A top al Qaeda lieutenant has met with leaders of a violent Salvadoran criminal gang with roots in Mexico and the United States — including a stronghold in the Washington area — in an effort by the terrorist network to seek help infiltrating the U.S.-Mexico border, law enforcement authorities said. Adnan G. El Shukrijumah, a key al Qaeda cell leader for whom the U.S. government has offered a $5 million reward, was spotted in July in Honduras meeting with leaders of El Salvador's notorious Mara Salvatrucha gang, which immigration officials said has smuggled hundreds of Central and South Americans — mostly gang members — into the United States. Although they are actively involved in alien, drug and weapons smuggling, Mara Salvatrucha members in America also have been tied to numerous killings, robberies, burglaries, carjackings, extortions, rapes and aggravated assaults — including at least seven killings in Virginia and a machete attack on a 16-year-old in Alexandria that severely mutilated his hands.
The Salvadoran gang, known to law enforcement authorities as MS-13 because many members identify themselves with tattoos of the number 13, is thought to have established a major smuggling center in Matamoros, Mexico, just south of Brownsville, Texas, from where it has arranged to bring illegal aliens from countries other than Mexico into the United States. Authorities said al Qaeda terrorists hope to take advantage of a lack of detention space within the Department of Homeland Security that has forced immigration officials to release non-Mexican illegal aliens back into the United States, rather than return them to their home countries.
El Shukrijumah, born in Saudi Arabia but thought to be a Yemen national, was spotted in Tegucigalpa, Honduras, in July, having crossed the border illegally from Nicaragua after a stay in Panama. U.S. authorities said al Qaeda operatives have been in Tegucigalpa planning attacks against British, Spanish and U.S. embassies. Known to carry passports from Saudi Arabia, Trinidad, Guyana and Canada, El Shukrijumah had sought meetings with the Mara Salvatrucha gang leaders who control alien-smuggling routes through Mexico and into the United States. Earlier this month, Mr. Ashcroft confirmed that U.S. border agents and inspectors had ramped up efforts to find El Shukrijumah amid reports that the al Qaeda leader was thought to be seeking entry routes into the United States along the U.S.-Mexico border. Mr. Ashcroft noted that increased enforcement efforts were under way in the wake of a rise of arrests of border jumpers from Afghanistan, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Pakistan, the Philippines, Saudi Arabia and Syria.
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I think I should observe Kim du Toit's ammo day a month early
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If I were MS-13, I would politely decline. Being associated with terrorists is not a good thing for a professional criminal.
The armed gang that seized the school in South Russian town of Beslan on September 1, planned to escape after the terrorist attack using hostages as a shield, former president of Ingushetia, Ruslan Aushev, said on Friday. Aushev took part in the negotiations with the terrorists. After the negotiations, over 20 hostages were set free. Over 300 people were killed after the school siege and an assault on September 3. The hostage-takers prepared a corridor to leave Beslan. "They told me other gangs were ready to help them in case of necessity," Interfax news agency quoted Aushev as saying. He added that the terrorists went out of the school building at night and scouted out the land. Aushev did not rule out that some of the rebels could escape having disappeared in the crowd.
Great site security, there guys. Nice job of sealing the place off.
Terrorists told Aushev they have taken account of Moscow theater siege in October 2002. For instance, they have broken the windows because they were afraid of gas that was used by Russian troops during the 2002 assault. "They behaved crueler than during Nord-Ost. For example, when the lights or telephone stopped working in the school, they shot hostages," former Ingush president said. He confirmed what he said earlier that all hostage-takers spoke Russian. He confirmed also that Russian troops did not prepare the assault and it started after the citizens opened fire and the terrorists responded. Aushev also confirmed that it was Chechen warlord Shamil Basayev who ordered the school siege. Zyazikov was one of the people the terrorists had demanded to talk with. But he did not go to Beslan.
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Nationals from more than 40 countries were among gunmen killed in Chechnya during the counter-terrorist operation, Russian Defence Minister Sergei Ivanov said on Tuesday during the meeting with Human Rights Commissioner of the Council of Europe Alvaro Gil-Robles. One more group of terrorists was destroyed in the Chechen mountains on Monday, and in the group were Turkish nationals, the minister said. Turkish nationals are regularly found among killed gunmen, he noted. The numerical strength of the armed forces in Chechnya was reduced substantially in recent years, Ivanov said.
Defence Ministry personnel has been a minority among "people with shoulder straps" in the republic for a long time already, the minister noted. Motorised Infantry Division 42 of the Defence Ministry is deployed in Chechnya and will remain there. Its numerical strength is around 15,000-16,000 people. There are also commando detachments in Chechnya, including detachments comprising Russian citizens residing in Chechnya. Their operations are rather successful and efficient, Ivanov added.
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"In Beslan, I visited several families who lost relatives in the hostage-taking. I told these families: prevent the young people from taking revenge, from murdering yet more innocents", General Kim Tsagolov, a leading member of the Ossetian Community Council in Moscow, told reporters. "This custom [of vendetta or blood feuds] still exists and represents a very great threat" in the Caucasus, said Tsagolov, who formerly served as Russian deputy minister on regional and national policy. "As we bury the victims [of the siege in Beslan, North Ossetia], we must block all attempts to go down that road.
"It is vital for the authorities to quickly find and judge those responsible for this terrorist act. Unless they do so, it is very likely that certain families will go looking for them on their own", added Ashot Ayrapetian, director of the Center for Inter-Ethnic Cooperation in Moscow.
Several families bereaved in the tragedy have warned that they would consider seeking revenge at the end of the traditional 40-day mourning period. "We need a fresh look on Chechen politics and on the use of negotiation. Cleansing operations alone will not solve the situation", argued Alexander Brod, who heads the Moscow office for Human Rights, said in reference to military sweeps in Chechnya.
Sergei Arutyunov, a top Caucasus specialist at Russia's Academy of Science, also blamed Putin for his staunch refusal to sit down for talks with Maskhadov, including during the Beslan hostage crisis. "Negotiations with Maskhadov would have undermined the position of Basayev", he told reporters in Moscow. Arutyunov added that many children could have been saved if Maskhadov had been asked to negotiate with the hostage-takers, who were demanding Chechnya's independence.
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All this means is that the regular Russian authorities have 40 days, the Orthodox Christian mourning period, to bring conspirators to justice...
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On Polish television several days ago a reporter was asking a man in Beslan what he thought about the people who planned and carried out the massacre. The man said they deserved the same fate as the kids. The reporter than asked if he knew who had done this. The man paused, looked at one of the burned out buildings, and responded, "We will know". Chilling. But I wish him good hunting.
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Osama bin Laden had access to a shared Swiss bank account in the 1990s used to collect and redistribute family inheritance money, his half brother told a French judge, court officials confirmed today. Swiss citizen Yeslam Binladin, who spells his name differently from the terror leader, appeared briefly yesterday before investigating judge Renaud Van Ruymbeke in a long-running probe of suspected money laundering. Binladin told the French judge that two of his brothers had created the account at Swiss bank UBS to collect and redistribute family funds — and Osama bin Laden was among the beneficiaries, the officials said.
Binladin, in questioning on a previous occasion by the French judge, had said that he had not had contact with the al-Qaida leader for about 20 years. Yeslam and Osama are among 54 children of the late Saudi construction magnate Mohammed bin Laden and his 22 wives. Binladin has condemned his half brother "for his acts and his convictions." Private investigator Jean-Charles Brisard said that he received new information in May from Swiss authorities indicating the terror kingpin had access to a joint account with his half brother at UBS from 1990 to 1997. "We can wonder why the bank left this account open until 1997, whereas the United States officially designated Osama bin Laden as a financier of international terrorism in August 1996," Brisard said.
