Top boys - nice monocle!
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always admire these old war ime guys, even the ones in thier uniform with all thier medals who stand outside my local church at weekend scowling at frowning at anyone who walks past,guess alot of them think people arn't gratefull.Wonder when WW3 comes the current generation of brits could be as big heros as these, somehow with todays modern yoof culture i think not,they'd be trying to shoot thier waepons like in the movies (picture guy holding pistol one handed at a horizontel angle jumping around screaming rap slogans as he fires hundreds of round off from his infinate bullet supply). Not saying our professionals are bad though cos thier as good as Israeli or American armed forces which is good enough for me. Decades of lefty defence money cuts havn't been good though for us. wonder if the BBC will find a way to sneer at these heros,perhaps thier anti war website will, or perhaps thier 'doctered' have your say section will find a foreign nobody to do it for them as they normally do.. Note sneer commas.
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Re. the BBC Have Your Say Censored pages. I used to have a look, and posted comments occasionally. Some would find their way onto the pages, but only ever those close to the BBC's own way of thinking, such as ambivalence towards the police keeping criminals' DNA samples. Haven't bothered with Have Your Say a lot in the last year, but occasionally I use the form just to lay into the BBC's reporting itself. Some sod at the Beeb's reading them, after all.
Did either of you guys hear Alistair Campbell interviewed by Jeremy Vine on BBC Radio 2 after Hutton's report? That was an absolutely classic hour of radio. Campbell verbally bludgeoned Vine as caller after caller was put through critical of Blair, the Government and the war. Vine could come up with no response to Campbell's tirades against BBC bias and the selective blocking of anti-Beeb points of view. He just whimpered occasionally. I actually changed my opinion of Campbell, big time, after Hutton.
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Don't know. I still think Cambell's a self-serving slimey shit. Quite agree with 'Have your say censored' though. You have to tow a fairly sterile line to get published. Fair point.
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He's getting his own interview show on Channel Five later in the year. Should be good, but how on earth are they going to be able to persuade anyone to go on it?! Might turn out to be Five's version of HardTalk.
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Hard talk, wasn't that the one with the little fat balding fella who knowbody knew who he was or where he came from or even where hes gone too.He was Mysterious,but shit
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I had the pleasure of meeting one of the RAF gents from Stalag III. He is/was an architect in Chicago and the owner of the Red Lion Pub on Lincoln Ave (across from the Biograph Cinema where Dillinger was shot dead by the FBI).
He was too injured to go out with the lads but used his skills in engineering to help design the tunnel support systems. He published his sketch book of POW camp life in the late '80's-early '90's. His son Colin runs the pub now. Stop in. Good Shepards Pie and a nice pint of Bass.
"He had so much hate in his eyes." Thatâs what 48-year-old Sylvia Aldren said after being pummeled and flayed by a kangaroo in the Australian state of Queensland. "I can still see his big, beady eyes, like you see in a Martian video," she told the Brisbane Courier-Mail. Aldren, from the town of Burpengary, suffered a large puncture wound on her neck as well as claw marks all over her body from todayâs frenzied attack. "My nightie was covered in blood and there are paw marks on the back of it," she told the paper. "I thought I was going to die." There is a picture at the link, but I donât recommend it unless you were allured the gym instructor in Porkyâs. For the rest, just imagine that she is a Victoriaâs Secret model.
She says was picking flowers in her garden before hearing a noise and suddenly feeling claws tearing into the back of her neck. "I fell down on my front, it happened so quick, and I got up to hold the bucket out in front of me," she said. Sylvia Aldren displays her kangaroo wounds (courtesy Brisbane Courier-Mail) - thanks, I for exorcizing attacking kangeroos from my nightmare dance card. I shanât sleep a wink tonight. Isnât she in the cast of Drew Carey?
"It kicked the bucket out of my hand and I grabbed [his paw] to stop him, but he got on his tail and started kicking me â he was taller than me on his hind legs. I tried to get up four or five times but he kept kicking me over. He also bit my hand." He wanted you to put the bucket over your face.
Family and friends reportedly watched in horror as the kangaroo repeatedly pelted Aldren in the back as she tried to escape. The animal finally jumped away when neighbors got close. "I always thought they were cute animals, [but] now I want them culled," Aldren said, according to the report. Ironically, she works for attorneys who specialize in personal-injury cases. "But what am I going to do?" Aldren asks. "Sue a kangaroo?"
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NARROWS, Va. -- A woman in this mountain town was attacked and bitten by a bobcat in her basement Tuesday afternoon. According to a dispatcher with the Giles County Sheriffâs Office, the woman kept a basement window open so her pet cats could come and go. The bobcat apparently climbed through the window. Pet cats, the other white meat.
The woman, whose name was not released by police, went to her basement to get something out of the freezer about 3 p.m. and saw the bobcat, the dispatcher said. "Hello Kitty......oh shit!"
When the woman turned to run, the bobcat jumped on her. Normal predator response to prey fleeing.
The woman suffered two bites and several scratches before she got away, the dispatcher said, but her injuries were not serious. She was treated at Carilion Giles Memorial Hospital. "Now, Miss, just where were you bitten?"
"In my basement, see?"
"And a nice round, firm basement it is."
The bobcat was still in the basement when a game warden and Giles County deputies arrived. The full-grown animal was killed and turned over to the health department to be tested for rabies, the dispatcher said. (channeling muck4doo)"it her own fault leavin window open bobcat only hungry cuz people cutting down forest big tough warden killed poor cat should have been caugth and set free"
A dispatcher who has worked with the sheriffâs office for more than a decade said she doesnât recall ever getting a call about a bobcat inside someoneâs home.
