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Excellent article and it demonstrates that great minds think alike, but I'm afraid we had this same story posted last Friday -- sorry Mr Bob! You DO have good taste, however!
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Part of what I missed. I don't buy the sqeezing of the oil price bit though. Thats a market price and would hurt China, Greece et al. But I agree with the rest.
43 needs to drop 41's baggage. He also needs to have this type of Saudi perfidy and confrontation made an open sore.
Demand the names of those wahhabi preachers, take us to them so we may kill them. They are our deadly enemies.
Young Saudis in the private and public sectors say their employers and managers harass them in an attempt to force them out of their jobs, according to Al Madinah newspaper. They allege this is a plot to prove that Saudis are bad workers and Saudiisation is a failure.
Tactics can include moving them from workplace to another, changing job descriptions, changing office hours, sending warning letters and verbally humiliating them, they say. Maher Mohammed worked in the private sector for two years before he says he was pushed out. "I was unemployed until I was taken on as a trainee by a private company under the Saudisation campaign," he said. "I worked very hard for one year trying to prove myself although I was not officially employed," said Maher. "After a year, my employer began harassing me. Then he began switching me from one store to another. I was patient and continued working as I had. I even cleaned and prepared tea for employees," he said. He said that he later learned that the owner was trying to drive out Saudis. "Out of four, three have left," he added.
Mohammed Ali told a similar story. "I worked with a Saudi owner who had stores here and outside the city," he said. "The foreign managers began hassling me whenever my boss was out. The store manager tried to force me out so his relative could take my position."
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03/15/2004 11:15:10 AM ||
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In Saudi Arabia the privileged class claims harassment and discrimination. Do the toilets flush backwards there too?
Posted by: Super Hose ||
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This is hysterical - in the classic sense, I think. I only have the gigantic Saudi Social Employment Agency, aka Aramco, as a first-hand reference, but I seriously doubt this comes anywhere near the truth. It most certainly is NOT true of Aramco - of that I am certain.
My JVC (Joint Venture Company) employer in Saudi had to "hire" multiple Saudis (6 in the office - 3 were Saudis) to satisfy Aramco reqs for being allowed to do business with them. I only ever saw ONE. The one Saudi employed there who actually ever showed up did, indeed, work for a living as translator and company rep when we had to do various things at Aramco - get ID cards, etc. For some functions, Aramco req'd an Arabic speaker. The others never even showed up. Like made-guy Vinnie's nephew being "hired" by the construction firm, they were on the payroll and an invisible anchor around my employer's neck.
To assert that private companies who've been forced to accept Saudization (else they're not allowed to do business with any Gov't entity - and that's where the money is, of course) have started applying reverse discrimination is, to put it mildly, novel. One complaint by a Saudi to the Labor Ministry would most probably result in the company's owner being de-certified from doing business - a very expensive thing since companies are required to "capitalize" a large amount of money (a portion is actually a deposit) and this is subject to confiscation (e.g. a "fine" fund) for various Labor or other legal infractions by any of its employees or directors. Now consider that the owner of the company is ALSO a Saudi - all Co's must be at least 51% Saudi-owned - well now, what does that tell you? When even a Saudi owner wants you gone, you must not be worth warm spit... certainly not worth the salary paid.
Probability of substantial truth - as implied by the lamentation of how hard one guy said he worked - is about 10%, IMHO.
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"I worked very hard for one year trying to prove myself although I was not officially employed," said Maher. "After a year, my employer began harassing me. Then he began switching me from one store to another. I was patient and continued working as I had. I even cleaned and prepared tea for employees," he said.
Maybe the 10% that is true was that he was just crap at everything he unofficially did. Being crap at making tea and cleaning was probably the last straw, for everyone. You get sacked, you get sad, you move on.(Speaking from unofficial experience). Lol.
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This is the exact same whining heard from my fellow employee's self-centered, spoiled, teen-aged brats whenever someone tries to get them to get off their asses and actually do something for themselves.
(My favorite soap opera: Coworkers in Cubes. 8 hours a day. Channels left, right, and across.)
Haiti's interim prime minister withdrew his ambassador to Jamaica on Monday and suspended relations in protest over ousted President Jean-Bertrand Aristide's arrival in the fellow Caribbean country for temporary asylum. Aristide's arrival in Jamaica has increased tensions in Haiti, where his followers plan more protests to demand the return of the country's first democratically elected leader. Aristide arrived with his wife, Mildred, at Norman Manley International Airport in Kingston, the Jamaican capital, 130 miles from Haiti. He immediately boarded a helicopter, refusing to make any comment. A Jamaican protocol officer said he was being taken to a residence of Jamaican Prime Minister P.J. Patterson. Haiti's new U.S.-backed leader, interim Prime Minister Gerard Latortue, said he was recalling the ambassador in Kingston, putting diplomatic relations with Jamaica on hold, and reconsidering Haiti's position with the 15-member Caribbean Community, which currently is chaired by Patterson.
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Venezuelaâs Supreme Court gave a major boost Monday to opponents of President Hugo Chavez, ruling that signatures on recall petitions need not be validated. The high court overturned a decision by the National Elections Council to force more than 1 million citizens to confirm they signed the petitions seeking a vote to recall Chavez. The court ordered the council to accept those signatures as valid unless citizens come forward to say they had not signed a petition. The ruling â while not guaranteeing a vote â was a big victory for Chavezâs opponents, who had claimed the councilâs decision had made holding the referendum nearly impossible.
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This is going to get ugly. Gustavo Coronel wrote this on 3/3:
Yesterday I was in downtown Valencia, for many years now one of the cleanest and most prosperous city in Venezuela. I could have been in downtown Baghdad. Barricades had been erected in many intersections of the city, fires had been started, and young and old protesters were hurling rocks and insults to the National Guard, while the heavily armed guards seemed to be enjoying the massive tear gas and buckshot attacks mounted on the unarmed civilians. I could have been in the Israel-Palestine conflict zone, where hate has already reached such a level that only killing seems to remain as a form of human interaction. That this was taking place in Venezuela, not only in Valencia but also in almost all cities of the country, in similar or even bigger scale, was almost unbelievable. Venezuela had been a peaceful society for half a century. Only senior citizens such as I remember the violence of the Perez Jimenez military dictatorship, during the 1950's. When the hated dictator escaped to Madrid where he lived happily ever after, helped by the several suitcases full of money that he took along in his hurried retreat, Venezuelans woke up from a nightmare and believed that never again they would have to suffer under a dictatorship. For almost 50 years this was the case. Venezuela had nine presidents elected in peaceful and democratic elections. Some were very mediocre, some reasonably good. A Venezuelan 40 years old had always lived in democracy, mostly in a country with little or no artificial monetary controls, enjoying increasing standards of living and the benefits of a strong currency.
Gas will soon hit $2.00 a gallon.
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it's $2.11 for regular in San Diego
El jefe needs to learn that half-a-crackdown will gt you strung up or exiled to Cuba. A full crackdown will kill the country. I see Civil War in Venezuela, and much higher gas prices
Posted by: Frank G ||
03/15/2004 17:49 Comments ||
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I see dinking around on all sides, strikes, shooting and bitching. Oil up 2 bucks a barrel.
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I'll miss the aggressive chest thumping and god-like chin thrusting when it's over. The Sopranos, I mean (hey, it'll end someday...).
Fuck Hugo, I hope they tar and feather the bastard. And fuck the other Kerry-lover oil whore candidates, OPEC, for sabotaging the US economic recovery with their oil policy.
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I like when all the American celibrity morons express their solidarity with Hugo. How hard can it be to comprehend the current regime is corrupt? The election board is asked to look at two simultaneous recall efforts. In the one to recall Chavez signature cards that have been partially filled out by a poll attendent are rulled invalid - against previous Venezuelan voting precedence. In the recall of opposition members the same process of partially filling out signature cards is ruled fully legal. Not even Broward County would try that.
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As the Blogfather says, theyâre on the other side.
The navies of China and France begin joint naval exercises on Tuesday off the northern Chinese coast in what Beijing says will be the "most comprehensive" military drills with a foreign power by a fleet under the command of the Peopleâs Liberation Army. Although they are being conducted some distance from Taiwan, the exercises will take place just days before sensitive presidential elections on the island, over which China claims sovereignty. well, we know how Paris feels about democracy ....
France angered Taiwan recently by strongly condemning President Chen Shui-bianâs plan to hold a referendum on missile defence alongside Saturdayâs election, prompting Taipei to suspend top-level ties with Paris. France is also lobbying EU countries to drop the 15-year-old embargo on arms sales to China, imposed after the brutal 1989 suppression of pro-democracy demonstrators in Beijing and other mainland cities.
"Oui. Those guys've been dead for over ten years. They don't matter anymore."
The exercises involve staging search and rescue missions, refuelling exercises and tactical helicopter exchanges - a level above recent Chinese contacts with other visiting western navies, which have been restricted to routine drills and communication exchanges. Ju Xinchun, the captain of the Harbin, a guided-missile destroyer, said at the base of the North China Fleet of the PLA Navy headquartered in Qingdao, that the Chinese had much to learn from the history and combat effectiveness of the French. "The French navy is experienced, and we are eager to learn from them about their experience in coordination skills in joint exercises," said Mr Ju.
Not to be ungenerous, but does anybody recall the last time the French navy won one?
Zhang Chu, an editor at International Outlook, a Shanghai-based magazine, said France had maintained strong ties through much of the 1990s with Chinaâs defence establishment, despite the arms embargo. Iâll bet - it seems to be a pattern with the French ....