In December, 2001, Van Ruymbeke started an investigation to probe movements of cash between various companies owned by Binladin. He has never been charged. In February, Swiss authorities returned a van load of documents seized nearly two years ago from Binladin in a search at the request of French investigators in the money laundering probe.
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Withdrawal of US-led forces must be on the agenda if an international summit on Iraq is to go ahead, France's Foreign Minister Michel Barnier said. He was responding to a proposal from US Secretary of State Colin Powell for a conference next month. Mr Powell said the meeting would help stabilise the region in the run-up to Iraqi elections in January. Mr Barnier described Iraq as a "black hole", and said minimum security levels must be met before elections are held. The French minister proposed that all political groups in Iraq, "including a certain number of groups or people who now have chosen the path of resistance by arms", should be included in the talks.
"Why should a little beheading keep someone from talking about peace?" he added.
He also said the "only place" to hold such a gathering was at the United Nations. Mr Powell suggested the summit could be held in Jordan or Egypt, and include Iraq's Middle East neighbours and major industrialised countries. Mr Barnier said US withdrawal was a central issue, one "which should be on the agenda of such a conference, if we want it to take place".
So as to guarantee chaos.
"The situation in Iraq is one of chaos," he told France Inter radio. "This chaos runs the risk of destabilising, of drawing in the whole region. I have compared it to a black hole. We have to get out of this black hole, this spiral of violence, and launch negotiations and the political process," he said.
"We"?
The EU's foreign policy chief Javier Solana called the idea of a conference a "positive" step, though he said it would not necessarily be possible to convene it next month. Mr Solana also said Iraq's elections should go ahead in January despite fears that recent spiralling violence will make them impossible.
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Remind me again why these jerks are flapping their gums. STFU, frogs.
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Lol! It's always a hoot when one of the world's multiculti ninnie-states starts talking about "destabilizing" the ME... Indeed, it's normally so serene, there.
If Solana likes the idea and Chirac's Wimpettes are already stacking the agenda, as per usual, then we should blow it off. There's nothing useful to be found in such a circus.
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I understand that if the terrorists are involved, Kerry plans to go. He does have experience talking with America's enemies while in Paris, after all.
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I initially thought that this was from Scrappleface. I would hope that during the second term of the Bush administration no one, even the State Department, even returns a phone call to France. These poseurs deserve to seethe in their own impotence.
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"This chaos runs the risk of destabilising, of drawing in the whole region. I have compared it to a black hole."
We sure wouldn't want to destabilize the region with elections. Good Lord, people excerising free will would cause irreparable harm to the festering sesspit of such progressive countries like egypt, saudi, syria and lebanon.
Um, were the french even invited? I saw no mention of an invite....
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Withdrawal of US-led forces must be on the agenda if an international summit on Iraq is to go ahead ...
I'm confident the French are rather irritated at how the continued presence of Coalition troops in Iraq makes it impossible for them to keep up their involvement in the "Oil-for Palaces" scam.
Still, it's always less than amusing to see a supposed ally attempting to mantle themselve with world leadership while kissing terrorist @ss. The two go together so well ... at least for the French.
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As Tonto said to the Lone Ranger, "What do you mean, WE, white man?"
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Let the French and the UN start the summit... we'll join them as soon as we get ourselves (and Iraq, of course!) organized. But I have faith that Mr. Annan, Minister Barnier and Chief Solana can hold the fort until we get there.
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Fine - but the French have to come to New York on the "DeGaulle" - under its own power.
After (IF) they get there, we can all have a good laugh at their expense.
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How many of France's African, Caribian, and Pacific colonies can't wait to leave the French orbit. Time to bring them into the Anglo-American sphere.
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I was thinking more along the lines of Afirican economic colonies like Niger (can you say uranium and forged docs?), or Fr. Guyana, or heaven forbid, Cote d'Ivore. Though I do admit, Tahiti would be a nice little addition.
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The House Republican leadership's new bill to restructure the nation's intelligence bureaucracy would turn driver's licenses issued by the 50 states into a de facto national ID card, say privacy activists. The House bill, set for committee markups this week, is expected to be merged with a Senate version and voted on before the Nov. 2 election. But among the little-known provisions of the "9/11 Recommendations Implementation Act" are new requirements for state driver's licenses that have very little to do with driving, say critics. According to the legislation, within three years of its enactment, no federal agency may accept for any official purpose a driver's license or identification card issued by a state that does not require applicants to provide Social Security number and "facial imaging capture."
That'd be bureaucratese for "picture."
Washington would also require all states to share digital data acquired in the process of licensing to other states. A blogger site committed to fighting a national ID calls the plan a "backdoor creation of a National ID" that "has been the in the works for a few years now, even prior to events of September 11."
I don't think I'd go that far. It's more like national standards for ID...
"This seems marginally better than the ID provisions McCain-Lieberman bill in the Senate, in that it is not explicitly part of a biometric checkpoint system," wrote the privacy activists of Libertythink.com. "But the highlighted text suggests facial biometrics nonetheless. And the linking of all the databases is troublesome."
Some people trouble more easily than others. This isn't Pakistan, where every turban with a box of crayons and a pad of lined paper can turn out a couple dozen false passports in an afternoon. Hopefully, it never will be...
The issue of national standards for driver's licenses and other documents was taken up by the 9/11 Commission and by the McCain-Lieberman bill introduced earlier this month in the Senate. Both urge sweeping reforms, such as mandated federal standards for license formats. Privacy experts say that national standards that require states to add a fingerprint or other biometric data to driver's licenses might effectively create a national ID card.
ID cards are supposed to be used to verify your identity. A note from your mother was enough a few years ago, but then it was a lot easier to steal someone else's identity a few years ago, too. The consequences to society of being able to do that are also higher today.
The House bill also immediately ran into partisan opposition last Friday when it was introduced. "Instead of acting in a bipartisan manner, the Republican leadership is introducing a bill, written behind closed doors, that attempts to score partisan points and goes far outside the recommendations of the 9/11 commission," said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat. "Unbelievably, the Republicans claim to have introduced a bipartisan bill, as Senate leaders have done. It is simply not true."
"They're all liars and thieves, y'know..."
No bill number was available and even the full text was not released until yesterday. Driver's licenses are not the only form of identification changing. Next year, both U.S. passports and foreign visitor passports will be issued with a special computer chip woven into the cover. The chip will include a photograph of the traveler, and face-recognition technology will be used to make sure the passport presenter is the same as the person who applied for the document.
That'll make 'em harder to duplicate back in Peshawar...
That seems to be what the House bill is requiring for driver's licenses of the future, too. This change will be gradual in the United States. All new passports will include the chip by next year, but those holding valid passports won't be required to upgrade until their current ones expire. On the other hand, citizens of countries in the U.S. visa waiver program, such as Britain and Spain, will have to arrive on U.S. shores with a biometric chip in their passport beginning in October of next year. Congress has already extended that deadline from the initial October 2004 date mandated in a 2002 law. Facial-recognition programs, however, are notoriously inaccurate, with some studies suggesting error rates as high as 50 percent. Simple changes in lighting, or beard growth, can foil it. Similar legislation was pushed during the Clinton administration but was rebuffed by privacy activists.
Yeah. That's a glass that's definitely half empty...