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Steve, try using the gerund form of nouns to logically assault the reader in mid sentence. It adds a fingernail down the blackboard for any reader that was not a recipient of a social promotion out of 3rd grade.
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And you didn't say anything about Chainey.
I don't know about in Virginny, but in my neck of the woods bobcats were not that large. One would be damned lucky to take down something the size of an adult human. You'd think it would be more afraid of her. Maybe it was rabid.
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Around here, it's foxes that kill cats, but usually only small, young ones. As I've said before, animals are adjusting to living among humans, and we'll see more and more "wildlife" adapting to city living. Once they do, it'll be our turn to adapt. They do help to keep down the mice and other small rodents (squirrels are becoming a MAJOR pest) that also inhabit the local area. I have no qualms with it, as long as both the local animals and the humans that live in the area both are aware of each other, and have established a wary truce where we all just leave the other side alone. Sounds like the bobcat followed Fifi home, and decided to take up more permanent residence, only to be surprised to find (gasp!) Humans living in the same area. The ones that survive will learn NOT to enter open windows.
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haha very funy. angie im not talk about chainey right now cuz i have source that tell me he currently working on new deth star just beyond our solar sistem. i will get back to you on that when more detail come known. also sometime if animal is rabie it more humane to kill it nad cuz it make other animal rabie as well.
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1)Years from now her children will be able to tell their children,"you think this is tough,when I was a kid we had to fight bobcats just to get icecream from freezer."
2)Just another advantage to modern medicine-asking Mother Nature to do a liposuction hurts too much.
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try using the gerund form of nouns
M4D is doing God's English teacher work. I had to google Gerund.
I hope Shamu is mercy showin.
I still can't quite grasp it... SH of course has been of the watch list from Day 1.
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The BBC also has an interesting article on a Latin American inovation. It is titled Colombia convicts to fund prisons. Looks like a good tax relief strategy to me. I am less complimentary of the UK idea of charging exonerated convicts room and board.
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via Seattle Times Venezuela offers asylum to Aristide
Venezuelaâs strongly anti-American president yesterday offered asylum to former Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, echoing allegations that Washington, D.C., "kidnapped" him into exile. Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez also said he would not recognize the Haitian transition government being formed by Prime Minister Gerard Latortue. An official said none of the 11 of 13 Cabinet ministers chosen so far came from Aristideâs Lavalas Family Party. Chávez told a nationwide address yesterday that "the doors of Venezuela are open" to the former president, who resigned and fled Haiti on Feb. 29, spent two weeks in the Central African Republic and arrived Monday in Jamaica to reunite with his family. Chávezâs offer of asylum is certain to whet the already sharp edges in U.S. relations with the leftist populist Chávez, whose oil-rich nation is all but politically paralyzed by a drive to recall him. Anyoneâs Surprise Meter register?
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He can earn his keep by helping to train the new terror squads.
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It doesn't sound like a Seattle Times story. Let's try:
Democratically-elected Haitian President Aristide was offered asylum by democratically elected Venezuelan President Chavez. Chavez was nearly deposed by a coup that some say was backed by the Bush administration, while Aristide has stated that he was forced into exile by the US.
Heck, that even sounds good enough for the New York Times.
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Hey, Jean-Bertrand, have you heard about our new training program? We're going to train ten Haitian squads of six as snipers. We're going to get the sixty best men in Haiti and train them to shoot the eyes out of seagulls at 1000 yards, on the wing. We're going to pick them from volunteers who hate your guts so bad, they can't wait to shoot you. Then we're going to see they get all the voodoo charms Haiti can provide, so they can move totally unseen. Think about it, Jean-Bertrand, and consider your future - yours and whoever ends up giving you final sanctuary.
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Haiti's new prime minister worked to build a unity government Tuesday, and with 11 of 13 ministers reportedly chosen, none was from ousted President Jean-Bertrand Aristide's Lavalas Family party. In accordance with a U.S.-backed plan, Interim Prime Minister Gerard Latortue met with political leaders to form his transitional government that must be approved by interim President Boniface Alexandre, chief justice of Haiti's Supreme Court. An official involved in the process said all the 11 ministers chosen so far had not served in government since 2000 when Aristide was re-elected in a rigged vote.
There's some uncommon sense.
The official said the list included Yvon Simeon as foreign minister; Bernard Gousse, an anti-Aristide lawyer, as justice minister; Henri Bazan, president of the Haitian Association of Economists, as finance minister; and former Gen. Herard Abraham as interior minister.
Nothing but the best thugs to run Haiti into the ground!
Maj. Xavier Pons, a French military spokesman, said plans were under way to divide the country into four peacekeeping sectors. Each of the armed forces on the ground now - American, French, Chilean and Canadian - would patrol a separate area. "We still don't know who will control where, but we should know by the end of the week," Pons said.
Give the Frenchies the quietest sector, for their sake.
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The US should take a very thin sector that extends the length of the Dominican border. Let's not let the Tonton Macoutes slip away to disturb peace and justice at a later date.
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Shipman, although we have tried that one in the past, the duct tape solution can yet be successful. All we would have to do is have a bunch of frigates patrol the contiguous waters ramming escape canoes trireme style. Nation building in Haiti becomes a national interest for the United States when the satellite photos detect massive numbers of dugouts being fashioned on the Haitian beaches. ....
I can't believe that I am spewing a rationale for continued involvement in a society where I could buy voodoo dolls at the five-and-dime. We are truly riding a whirlwind in this decade. If Charley Rangle sends me an autographed picture, I'll start checking around corners looking for Rod Steiger.