"China wants to co-operate with traditional European powers, and France, as a stringent critic of the US, and a fervent advocate of lifting the arms embargo, was the country likely to take the initiative," Mr Zhang said. Andrew Yang, a defence analyst based in Taipei, played down the significance of the exerciseâs proximity to the Taiwan elections, saying the drills were similar to those conducted recently by the PLA Navy with the fleets of India and Pakistan. "It does not have direct implications for the situation in Taiwan," said Mr Yang, who said it was more a reflection of Chinaâs determination to forge ties with foreign fleets. Christine Allain, second in command of a French light frigate participating in the exercises, was quoted in Chinaâs press as saying that she was impressed by the skills of the Chinese naval officers and their "good command of English". The five-day tour is the 12th by French warships to China
#2
Remember that famous photo of the One Chinese Man standing stock still in front of the column of four Chinese tanks? Chirac was cheering for the tanks. "That man, he is so ...unilateral, so lacking in nuance!"
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Did y'all know that either country even had a navy to speak of?, cause I didn't.
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Pull.out.of.NATO.
Posted by: Ray ||
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Guess what? The PLAN (Peoples Liberation Army Naval forces) used to buy TONS of French Navy stuff. Mostly costal defense equipment and some small patrol craft. Maybe the French wan to sell them their used Aircraft Carrier? Although I donât have a lot of respect for the French government, they do produce some really good armaments. This doesnât count when it comes to Carriers. My guess is that they are showcasing some gear for the PLA in hopes to get a buy or two under the table now and more when (and if) the arms embargo gets lifted. Question for the class: Is what France is doing called multilateralism or unilateralism?
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Taiwan has accused Beijing of intimidation, after China announced it would stage naval drills with France in the run-up to Taiwanâs elections. The official Chinese news agency, Xinhua, said they would be Chinaâs biggest ever joint military exercises with a foreign power. But the agency made no link between the exercises off the port of Qingdao and the elections this Saturday. No connection at all, nope, nope.
China has a history of flexing its military muscles just before Taiwan goes to the polls. It has also been especially critical of Taiwanâs first-ever referendum, also being held on Saturday, which Beijing views as a provocative step towards independence. Beijing views everything as a provocative step
"If this weekâs planned exercises are as large as those China held in 1996 they will clearly amount to an attempt to intimidate Taiwanâs voters," Joseph Wu, deputy secretary general to Taiwan President Chen Shui-bian, told BBC News Online. I donât think the Taiwanese are as easy to intimidate as the Spanish.
"This will be Chinaâs most comprehensive naval exercise with any foreign navy," said Xinhua, quoting Ju Xinchun, captain of the Chinese guided missile destroyer, Harbin. China held its first ever joint naval exercises last year, when it conducted separate drills with both Pakistan and India. This will be its first exercise on the high seas with a major Western power, said Xinhua. Major power? I thought they were exercising with France?
The French Goverment confirmed the exercises but denied there was any significance in their scale or timing. "They are part of the regional cooperation between the two navies, which was expanded after last yearâs visit to France by Chinese President Hu Jintao," said a spokesman for the French Foreign Ministry in Paris. Demonstrating French arms, hoping for a sale. Just when was the last French naval victory, the seventeen hundreds?
French warships - including the French anti-submarine warfare destroyer Latouche-Treville and light frigate Commandant Birotplan - will carry out joint search-and-rescue exercises and other drills with the North China Sea Fleet of the Peopleâs Liberation Army. Chinese missile tests immediately before Taiwanâs first direct presidential elections eight years ago prompted the US to send two aircraft-carrier battle groups to the area, in its biggest military deployment in the region since the Vietnam War. The US will be annoyed with both sides taking part in this weekâs exercises, say analysts. "The timing is very insensitive - it could not be worse," said Jean-Pierre Cabestan, a senior China specialist at the French National Centre for Scientific Research. "This is going to create additional tensions - both between Taiwan and China and between the United States and France," he told BBC News Online. Just keep digging, Jacques.
Taiwan suspended high-level government contacts with France earlier this year after French President Jacques Chirac sided with China in opposing President Chenâs plan to hold a referendum on missile defence. France has also drawn criticism from both Washington and Taipei by spearheading moves to lift a European Union ban on arms sales to China, imposed in the wake of the violent suppression of the Tiananmen Square protests in 1989.
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the De Gaulle gonna be there? Oh, that's right, it has a 50 mile cruising radius before refitting is needed
Posted by: Frank G ||
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This is a calculated bet. The idea is that the Taiwanese will cave, just like the Spanish, in response to China's show of force - and elect the KMT. Will this bet pay off? We'll find out in a week.
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I know that I should not be surprised, but the French never cease to amaze me. Joint naval exercises with the ChiComs. BTW, Jacques, how's the leClerc Tank deal going with the Saudis?
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To me, this is no big deal. Since when is the presence of the French military in a "show of force" troubling to anyone (although for some, such as John F***ing Kerry, the absence of the French military in Iraq and elsewhere is troubling)? He's always talking about the "lessons of Viet Nam." Shouldn't one lesson he learned from Viet Nam be that the French are Le Pussies?
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A "hot" response on a French ship of the line by Taiwan would be a hoot. Could you imagine the feathers flying. What would they do, boycott?
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Just when was the last French naval victory, the seventeen hundreds?
Actually, it was 1943 when the battleship Jean Bart fired 15" naval guns on Ameican infantry invading Morocco. For a while. The USS Massachusetts (imagine naming a warship after that state today!) dropped a 16" shell on the one working turret of the JB, jamming it. French honor was upheld.
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A "hot" response on a French ship of the line by Taiwan would be a hoot. Could you imagine the feathers flying.
Glad to see you're back, no one does weird images better than you.
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... the French want to sell ASW tech to the Chinese?
While I like the general direction the Chinese leadership appears to be going, this really disturbs me. Part of the difficulty they would have invading Taiwan is their lack of ASW.
Giving China the means to overcome that hurdle might not lead to trouble, but why tempt stupidity?
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Whoa! Prodi sure must have a Big Dick! It certainly takes some Big Balls to:
In May 2003 Mr Prodi affirmed that they could not have any of the documents that they had asked for because "the contract contains economic and technical information and its disclosure would undermine the interests of the contractors".
So fuck off! We're busy cooking books and stealing Eeeewwww tax money! See my dick? Eees very very big, no? I don't have to answer any foolish questions! I am Prodi! Wow!
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When they bombed the Khurds, terrorism was repudiated. When they bombed the Turks, terrorism was repudiated. When they bombed the Shiites, terrorism was repudiated. When they bombed the EU member ....
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Spainâs prime minister-elect, Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, vowed to withdraw troops from Iraq and criticised US President George W. Bush after Spanish voters ousted the government that dragged their country into the controversial war. "The war in Iraq was a disaster, the occupation of Iraq is a disaster," Zapatero, 43, told Cadena Ser radio Monday. Chuck U. Farley...
His Socialist Party on Sunday dealt the conservative Popular Party (PP) of outgoing Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar a surprise defeat in general elections coloured by last Thursdayâs bombings of crowded Madrid commuter trains that killed 200 people and wounded 1,500. An ongoing investigation into the attacks has found growing evidence they were carried out by Islamic extremists linked to Al-Qaeda as punishment for Spainâs help in the invasion and occupation of Iraq. An undersecretary in the US Department of Homeland Security, Asa Hutchinson, told NBC television Monday: "Iâm satisfied that there is an Al-Qaeda connection."
Spainâs Socialists won 43 percent of the ballots to 38 percent for the PP, largely because of the near-total public opposition to the war, Zapatero said. Turnout was a high 77 percent, reflecting the strong emotions in the aftermath of the attacks. Many voters had expressed anger at Aznar, who had previously announced he was retiring after the elections. He was jostled and booed at Sunday while some protesters shouted "Aznar: your war, our dead." Brain-dead protestors: Your face, my ass.
Zapatero, making good on an pre-election pledge, said that barring new developments in Iraq before June 30 -- the date the United States has promised to hand power over to an Iraqi provisional government -- Spainâs 1,300 troops in Iraq "will return home". The other occupying states will be contacted for consultations on withdrawing the soldiers, he said.
"Us Spaniards are leaving. You should, too."
The announcement sparked alarm among other countries which had contributed troops to the US occupation. Then theyâre too easily alarmed. Spanish troops are nice to have, but hardly essential.
A spokesman for British Prime Minister Tony Blair said in London Blair had phoned Zapatero for a "warm and friendly" chat that covered "a wide range of topics". The two agreed to meet in about six weeksâ time, when Zapatero takes office. Blair, like Aznar, saw public support evaporate after he committed his country to the US war on Iraq in defiance of widespread public opposition. US President George W. Bush also made a congratulatory phone call. Never hurts to be polite, even if you know itâs pointless.
An analyst at Londonâs Royal Institute of International Affairs, Chris Wright, said that, though Spainâs contingent was only a fraction of the occupying forces, the pressure would now be on other contributing nations. The pull-out could be "an indication perhaps that the coalition is beginning to weaken, possibly unravel." Asshat.
Zapatero firmly aligned himself with France and Germany, which opposed the war from the start, in calling the invasion an "error". Error...Error...Must STERILIZE!....
Spainâs contingent, the sixth-largest in Iraq, has suffered 11 deaths, including those of seven intelligence agents ambushed in November. Bush and Blair, both of whom are facing elections in coming months, need to engage in "self-criticism," Zapatero said. Besa me assmo, chingador..
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Wouldn't it be a kick in the ass if the Madris bombings are, in the end, proven to be ETA?
And how brave of CastroChavez Zapatero to pull troops on the same time table as the US handover of Iraqi power. If he really had any balls he would do it as soon as he takes the oath of office.
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Jesus... this sonofabitch isn't wasting any time, is he?