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and no IDs based on consular matriculars
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YOUR PAPERS, PLEASE ... Fears of national ID
This is your payback, guys, and you know who you are. Uncontrolled Mexican border-jumping, Visa Express, little regard to selectivity where immigration is concerned, and all-around politically correct jerking off all lead to the door of a possible national ID card. Enjoy it, you idiots.
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I don't know what folks are using but some submission are widening the page and making stuff damm near unreadable. I want a flying bike with big fricking lasers! I don't need a national ID.
Letter Editor
The New York Times
229 West 43rd Street
New York, NY 10036
To the Editor:
In today's article reporting the decapitation by terrorists in Iraq of American civilian Eugene Armstrong, The Times reporter wrote:
"In the video of the beheading, an insurgent wearing a ski mask and surrounded by four men with assault rifles says the group is killing Mr. Armstrong because the American occupiers and the interim Iraqi government failed to meet the deadline. Much of the man's long speech is addressed to President Bush, who is called a dog at one point."
Please note that the news article omitted an important part of the story, which was the exact phrase uttered by the executioner at the time he cut Armstrong's throat and severed his head from his body. That phrase was "Oh you Christian dog, Bush, stop your arrogance."
The reference to President Bush by the terrorist strengthens the belief of many that we are involved in a war of civilizations. Fanatic Islamists believe that Christians and Jews who do not recognize the supremacy of Islam should die. That awful message is part of the story and The Times erred in not carrying that quote, which many other papers did.
Lee Hamilton, Co-Chairman of the 9/11 Commission, has said in describing Muslim terrorists, "They want to kill us." Why? Because those making up western civilization and its ideas which Jihad is bent on destroying are overwhelmingly Christians and Jews. I believe it is President Bush's faith that gives him the strength to stay with and implement the Bush Doctrine, which is "We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them."
Your reporter refers to the spokesman for the murderers as an "insurgent." What would it take for The Times to call someone who has just participated in the beheading of an innocent civilian a terrorist? I am sure the public would like to know.
All the best.
Sincerely,
Edward I. Koch
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New York has produced some great mayors, Koch and Giuliani being tow prime examples. May Blomburg grow into the office.
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This all makes sense once you realize that the NYT is not just an 'observer' in this but a hand-in-hand ally and a knowing partner of the terrorists organization.
Their articles are written with the express purpose of spreading the terrorist's message ('Submit or Die' or 'Convert or Die') and furthering their cause -- and this explains the way they are written.
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.com - Take a deep breath. Don't take all this stuff so personal. The Poisoned one is spewing the panic of a typical Kerryite who knows that on Nov 2, the Botox party is over, and we can get back to the business of sending as many Jihadi Terrorist Animals to the 72 virgins as possible.
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Here is what I meant. NYT will learn their lesson one day, when their own reporter is under the knife. NYT and CNN will reap what they sow. Now, do you get it.
I don’t have access to the New York Times online articles because I’m not prepared to go through their registration process. But I do get the New York Times headlines sent to my inbox. You could have knocked me down with a feather when I saw the following headline and snippet of text from today’s paper:
WAREHOUSES FOR REFUGEES
It is time to rethink refugee warehousing, which can lead to generations of poverty and the kind of idleness that breeds terrorism.
The word ‘terrorism’ in the New York Times? It cannot be, I thought at first, but then of course I saw the context. The same tired old cliched bleeding-heart context of lets-be-intrepid-left-wing-journalists-and-explore-the-roots-of-terrorism-so-that-our-readership-will-cheer-and-our-editors-will-be-delighted-and-we’ll-keep-our-jobs.
Except, of course, that they are looking for the roots of terrorism in the wrong place and with blinkers on.
Idleness breeds terrorism? And I always thought it bred masturbation. Oh, silly me. Of course, now I get it! It’s a special KIND of idleness that’s required. The kind that results from people being shunted to warehouses and stored like so many cardboard cartons on identical rows of shelving. And I always thought that terrorism stems from an unholy mix of hatred inculcated in the young by the old and a radical deficiency in the character of young and old that causes them to embrace terrorism as a solution to that deficiency.
Again, silly me. I obviously haven’t evolved to the point where I can grasp the erudite brilliance of the New York Times.
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IN fact I'll bet the NYT has their template all set for how they will report the Debate. Kerry 100-Bush 0. Hell, Senator Horseface could have laryngitis and they will come up with something to make hima appear the "winner". AT least it will be predictable.
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Yes, NYT 'journalism' should be made a criminal offence. I'm thinking about a suitable punishment. Maybe writing out a million times "I will do my best in future to think for myself."
Now I have to go to work. Much as I'd like to contribute further to this debate.......
The same way one can explains the penchant for the 'right people' to advocate other extreme ideologies over the years. It's a way to poke a sharp stick in the eye of Western culture, which they find decadent and 'not their way'.
Not that they'd live under such an ideology, mind you. The same people that thinks it's chic to wear a kaffiyah (however badly), cheer on or mute criticism of Islamic radicals because they're fighting the West, would be the first ones drinking Drano should the same Islamists came to power. But it's the abstract protest that's important.
The NYT is fast becoming little more than a lifestyle guide: lots of fashion, lotsa articles on entertainment real estate sex and porn and restaurants and shopping shopping shopping.
Even the OpEd page serves mainly to offer intellectual style pointers and dinner party talking points to paper's core readership of Childless Bicoastal Urbanites. MoDo supplies little on-liners you can use at dinner parties; Krugman helps you feel as if you actually learned something twenty years ago in Econ 101; Kristof gives you your daily dose of earnestness; Bob the Blackdude you don't read but no one else does either. Even the token conservative, David Brooks, is catty and wry and talks as much about consumer goods, Walmart and taste badges as about anything else.
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Oh and lotsa lotsa gay stuff in the Times. My urban single friends in Manhattan LA Chicago and San Fran tell me it's very important to be able to make oddly self-deprecating jokes involving comparisons to gays as a convincing demonstration of hipness. Here the Times once again shows itself as an indispensable guide to the urbanite Who Would Be Sophisticated.
Touted National Intelligence Estimate Out of Date
by Austin Bay
The "new" national intelligence estimate touted last week by The New York Times is drastically out of date...
Baath thugs are attempting to manipulate the U.S. political cycle. If they continue to murder, they believe America will wilt and leave the new Iraqi government in the lurch.
I wonder when the NYT and other rags that touted this report will tell people that its from quite a while back and has been superseded and invalidated by more recent events
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Hmmm. Now the NYT is saying the pre-invasion NIE was even more pessimistic. Wonder if you could get a hold of the NIE's during Clinton's time especially all the ones they wrote warning about events like 911, the Cole, Kenya and Tanzania bombings, etc. I mean, these guys and the State Dept. Intelligence gurus are infallible in the eyes of the LLL media. How come only the ones that fit the Thymes partisanship have any merit worth discussing.
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The problem with the article is that while Austin Bay disagrees with the content of the NIE, nowhere does he show that it's an old estimate. He merely asserts that its conclusions are out of date. Just because you disagree with someone (and I, based on nothing but what I read, concur that the NIE is probably not reflective of the current situation), doesn't mean that you should imply that the NYT published an out of date document.
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RWV, you are exactly right. The posting and comment are nonsense.
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RWV and Mike, the issue is not the report being outdated (it was released in July) but the information and data that makes it up was from March through June 2004. Lot of water under the bridge since then - including handover to the Iraqis. The NYT is either disengenuous knowing the above facts or is just naive in not understanding that report dates are not necessarily as current as the date suggests but depends on posted data and time to analyze it and condense it. That doesn't even appear in the report. They report it as if in July this was the situation which it wasn't but rather the situation in the spring.