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This is precisely why all foreign aid into North Korea needs to be shut down like a floating craps game.
Any aid sent to this rogue nation only permits them to divert more resources to their military. That they managed to propel their nuclear weapons program in the midst of continual starvation and poverty is proof enough of their belligerent intentions.
North Korea must undergo a maritime blockade plus the restriction of any air traffic into and out of the country, all subject to search by an international enforcement body. We cannot afford to have North Korea sell off a few of its nuclear weapons or fissile material to pay for their leader's next military program.
The Democratic Underground has a discussion thread going on the burning issue of whether or not President Bush will declare martial law and cancel the â04 election.
The prevailing "wisdom," if one dare call it that, among the DU-ites is that the election will be cancelled, martial law will be declared, and the "brainwashed sheeple" (thatâs us) will placidly go along with it because we lack the intelligence and wisdom of the DU-ites.
Click the link if you need a laugh.
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Of course a lot of them are so goddamned brainwashed by FAUX/Corporatist News Newtork/MSRNC that they don't know any better, but the fact remains (as I pointed out in a similar thread) that the general population has tolerated a whole list of things that would have been completely unthinkable just a few years ago. Where would they draw the line? Well, first I thought it was the theft of the election. Then I thought it was the fact that the Bush Criminal Empire's "official story" of 9-11 had more holes than a 5 pound block of Swiss Cheese, and that they have continued to block any true investigation of the attacks and how they happenned. And then I thought that surely the American people would respond to the so-called "president" pissing off the entire world in order to invade a crippled country based on a case that was weak enough, even as it was presented, and turned out that even the weak evidence they presented was total lies, most of which came from a fugitive bank robber who only opposed the Hussein dictatorship because he wanted to be the dictator of Iraq himself (and will probably get the job if PNAC has their way.)
If you would have told me that any of this would have been possible 4 years ago, I would have laughed in your face. But it all did happen, and the "masses", the "sheeple", the "70% who believe Iraq was involved in the 9-11 attacks" still haven't drawn the line. Why would that suddenly change if Junior decided to cancel an election as a result of a staged terror event?
OMG! I could not make something like this up if I tried.... these people are seriously disturbed.....
#2
Like I always say about DU's visitor numbers:not all who go to the zoo are animals.
PS.My apologies to all the zoo animals who were offended.
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I hate to admit it but I knew people on our side just as loony about Clinton, Y2K and martial law during all the impending chaos. Somebody on the other side needs to tell these folks to cool their jets. This way just leads to madness.
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Remember, Ted Rall first predicted that the elections would be cancelled. Wonder what he'll say when the elections go forward?
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Redneck -- unfortunately, the other side's officials are not trying to shut that crap down, but are egging it on.
I expect violence if Bush wins in November, no matter what the vote count.
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RC, do you really believe that will happen? I find it odd that the peacenik's who won't fight Al-Qaeda would take on fellow Americans.
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Lil Dhimmi...I respectively disagree. The anarchist are "supported" by the mainstream Left. The Left will turn a blind eye, as the "people respond to the violations."
Crazy...You are so right. I like to look at the sight every now and again. It reminds me that Savage is correct...liberalism is a mental disorder.
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" volunteers carried petitions that filled 18 large boxes, signed
so far by 560,340 members of MoveOn.org from every congressional district ". straight to the recycling plant to be made into bog paper for this pile of wank!
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Sounds like they had a BIG Kool Aid party and everyone took a drink. Sad that they have brainwashed Family members to believe this tripe. Is this what they are doing with Sorosâs âgrantâ? He should ask for a refund!
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seems rantburg is doing its job....the dnc's operatives are planting pages like this one quite frequently now....must be getting real desperate as nov approaches...i find it kinda funny....
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I just had a great dream! Denny Hassert takes the boxes from the Commie deceitful bastards. He places them on the Capital steps one next to the other and opens each one. He then pulls out his âorganâ and âcertifiesâ each box. He zips up, salutes the crowd, and then returns to MEANINGFUL business!
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"Our message to Congress today is clear: spare us the platitudes, the pious rhetoric, the empty slogans. Give us the truth. Do your job and hold those accountable who have denied us the truth."
Wow!!! Naivete in the flesh! She better "MoveOn" to critical thinking skills. It would be a day to remember if Congress dispenses with platitudes, pious rhetoric, empty slogans, and instead, told the truth, and held those (like themselves) accountable, who have denied the public the truth. I think she's on drugs.
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Penguin - it's even funnier that Mr. Waxman doesn't understand that the Islamists would gladly kill him first - being that he's nothing more than a JEEEWWW pig Zionist Elder.
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Seems the Arabs cannot tell the difference between being incorrect and lying. Perhaps that is one of the problems their culture will have to face up to during the coming Islamic reformation/civil war.
John Kerry Dem 856,891 71.8%
John Edwards Dem 129,787 10.9%
Carol Moseley Braun Dem 52,364 4.4%
Howard Dean Dem 46,465 3.9%
Al Sharpton Dem 35,519 3.0%
Dennis Kucinich Dem 27,504 2.3%
Joe Lieberman Dem 22,949 1.9%
Wesley Clark Dem 18,932 1.6%
Lyndon LaRouche Dem 3,803 0.3% I miss the network coverage of the vegan dwarf (I think a Rantburgian named him this - I had hoped the large block of deceased voters in Chicago would vote for him but they must have gone to Kerry or favorite daughter Moseley Braun).
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Is it my imagination, or is Dean doing better now that he's dropped out? Another interesting point, Kerry is all but a shoo-in, so why did close to 30% of the primary electorate vote against him?