Oh, well. Whatever Zapatero does or does not do from this point on is not the problem. The problem is the message Al Qaeda and other Islamofascists will take from yesterday's pathetic performance in Spain: bombing just before an election is a good tool for getting democracies to run away with their tails between their legs. So now they'll do more of it.
A LOT more.
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here's a song about this
FROM MONTY PYTHON'S HOLY GRAIL SONGS OF ROBIN'S MINSTRELS.
as Sir Robin is entering the forest on his individual quest
BRAVELY BOLD SIR ROBIN WENT FORTH FROM CAMELOT.
HE WAS NOT AFRAID TO DIE.
OH BRAVE SIR ROBIN!
HE WAS NOT AT ALL AFRAID TO BE KILLED IN NASTY WAYS.
BRAVE, BRAVE, BRAVE, BRAVE, SIR ROBIN.
HE WAS NOT IN THE LEAST BIT SCARED TO BE MASHED INTO A PULP,
OR TO HAVE HIS EYES GOUGED OUT
AND HIS ELBOWS BROKEN;
TO HAVE HIS KNEE CAPS SPLIT
AND HIS BODY BURNED AWAY
AND HIS LIMBS ALL HACKED AND MANGLED. BRAVE SIR ROBIN!
HIS HEAD SMASHED IN
AND HIS HEART CUT OUT
AND HIS LIVER REMOVED
AND HIS BOWELS UNPLUGGED
AND HIS NOSTRILS RAPED
AND HIS BOTTOM BURNED UP...
as Sir Robin retreats from confrontation with 3 headed warrior
BRAVE SIR ROBIN RAN AWAY.
BRAVELY RAN AWAY, AWAY!
WHEN DANGER REARED ITS UGLY HEAD,
HE BRAVELY TURNED HIS TAIL AND FLED.
BRAVE SIR ROBIN TURNED ABOUT,
SO GALLANTLY HE CHICKENED OUT.
BRAVELY TAKING TO HIS FEET,
HE BEAT A VERY BRAVE RETREAT,
BRAVELY SLUNK AWAY, SIR ROBIN.
as Sir Robin joins the Camelot party and the Knights who say,"Nee."
HE IS PACKING IT IN AND PACKING IT UP
AND SNEAKING AWAY AND BUGGERING OFF
AND CHICKENING OUT AND FIGGING A PULP,
YES, HE IS BRAVELY THROWING IN THE SPONGE.
#6
As I said on "Allah's" site, this reminds me of that MXC episode where, during "Boulder Dash", some guy charged up the hill flailing his arms, saying "It will not touch me, will not touch me, will not touch me..." then got f'ng creamed.
Can't help thinking the Spanish are gonna wake up a week from now, wondering what the hell they've just done. This Zapa guy sounds like a cross between Chirac and Schroeder, "and that's not gonna be good for anybody."
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Ditto what Dave D. said. It's really bad that the Spaniards will pull their troops. Such an immediate statement of intent has made certain that Britain, Spain, Italy, and Poland will be struck shortly. It has clearly been demonstrated that actions such as the U.S. withdrawl from Beirut and the Israeli withdrawl from South Lebanon, though from our point seemingly a tactical retreat, are seen by the Terrorists as a strategic victory.
This also reiterates a part of the Powell doctrine which requires a mandate of public opinion before going to war. Leaders who fight the majority of public opinion are setting themselves up for getting the boot when something goes wrong, as perceived by the populace. I wonder if the Spanish government wouldn't have fallen so hard if the PM and others had not tried so hard to direct the blame onto ETA. The mishandling of that might just have been the final straw that broke the back of the public's trust.
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Again, he's aiming his "consultations with other occupying states" at the Latin American countries (e.g., Honduras) that have contributed troops. Small in number, their withdrawal alongside the Spanish will be seen as a second victory by al-Q.
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"This also reiterates a part of the Powell doctrine which requires a mandate of public opinion before going to war. Leaders who fight the majority of public opinion are setting themselves up for getting the boot when something goes wrong, as perceived by the populace."
Good point. And it has implications, too: ugly ones, both for us and for the Islamic world.
If I were George Bush right now, I'd be taking inventory of my many miscalculations over the last two and a half years. Here are ten of them:
** The notion that our so-called "allies", or even the American people themselves, have even the attention span--much less the intestinal fortitude--for a long, hard battle against totalitarian Islam. Apparently they do not.
** The notion that the liberal European democracies can sustain continued attacks from Islamist terrorists and still make intelligent collective decisions about their future security. As we saw in Spain on Sunday, some will just panic and run for the hills at the first sign of danger. Given the Spanish reaction, the bombers will no doubt be encouraged to try elsewhere, such as Italy, Greece or the U.K. and they may well succeed there, too.
** The notion that the American people are smart enough to figure out for themselves, without having to have it spelled out for them, very slowly and in very simple words, the many positive geopolitical ramifications of taking out Saddam Hussein's regime and parking an eighth of a million American troops in Iraq armed to the teeth, ready to start kicking the asses of a whole host of chronic troublemakers in the region. Evidently, a sizeable minority of Americans is capable of little more than bleating "But where are those WMDs you told us about? You lied to us!"
** The idea that the Democratic Party would, even briefly, be willing to put the nation's survival ahead of its own short term political ambitions for the sake of national unity. Clearly it is not.
** The idea that while the Democrats would surely continue running their other con-games (taxes, "free" health care for everyone, affirmative action, "diversity", etc.) on the American people during political campaigns in wartime, they would NEVER play dishonest games with national security. Clearly they are more than willing to do that.
** The notion that if we undertake military action in concert with other countries, that action will be seen as "multilateral" and, to the extent that that matters, legitimate. It's now obvious that we will be accused of "unilateralism" (or of operating within a "fraudulent coalition") no matter how many others are fighting alongside us.
** The idea (God, I hope Bush didn't actually believe this...) that Islam is inherently a "Religion of Peace", and all that is needed to help it fulfill its peaceful promise is to nudge it gently in the right direction. Islam, it is now clear, is little more than an aggressive, primitive death cult bent on destroying Western civilization.
** The notion that representative, constitutional democracy has any future in the Arab world. While it could be argued that the jury is still out on that, it is clear at least that installing democratic regimes in place of Arab tyrants is NOT going to be any kind of short-term cure-all.
** The idea that playing kissy-face with American Muslim leaders is going to buy their loyalty. They have been, are, and always will be, enemy collaborators.
** The idea that reassuring foreign Islamic leaders and clerics that we are in no way in a "war against Islam" will have any soothing effect whatsoever. It will not; for in fact they are at war with us, and have been for many, many years.
And what's the "lesson learned" from all this? Simple: the next time the Islamofascists attack America, just push the goddamn button and incinerate them all- or surrender without a fight.
Pick one, or the other. There's no in between.
(Sorry for the long rant...)
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Bush and Blair, both of whom are facing elections in coming months, need to engage in "self-criticism," Zapatero said.
Why should they bother? There are legions willing to supply the criticism for them.
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The notion that the liberal European democracies can sustain continued attacks from Islamist terrorists
Mainland Europe (including Greecians) hasn't been able to stave off Scovy Ducks since roughly 1814. I blame it on piss poor breeding and the Irish. Luckily the Irish have largely drank themselve unto death and saved us many bullets. Still the Irish threat continues especially in MA where the FAT one lives. And don't get me started on Irish Coousine.,. Cyusine... Food... It's the Devil's own menu. St. Paddy's Day is near, Be Armed! Be Alert! And if you can't be Alert! Wait for the FACTS!
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Shipman: I'd respond to what you wrote, but alas, I was eating when I read it. :)
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Why be so hard on Spain? Here in the good old USA about 50% are willing to surrender to terrorists and globalism as well. Our collective balls are no bigger and we may soon be in their shoes.
#15
From Gilbert& Sullivan's Gondiliers:
"My Child, The Duke of Plaza Toro does not follow fashions-he leads them. He always leads everybody. When he wasin the army he led his regiment. He occasionally led them into action. He invariably led them out of it."
In enterprise of martial kind,
When there was any fighting,
He led his regiment from behind-
He found it less exciting.
But when away his regiment ran,
His place was at the fore,O-
That celebrated,
Cultivated,
Underated
Nobleman,
The Duke of Plaza-Toro!
Omitting chourus
When to evade Destruction's hand,
To hide they all proceeded,
No soldier in that gallant band
Hid half as well as he did.
He lay concealed throughout the war,
And so presevred his gore,O!
That unaffected,
Undetected,
Well-connected
Warrior,
The duke of Plaza-Toro!
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go easy ship, if it wasn't for the whiskey, me and my laddies would rule the world right now! Now pass back that bushmills ya wee lad......
EF -- read article for full details
SEN. John Kerry boasts how he "sounded the alarm on terrorism years before 9/ 11," referring to his 1997 book "The New War." Too bad he didnât blast it when it really counted - four months before the hijackings, when he was hand-delivered evidence of serious security breaches at Logan International Airport, with specific warnings that terrorists could exploit them. Former FAA security officials say the Massachusetts senator had the power to prevent at least the Boston hijackings and save the World Trade Center and thousands of lives, yet he failed to take effective action after they gave him a prophetic warning that his stateâs main airport was vulnerable to multiple hijackings. "He just did the Pontius Pilate thing and passed the buck" on back through the federal bureaucracy, said Brian Sullivan, a retired FAA special agent from the Boston area who in May 2001 personally warned Kerry that Logan was ripe for a "jihad" suicide operation possibly involving "a coordinated attack."