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Re #4 (JIB): (it was released in July) but the information and data that makes it up was from March through June 2004
I don't see that info in the posting.
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Where is the corpus delicatable? No date, no case, it's all lies! Quagmire!
I have heard (nevermind where) the data cited is vintage April during the Fallujah. And like most good sets of analysis, there is the Optimist, Pessimist and "Realist" sets of analysis, and this one was the Pessimists report - meant to show "worst case" so the full set of risks could be properly assessed.
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OS, I believe. The real question is who is leaking NIE's to try and support Kerry. There seem to be a lot of political holdovers from the long dark night of the Clinton years.
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Old Spook, did you check out Ellsberg's call on all traitors to release whatever damaging information they posess to sing the election. He is a gift that keeps on giving.
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Ellsberg? Well, what more would expect from him? He wants people to break their oaths.
As for the NIE leak, not only are there Clintonites, there are people in DoD who hate Rumsfeld, and may be stupid enough to think they can control Kerry and his SecDef.
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Someone should do a pseudodocument creation, something like Daniel Ellsberg psychiatric files, a missing page from the stolen files, which show conclusively that Ellseberg was planning to vote for Nixon in 1972, had found funding for a USO poetry reading tour of Viet Nam and that is why he was seeing a shrink, etc; written in MS Word of course with emoticons, and the works.
al-Qaeda's threat to attack the United States before the Nov. 2 election is geared less toward affecting the outcome of the presidential race than toward making a violent statement to Islamic extremists worldwide, senior counterterrorism officials said Monday. The officials said the network's aim in the United States, and in other countries as well, is mainly to disrupt the democratic process in a more general sense. "Striking America at a time of heightened sensitivity, perhaps they would see that as a feather in their cap," said one senior administration official, who along with three others briefed reporters on condition of anonymity Monday about the pre-election threat.
THEY WANT TO KILL US - that is you, me, everyone - black, white, hispanic, christian, jew and even muslims who don't buy into wahabiism. It is rather quite simple - that is why Kerry will lose big time and Bush gets 4 more. The message is the medium not the inverse.
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Well any "spectacular" devices going off here near election day may yield a large crater over there and certain "enemy combatants" placed in the center so they can absorb some "glow"...
THE U.S. HAS PRESENTED EVIDENCE TO SYRIAN PRESIDENT BASHAR AL-ASAD ABOUT THE INVOLVEMENT OF SYRIAN OFFICIALS IN PROVIDING SAFE HAVEN TO FORMER IRAQI OFFICIALS TO ORGANIZE AND CARRY OUT TERRORIST ACTIVITIES AGAINST THE MULTINATIONAL FORCE IN IRAQ. (AL-MASHRIQ, BAGHDAD, 9/26/04)
A SPOKESMAN FOR THE U.S. ARMY SAID THAT AT LEAST 100 MEN, INCLUDING ONE OF ZARQAWI'S KEY AIDES, WERE CAPTURED, AND MANY WERE KILLED IN THE LAST FEW DAYS. HE ALSO SAID THAT SOME OF ZARQAWI'S ASSISTANTS WERE EXECUTED BY HIM BECAUSE OF DISAGREEMENTS. (AL-SABAH, BAGHDAD, 9/27/04)
DURING A DEBATE ON THE MUSLIM VEIL ON AL-JAZEERA TV, A SENIOR QATARI CLERIC SAID THAT THE CAMPAIGN AGAINST THE VEIL IS WAGED BY INTERNATIONAL ZIONISM IN ORDER TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MUSLIM WOMEN. (AL-JAZEERA, QATAR, 9/28/04)
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A SENIOR QATARI CLERIC SAID THAT THE CAMPAIGN AGAINST THE VEIL IS WAGED BY INTERNATIONAL ZIONISM IN ORDER TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MUSLIM WOMEN.
He doesnt get it does he. Now who is taking advantage the father who sells his daughter to the highest bidder or the guy who wants to give her a choice (ofcourse then the father does not get the money). Stop selling your daughters in the name of marriage then we can talk about Taking Advantage
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Stop selling your daughters in the name of marriage then we can talk about Taking Advantage
Hey! It's the only productive thing Islam has had to offer for...oh....12 centuries?
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It seems that without their veils Muslim women have no defense against the sheer, overwhelming, sexual animal magnetism of us Zionists. Bwaaahahaha!
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I dont think that these mullahs can give them enough. They are scared of the competition. Also if you see the "Merchandize" before sale you may say NO DEAL
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This is a must read. It seems the mullahs have no allies left.
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"... As in other parts of the Muslim regions of the former Soviet Union, the Iranians were much less interested in spreading militant Islam than penetrating the political, military, security and economic institutions of these emergent states."
Oh, thats OK then.
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A top al Qaeda lieutenant has met with leaders of a violent Salvadoran criminal gang with roots in Mexico and the United States — including a stronghold in the Washington area — in an effort by the terrorist network to seek help infiltrating the U.S.-Mexico border, law enforcement authorities said. Adnan G. El Shukrijumah, a key al Qaeda cell leader for whom the U.S. government has offered a $5 million reward, was spotted in July in Honduras meeting with leaders of El Salvador's notorious Mara Salvatrucha gang, which immigration officials said has smuggled hundreds of Central and South Americans — mostly gang members — into the United States.
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Terrorist groups like Al Qaeda are relying on "cash couriers" to smuggle finances across international borders for their activities - throwing up a new challenge to the war on terrorism, a US official has said. At a symposium here, US State Department official William Pope said Washington was facing a more determined and lesser known but equally powerful cadre of terrorist leaders who were harder to track down. Delivering the keynote address at the symposium organised by the National Bureau of Asian Research on Strategic Asia, Pope said the US had effectively driven out terrorists from the international financial system with greater international vigilance of banks.
However, these groups were seeking other means of moving money across international borders, evading banks and using informal financial channels, he said. Pope said: "The movement of money via cash couriers is now one of the principle methods that terrorists use to move funds." The Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups were in the process of forming "a global jehadist network" by establishing links with like-minded groups, he said. The network controlled by Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi, who has claimed responsibility for a series of beheadings of hostages, including of US citizens, in Iraq, is part of this. Pope said there were also growing indications that a number of extremist Sunni organisations were try to imbibe the Al Qaeda in an attempt to pursue a global jihad. Since the end of 2001, more than 170 countries had issued orders freezing or seizing about $142 million in terrorist-related financial assets while 1,500 terrorist related accounts and transactions have been blocked, Pope said.
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Good. If al-Queda couriers become known for carrying cash with them, then they'll be prime targets for random thugs, the soldiers of the underground, and their own fellows. There's a reason we use banks, instead of caravans full of jingling strong-boxes.
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Steady, systematic pressure will make it harder for jihadis to strike, move funds, communicate, assemble. This is a systematic war of attrition. It will not be a magic bullet war. Just dedicated people working systematically to tear this system of evil apart, piece by piece.
Except of course for the PD Strip, the 40 km wide bit of oil patch in eastern Saudi Arabia.....
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...Twelve Nepalese citizens are slaughtered — Islam. A metro station is bombed — Islam. Civilian aircraft crash — Islam. A school is taken and the souls of 50 children [are lost] for the soul of [each] terrorist — Islam. A bus is bombed here, a railway train there, and before that there were hospitals and theaters, etc 
all of them Islamic acts. [Behind] the color green are exposed rivers red with blood, flowing in the streets and public squares. And Muslims everywhere.