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Wow! He flattened Clark and Lieberman, and he's less than 1% behind Sharpton. If Kucinich pushes really hard, next Tuesday he could overtake Dean and threaten Edwards' hold on second place.
Kucinich Fever: catch it. (Then see your doctor.)
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Wow! Look at how many votes Lyndon LaRouche got!
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Why the hell did people vote for candidates that have already dropped out? Is it alzheimer's or are did they just go through the Chicago public school system?
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badanov
I think Kucinich is also CAIR's favorite candidate.
see
http://www.muhajabah.com/muslims4kucinich/archives/007168.php
Former Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean said Tuesday that President Bushâs decision to send troops to Iraq appears to have contributed to the bombing deaths of 201 in Spain. A growing international investigation is focusing on Islamic militants possibly linked to al-Qaida as the culprits in the Madrid train bombings last Thursday. European intelligence agencies are trying to identify a purported al-Qaida operative who claimed in a videotape that the group carried out the bombings to punish Spain for backing of the U.S.-led war in Iraq. The tape was discovered in a trash bin near Madridâs largest mosque on Saturday after a telephone tip to a Madrid TV station. Dean referred to the videotape when asked whether he was linking U.S. troops in Iraq to the deaths in Spain. "That was what they said in the tape," Dean said. "They made that connection, Iâm simply repeating it."
"I have no mind. My lips move of their own volition."
Deanâs comment came as he was defending former rival John Kerry, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, from a Bush campaign ad accusing Kerry of turning his back on U.S. soldiers fighting in Iraq. Dean said it is the president who has not supported the troops. He said Bush sent soldiers to Iraq unequipped, misled the country on the reasons for war and made the United States less safe by focusing on a target that wasnât a threat. And, he said, "The president was the one who dragged our troops to Iraq, which apparently has been a factor in the death of 200 Spaniards over the weekend." Dean issued a statement later to The Associated Press that said, "Let me be clear, there is no justification for terrorism. Except when I pinned it on Bush
Today I was simply repeating what those who have claimed responsibility for the bombings in Spain said was the reason they carried out that despicable act." Look what Bush made them do!
Dean was speaking on a conference call arranged by Kerryâs campaign. Campaign spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said, "We arenât in a position to say that Spainâs support for the war in Iraq made them a target." Spain has been a target for Islamo revenge since 1492.
"Governor Dean was simply repeating whatâs already been reported by news organizations about a group that claims responsibility for the enormous tragedy in Spain," she said. "Itâs clear that what happened in Spain is a painful reminder that the war on terror is far from over and the nation would be better off if this administration took the time to rebuild our alliances rather than engaging in political attacks." We Zionist conspirators and neanderthal reactionaries might suppose that the terrorists are responsible, with a lot of encouragement from the appeasement activists who incite them with demands that terrorism be rewarded.
Once a scapegoat has been nominated, however, no real effort is required to blame him for literally anything. A few weeks ago, an Al Guardian columnist stupidly lost some money in a Nigerian e-mail scam and seriously blamed Bush for it.
Itâs ridiculously easy to blame Bush for nearly anything. Iâll demonstrate: A couple of weeks ago, there was a bizarre accident at my home. My overweight neighbor was trimming a tree in his backyard. The ladder fell, depositing the neighbor against the fence, which collapsed. The ladder itself continued onto my side, and knocked down my electric powerline, leaving me in the dark for 3 hours. Remarkably enough, the neighbor was not seriously injured.
This was obviously Bushâs fault. How, skeptical Rantburgistas might ask? Simple, my neighbor is a car dealer, he makes a killing from SUVs (when these arenât roaming about killing and plundering on their own). If it werenât for Bush limiting our freedom by failing to ban these diabolical machines, this guy wouldnât be rich enough to live in my neighborhood. I would have a slender, athletic vegan commissar or such for a neighbor, and the accident would not have happened.
Last year, I was returning to my car from a night class. I slipped in the darkness, hit my noggin on the curb and required several stitches to fix it. Again, Bushâs fault; no doubt about it. You see, if Bush allowed the government to provide a guaranteed minimum income of $26,500 a year(as the Green Party advocates) nobody would have to work, there would be no night classes and clumsy middle-aged professors like myself would not be wandering about in dark parking lots.
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"That was what they said in the tape," Dean said. "They made that connection, Iâm simply repeating it." Dean is usurping Al Jezeera's job. Dean's function in the continuing campaign is to launch ridiculous crap into the echo chamber hoping that some of it memefies. The Kerry campaign probably faxes a list of Meming Points. Kerry knows he can not afford politically to spew utter nonsense. Most of the excrement side of political invective is Dean's intellectual property anyway.
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If I were Kerry, I would tell Dean to shut the hell up. Kerry already looks weak on defense, and blaming Spain's support of the US in Iraq for the terrorist's reason for bombing them, looks like so much appeasement.
This election is probably the most important one in past 50 years. If Kerry is seen as an appeaser, as another Neville Chamberlain, he will lose and lose badly. It is a matter of life and death, and the terrorists have shown that appeasement just encourages the bad guys.
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If it weren't so derogatory to them, I'd say Dean is a whore.
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How lovely it would be to learn that LOSER mercifully took the decison never again to publicly spout pornographic inanities out his gaping maw, locked himself in his bathroom, pointed his .357 revolver mouthward, performed oral sodomy on the business end, pulled the trigger, and assumed room temperature for the greater good of Americans who value common decency.