The next day, Sullivan fired off a two-page letter to Kerry highlighting the systemic failures. "With the concept of jihad, do you think it would be difficult for a determined terrorist to get on a plane and destroy himself and all other passengers?" he warned. "Think what the result would be of a coordinated attack which took down several domestic flights on the same day. With our current screening, this is more than possible. It is almost likely." The toll from such an attack would be economic, as well as human, he predicted with chilling accuracy.
A fiery ex-Navy Seal, Elson spent three years as part of an elite FAA unit called the Red Team, which did covert testing of airport security across the country, before retiring as a field agent in Houston. He offered to fly to Washington at his own expense to give Kerry a document-backed presentation about the "facade of security" at Logan and other major airports. But a Kerry aide said not to bother. "Youâre not a constituent," Elson was told just a few weeks before the hijackings. He went ballistic, warning that if Kerry didnât act soon heâd risk the lives of planeloads of his actual constituents. That warning now looks like prophecy: At least 82 Kerry constituents were murdered aboard American Airlines Flight 11 and United Airlines Flight 175. "Enhanced security would have prevented the hijackings, virtually without question," Elson now insists. If nothing else, it might have discouraged ringleader Mohamed Atta, who monitored security procedures at Logan weeks before the hijackings.
Sullivan and Elson, joined by aviation-security experts David Forbes and Andrew Thomas, want to see Kerry hauled before the 9/11 Commission to answer questions about what he knew about Loganâs lapses, and specifically what he did about them, before that fateful day. Itâs a reasonable request - especially since Kerry has complained that President Bush will only give the panel an hour of his time. Where was Kerryâs sense of urgency? Where was his leadership? These are fair questions to ask of someone vying for Bushâs job.
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This has to be enough to get this incompetent fool out the way, can't bush put this in one of his campaign ads, after all kerry would if it were the other way around
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Yet the warnings apparently did stick in Kerry's mind: In the days after 9/11, Kerry told the Boston Globe that he'd triggered an undercover probe of Logan security by the General Accounting Office in June 2001.
But he wrote Sullivan no such thing in his July letter, stating only that he passed his warning and tape on to Transportation, not GAO. And GAO, though it is the investigative arm of Congress, didn't seem to know what the senator was talking about. The agency had tested security at two airports before 9/11, but neither one was Logan. And Kerry confessed he didn't know the outcome of the probe he says he triggered.
Sounds to me like a vintage Kerry fib.
But one thing puzzles me about this story: Why did these guys go only to Kerry? Or, if they did go to other pols, what was their response?
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LOL! I have no idea whether Skeery did what they allege - although these people have more credibility than Skeery, given his reckless disregard for truth thus far in the campaign. The truly funny thing to me is that this is exactly how the Jackass Party operatives work! It should be investigated, it should be done by a bona-fide Congressional Inquiry, and it should be led by a Special Prosecutor who gives juicy sound bytes on the nightly news every day. What's good for the goose...
Time for the Publican Leadership to get on the job and start this ball rolling. 8-)
Not on line anywhere I can see but I saw on broadcast TV that Al Shapton was dropping out of the race for the Dem nomination. This will leave Kucinich as the last dwarf standing. CNN also was endlessly repeating Kerryâs endorse by the Intl Firefighters Union (this was at least the 3rd time Kerry has appeared before them and CNN carried it). Kerry said something like, "we need to treat people as more than a prop" as he treated the firefighters as a prop.
US SENATOR John Kerry last night fought off accusations he was a coward and had made strategic mistakes in battle during the Vietnam War. The Democratic challenger for the White House was embroiled in fresh controversy after one of his former crew members accused him of being someone "who ran from the enemy". Itâs that french blood of his.
It was reported last night that Steven Gardner, a gunnerâs mate on the first patrol boat commanded by Kerry in the Mekong Delta, contradicts accounts of the senatorâs military career that depict him as a brave and aggressive lieutenant who won three Purple Hearts, which are a key element of his campaign against George Bush. He personally killed a Viet Cong fighter in one action and was wounded three times, though not seriously. Or, so he says. He was ranking officer and wrote his own award nomination.
However, in an interview with the Boston Globe, which contacted him about the presidential candidate, Gardner claimed: "He [Kerry] absolutely did not want to engage the enemy when I was with him. "He wouldnât go in there and search. That is why I have a negative viewpoint of John Kerry. "His initial patterns of behaviour when I met him and served under him were of somebody who ran from the enemy, rather than engaged it." Gardner also claimed that in an incident in 1968 in which he was slightly wounded, causing Kerry to abort the boatâs mission, he said: "Lt Kerry, Iâm fine, nothingâs wrong. I got a little flesh wound here. "But Kerry was already backing out of the canal, getting ready to run for it." "Evinrude, donât fail me now!"
Gardner has refused to join the tight-knit group of Vietnam veterans who are staunch supporters of their former comradesâ White House bid. Kerry had his boat crew, his "Band of Brothers", appear with him in the past. Boston Globe, a liberal paper if I ever read one, counted heads and came up one crewman short. They went looking for him, not the other way around.
However, Kerry has described his the former crewmanâs version of events as "made-up". "Itâs sad," he told his biographer, Douglas Brinkley, "but thatâs the way it goes in war, and especially in politics." If you disagree with Sen. Kerry, you must be wrong. Right?
Gardnerâs portrayal of a timid Kerry are at odds with the accounts of other crew members. Yes, we noticed. Either Gardner is just a troublemaker who doesnât like Kerry, or Gardner may have been a hard-charger who wanted to fight. Kerryâs crew may have been a group who wanted to stay as far away from any real fighting as possible. It would not have been hard, small crew on a small boat, cruising off by themselves. Patrol reports could have been "enhanced", decorations awarded for actions that didnât happen, etc.
John Hurley, the national director of the Vietnam Veterans for Kerry, said: "John was shocked by this. They all think heâs way off base. What about the Vietnam Veterans against Kerry? Anyone in the media ask them?
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More from UK Telegraph: John Hurley, the national director of Vietnam Veterans for Kerry, told the Telegraph: "John was shocked by this. Gardner said that John used to take the boat four or five miles offshore 'every single night' so that it would be out of harm's way. John doesn't remember that and neither does the rest of the crew. They all think he's way off base."
Relations between the two men reached their low point after a Vietnamese boy was killed in an encounter with a fishing boat. The Kerry crew opened fire believing their craft was under attack. According to Mr Gardner, Lt Kerry blamed him for the tragedy. "Kerry threatened me with a court-martial, screaming: 'What the hell do you think you're doing?' " said Mr Gardner. "Thankfully the whole crew verified there were weapons being shot at us. That was the end of it."
Sen Kerry described Mr Gardner's version of events as "made up". "It's sad," he told his biographer, Douglas Brinkley, "but that's the way it goes in war, and especially in politics," a reference to Mr Gardner's apparently Republican sympathies. "I've spent hours on the phone to him [Gardner]," said Mr Hurley. "But he won't back down on his story, even though the crew disagree with him." Mr Brinkley, who interviewed Mr Gardner for an hour last week, said afterwards: "It essentially boils down to one word: politics. Gardner is sickened by the idea of Kerry as president." An angry Mr Gardner, however, insisted: "I never made the first call to anyone. Until someone called me, I kept it all to myself."
More from Mens News Daily: But, according to the Boston Globe, one of Kerryâs former crewmembers, Steven M. Gardner, does not see the former lieutenant as ever being heroic. âHe absolutely did not want to engage the enemy when I was with him,â said Gardner. âHe wouldnât go in there and search. That is why I have a negative viewpoint of John Kerry.â Gardner, who served with three additional skippers on Swift boats, felt he had seen enough to make such a comparison. Gardner also recalls a shooting incident when his Swift boat came across a sampan in the darkness. There was a curfew and sampans were not allowed on the rivers at night. Gardner, who was in a machine gun 'tub', shined a spotlight on the sampan and was answered with gunfire. He fired his machinegun at the boat and saw one person fall overboard. All of the Swift boat crewmembers fired upon the sampan, with the exception of Kerry. When the firing ceased the crew examined the sampan and found one woman alive and a boy who was dead. Kerry started âscreaming at the top of his lungsâ, says Gardner. âHe threatened me with a court martial. âWhat the hell do you think youâre doing? I ought to have you court-martialedâ, he yelled.â Gardner claims the only thing, which quieted the incident, was the other crewmembers telling Kerry that the sampan had been firing upon themâ¦and that they too had returned fire.
Story is spreading in overseas press, but no "major" US media. Well, it's not like he missed a Guard meeting or anything.
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I am still waiting for Kerry to open up his military record. Some questions I dare to have are:
1) How did Kerry manage to get three purple hearts in the 5 months he was there?
2) What were the specifics of the wounds which earned him is purple hearts.
3) What exactly happened that earned him his silver star? Did he get it for rushing and finishing on an already dead VC?
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03/15/2004 13:26 Comments ||
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Crazyfool, I'm pretty sure he took one in the head. Latter he took a chest wound and still latter, while hard charging, he got another slug in the gut.
Luckily they had band-aids on board each time and no scaring took place.
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I love the headline!! That's what the Big Media has been doing to the right for YEARS - it's about time we do it back. Hey, you don't even have to lie - afterall- it's just reporting the FACT that the accused rejects the premise.
Big Media rejects it's funded by Saudi Money.
Katie Couric rejects she is annoying.
Democrats reject that they are logically challenged.
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03/15/2004 20:06 Comments ||
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B - Lol! And now I find the same game afoot in the Skeery story about Logan Airport, but there may just be fire behind the smoke in that one... and that story could have Congressional Inquiry legs... Perhaps the Bush people have decided to actually fight back - after all the BS spewed on them in the Jackass primaries...