"Islam is in the names of all of the organizations that decapitate using knives, all the while saying the Fatiha [the first chapter of the Koran, said as a prayer] before the slaughter. The victims are butchered in the Islamic way 
Christians, Buddhists, and Jews
After all, they are only infidels, fuel for the blaze, enemies, or potential enemies, or the friends of enemies, or their neighbors, and so on. The soul has no value and the body parts are laid out and displayed on the tables of Islam 
Islam 
Islam. The Islamic press searches for something that will absolve 'Islam' of the crimes of the Shahada [martyrdom]
It is Islam that adorns television screens with body parts
Islam — whether those who praise its mercies like it or not — is the foul odor of the putrefaction of Islamic history and its stench, as well as [being] other things that are honorable, which some people like and others do notâ€Å
"Ignominious terrorism exists, and one cannot but acknowledge its being Islamic. Anyone who is unable to bear its ignominy and wishes to absolve himself of the ugly mark of terror which is stamped in our soul 
must scrutinize the recesses of his mind and search out there the terror that conceals itself behind pretty and misleading names
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'What Gets Passed on from One Generation to the Next is the Belief in Legal Rulings that Forbid Thought and Permit Killing'
"Self-examination 
would result in favor of abandoning Islam 
yet what gets passed... {he ends up calling for reform from within]
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Hmmm... here and there, little sparks of awareness, and cautious, tippy-toe moves in the direction of self-criticism. A trend? A movement? A tectonic shift? Who knows? I'm sure as hell not going to be holding my breath waiting for Islam to cure itself of its sickness, but I have to admit: every now and then, I see an encouraging sign. And they seem to be coming slightly more frequently.
We'll see.
Posted by: Dave D. ||
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I've seen maybe 4. That leaves 1,199,999,996 to go. At the rate of one every 2 days, we should have this resolved by 6,572,846 A. D. Good decision not to hold your breath, Dave.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis ||
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Maybe it is the beginning of an exponential rate of change for the better (/eternal optimist)
All I know is that they better ramp reform up or Islam will be on the business end of a JDAM or worse.
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Remember folks - decapitations, massacres, and rape are not objectively bad things... only if they bring bad publicity to our campaign.
Yeah. And truth be told, I'm not terribly optimistic that there's going to be much more change without us bumping off the Mad Mullahs and Baby Bashir and his Baathists, at least: these assholes sure aren't quick learners.
I support Bush's approach-- the "Middle East Democracy" bit-- and I can understand the rationale for it as well as the ethical arguments for why we must at least give reform an earnest effort before reaching the point where any further terrorist attacks trigger a war of annihilation which ends up obliterating much of the Arab world.
But I'm not optimistic anymore that it'll work.
Posted by: Dave D. ||
09/28/2004 17:40 Comments ||
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Same here, Dave.
If any of us were in Bush's shoes (and not intellectually challenged, of course) we'd get it: he has to check the boxes. All of the boxes.
Just like going to the UN one last time before whacking Saddam. So many people ankle-biting and bitching about nuking everything the minute they get a burr up their asses. It's truly stupid.
History will look back and recognize that, though he got shit-all recognition or credit for it from the morons, he did give both fair warning and every reasonable chance. Whether it was "taken" will be part of history, as well.
Indeed, we live in interesting times. And we're surrounded by twits, sick dicks, and crybabies -- not to mention murderous enemies.
In case that didn't push you into depression, read this
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Well, Fred, I guess you need a quickie in-line function to check & break these long strings posted by fucknozzles like aNoDick6706 - and auto-add the IP to the shit list. That would be a nice kicker.
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"So many people ankle-biting and bitching about nuking everything the minute they get a burr up their asses. It's truly stupid."
Also, the ones who can't understand why it was necessary to invade Iraq first before tackling Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia.
And the ones who had to have Bush "make the case" for getting rid of Saddam-- anyone who's been paying the slightest bit of attention to current events since 1991 should have been able to figure that out for himself.
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I thought H3 and H1 made damn nice sites for launch platforms... ;-)
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Mrs D - Excellent link...
"We are 70 percent of the people," said Ali before I left him. They are the most redoubtable weapon of mass destruction against the mullahs, I keep telling myself. They are the end of the tunnel, if only we could recognize that there is tunnel out there and not a dead-end — if only we decided to lend them our voice."
I suggest we lend them a shitload of TLAMs, cruise missiles, and stealth bombers. Shock & Awe Iran in a decap strike to end all decaps. Then this 70 percent can retake their country from the Mad Mullahs. Coincidentally will be JDAM-City and Bunker-Buster Central on every know and suspected nuke facility.
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Dave D - Amen. The DU Talking Points aren't meant to stimulate debate or discussion, they're meant to stifle it with memes which take reams to explain. Intentionally dense pointless circular rhetoric is the true goal. Obfuscation, distraction, and disingenuous faux dialog. Such is the main tool of the fools. I wonder just how many have clue one regards who's pulling the strings back behind the curtain... They scream about Rove, et al, when they are the ones being so deftly manipulated. They're a pathetic lot. If I didnt have to go down with them to demonstrate the point, I'd be tempted. But I'm not. Fug 'em.
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Thanks, Mrs. D. That was a tough thing to read.
This war began for me on November 4, 1979 when the Khomeinists overran the American embassy in Tehran and held the staff hostage for 444 days.
On September 11, 2001 my main thought was, "well, I wonder if we're going to finally start taking these Islamic bastards seriously? They mean to kill or convert us all."
We may have to kill their god.
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We may have to kill their god.
hokay
Posted by: Frank G ||
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"They're a pathetic lot. If I didnt have to go down with them to demonstrate the point, I'd be tempted. But I'm not. Fug 'em."
What scares me most about the Left is that they don't seem to have much more sense than the Muslims, and the thought that they may not have sense enough to refrain from the kinds of abuses that can only be undone by violent revolt.
They don't understand, there's a reason the Constitution was designed to limit the power of government over our lives: it's so that no matter what the government does, it can't do anything important enough to make us rip one another's throats out over it.
And I fear we may be getting close to the point where that's exactly what we start doing. The "final insult" that propelled me away from the Democratic Party was the realization that Al Gore didn't just want to defeat the Republican candidate, he wanted to destroy all Republicans because he hates them down to the core of his soul.
Or whatever passes for a soul.
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I'm surrounded by liberal nut bags (Marin Cty, CA). These people are so clueless it would be sad if it were not so danerous. They actively work for the defeat of America. They are specifically uncomfortable with America as Alpha dog and seek every way possible for us to roll over and expose our belly to the enemy.
Regardless of their whining, it becomes more clear every day that the enemy is being hurt and hurt badly. Articles calling for introspection by Muslims do not appear out of ether. They are being driven to it by the disgusting and failed actions of those most visible in their religion. Failed is the key here. As the terrorists make more and more hardened enemies, the average Muslim is going to realize that they cannot live outside the Arab world without being a pariah.
We have to keep the pressure on and increase it in cases like Iran/Syria (esp. Iran). We can and will win this.
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Do appreciate Mrs. D's wit.
Posted by: The Ol Prof ||
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Just an evil thought...
It would be damn hard to blaim the USA if a small meteor wandered a bit in its orbit and slamed into a chunk of real estate. I'm thinking some positive vibs... that would solve a whole bunch of problems with no weapons or blaim.
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here and there, little sparks of awareness, and cautious, tippy-toe moves in the direction of self-criticism. A trend? A movement? A tectonic shift? Who knows? ...every now and then, I see an encouraging sign.
Indeed. Another 200 years and this religion, too, will understand that the earth is round and that life is preferable to death.