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Bill Clinton taught the Democratic Party leadership a vital lesson: no matter what you spew out, loyal Democrats will happily swallow.
He taught them that truth simply doesn't matter; that a lie is just as good as the truth, especially if it happens to be a lie the party faithful desperately want to believe, and always better than the truth if it helps you win.
We've had two Democrats in the Oval Office in the last third of a century. I voted for each of them the first time and against them, when they ran for re-election.
After seeing the rampant dishonesty of today's Democratic Party, I don't think I'll ever give another Democrat even a first term to try him out; these people have become an outright menace to our very survival.
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Dave D
I hate to make this kind of jokes but do you know if Monica was a loyal democrat?
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I said it yesterday and I am going to say it again today: Let him rant. The more he rants then more marginalized the dems become. They either have to acknowledge him or denounce him. Howling Howard swings more voters our way everytime he opens his yap.
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Maybe Dean wants to be the new DNC chairman. He obviously beat Terry Macauliff to the media with this stupid comment.
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If Kerry is seen as an appeaser
Orthodox left/liberal thought is that destruction of the United States will be accomplished by imposing policies that will weaken our national defense/security. This has long been a goal of leftists worldwide and the left now has its boy, Kerry, to carry this out.
As I said, 2004 is gonna be fun watching the left self-immolate.
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I'm with Cyber Sarge. Let them hang themselves ala Dean. I think it would be simply terrific if Dean would become Kerry's official campaign public relations spokesman.
My favorite Dean comment (above) was that Bush "doesn't support our troops" and "sent the soldiers to Iraq unequipped." I wonder if that's what the Iraqi army thought.
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Deano was rejected by Democrats because of these kind of statements. Think about it, even the Democrats thought he was too far left. For Kerry to associate himself with Deano and his tin foil hat comments will only serve to drive the center-left and undecided voters toward Bush.
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I'm with Superhose on this. Dean happily occupies the loony left, and Kerry is glad he's there spouting inanities. I hope someone on the R side appropriately bitchslaps Ho-ho for this scurrilous charge. He could just have easily blamed the Madrid attacks on Saddam Hussein -- if he wasn't such an evil asshole, Bush, Blair et al., wouldn't have had to go to Baghdad to topple him.
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Dave D-
Thank you for stating so clearly That Which May Not Be Spoken. The Democratic party here - at the national level - has become so utterly fixated on taking power at all costs that it will say or do anything necessary to get there. I'm in a discussion on another board where we were discussing the recent announcement that the DNC is already lining up its court challenges for the election. That tells me that - put quite simply - the Democratic party no longer accepts the fact that its policies are unacceptable at the national level, and they will follow any route, including a judicial coup, to win.
Mike
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Kerry knows he can not afford politically to spew utter nonsense.
Well, not all the time, at least. Sometimes is okay, apparently... (see "foreign leaders" claim)
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"The Democratic party here - at the national level - has become so utterly fixated on taking power at all costs that it will say or do anything necessary to get there"
Ya gotta wonder what Kerry's "Band of Brothers" is going to think of him when he sends out vast armies of Democratic Party lawyers next November to fan out across the nation and disqualify every military absentee ballot they can get their filthy hands on, just like Al Gore did.
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.Com, you're being disrespectful to whores with your comparison.
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DK - Hmmm. Re-read my comment - I didn't say it because it would be too derogatory. I believe the distinction was clear.
No, I'm with you - offending real whores so egregiously by comparing them to the worst of the political variety of "For Sale" people is entirely unacceptable! I respect them too much, so I declined to follow through on the comparison.
My sincerest apologies to whores everywhere for any misunderstanding! When you don't steal my wallet or slip me a mickey, you rock!
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Dumb ole me, I thought it was Islamofascist Morrocans that placed the bombs that killed all the innocents in Madrid. (The victim shouldn't have been dressed like that and she wouldn't have been raped.)
Deano's feigned wrath is misdirected and politically counter productive. Keep this up in Kerry's name, Howie. We all know how well the screech worked for you in the primaries.
What's the politically correct term for "talking out one's ass?"
One of the presidential nominating season's most unusual ideas was proposed again Tuesday, this time by one of the most powerful Democrats in Congress, when Sen. Joseph Biden advocated a "unity" ticket of Democratic Sen. John Kerry and Republican Sen. John McCain. Biden made his comments on MSNBC TV's "Hardball" when moderator Chris Matthews asked him: "Do you think McCain is seriously â and I mean this professionally â flirting with the idea of accepting a second place on the ticket with John Kerry, and creating a fusion ticket to run against the president?" Replied Biden: "I think that this is time for unity in this country, and maybe it is time to have a guy like John McCain â a Republican â on the ticket with a guy he does like. They do get along. And they don't have fundamental disagreements on major policies."
Other than McCain supports the WoT and the Iraq liberation, and Kerry doesn't. Oh, and McCain's a capitalist and Kerry isn't. Oh, and McCain will stand up for what's right, and Kerry will stand for what's right and wrong, depending on which side has the better vigorish at the moment.
When asked by Matthews if he would support such a ticket, Biden said, "I would. Yeah, if John Kerry said that's who he wanted, and McCain â I'd encourage McCain to say yes. I doubt whether John would do it. I doubt whether John McCain would do it. But, you know, we need some unity here, man. The red states and the blue states â we've got to have something to coalesce around here." The notion that a lifelong Republican like McCain would join the Democratic ticket is widely dismissed by many Washington observers, but McCain himself fanned the flames when he said last week on an ABC News show that he would "entertain" joining Kerry on the Democratic ticket. "John Kerry is a close friend of mine. We have been friends for years," McCain said on "Good Morning America" on Wednesday. "Obviously I would entertain it."