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No, John Kerry is not a coward. Remember, he actually served in Viet Nam, unlike just about everyone in the Bush Administration (with the exception of Powell, who really doesn't count as a Bushie anymore). Also, Kerry got his Purple Hearts for minor wounds caused by shrapnel. He got his Silver Star for beaching his boat and rushing into the jungle and killing a Viet Cong who was firing rockets at his boat. Oh, and he got his Bronze Star for turning his boat around in the middle of a firefight in order to personally fish a member of another crew out of the water.
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EFL because most of the posting was not about the incident
Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, arguing that... The town meeting was contentious at times, with 52-year-old Cedric Brown repeatedly pressing the candidate to name the foreign leaders whom Kerry has said are backing his campaign [actually Kerry said he has met with leaders who have said this which is an egregious and pompous claim since his official schedule shows he hasnât even met with any leaders since he declared].
"Iâm not going to betray a private conversation with anybody," Kerry said. As the crowd of several hundred people began to mutter and boo, Kerry said, "Thatâs none of your business." [I think these were Kerry syncophants booing Mr. Brown but Iâm not sure]
- Dan, Peter and Tom should show the video but wonât but this, at least is enough to keep the issue alive
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I mentioned it in another thread, but this is probably the better place.
Kerry: "Are you a registered Republican? Are you a Republican? Answer the question."
A little later in the same exchange.
Kerry: "Did you vote for George Bush?"
(Apparently the man did, there were boos from the crowd.)
Kerry: "Thank you"
And the thing was dismissed.
To see him holding the microphone like a confrontational standup comic was the interesting part, to me. Fox & Friends had it this morning, but I didn't see the *NBC coverage.
Kerry is arrogant AND dishonest. Kerry should be pressed on this point for the next few weeks.
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Classic technique, skip the question and put the other guy on the defensive.
The guy should have not answered at the first question (about being a Republican), he should have replied: "Mr Kerry, whatever am I Republican, Democrat or the Pople it doesn't change the truth to my question, it is YOU not me who is asking the people to vote for you. It is YOU who has to answer questions: name those foreign leaders who endorse you."
Hope this helps if one of you ever has a chance to confront Kerry.
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I don't think that's particularly negative to Kerry - all it does is show that bringing up this subject is worthy of being booed.
I agree, it makes Kerry look like the Jerk that he is - but for his supporters, this creates the impression that this topic is not serious and need only be addressed with sneers and jeers of a right wing conspiracy. I think it's helpful for his supporters....though I don't know how it will play to the center.
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Here in the "People's Republic of PeeAyy," the unsophisticated dem drones lap up that sort of political doubletalk all the time. I'm sure in private conversations dems wish they could make every dem voter "think" as incisively as PeeAyy dem voters do.
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Kerry: "Are you a Republican?"
Right Answer: "I'm an American, Senator, and that's all that matters."
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03/15/2004 9:51 Comments ||
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If some of you have an occasion to confront Kerry remember the basics: In case he answers your question with another question (in that case Are you a Republican?), NEVER answer it, tell something like
"Who cares, it is you who are asking our votes", "I am an American and that's all that matters" and then IN THE SAME BREATH (don't let him skip to another guy) reformulate your question.
2) DON'T let him to sidetrack: as soon as it seems obvious that he has covertly changed subjects, interrupt him and reformulate the question. But don't do it too soon otherwise you will look rude to the audience. The audience must notice Kerry had sidetracked the question not that you cut him when he was answering him.
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JFM, You are, of, course assuming that the audience has not been hand-picked for this 'town meeting' (as in 'Sorry but the tickets have been sold out to the party faithful before it had even been announced.')
I think Clinton used to do this all the time (remember the boxers or briefs question?). Campaign organizers do not want their guy to be on-camera in a uncontrolled environment where they can be embarassed.
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"NBC actually reports an incident unfavorable to Kerry"
This statement was meant ironically, I know, but the truth is, Kerry's minders had better keep a close watch on that big mouth of his.
While it's true that the ABCCBSNBCCNNMSNBC news conglomerate is populated by blatant liberals who are absolutely dying to see Kerry elected, they're still a business; and the business of that business is to get audience share.
Just as with Bill Clinton and John McCain, the minute these newshounds get the notion Kerry is going to be a font of newsworthy, "get-a-load-of-this" verbal gaffes and fox paws, they're going to be on him like a duck on a Junebug. And they won't show him any mercy, either.
Keep 'em coming, Kerry.
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Dave, I have a better plan - turn off the TV and read the blogs. Hit them where it hurts, in their viewership.
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Wait till Katie Couric ask this same question and watch how he answers it. He'll be alot better rehearsed and Katie can crack a joke and quickly ask another, more personal question designed to hint at at little scandle. Between the sheets, hint, hint. Quick to the break then back again for a Kerry monologue.
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Dave D.: The ABCNBCCBS nightly news shared 60 MILLION VIEWERS in 1980. Today, the ABCNBCCBS nightly propaganda report is lucky to draw 18 MILLION VIEWERS. Danny, Penis and Tommy are FRIENDS who do not care about competing for AUDIENCE SHARE. If it was about AUDIENCE SHARE, one would expect at least ONE WING of the ABCNBCCBS network to cater to the vast audience of potential viewers who vote Republican. As for KKKerry: He is a lying sack of Teddy Kennedy's excrement. As KKKerry is campaigning for Republican votes, Republicans have every right to PLANT themselves in his townhall lovefests and ASK HIM TOUGH QUESTIONS. President Bush has to answer the questions of Democrat PLANTS everytime he stands for an interview with the reporters in the dominant left-wing media. President Bush is a MAN. KKKerry is a mYn.
from Wash Times... EFL / Fair Use
It wasnât exactly a stroke of genius. It was more a stroke of stupidity when Sen. John F. Kerry of Massachusetts and the Democratic presidential nominee presumptive, told a fund-raiser foreign leaders are pulling for him. He actually seems to believe this is an argument for his election.
Listen: "Iâve met foreign leaders who canât go out and say this publicly but, boy, they look at you and say, âYou gotta win this, you gotta beat this guy. We need a new policy,â things like that." Naturally these foreign leaders didnât identify themselves. They might look as if they were meddling. Because they would be. Just who are these people? John Kerry wonât say, but his critics in the GOP are only too glad to speculate: North Koreaâs Kim Jong-il? Iranâs mullahs? No, worse: Chirak & Friends. Decent analysis of who Skeery might have been referring to... in Paris.
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"Iâve met foreign leaders who canât go out and say this publicly but, boy, they look at you and say, âYou gotta win this, you gotta beat this guy. We need a new policy,â things like that."
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Dear #2: Good God, Man, next time you feel like commenting have the neighbor write it for you.You just grunt and have him figure it out and do the typing. No Child Left Behind missed you. TW
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"to masturbate cows and bull as was before the jooces tribes start support that scum"
Where the hell did that come from?
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Scott - It came from the black hole betwixt the ears of a looney, heh. Skeery is one or two rungs up the ladder in that his syntax occasionally gives one an opportunity to respond. ;-)
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#2 is an example of the intelligence of the people who intend to vote for kerry. Needless to say, they know nothing, absolutely nothing, about anything. All they can do is open their mouths and vomit random words.
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If anyone makes their vote based on what other countries care about, well, Senator JoKe is your man.
"Iâve met foreign leaders who canât go out and say this publicly but, boy, they look at you and say, âYou gotta win this, you gotta beat this guy. We need a new policy,â things like that.."
He hasn't met any (none, nada, zilch) foreign leaders since he declared.
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For a minute I thought Inter-Services Intelligence would be giving their input to airline security, although their experience in hijacking would come in handy.
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U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft was discharged from a Washington hospital on Sunday after an operation this week to remove his gallbladder. "The Ashcrofts are grateful for the many friends and well wishers who kept them in their thoughts and prayers during this illness," the Justice Department said in a statement. "They would also like to thank people for respecting the attorney general's need for quiet rest as he continues to recover." A department spokesman could not say when Ashcroft will return to work. That decision would be up to his doctors, but Deputy Attorney General James Comey will run the Justice Department until Ashcroft returns, the department said. Doctors found several gallstones after Ashcroft checked into George Washington Hospital 10 days ago with a severe case of gallbladder pancreatitis. His gallbladder was removed to prevent a recurrence of the illness, which is extremely painful and can be life-threatening.
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Handan Kocaer Ozer wants the Egyptian government to give her heritage, worth nearly 1 quadrillion liras, back to her. The court will make a final decision on Ozers legal case in June. 25,000 people have applied to Egypt so far to claim their rights from the Ottoman Empire. 23 of these have won their lawsuit, but only six applicants actually received payment in the amount of US$6,000. Ozer's case will be the first in the sense that it is the largest claim. If the court finds Ozers case to have merit, then assets of a quadrillion lira, including Cairo Airport field, four casinos and two Turkish baths will be given to Ozer. A special unit in the Foreign Ministry is closely following the case.
Oh, I'll bet they are. Sounds like she'll have a mortgage on half the country...
Ozer is cousin to Princess Zeynep Kamil, the daughter of Kavalali Mehmet Ali Pasha who was Egypt's governor during the Ottoman Era. Ozer, now 82 years old, lives in a retirement house on a retirement pension of 350 million liras. She secretly leaves food she buys at the doors of 10 poor people claiming this is a dynasty custom. Ozer plans to build a school and help to martyr families with the money she will receive from Egypt: "What belongs to the world stays in the world. We have never lived in luxury as the grandchildren of the Ottomans. We have been raised with the advice, 'if you have two pairs of shoes, donate a pair.' Mrs. Ozer said she requested support from then foreign minister and a family friend, Mesut Yilmaz, in 1988. Yilmaz brought up the issue during a visit to Egypt. Ozer explained: "Mr. Yilmaz called when he returned and said Egyptian officials told him there was nobody asking for their assets. But then, the government changed." When she later made similar initiations, Ozer said only President Ahmet Necdet Sezer, and former Prime Minister Abdullah Gul replied to her.