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Thanks kindly, indeed, Ol Prof. Wish you'd taught at my college.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis ||
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Would you root for "moderation" in Nazism?
Islam is a primitive, totalitarian ideology. Nothing but its complete defeat will do. Imagine the Aztecs ripping the pulsing heart out of their victims, and making DVDs out of it. Moslem depravity and cruelty has been the rule for 1400 yeas already. The time has come to destroy Islam.
Until 9/11 I didn't have much time to think about Islam -- 'tis merely another religion, I supposed. In the past three years I've had time to study the Moslems' history and ideology. My conviction is that their values are thoroughly evil and they must be destroyed. If we are to survive.
Make mine Orville Redenbacher's Lite! efl
RAMALLAH, West Bank - Palestinians marked the fourth anniversary of their uprising Tuesday amid signs that the extremist Hamas group is preparing a political challenge to Yasser Arafat despite a series of Israeli military blows at the movement's leadership. Yasser's M.O. has been to quash any threats to his position. And he's been very good at it (obviously -- although, to remain in power, he's stuck in a bombed out shell, unable to leave). Recently, however, paleos seem to be more disillusioned with him than ever before. After all, he hasn't pushed the Jews into the sea, and his wife is livin' large in Paris. And there's a lot of evidence that he's a corrupt, egocentric bastard (well there has been for some time, but no one believed Israel). This should be interesting.
Hamas published newspaper ads urging supporters to vote in upcoming municipal elections, saying "it's time for change." And a top Hamas leader indicated the group might try to unseat Arafat in presidential elections, which have not yet been scheduled.
The kidnapping, coupled with Hamas' electoral challenge, were apt reflections of the state of affairs in the West Bank and Gaza Strip after four years of fighting with Israel. The violence has left Arafat's Palestinian Authority severely weakened, leading to widespread chaos and boosting Hamas' popularity. so paleos will be trading one loser for a group of 'em. At least Israel never made any promises to not kill hamas like they did arafish.
"We need an evaluation of these four years," Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia said. "Where have we been right and where have we been wrong? What did we achieve and what didn't we achieve?" Qureia also called on Israel to reassess its policies. um, lemme help ya with that one, Ahmed
The uprising erupted on Sept. 28, 2000, after Ariel Sharon, then Israel's opposition leader, visited a sensitive Jerusalem hilltop revered by both Jews and Muslims. Palestinian riots broke out, and five months later Sharon defeated Ehud Barak in a special election for prime minister. try it this way: the wave of terrorism erupted after Ariel Sharon visited a hilltop revered by Jews and Muslims. The arab reaction -- suicide bombings and murders -- was a barbaric response to what some might consider to be a poor choice on Sharon's part.
The fighting has taken a heavy toll on both sides, killing more than 3,000 Palestinians and nearly 1,000 Israelis. That's 3,000 palestinians, mostly armed terrorists, to 1,000 Israelis, mostly innocent civilians.
But Israel appears to have gained the upper hand. It has confined Arafat to his West Bank headquarters for three years and killed hundreds of leading militants. The Palestinian economy is in tatters. yet hamas still thinks theirs is a winning strategy. incredible.
In a sign of Palestinian weariness, a recent opinion poll by An-Najah University found that two-thirds of Palestinians support a cease-fire with Israel.
"The uprising has not been defeated, but it has not brought victory. Frankly, it is now closer to defeat than victory," commentator Hani al-Masri wrote in the Palestinian daily Al Ayyam. Why should that stop 'em? it NEVER has in the past. they live in a frikkin dreamworld, where facts don't seem to matter.
Sharon has abandoned peace talks with the Palestinians and instead launched a "unilateral disengagement" plan meant to separate the two peoples. The plan includes building a huge barrier to separate Israel from the West Bank and making a complete pullout from Gaza next year.
Hamas is vying with other groups for a prominent role after the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, where Hamas wields great influence despite Israeli assassinations of its top leaders. On Tuesday, Hamas published newspaper ads urging its followers to register to vote in local Palestinian elections, which are scheduled to begin Dec. 9. "Fellow citizens, it's time for change. It's time to register your name," the ad said. Hamas previously said it would participate in the elections, but until Tuesday it had shown minimal interest in the campaign.
The call came a day after a Hamas leader was quoted as saying the group planned to contest legislative and presidential elections, which Arafat has promised to hold but has not yet scheduled. The comment by Mahmoud Zahar marked the first time Hamas made such a commitment. a coherent, well thought out plan, it seems
A strong Hamas campaign could pose a formidable challenge to Arafat. The veteran Palestinian leader consented this month to hold municipal elections in response to widespread discontent over his corruption-plagued government. Arafat has long resisted elections, saying Israeli military occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip make orderly voting impossible. But critics accuse him of making excuses to avoid facing an electoral test of the growing dissatisfaction with his rule.
Hamas, which has carried out dozens of suicide bombings in Israel, is committed to the destruction of the Jewish state. Even so, Palestinian Authority officials welcomed Hamas' participation in the political process as a sign of moderation. "If Hamas participates in these elections, this will enforce the possibility that Hamas will be closer to a political settlement," said Hassan Abu Libdeh, the Palestinian Cabinet secretary.
Jordan's King Abdullah says only extremists will gain if Iraqi elections go ahead as planned in January. In a text distributed in advance of an interview with the French daily newspaper Le Figaro, the king said "it appears to me impossible to organize indisputable elections in the chaos currently reigning in Iraq." The king also expressed concern that partial elections which excluded cities such as Falluja could isolate Sunni Muslims, saying that could create even deeper divisions in the country.
Abdullah, who is due to meet French President Jacques Chirac in Paris on Tuesday, has been a strong Middle East ally of the United States in its war on terror. In a bid to crack down on these dangerous areas, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell has said the American military will move into insurgent-heavy "no-go zones" in Iraq to clear the way for legitimate elections. Abdullah has also urged Iraqi authorities to reconstitute elements of the old Iraqi army to help train security forces as insurgent attacks wrack the nation.
Falluja police said on Tuesday U.S. airstrikes targeting an al-Zarqawi terrorist site killed at least three people and wounded nine others overnight. The U.S. military says the strikes were targeted at a site where insurgents were planning suicide bombings against Iraqi citizens and security forces.
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And Jordan is unsafe for US Aid representatives. Sorry, Harley-boy, guess we'll have to get back to you when you've cleaned up your own cesspool a bit.
Fazl lashes out at 'alliance of evil'
The leader of the opposition in the National Assembly, Maulana Fazlur Rehman, has said that evil powers have united against Islam and the US wants to occupy resources of the Muslim world.
Curses! He's onto my plan!
Speaking at a large gathering at the Madressah Hammadia here on Sunday night, he said that the Western media had launched a smear campaign against Islam and the Muslims.
"We're so put upon!"
The Maulana, who is general secretary of the Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal, said that despite the opposition from the entire world, the US had attacked Afghanistan and Iraq and even today it was not able to produce evidence of terrorism against two countries. On the contrary, he said, a US commission had come to the conclusion that there was no need of going to the wars even then the US president was insisting on the legality of the wars. Maulana Fazl further said that the US forces had not been able to suppress the fury of the people of Afghanistan and Iraq, and predicted that US troops would be subjected to a shameful defeat.
"... any day now."
The MMA leader warned that the entire world would become Afghanistan and Iraq for the US if it did not desist from the anti-Islam policy. He said that the rulers of Pakistan wanted to make the US happy but the MMA was not afraid of the super power.
"Yeah! Youse ain't so tough!"