He was having some fun, and trying to close Cheney's coronary grafts at the same time.
But the Arizona senator's chief of staff, Mark Salter, shot the idea down a short time later, saying that he had McCain's approval to firmly announce that "Senator McCain will not be a candidate for vice president in 2004." And despite his close relationship with Kerry, McCain himself had cast such an invitation as highly unlikely. "It's impossible to imagine the Democratic Party seeking a pro-life, free-trading, non-protectionist, deficit hawk," he said. Biden's endorsement of such a ticket Tuesday is likely to bring a fresh round of speculation in Washington. The Delaware Democrat is the ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and considered his own bid for the presidency this year. Writing for MSNBC.com, NBC News analyst and Newsweek Senior Editor Howard Fineman pointed out that McCain and Bush have remained fairly bitter rivals since the 2000 campaign in which Bush beat McCain for the Republican nomination: "Truth be told, John McCain really can't stand George W. Bush, even if he agrees with him on a lot of things, especially Iraq." In the primary campaign in 2000, Fineman wrote, "The good ol' boy supporters of the Bush team savaged McCain and his family, spreading vicious rumors about their character and racial makeup."
That's what makes all this barely plausible.
So despite remaining firmly in the GOP camp and even campaigning for the president, McCain isn't above tweaking Bush and his re-election team by pretending to consider a place on the Democratic ticket, Fineman explained.
Maybe Kerry can get Pat Buchanan...
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Yes, the Islamos are seeking a fusion bomb, and this looks like their ticket.
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What dotards like Finemyn forget is that the potato-faced McCain't ran ads in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina morphing the face of President Bush into the face of billy bin clinton with the voice-over stating, "Bush lies like Clinton." Consequently, the BUSH TEAM had every right to savage the neckless one. Unfortunately, the kind and gentle BUSH TEAM had nothing to do with the self-financed and self-motivated redneck who smeared McCain't "and his family". If McCain't despised President Bush, he would not be working for President Bush's re-election in any way, shape or form. There are two Republicans the Democrats in the press love. Colin Powell due to his skin color and the RACIST, WHITE SUPREMACIST belief helf by white democrats all black men must be democrats. And McCain't who will reliably shoot off his mouth when cued by leftist news media types looking to smear Republicans.
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Well,there is a Republican in high standing available.One who is unhappy with his party right now,because he feels unfairly ostracized by it.He has a distinguished record as a Senator,and he works well with the Democrats.To add to that,he is a pro-defence Southerner.
Ladies and Gentlemen,meet John Kerry's new VP:
TRENT LOTT!
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"John Kerry is a friend of mine." That's enough said right there. BUT, when I was living in Virginia Beach VA a few years ago, some Vietnam Vets were conducting a ceremony at a park to honor the POWs. I went over to talk to them and asked them what they thought about McCain, who, at the time, was getting a lot of media attention regarding the upcoming election. These guys actually served with McCain in Nam and they really, really, really hate his guts. They told me he betrayed their friends numerous times to the enemy and brokered deals with the North Vietnamese to protect himself--to keep himself safe. They said his whole spiel is bullsh-t, and that he's spent all the years since pawning himself off as some kind of ex-POW American "hero" in order to hide what really happened. They said many of the POWs (i.e their fellow soldiers/friends) wouldn't even be in Nam (or dead, now) if it weren't for McCain. As many times as these guys would spit whenever they said his name--well, I don't think the park service needed to turn on the sprinklers that week.
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In 1976, as a young Airman in the USN, fresh out of "A" school. I was stationed at Cecil Field Florida with VA-174, the A-7 training squadron.
Shortly after my arrival, none other than (at the time) Commander John McCain was piped aboard as the Commanding Officer.
As a Plane Captain trainee working the flight line I had numerous opportunities to interact with the Cmdr., and observe his interactions with others. I can tell you with complete sincereity,
that he is an arrogant and contemptuous ass.
Anyone that takes him at face value is seriously delusional. He is a perfect politician, and all that goes with it! Spit!!!
-AR
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ex-lib / Analog Roam -- Thank you! As someone who hasn't had access to such information before, I accepted the bio "as is" without reservations. Your input has definitely changed that notion - and I will be appropriately skeptical in the future. His arrogance is visible, but not overwhelmed by his on-camera charm. So I've been fooled until now.
I suspect that, for guys like Skeery and McCain, opening the past to honest scrutiny is a terrifying prospect - at least until they get so benumbed by their own bullshit that they actually begin to believe it themselves. And aggressive image defense should've piqued my suspicions... *slaps self on forehead* F**kin Duh.
Thanx, again, for your comments... my gullibility quotient on McCain has been drastically reduced!
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And it's sKerry, isn't it, who played the "POW's in Nam? What POW's in Nam?" game during the Reagan admin. I wouldn't be surprised at all if McCain runs with Kerry. That way they could protect each other's pathetic histories. I know McCain sure doesn't want anyone finding out what he did. I wonder----how far back do McCain and Kerry go? . . . hmmm . . . Bet they know the same guys that are still there (or were there) in the prisoner camps. Anyway, I wish YOU GUYS could've seen and talked to those guys in the park. It was so sad. They were still (understandably) really broken up about their missing buddies. And still completely po'd at McCain and all the cover up.
.com, don't feel bad. At the time I thought McCain might be cool too. That's why I thought I'd wander over and ask them--who better than a bunch of Viet Nam vets to talk to about McCain being "an American hero" and all . . . I sure got an education that day!