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Thanks for the link. I hadn't heard of or read Bob's blog before, but once I started reading I couldn't stop. Truly a good man who will be sorely missed by many. His writing really offers a clear insight into his heart and mind, and the world is a poorer place now with him gone.
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More from CNN. It takes true cowardice to gun down unarmed, unescorted civilians.
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Damn, I'm sorry, but if I were a contractor over there, I would never go anywhere without my .357âat the least. It is way too risky to be an unarmed Westerner over there. What a waste of good and decent humanity.
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I read his stuff. Damn sad. If you scroll down, there is an ironic photo of Iraqi cops waving to his camera. I wonder if the bastards who killed him are in that photo?
City officials were so concerned about the potentially dangerous properties of dihydrogen monoxide that they considered banning foam cups after they learned the chemical was used in their production. HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Then they learned that dihydrogen monoxide - H2O for short - is the scientific term for water. "Itâs embarrassing," said City Manager David J. Norman. "We had a paralegal who did bad research." IIRC, the joke petition was a science project.
The paralegal apparently fell victim to one of the many official looking Web sites that have been put up by pranksters to describe dihydrogen monoxide as "an odorless, tasteless chemical" that can be deadly if accidentally inhaled. Technically true. Just ask the crew of many a ship.
As a result, the City Council of this Orange County suburb had been scheduled to vote next week on a proposed law that would have banned the use of foam containers at city-sponsored events. Among the reasons given for the ban were that they were made with a substance that could "threaten human health and safety." Also, people dependent on it die if deprived of it.
The measure has been pulled from the agenda, although Norman said the city may still eventually ban foam cups. "Our main concern is with the Aliso Creek watershed," Norman said. "If you get Styrofoam into the water and it breaks apart, itâs virtually impossible to clean up." Thatâs a workable reason.
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Sounds to me like they're determined to ban styrofoam cups and they need an excuse. The excuse they happened to hit upon just made them look stoopid, but that's not deterrence if you actually are stoopid.
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Science by politicians....bad for your health? It should be banned
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You're right Frank. This reminds me of the Mississippi state legislator who several years ago introduced a bill to round Pi off to 3.0.
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All this damn science and math crap should be banned anyway. It is so bad for the children's self-esteem to be told there is only one right answer out of all the possible answers they can come up with! Is being "right", which is really an old throwback to that repressive Puritan belief system, really more important than feeling good about yourself?
Like my finite math prof Dr. Corwin used to say, 2 + 2 = 5, when 2 is very large.
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Its about time they banned this dangerous substance.
Each year, Dihydrogen Monoxide is a known causative component in many thousands of deaths and is a major contributor to millions upon millions of dollars in damage to property and the environment. Some of the known perils of Dihydrogen Monoxide are:
* Death due to accidental inhalation of DHMO, even in small quantities.
* Prolonged exposure to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage.
* Excessive ingestion produces a number of unpleasant though not typically life-threatening side-effects.
* DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
* Gaseous DHMO can cause severe burns.
* Contributes to soil erosion.
* Leads to corrosion and oxidation of many metals.
* Contamination of electrical systems often causes short-circuits.
* Exposure decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes.
* Found in biopsies of pre-cancerous tumors and lesions.
* Often associated with killer cyclones in the U.S. Midwest and elsewhere.
* Thermal variations in DHMO are a suspected contributor to the El Nino weather effect.
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The real story is that the city was prepared to enact binding legislation on the basis of something a paralegal dug up on the internet.
The DHMO hoax is an old one and very widely known. How many less obvious hoaxes and fictitious, unverified claims have gotten by us and into the law books?
Somewhere out there, in the depths of space, hyper-advanced ET's are listening in to the Today Show and PBS and the breathless bleating of yokel-news career-builders.
If so, liberal science legislation is the laughingstock of the universe.
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It's natural that two horny Hydrogen Molecules should attracted to something as common and low born as O!
Teachin science everywhere. Along with Higene.
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On a serious note, it is unfortunate but scarcely a surprise that the paralegal is so ignorant.
It is much worse that nobody bothered to run the paralegal's "discovery" past someone who had, say, passed freshman chemistry.
It is possible that there is no such person in Aliseo Viejo, but they could surely have sent for an outside consultant.
Citiot bureaucrats love that, so it wouldn't have interfered with the real objective here, a tiny little power grab for officious officials and imperious lackeys.
My fee is $1150 a day, plus expenses (minimum one day). Unlike the usual run of high-priced California eco-consultants, I don't go in for hookers or heavy drinking, so the expenses would be modest compared to what they are used to.
Should a leftist professor who believes Jewish âNazisâ control our government and that the U.S. military has âfunâ attacking Iraqi insurgents be in a position of teaching incoming freshmen at one of the largest junior colleges in the country? No
Dr. Leighton Armitage is a professor of political science in the Business and Social Sciences Department of Foothill College in Northern California. Foothill prepares more of its students to attend nearby Stanford and other major universities than any other two-year community college in California. As such, it should offer a first-rate faculty. But Denis Hiller, Foothillâs leader of Students For Academic Freedom, tells me a highly biased view of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict makes it an extremely unpleasant place to go to school. And he feels Professor Armitageâs teaching and indoctrinating students with anti-Israel and anti-U.S. views contributes strongly to this.
Professor Armitage recently demonstrated the reality of this in an interview in the campus newspaper, The Sentinel, on January 28. Armitage condemned both Israel and the United States. . Entitled âGood Fences Make Good Neighbors,â by student reporter and pro-Palestinian activist Collin Plehiers, Armitage held nothing back regarding his personal opinions about Jews, even though he represented Foothill College. And this interview was supposed to show his expertise in American geopolitics. Expertise in racism, more like.
Plehiers began the interview by comparing the Ghetto Wall in Warsaw erected by the Nazis to with the security fence Israel is now building to prevent terrorists from killing Israelis. Plehiers implied Israelâs security fence to separate the Palestinian Authorityâs population is comparable to what the Nazis did to the Jews. âI find it ironic that during WWII and the Holocaust they were put inside a wall, and now theyâre building one again, but this time its seems to be the other way around,â said Plehiers. You ever hear of "never again"? You ever hear that rewarding evil does NOT end it?
Armitage agreed with Plehiersâ description of the wall, calling it a âland grab.â Armitage elaborated, âInstead of building on the green line, theyâre building in the West Bank and theyâre conveniently taking all the settlements constructed, illegally, in that area and they are taking all the water resources.â Liar
Armitage might be excused for his ignorance and for not being an expert in international law. The âgreen lineâ he referred to is not a border but actually the 1948 ceasefire line set up by the United Nations after five Arab nations attacked the newly founded Jewish state in a failed attempt to annihilate it. Many people, even American Jews, mistake that ceasefire line as Israelâs âborders.â But much of the land in question does belong to Israel as per international law because indigenous Jews were driven from the region by the Jordanian and Iraqi armies in 1948. Since then, the Arabs have refused to sign a peace treaty or recognize Israelâs right to exist and terrorist attacks have been conducted by the Arab states ever since. Jordan annexed the West Bank and there was no talk of a âPalestinian stateâ until after the Israelis took the area back from Jordan in 1967.
But because he is a college educator â and one who teaches political science to many incoming freshmen â Armitageâs remarks are alarming. Either Armitage was unaware of the facts or does not want them known by the student body at Foothill College. And accusations of âstealing waterâ are just the latest canard from the Palestinian propaganda ministries. In fact, the Palestinians in the West Bank actually rely on Israeli expertise to provide them with water services since Arab water agencies are notorious for letting their aquifers become polluted. In Gaza, all of the water is supplied directly to the area from Israel yet the Palestine Authority still claims Israel is âstealing their water.â Some people just throw away facts that conflict with their prejudices. One such died protecting smuggling tunnels a year ago tomorrow.
Armitage continued, saying, âNow when you wall in these settlements, rather generously, when you take land away from orchards and land that actually belongs to Palestinians, when you steal their water resources, what are you doing?â But Armitageâs knowledge of history was still faulty. Prior to 1948, there were 23 Jewish settlements in the territories that the Arabs seized. United Nationâs Resolution 242 after the 1967 war actually recognized Israelâs right to take them back after the Arabs negotiated a peace settlement. The Palestinians agreed to do that in the Oslo Accords in 1993 but then proceeded to launch their terror war. The area the fence is encompassing is territory still to be negotiated per those accords and is deemed vital to Israelâs security in the event of war. In addition, the Israeli government pays for any âPalestinian propertyâ that is fenced in. Itâs a price to pay for peace. Harm-itage needs to look critically at facts.
However, Armitage stated the real problem with the security fence is âthe Jewsâ and America as Israelâs ally. According to Armitage, âfew people realize how much influence they (the Jews) wield.â
He stated that America is hated all around the world because of Israel. He based his reasoning on the fact the U.S. military is destroying the houses of terrorists in Iraq, just as the Israeli army does in to Palestinian terrorists in the territories. âHave you heard what weâre doing now to houses of suspected terrorists in Iraq? Weâre blowing them up. If youâre suspected of being a terrorist your house will be blown up.â Note how Armitage claimed that houses of âsuspectedâ terrorists are destroyed. It implies innocence on those who commit terrorism. People are killed just by suspicion. But the U.S. and Israeli armies do not destroy houses of suspects, but rather of actual terrorists who have attacked and killed their forces, or civilians.
Armitage further accused the U.S. military of enjoying it. To quote the professor: âNow, the Israelis do it with a bulldozer and we do it a Howitzer, and Apache gun ships, so itâs different. I guess we have more fun.â Parroting the old sadism libels.