Referring to the uniform of President Gen Pervez Musharraf, the Maulana said that the aim of wearing the uniform was to safeguard borders but the president did not want to shed uniform in order to remain in power.
... which is a statement that patently makes no sense, regardless of one's opinion on Perv's soldier suit.
Commenting over the US support to the president, he termed it a double standard of the US and said that on the one hand, it was at war in Afghanistan and Iraq in the name of democracy, and on the other, it was supporting a 'dictator' in Pakistan.
"Yeah! If yer gonna support a dictator in Pakland, wossa motta with me?"
Speaking on the occasion, Hafiz Hussain Ahmed said that President Musharraf was bound to shed his uniform according to the 17th amendment. He lauded the NWFP assembly for opposing the uniform and the Balochistan Assembly for not supporting it, and said that they had upheld the cause of democracy. Later, Maulana Fazlur Rehman performed Dastar Bandi of some Hiffaz-i-Quran and Ulema.
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This is proof positive that at least some forms of Islam are hazardous to one's mental health. This guy needs to be locked up in a padded room, and the key given to the nearest wino.
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This guy seems to have a mental disorder undetected due to the poor health care in 3rd world. Hey wait maybe thats why he ia a Mullah. I think he is not finding any GOATS these days hence the repeated outbursts. I wonder if a 5.56 mm hole in the cranium will relieve some of the pressure that is compressing his brain so bad.
Under international pressure to disarm and disband Arab militias in troubled Darfur, Sudan's government is instead reportedly moving hundreds, possibly thousands, of the fighters from Darfur to remote areas of southern Sudan. Some observers say the government is trying to hide the militiamen. That's according to numerous sources from the remote Shilluk Kingdom and Nuba Mountain regions of southern Sudan. Aid workers and officials from the southern rebel group, the Sudanese People's Liberation Army, or SPLA, say they have seen as many as 600 Arab fighters being transported by government trucks near the town of Malakal, south of the Nuba Mountains. SPLA commander Lam Akol said at least 200 Janjaweed fighters were transported from Malakal south along the White Nile to the town of New Fanjak -- which is now called, Fam -- and then eventually to Nasir town, near the Ethiopian border. That was about two weeks ago. "I was in the area -- I just came on Friday -- and eyewitness reports from within Malakal itself have confirmed that janjaweed were brought into Malakal town and taken to New Fanjak and Nasir. And, of course, the purpose would be to hide them from international eyes into what is supposed to be a very far-flung area of Sudan," he says.
Dirdeiry Ahmed, the deputy ambassador to the Sudan Embassy in Nairobi, denied the reports. He says they are part of an effort by the SPLA and other groups to discredit the Sudanese government in the eyes of the international community, thus weakening their position in the final round of peace talks with the SPLA next week in Kenya. "This is (a) figment of someone's imagination. Luckily, we're having two international bodies monitoring the Nuba Mountains and the Shilluk Kingdom. We're having the VMT there at the Shilluk Kingdom and the JMC, the Joint Military Commission there in the Nuba Mountains. And definitely they are the right bodies to review the allegations. Nothing like this is happening. They are just rumors. They are definitely being touted by some people who just want to make use of what is happening in Darfur and to create more complications for the government of Sudan," he says. The VMT that Mr. Ahmed mentions refers to the Verification Monitoring Team, the monitoring arm of the Intergovernmental Authority on Development which is overseeing the peace process. A spokesman for the VMT said they have not investigated, nor have they been asked to investigate, whether the reports are true. The JMC also has not investigated these latest reports of janjaweed movements in southern Sudan.
Then exactly what are you doing there, besides collecting per diem?
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Very typical of Arabs, very fierce against civilians and leacherous towards women but once it is "mano a mano", they prefer to run like hell and hide.
Pretty hard to define it without including exploding in pizza parlors and chopping people's heads off. They're working on it, though...
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"Crimes committed by a handful of criminals and misguided felons cannot justify incriminating a whole society or an entire culture," Saudi Arabia's deputy foreign minister, Nizar Obaid Madani, said Monday.
agreed. but when:
1. arab nations financially and logistically support those criminals,
2. the entire population of the region celebrates and enables those crimes,
3. the police force and leadership in place does nothing to stop those crimes,
that incriminates a whole society and an entire culture.
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And do not forget that everything considered evil is projected onto Israel and the Jooooos. Otherwise, it is the RoP.....................
MA
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Fuck why are we even discussing this. Just tell the Camel Jockeys to Straighten up and take responsibility for their citizen's actions or else........Soddy will glow in the dark. It is the time to take the real hardline stance they understand. A handful of people we dont care keep your assholes bottled up or we take the lid off these babies.
September 28, 2004: While the U.S. Department of Defense won't release any data on enemy deaths in Iraq, the Iraqi Health Ministry has begun doing so. In the six month period from early April to early September, 3,487 Iraqis were killed because of combat action. Another 13,720 Iraqis were wounded. This data only covered fifteen of Iraq's 18 provinces. The three Sunni Arab provinces that are most hostile to the government made collecting such data there impossible.
During that same period, 432 American soldiers were killed, in all 18 provinces. The Iraqi deaths also include government security forces (police and troops.) The Iraqi casualties in the three Sunni Arab provinces were high, and probably increased the overall number of deaths by at least 20 percent, to about 3,800 adult males killed. Some of these were innocent civilians caught in the cross fire. Actually, a third of them were, according to the Health Ministry, were Iraqis killed by anti-government forces. The Health Ministry also believes that many deaths of anti-government fighters are not reported, to prevent further investigation of the family by the police. Coalition troops have noted anti-government fighters trying to take their dead with them, for the same reason.
That's SOP for any terrorist group. Not only so the government can't count the dead, but also to keep them from IDing them.
What American troops do report, and this is often observed when journalists are about, are strenuous efforts to avoid civilian casualties. About two thirds of Iraqis are women and children. Since only nine percent of the combat dead are women and children, the American efforts appear to be working. The Israelis use the same approach when fighting Palestinians, and get the same results. Moreover, the Israelis have much more information available on the Palestinians they are fighting, and have found that over 80 percent of the adult males killed are actually hostile fighters.
American troops appear to have a 4:1 casualty ratio (for dead Iraqis for each dead American) with the anti-government forces. This varies quite a lot depending on the type of unit. American combat units appear to have a 10:1 ratio, while non-combat units, which get hit by roadside bombs, ambushes and mortar attacks, have a less than 2:1 ratio. The non-combat troops often fire back when they have a chance, but experience has shown that the best way to deal with an ambush is to increase speed and drive away from it. The overall experience with American troops shows why the anti-government forces and terrorists prefer to attack Iraqis. However, even this is becoming less effective, as better trained Iraqi combat troops appear in greater numbers. Some 90 percent of the of the coalition combat operations are conducted by American troops.
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If you remove the weapon for the posession of a dead jihadi, he becomes a civilian casualty in the MSM tally.
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Nigerian rebels fighting for sovereignty of the oil-producing Niger delta have told oil companies in the world's seventh largest exporter to shut production before they begin an "all-out war" on October 1. The Niger Delta People's Volunteer Force, in a communique issued late on Monday after a meeting of its central command, also advised all foreigners to leave the delta, according to the group's leader Mujahid Dokubo-Asari. The delta pumps all of Nigeria's 2.3 million barrels per day output.