When we speak of a global information revolution, the effect of video images is more immediate and intense than that of computers. Image trumps text in the mass psyche, and computers remain a textual outgrowth, demanding high-order skills: computers demarcate the domain of the privileged. We use technology to expand our wealth, power, and opportunities. The rest get high on pop culture. If religion is the opium of the people, video is their crack cocaine. When we and they collide, they shock us with violence, but, statistically, we win.
As more and more human beings are overwhelmed by information, or dispossessed by the effects of information-based technologies, there will be more violence. Information victims will often see no other resort. As work becomes more cerebral, those who fail to find a place will respond by rejecting reason. We will see countries and continents divide between rich and poor in a reversal of 20th-century economic trends. Developing countries will not be able to depend on physical production industries, because there will always be another country willing to work cheaper. The have-nots will hate and strive to attack the haves. And we in the United States will continue to be perceived as the ultimate haves. States will struggle for advantage or revenge as their societies boil. Beyond traditional crime, terrorism will be the most common form of violence, but transnational criminality, civil strife, secessions, border conflicts, and conventional wars will continue to plague the world, albeit with the "lesser" conflicts statistically dominant. In defense of its interests, its citizens, its allies, or its clients, the United States will be required to intervene in some of these contests. We will win militarily whenever we have the guts for it.
There will be no peace. At any given moment for the rest of our lifetimes, there will be multiple conflicts in mutating forms around the globe. Violent conflict will dominate the headlines, but cultural and economic struggles will be steadier and ultimately more decisive. The de facto role of the US armed forces will be to keep the world safe for our economy and open to our cultural assault. To those ends, we will do a fair amount of killing.
-- Col. Ralph Peters, USA (Ret), "Parameters", Summer 1997
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Will this effect cause some Internet dabblers to post incoherent statements and poorly constructed poetry while claiming irrelevant restaurateuring expertise on a Warblog?
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There will be no peace. At any given moment for the rest of our lifetimes, there will be multiple conflicts in mutating forms around the globe. Violent conflict will dominate the headlines, but cultural and economic struggles will be steadier and ultimately more decisive.
In other words, everything's back to the pre-Cold War norm.
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LOTS of problems with Col. Peters' assumptions, if that's who really wrote this. First, it's extremely simplistic. The typical War College article covers about 3500 words (this is under 1000), has dozens of footnotes, and contains at least two major references. It also has to meet peer review. This is one man's opinion, period. Doesn't matter who the man is, it's still JUST opinion.
Col. Peters leaves out several cogent points:
1:) Information technology is expanding at a rate that could never have been imagined in the 1980's. Today's military is linked on the battlefield, and the rest of the world is linked in every other environment. People that ten years ago had little access to computers are daily users today. The number of people using computers on a regular basis is ten times the estimate of only five years ago.
2:) Computer technology has expanded so rapidly, and so strongly, that computers are no longer ONLY a "textual" media, but include audio, video, and other compbinations only a few were dreaming of in the 1990s.
3:) Nothing is "static". Today's allies may be tomorrow's adversaries - on the battlefield, in the marketplace, politically, or in some other arena.
4:) Finally, I doubt Col. Peters or any of his contemporaries were ready for the explosive nature of religious controversy in today's society, from militant Islam to slinking Christianity, to the degradation of western culture by such phenomenas as "gay marriage", "gay bishops", and the surrender culture of Old Europe.
All things change, and usually in the way least expected. Murphy's Third Law of Disaster
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There is a degree of truth in the article, but OP's right: extremely simplistic. I'm not privvy to OP's info on War College article stats, but I'd bet my ass he's right.
OP's points regards technology advances are spot-on, too. I have had to "re-invent" myself about every 18 months for the 9 years I've been doing Internet stuff. Hell, I'm signing up for more classes NOW - and I've been programming for 30 yrs and doing work in the Internet world since before the WWW even existed - and I was a dedicated user of Mosaic before there was a ripoff of the code called Nutscrape. Taxpayers have paid for this and SCO and Linux and a host of other computer system products. Gates at least bought DOS from Tom Green at Seattle Computing, although $50K smacks of the $24 in beads for Manhatten Island, nowadays, heh. Sorry for the O/T, but everyone should see the PBS documentary Triumph of the Nerds at least once. I can post the transcript of the show if anyone wants to read it.
What Col Peters contends is pretty obvious, on the whole. Haves vs have-nots is the historical us vs them equation - and without a ton of additional depth and current-day implications, with a healthy pile of researched footnotes, is less than one would expect to have passed peer review. Is there something missing, here? One would think so.
Though the "authoritative" sources decry the statement that we are in a "clash of civilizations", I am unable to buy their logic. Indeed, the religious indoctrination of 1/5th of the world's population (to use the popular numbers) being hijacked by the Wahhabi "extremists", effectively unopposed by the mythological moderates, with the clearly stated aim of destroying all other ideologies -- well, heh, that makes it clear to me that it is, indeed, correct to characterize it as a clash of civilizations. Nothing less fits.
And I see no references to the apocalyptic-level end that becomes inevitable when the implacable wave of zealots, by acquiring and bending our technology to their ends, forces the hand of civilization to defend itself from annihilation.
What he DOES get dead-right is: "We will win militarily whenever we have the guts for it."
U.S. officials on Tuesday unveiled plans for the first ever use of unmanned aerial "drones" to detect illegal immigrants, smugglers and terrorists along Arizonaâs border with Mexico. The $10-million Arizona Border Control initiative adds two unmanned aircraft, four new helicopters and 260 Border Patrol agents to forces patrolling a 350-mile stretch of border, a Department of Homeland Security official said.