Armitage proceeded: âif you say that what they (the Israelis) are doing is akin to the Holocaust, what will they say? Youâre an anti-Semite, youâre anti-Jewish, you just want to destroy the Jewish religion. Itâs so convenient. It allows them to do exactly what was done to them. And what are they doing with the Palestinians, every day? Theyâre killing them.â He continues, âtheyâre not taking their glasses and gold fillings, and everything else, as far as I know, but they are still slaughtering these people. Itâs exactly what Hitler did to the Jews.â Then why are the Palis still alive? Because the Israelis are NOT genocidal.
Plehiers and Armitage both used the words âJewsâ and âIsraelisâ interchangeably in their discussion. âThe Jewsâ do everything they âhave learned from their tormentors.â Such a comparison of Jews with Nazis is particularly odious since the Arabs were Nazi allies during World War II and still praise Nazis in their own Arab media.
Hitler built extermination camps, did genetic experiments with Jews as guinea pigs, and did forced labor and starvation against Jews in the millions. The Palestinians laud and reward suicide bombers and killed armed terrorists who they count as âcivilian casualties.â Terrorists in Fateh receive salaries from the Palestinian Authority (paid for by EU and U.S. taxpayer). Just as U.S. children collect baseball cards, Palestinian children collect cards extolling suicide bombers. Because Sharkey Arafish has gotten his slaves to equate a lack of Jew-hatred with treason.
Jews sent to walled ghettos in Poland did not seek to destroy Germany or other societies. Jews were not given their own country by the Nazis only to repay that act by committing terror attacks on German civilians with suicide bombers.
Armitage further claimed the ills of America are due to the Jews because AIPAC, the American Israel lobby in Congress, controls the U.S. electoral system and all U.S. politicians hide their connections to it. Armitage echoes the basic message of the âProtocols Of the Learned Elders of Zionâ: Jews donât contribute like other ethnicities to our government, they conspire to control it.
And Plehiers lapped it all up. He interjected (jokingly, he averred) that maybe the U.S. should test a nuclear bomb on Israel to resolve the Jewish problem: âYou know how Bush wanted to start retesting nuclear weapons, should we maybe just test one on Israel, and resolve this problem?â "Problem." Where have I heard someone call the Jews a "Problem" before? Oh, yes, not I recallâŠ
Did Armitage disagree? No. He then related a conspiracy theory he saw on television that Israel developed nuclear weapons by stealing uranium with the cooperation of the CIA and then bemoaned the âhammerlockâ Israel has on America: âEvery year we give them 5 billion dollars, at least for the Camp David Accords...and another 4 billion dollars in extra money.â What of the money that goes to the aid of Israelâs neighbors, too?
One would expect a scholar teaching college freshmen to get his information from hard research and not a TV show. And Armitage ignored that most of the U.S. aid money goes to Israel to pay off Arab countries not to make perpetual war. He also overlooked the fact that the U.S. gives more money to the Arabs than to Israel in direct payouts. For every dollar the U.S. pumps into the Israeli economy, it gets back three in military, medical and industrial technology. Have a cell phone? Much of its technology comes from Israel. Israeli medical innovations have saved innumerable lives. And the U.S. military receives valuable equipment and training from Israeli exports of equipment and expertise. But American aid dollars to Arab countries end up going to pay for more terrorism.
Armitage then bemoaned the 250 million dollars contributed by Jewish Americans to support Israel in Congress, implying it comes from Israel, when this money comes from American citizens.
Armitage then regurgitated anti-Semitic stereotypes about the Jewish people. He said, âtheyâre good business people, youâve got to respect them for that, if for nothing else.â He continued, âOf course theyâre buying our elections, which really pisses me off. And this stuff you learn over time, itâs not overt, no one tells you this and no one wants you to know it.â He then related his experiences as an intern in Congress and how a congressional assistant warned him of the evils of the âJewish lobby.â
Just imagine if Armitage used a similar example implying Black people are âinherently lazyâ to his lesson that Jews are âgood business people,â or that Asians conspire, although ânot overtly,â to control our government. This man teaches in a public college? Tap, tap, nope.
Armitageâs performance in this interview is not an isolated incident. Denis Hiller of SAF told me, âHe (Armitage) is the best teacher here for indoctrinating young students with anti-Semitic and anti-American sentiments. I had him as an 11th grade high school student in a college preparatory class here at Foothill, and he had me reading only such recommended materials as Noam Chomsky and Michael Moore with no alternative points of view. Students in the campus Jewish Student Union, the College Republicans, College Democrats and donors to Foothill College have all had enough of Armitage, who, fortunately, is not tenured.â They are also speaking out against anti-Semitism on campus. Denis Hiller has told me that even the Muslims studentsâ group on campus tentatively discussed joining with the Black studentsâ group and the Jewish Student Union to protest Armitageâs comments. "Sack him!"
These developments at Foothill College indicate how our centers of higher education continue to be places of indoctrination. The boldness of such a patently offensive article being printed in a campus newspaper illustrates the casualness with which anti-Semitism is now being accepted on campuses all over the country. It appears that the atmosphere of the 1930s in Europe is creeping back into our own universities.
A teenage girl received severe burn injuries in an acid attack by miscreants at Atulia village in Shyamnagar upazila on Friday night. The victim has been identified as Prabhati Rani Mandol, 14, daughter of Dinabandhu Mandol of the village. Quoting victimâs relatives police said hoodlums, failing to make love with her, threw acid on her. She was critically injured in her chest, hands and face. She was rushed to Shyamnagar Health Complex. On information, the Acid Survivorsâ Foundation came to her aid and shifted her to Dhaka for better treatment. Victimâs father Dino Bondhn Mondal filed a case with Shyamnagar thana. However, none was arrested, police sources said.
Next time they want some, bet she'll put out. Then they can stone her.
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Another vixen guilty of being female and Muslim. Damn this backward culture!
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I think if she simply takes a lesson from Spain and appeases them from now on, she should be okay. And so will all of the other girls who will find themselves in a similar situation. Those boys just want cooperation--they don't really want to be mean.
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Do I understand that potential rapists have a little canteen of acid on them in case their amorous advances are refused? This is sick^N power. These guys need a swift exit out of the gene pool.
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AP, the vixens need to learn where these boys store their canteen o' acid. And be prepared to reach for it, open it, and splatter it over the boys at a height of about, oh, 3 feet when required.
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It sounds to me that they (the gang-rapists) could not 'get it up' so splashed acid on their victim instead.
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Give your daughter a 45, but make sure she practices and keeps several spare clips in her purse. It's harder to get the acid canteen open once someone has shot your balls off.
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A fisherman was killed and another injured seriously by a Royal Bengal tiger in Atharobeki canal in the Sundarbans on Saturday. The dead was identified as Abdur Rahman, 24, son of Nazrul Gazi of Chakbara village. Injured Morshed Gazi, 32, of the same village was shifted to Satkhira hospital in a critical condition. Quoting eye-witnesses police said three fishermen went to the Sundarbans after taking permission from the Forest Department on Saturday morning. As soon as they reached the canal by a boat, a Royal Bengal swooped on Morshed. When Abdur Rahman came to his rescue with a bamboo stick the tiger threw away Morshed and attacked Rahman and killed him in deep forest. The body is yet to be rescued. A few teeth, some toenails, maybe...
In another incident on the day, two fishermen were abducted by âpirates belonging to Motableb Bahiniâ from Kalichchar canal in the worldâs largest mangrove forest. They were identified as Aksedur Rahman and Ijjat Ali. The fishermen were reportedly held hostage at a place near Pashurtala near the Indian border for payment of ransom. Quoting local people, police said taking permission from the Forest Department 11 fishermen went to the Sundarbans on Thursday night. No sooner had they reached Kalichchar canal by boats an organised gang of pirates belonging to Motaleb Bahini attacked them. They held hostage the two fishermen for ransom. Today has been set the dead line for payment of ransom money, otherwise, the hostages will be killed, according to escaped fishermen.
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Tigers--Why do they hate us?
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I'll never be attacked by a big cat (nutting larger than a maine gator cat) but iffin I was I look that sucker right in the eye and yell "STOP KICKING THE DAMN FULLERS EARTH OUT OF THE BOX, OR I'M GONNA CUT OFF YOUR BALLS AGAIN? UNDERSTAND?"
Rejecting the governmentâs offer for dialogue, Awami League (AL) General Secretary Abdul Jalil yesterday reiterated his partyâs stand to topple the BNP-led alliance government by April this year. "Weâre confident weâll free the people from the present-day misrule by April 30, which will be the last day of this government," he told newsmen at a discussion session on Bangladeshâs politics arranged by Dhaka Reportersâ Unity at its Segun Bagicha office. "I framed the deadline in light of my political experience," he added.
Terming the offer for dialogue as âtoo lateâ Jalil said, although the BNP secretary general urged the AL to join parliament, he [Mannan Bhuiyan] had "no power to implement any decision." "He isnât the secretary general of BNP, itâs some one else," the senior AL leader said alluding to Tariq Rahman, senior joint secretary general of BNP and elder son of the prime minister.
On the issue of godfathers, Jalil said, "I wonât say we donât have any godfathers, but they were never allowed in the forefront, politically." And they will not be allowed to do so in the future too, he promised, claiming, in comparison, there were several hundred godfathers in the BNP-Jamaat alliance.
On the recent attack on former president Badruddoza Chowdhury, Jalil said it proved that the BNP did not believe in democracy and freedom of opinion. He called for a greater unity of progressive democratic forces and professional bodies against the alliance government, which he claimed was corrupt, harbouring violence, violator of human rights and an absolute failure.