The communique accused Royal Dutch Shell Group, Nigeria's largest oil producer, and Italy's Agip, a unit of ENI, of "collaboration with the Nigerian state in acts of genocide against our people". Asari told Reuters after the meeting his group would not attack oil pipelines because it did not want to pollute the delta environment, but foreign oil workers would be targeted from October 1. The violence has so far had a minimal effect on oil supply, but companies fear a repeat of last year's Ijaw rebellion which forced them briefly to shut 40 percent of production. Shell has already evacuated more than 200 staff from the fighting. In New York, crude oil futures jumped 36 cents in electronic trading to the $50 (28 pounds) a barrel level, the highest in the 21 years oil futures have traded on the exchange. Continued on Page 49
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It was a swipe at the wind-power-loving liberals and the Christian killing African rebels, at the same time. Maybe I should keep it simple next time.
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Just stick with the large puppets. Everybody likes them better.
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Nigerian civil war Mullahs with nukes AMZ-Iraq China Taiwan Afghanistan Chavez Putin's Russia collapsing Mt St Helens Jeanne Ivan Calquakes aaaaaaaaaa
By Amir Buhbut 9-28-04
Since the intifada erupted four years ago, 1,017 Israelis were killed, of them 70% were civilians and 30% members of Israeli security forces, data published by the ISA this (Monday) afternoon after four years of confrontation reveal. According to the data, Palestinian militants perpetrated 13,730 shooting attacks and 138 suicide bombings. Nearly 5,600 Israelis were injured during the time period, of them 82% civilians and 18% security forces personnel. The bloodiest year was 2002 during which 452 Israelis were killed and 2,309 sustained injuries.
A significant drop has occurred since then, culminating in 2004 during which 97 Israelis were killed, another 441 injured. However, the firings of Kassam rockets have risen steadily in the past year. In 2002, only 25 rockets landed within the Green Line, 15 in Gaza and two on the West Bank. In 2004, 118 landed in Israel and 41 in the Gaza Strip. The ISA also outlined the growing involvement of Hezbollah in Palestinian terrorist activities. The Lebanese terror group mode of operation concentrates on assisting terrorists or foreign accomplices penetrate Israel, smuggling arms, financial backing and setting up a terrorist infrastructure in Palestinian territories or among Israeli-Arabs.
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The intifada didn't "erupt" - it was a simple mercenary decision by Arafat to keep his money flowing and the skimmer in tune. These people died because:
1) Arafat is a corrupt whore
2) The Arab "states" and the EU happily give money to murderers
Peace would've meant the end to the gravy train because a "state" would have been much tougher to fleece - recall that part of the "peace process" required independent auditing. Arafat has been sucking air for far far too long. Bush was the first world leader to call a spade a spade and brand Arafat as the roadblock to peace. I'd like to see Bush go after Arafat for the murder of the US Ambassador to Sudan and 2 other diplomats (Crime and No Punishment: Cleo Noel and Western Appeasement), but I'll take what I can get. It's a helluvalot more than Clintoon or any other predecessor has ever done.
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The loonies at the U.S Stink Department was always undermining Bush, when he wanted to sideline Arafart. I witnessed it, over and over again. You know, the same Stink Department that let the Soddy killers into the U.S, before 9/11. I hear that the Stink Department is still allowing Soddies into the U.S. without checking them out. I have no proof, I could be wrong.
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Israel's national security barriers is preventing the majority of Islamic death cult attacks against Israeli civilians. The quicker the remaining portions of the barrier can be constructed more lives will be saved.
In other words when you know there are sick demented lunatics intent on committing Islamic suicide only if they can harm the innocent, wall them out, since they have elected to longer be live in the civilized world.
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Jordan said on Monday that the West Bank fence will interfere with establishing a stable Palestinian state and have a spillover effect that will threaten neighboring countries. In a speech to the United Nations, Foreign Minister Marwan Muashar said the barrier will interfere with the establishment of a viable independent Palestinian state and harm all aspects of Palestinian political, social and economic life. "This set of circumstances is bound to have spill-over implications into neighboring countries, especially Jordan ... The separation wall threatens the national security" of the kingdom, he said.
Perhaps you should have sat on your cousins a little earlier, eh?
This is not the first time Muashar has made such comments. In an July 31 interview with Haaretz, Muashar called the fence a "grave national security threat," saying that a viable Palestinian state is necessary to prevent mass Palestinian immigration from Israel into Jordan. Muasher added at the time that Jordan did not oppose the fence itself, ...
"No, no! Certainly not!"
... but stated that the current route prevented the creation of a viable Palestinian state. In the speech, Muashar called for a revived peace process to settle the Israeli-Palestinian conflict based on the U.S. "road kill" "road map" that demands specific steps from both sides.
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Oh yeah, Harley-boy is our best buddy. Yew-betcha.
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hmmm - the logic of the complaint escapes me. Perhaps they figure that the seething Paleos will have to turn east to release their pent-up desire to kill innocent civilians? That damn wall sure complicates things....for some
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I thought the "road map" crashed and burned a couple of years ago...
As for the wall "interfere(ing) with the establishment of a viable independent Palestinian state" - that's a feature, not a bug.
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Jordan said on Monday that the West Bank fence will interfere with establishing a stable Palestinian state..
I find this whole business about "establishing a Palestinian state" too funny for words. What have the Palestinians done that indicates they deserve one?
Zarqa is a dusty, dirty city. The houses sprawl over a series of brown, sun-blasted hillsides. It has a reputation for being the home to the car trade, and for crime. It is also home to Iraq's most wanted man - Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. The name means, "the man from Zarqa". Zarqawi himself has been on the run for years. But his wife and four children still live in a two-storey house on the edge of town. His brother-in-law Saleh al-Hami also lives across the road. He was eager to put the record straight about his notorious relative. Zarqawi is a good man, he insisted, a good Muslim, who has gone to Iraq out of principle to fight the American-led occupation.
Yasss, just a pious man gone wrong.
This rough town provided inauspicious roots for a man the Americans credit with leading a large part of the Iraqi resistance. When he was in his teens, it seemed that Zarqawi was destined for a life of petty crime. He was known as a bit of a thug, a lowlife.
But while few claim Zarqawi is a great intellectual, it appears he does have the ability to lead: the ability to persuade, or to bully, others to follow him. "He is a leader, he is strong, straight to the point, with a very strong personality," says Leith Shubeilat, an Islamic activist imprisoned with Zarqawi in the 1990s. What sounds like an obsessive personality gradually turned Zarqawi from crime to the more dangerous pursuit of radical Islam, with its fiery mix of religion and politics. He travelled to Pakistan and Afghanistan, although his relationship with Osama Bin Laden is disputed. In 1993, Zarqawi was arrested in Jordan, after the authorities discovered rifles and bombs stashed in his house. In the next years in prison, he turned to learning the Koran by heart. Then in 1999, he was released by the Jordanians as part of a general amnesty.
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If you want us out so badly that you are willing to execute our countrymen (the ones who are risking their lives every day to help your country be successfully free), you lose your right to gripe later about how dangerous things are or how hard your lives are. You don't get both. You can't play France's hand with our ante.
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This coward needs to be banished from Earth. I predict he will be an after-thought soon. Bye bye coward say hello to allah for me. Oh yeah one more thing. The virgins that are supposed to be waiting for you in the afterlife. I've already done them all.
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"The American jets killed 200 or 300 daily"
Are they talking about Civilians? Are they talking about right now? I want to know where the hell they got/get that figure. Oh yea Al Jizzarea, right. I got an idea we just kill them all and be done with it, take there stuff put it in a big pile and burn it. GD Arabs are as insufferable as the Greeks only much thicker skulled. Zarqawi is a convicted sex ofender yet he is a Islamic Hero. Islam the cult of satan.
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