A rise in violent crimes in Arizona cities -- attributed to clashes between rival smuggling rings -- spurred the action, department spokesman Roger Maier said. State authorities are alarmed by an upsurge in shootouts and kidnappings by smugglers trying to steal one anotherâs human cargo, and by rising demand for services for immigrants found imprisoned in "drop houses" or wandering the desert, he said. The drones, which have been tested but never used to patrol the border, were expected to begin flying in June. The Mexican government has been briefed on the operation, and consular officials attended its kick-off in Tucson on Tuesday. A Mexican consular spokeswoman was not immediately available for comment. The multi-agency effort is "unlike anything ever attempted" and is designed to discourage immigrants from crossing alone or hiring "coyotes" or guides to make the treacherous journey, Maier said. arming them w/hellfire missiles not a bad idea either
It provides funds for cameras and other surveillance devices, and adds detention space and six federal prosecutors to speed the migrantsâ return to their countries. At least 346 immigrants from Mexico and Latin America died in the year ended September 2003 trying to cross the U.S.-Mexican border, mainly of dehydration and exposure.
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This is pretty useless. OK, they'll be able to take pictures of illegals crossing the border. Ohhhh - that'll stop them. What they need to do is deputized the ranchers down here and let them defend their property, you'd see a huge drop off with a fraction of the cost.
The bottom line is the borders are just lines on a map and mean nothing if you aren't serious about protecting them. We're not serious about protecting them. This is just a halfassed PR stunt.
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We're not serious about protecting them.
On the contrary, we are. It's the government that isn't.
An experimental smallpox vaccine believed to be safer than the traditional vaccination has been shown in laboratory tests to effectively protect monkeys and mice against a pox virus, researchers say. A preparation called modified vaccinia Ankara (MVA) was found to prompt the immune system to produce antibodies and protective lymphocytes â white blood cells â about as effectively as the traditional smallpox vaccine, called Dryvax, when tested on monkeys. Dr. Bernard Moss of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, one of the National Institutes of Health, said the test proved that MVA was safer because monkeys injected only with MVA did not develop the sores and other side effects common in traditional smallpox vaccinations. A report on the monkey study is published this week in the journal Nature. A second study, in which mice were the test animals, is being published by the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Moss said when MVA was injected first into the monkeys and then followed with the traditional smallpox vaccine, some animals developed sores, but the lesions were much milder than with Dryvax alone.
This is what they needed to justify the human trials. Those should go ahead now.
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Won't Elineo the restaurateur be delighted to learn that his meat supply won't be threatened?
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Acid doesn't burn people, people burn people. No mention of any new laws to punish the assholes who do these crimes any harder. Taking a page from the Brady's.
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It's those Super Soaker-like assault weapons they really need to take off the market.
No, wait, I have a better idea! How about castration for all those wannabe Casanovas whose poor wittle egos can't handle rejection? Or how about tying them down and let the victim exact a little revenge with her own vial of acid?
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Fred, I appreciate your article, but does not come close conveying the horror of an "acid attack" For one thing, the substance is not "acid", but lye. Lye liquefies and destroys human tissue on contact. An "acid attack" is like blasting someone in the face with a flame thrower. In the eyes it produces instant, permanent and untreatable blindness. SEE THIS It's not for the faint of heart, and this victim still has eyes and is recognizably human. Other victims turn out far worse. Not even a graphic photo of the injury conveys the horror. An "acid attack" is a way to torture an individual for decades, and to terrorize an entire population. I wouldn't wish that on a Hitler or a Saddam.
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Acid attacks are a peculiarly South Asia tradition. I can't recall ever hearing of one elsewhere. My personal opinion is that the perps should be doused with sulfuric acid prior to receiving a one-round splitting headache. But then, I like women, so my opinion probably doesn't count.
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Thanks Tresho. Had no idea it was like that. What is WRONG with these people!!!!!!
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Victor Riesel (ca. 1913-1995) was an investigative reporter specializing in exposing corruption and organized influence on US labor unions. He had been scheduled to testify before a NY grand jury on labor racketeering. As a substitute host on a late night radio show on 05 April 1956, Riesel stated: "It's a lot more difficult to be a celebrity when it means taking your life in your hands," Later that morning, after leaving Lindy's restaurant in Manhattan, Riesel had "acid" thrown in his eyes, instantly and permanently blinding him. This made national headlines. Abraham Telvi and two other minor criminals were arrested, as was John (Johnny Dio) DioGuardi, allegedly a member of the Lucchese crime family. "DioGuardi beat the rap when a number of witnesses changed their minds about testifying... Not long afterwards, Telvi was gunned down, probably because he was threatening to spill the beans if he didn't get more money, or simply to ensure he never would talk." Riesel was not deterred and continued his activities. I was impressed by his courage both before and after theattack. The incident horrified the public and increased interest in thwarting organized crime. I've followed news about acid attacks ever since.
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What's left to be destroyed other than few more bomb factories?
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If Israel wanted to destroy Gaza it would be destroyed already. As a matter of fact, if Israel wanted to destroy any arab city, said city would be a radioactive wasteland by now.
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There's no proof that Isreal really does have nukes. The Arabs claim they do, but "credibilty" is lacking. Whether Isreal has nukes or not doesn't matter right now. The fact the they Arabs THINK they do gives them an advantage. Like when we bluffed the Japanese into thinking that we had more nuclear bomb in WW2.
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Walking out is okay. But to do this correctly you must walk out in a snit. I've only seen a few males do it correctly (Jonathan Winters for one) it's usually reserved for 13 year wymn.
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