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A row has broken out in South Africa over an attempt to send weapons to deposed Haiti president Jean-Bertrand Aristide as rebels closed in on him. President Thabo Mbeki has been accused by the leader of the opposition, Tony Leon, of violating the constitution by failing to tell parliament. Mr Leon said an air force plane had been authorised to carry the supplies. A spokesman for President Mbeki said it would investigate but denied breaking the constitution. "Break the law? Us? Never!"
Mr Leon said that the constitution required President Mbeki to report any deployment of the South African Defence Force to parliament within seven days, but he had failed to do so. The South African constitution contains clauses designed to prevent the government using covert forces across its borders -- a practice used extensively by the previous apartheid government, which left office 10 years ago. Why let a little thing like the law get in the way of helping a fellow black dictator leader.
Mr Leon told reporters in Johannesburg the plane had a shipment of 150 R-1 rifles, 5,000 bullets, 200 smoke grenades and 200 bullet-proof vests. "It would now appear that President Mbeki approved the employment of a South African Air Force (SAAF) Boeing 707 to carry arms and equipment for the use of the Haitian Police Force in support of then-President Jean-Bertrand Aristide," said Mr Leon. He claimed Mr Mbeki authorised the aircraftâs mission after making a personal commitment to support Mr Aristide to the Chairman of the Caribbean Community (Caricom), Jamaican Prime Minister P J Patterson. Mbeki was one of the only world leaders to attend Aristides big party last year. He brought a SA navy ship and helicopters for protection, if I remember correctly.
Mr Leon said President Mbeki had contravened the constitution which required him to inform parliament before authorising the alleged mission. He said Mr Patterson had confirmed that the SAAF Boeing 707 that left South Africa on 29 February 2004 had landed in Jamaica the same day. The South African military plane however never reached Haiti because of the resignation and departure of Mr Aristide. Too little, too late.
Mr Aristide has now flown out of exile in Central African Republic (CAR) to Jamaica. South Africa faces general elections next month. This might help Mbeki in the polls, Aristide seems like a popular fellow, except in his own country.
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If I were a dictator being deposed, I think smoke gernades would be pretty low on my shopping list.
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smoke grenades would be pretty low on my shopping list.
Needed to provide cover while you're running for da plane with da treasury.
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These connections between African and Latin American leaders are becoming bizarre. Here is an excerpt from whatGutavo Coronel had to say on 2/28 about a meeting between Mugabe and Chavez,
Arriving in Venezuela after a long plane trip from Harare, Zimbabwe's despot Robert Mugabe rapidly proceeded to fall asleep while Chávez was giving a speech and went on to drop the replica of BolÃvar's sword presented to him by Chávez. Robert Mugabe, said the beaming Chávez, "is a true warrior of freedom."
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Simon Bolivar is pretty much the poster child for Unintended Consequences. A benevolent dictator, he spawned 200+ years of unruly south American militaries.
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Old Son, you are one troubled individual. You may wish to seek a bit of help somewhere. No, not in a mosque for heaven sakes. Visit a professional wig mechanic and show him what you wrote. Good luck.
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Why don't we leave this one for Fred to erase without further comment. I didn't realize that pillow parlors provide their guests with internet access. Art Therapy would be a more constructive use of our tax dollars. Plus the purchase of crayons helps the economy however marginally.
I feel like a zookeeper encouraging kids to move past the orangutanâs cage explaining that while its really cool to watch him barf, if you hang out he'll eat it next and your cotton candy won't taste so good to you.
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Is so troublesome for Jews to accept critics or joocy are so historically brain death that any criticism reverse them in so sort of mental torpor and travel them to the repeating course of history to the same repetitious process of destruction and misery. Eleano
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Please torture Dershowitz, not me -- I'll tell you all I know Of freedom-hating terrorists And poisoned H2O. Here's what I'll say without delay So you can skip the rack No shock machines: I'll spill the beans And never answer back. I'll finger all conspirators Turn in my mom and fadda I'll even point my finger joint At Alan of al Q'adda. For might this guy be but a spy? Is Al our source of trouble? Could Harvard's hunk be but a skunk That turned the Tow'rs to rubble? At first I'm sure he'll claim he's pure, But truth's not far to seek: It soon will come right from his lips Between each curdling shreek! How long do you suppose it takes A man whose balls are fryin' To fess up to the Holocaust Or Protocols of Zion? The Inquisition was no peer For Mossad and Shin Bet Who've now refined and redesigned The treatment young Pals get. So torture Dershowitz, not me; I choke upon such diet; And if the Dersh loves torture so Let him be first to try it! Plez leave this to #2 Fred screeching litle one Eleano The restauratour
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Actually Eleanor, I'm Irish. It's actually not your criticism of Jews that causes us to think that you are deranged. Your incoherence, poor spelling, lack of grammar and inability to adhere to the rules of punctuation that make you so easy to parody. Your writing is so consistently smells that no one in the area pretends that someone just farted. Everyone is left sure that we are in the presence of a mentality that has pinched a loaf into his under shorts and has no intension of retiring to the bathroom to change the old pampers.
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super hose sup hose or super super grammathic tich Irish or Hidish blob on weelchair living on my taxes
did anybody realize that Anglo or Irish or from the fu#@ are from joocy, pack in defensive way all the times that is a very gregarious tribe pack mentality that we like to esploit.
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Eleanor, seeing that you aren't much good at debate on the issues, let's cut to the turkey - you guys really do wash your hands when you leave the washroom, don't you?
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And the quislings did quizzle and the quakers did shake,
and Eli the moonbat did scurry and bake,
another long rant for the Jews to mock,
for such is the fate of cooks who suck cock.
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Although you apparently are Jew-wise to the extent that you can criticize the Zionists without guilt, you still exhibit a rather amoral attitude to the use of torture by them: "Personally, I do not condemn the Israelis for using torture as such, because I know the Arabs are a brutal people whose system of laws have not evolved by accident, but rather in response to this nature: A society of brutal people cannot survive without brutal laws, and the chopping of heads, feet and hands surely ranks among the world's most brutal law enforcement practices. In contrast, however, I do condemn the Big Jews for trying to bring their mideast practices to America, and indeed for encouraging the multiculturalism which has brought Western civilization to the point of collapse by producing a tsunami of Turd-Worlders which have washed up on American and European shores." The problem with this passage is that you allow the Zionists to torture the victims of their original invasion and occupation of Palestine. You're smart enough not to try to say that, well, they're there, so the Palestinians ought just to accept reality and learn to live with it. But there is no living with it, as we now see. The Palestinians are expected either to get the hell out or be killed. The Zionists will not stop killing them and torturing them until they all leave. And then the Zionists will force other Arabs to leave their countries until it's all Eretz Israel. But you don't like that the big Jews bring their practices here! How hypocritical. It's fine that they torture and kill Palestinians in Palestine, but not in our backyard - right? Well, because of this cowardly attitude, Jews have the upper hand in this country. If it's okay with you that they murder and steal in one guy's country, why shouldn't they do in your country, too? What's the difference? Only where you live. How typically American. We are the most arrogant and ignorant bastards in the world. We don't know or care about what or how other people think. If they don't think the way we do, if they don't act in our interests every step of the way, then screw 'em - right? Torture 'em! Except Israel! Israel can blow our sailors out of the water, fail to notify the marines that a suicide truck is being sent, try to assassinate a president, spy on us, steal and sell nuclear secrets from Los Alamos, a soak up billions of taxed dollars every year just to maintain their totally artificial and unnatural position in Palestine, and you say it's okay for them to torture their victims further. You just don't want them doing that kind of stuff over here, where we might have to see it. Or experience it. What exactly has any Arab done to you or to the United States? What evidence do you have that any Arab has hurt us in any way? (The FBI doesn't have any - do you?) What has any of these guys done to you or us that would justify being tortured? You call them "a society of brutal people" -- because they punish crime harshly. How many atom bombs have the Arabs dropped on innocent civilians? How many blockbusters have they dropped on apartment houses with people in them, hoping to get one enemy? How many American girls have they run over with bulldozers? How many heads of state have Arabs blasted and forced to live in rubble? How many Arab spies have been caught stealing the family jewels here? Isn't the answer a big fat zero? Isn't it rather we who have done nasty things to Arabs? Such as kill a million and a half or so Iraqis since 1991 - for what? Such as make possible the Jewish takeover of Palestine? Such as kill or depose Arab and Persian nationalist leaders who sought independence from us? Haven't we made all of Israel's aggression possible since 1948? So, I don't get your cavalier attitude regarding torture of people who resent living under totalitarian Judaism. You must know, dimly, how bad it is because you don't want the Big Jews bringing their practices here. Well, buddy - we deserve to have them here, because that's what we've done to others. So get ready.
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did you realized that this is not my language expressing myself in anglo is ok, but as anglo brain struture also phonethicaly that constrution of frases are limited
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I thought the Rantburg policy was to only post articles and to leave the ranting to comments. It's one thing for trolls to post comments, but out with the pure diatribes! (at least the Muckster is funny)
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I agree Shipman. Next they will figure out that a sentence relates a subject, object and verb, and really shocking things could happen. They could even make sense.
Nah! Won't happen!
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I enjoy clubbing a troll as much as the next guy but this one has to go.
Looks like he scored a LOT of rock this time, and has to burn through it all before he gets bored.
Anyways, you can almost always tell when a troll posts an article here. No comments, hardly any editing, just plain text.
So there it is: An easy way to spot a troll so you can move on.
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Apologies Bulldog, I was just trying to see whether I could drive him into cardiac arrest and thus rid Rantburg of his wisdom for 6 months or so. I will go back to taunting my employees.
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A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
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