Cites CBS poll on CNN because it favors Obama more
CNN pundit and prospective Secretary of State appointee Fareed Zakaria gushed over President Barack Obama's foreign policy debate performance on Monday night.
"[Obama] quite effectively pointed out that Romney was indecisive or waffled on an issue or gone back and forth ... and he kept saying being commander-in-chief, being president is about being consistent," Zakaria said.
Zakaria later overlooked CNN's own instant poll of debate watchers by citing a CBS poll that showed a larger margin of victory for Obama.
"The gap for Obama is much higher; I think they are exactly right," he said.
Zakaria, who has criticized America's democracy, backed containment on a nuclear Iran, and expressed hostility toward Israel, is being floated as a high-level diplomat in a second Obama administration and has even been touted as a potential successor to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. That did not prevent CNN from giving him a platform as a nonpartisan pundit in its post-debate analysis.
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Farid is a shafi'i Sunni rat from India...what kind of squeals can you expect from the bilge?
Agent-of-Influence (def.): a well-placed, trusted contact who actively and consciously serves a foreign interest or foreign intelligence services on some matters while retaining his integrity on others.
On August, 19, 2011, during the heat of the Obama Administration's trade negotiations with China, Vice President Joe Biden huddled with his top trade advisors at the St. Regis Hotel in Beijing, China. One seat away from Mr. Biden sat Robert Roche.
Mr. Roche is a mysterious figure, an American expatriate and Obama bundler living in Shanghai, China. Mr. Roche's company, Acorn International, is publicly traded on the New York Stock Exchange and is in partnership with Hu Jintao's government.
The importance of this partnership was exemplified at the 2011 State Dinner for Chinese President Hu Jintao (above), where something rare and virtually unprecedented in American politics occurred.
Three living presidents--Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, and Jimmy Carter--all attended the event and were seated at the head table. Also seated at the power table were Sen. John Kerry and his billionaire wife, Theresa Heinz Kerry; General Electric chief Jeffrey Immelt; Coca Cola Chairman and CEO Muhtar Kent; and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Joining them was Robert Roche--a man whose inconsequential infomercial business hawks everything from cell phones, to exercise equipment, to breast enhancement products.
Telegraphing his influence, Mr. Roche received the most coveted honor of all, a seat just one seat away from President Obama. Left in the cheap seats were former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and numerous other titans of politics, finance, and business with billions of dollars in assets in China, including JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon, CEO of Disney Robert Iger, and Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein...
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JERUSALEM (AP) -- Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, the second worst President and worst former President,
said Monday during a visit to Jerusalem that the prospect of an Israel-Palestinian peace accord is "vanishing," blaming Israeli settlement of the West Bank.
Carter, It's always the Joos fault
a longtime critic of Israeli policies, called the current situation "catastrophic" and blamed Israel for the growing isolation of east Jerusalem from the West Bank. He said a Palestinian state has become "unviable." He, Peanut. It's ALWAYS been unviable, whatever that means.
"We've reached a crisis stage," said Carter, 88. "The two-state solution is the only realistic path to peace and security for Israel and the Palestinians." This is AP so I cut it very short, not that you need to read any more.
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He said a Palestinian state has become "unviable."
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Some enemies you can but respect, but that's rare and its likely a bad idea.
The rule to follow concerning most is do to them precisely what they would do to you. That is a good rule and sufficient unto just about any day.
In any war somebody wins and somebody loses. There is no future in losing and no profit either and profit is ALWAYS a good idea.
The Palestinians are squealing about settlements because carried to its final and logical conclusion it will mean the end of Palestinians. That is a good idea. Plus you get the real estate.
Usually you will never miss your enemies. So negotiations are a waste of time and negotiations only mean you are tired and weak anyway. Avoid negotiations like the plague.
If your enemy wants something never let him have it, even if you yourself don't need it, don't give it to him anyway.
Negotiations? Why does he want it? An end to Settlements ?
It hurts him, that is precisely the point, do it some more and especially to his dog and his mother.
Make sure you write the history books and blame it all on him.
Finish your pie.
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Just ignore this and listen to MSNBC's Matthews. Romney supporters are the ones that are racists. Just ignore the racist tweets. Nothing to see here....
Seriously, these idiots riot give them a whiff of grapeshot. Maybe they will learn something about cause and effect.
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Oh very pretty please DO riot! PLEASE give us a reason and justification to give you that whiff of grapeshot that DV mentioned.
Oh, and we are NOT racist, since we want to prove that we are capable of learning even from Obama and Alinsky the principle of not letting a crisis go to waste....
#3
Not only have Obama voters been making open threats that they will riot and cause mayhem, they have also been caught making direct threats to assassinate Mitt Romney
#4
You recall the last time people* carried out their threats** if the election didn't go their way didn't quite get the results they were looking for. Then again, they don't teach real history anymore, just 'studies'.
* who just so happen to be Donks too.
** bombarding a federal military installation also didn't turn out well for the Japanese 80 year later.
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Boeserker, I had no idea that phase of history happened. None whatsoever, though it explains Detroits current state rather well. They gave the rioters the keys.
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Has links to the original newspaper reports. Lore has it neighborhoods banded together and set up check points.
From the comments: Hey, this is the KC Chamber of Commerce calling. Quit posting all this negativity about the City of Fountains. It's not like we're Detroit...
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The 1967 Newark riots were a major civil disturbance that occurred in the city of Newark, New Jersey between July 12 and July 17, 1967. The six days of rioting, looting, and destruction left 26 dead and hundreds injured.
Same time, different place. I was actually there in the Central Ward when it started; buying some drum kit stuff at the music store that all the surrounding schools used. Thought someone had left over fire works, found out different.
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I was in D.C. in the days following the riots after Martin Luther King's assassination. Whole blocks in flames. Huge amount of lawlessness.
However, I noticed that the blocks the rioters burned were in their own neighborhoods. When we went up to the area around the National Cathedral to pick up another volunteer for one of the relief centers (which were on the edge of the burned-out area), you would have thought nothing had happened - nice sunny Palm Sunday, people walking around like normal. In the burned-out areas and around the federal buildings, an armed soldier on every corner.
I'm pretty sure that's the way it will happen the next time, too - at least in the states where it's legal for people to own guns. Anybody tries to come set my house on fire, they're going to get a fat surprise from my friends Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson.
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I noticed that the blocks the rioters burned were in their own neighborhoods
I suspect any rioting will be confined to Blue areas, although you wouldn't want to be on the fringes. This may be a way for Detroit to get some urban renewal and more land for urban farming at the same time.
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History suggests that any anti-Romney black protests will be autonomous + limited to Watts, Harlem, + LA-style destructive riots.
OTOH, anti-Obama white protests or white militias will not only riot, BUT ARE LIKELY TO START SHOOTING AT US GOVTCRITTERS, be it Obama, Congress, andor Papercrats - IOW, TO DE FACTO ATTEMPT TO OVERTHROW THE GOVT???
This is what happens when Political Elites hide too many things too often from the electorate, e.g. installing OWG + "Global Federal Unions", etc. widout bothering to ask the Voters or Mainstream, lest we fergit aka "the People", iff they want it or to vote for same in popular referendums. POLITICO "HINTING" AT GLOBAL GOVT. IS NOT THE SAME AS DE FACTO "DESCRIBING" GLOBAL GOVT.
"SMART POLITICS" IS NOT ALWAYS PROPER OR GOOD LEADERSHIP, REPRESENTATIVE OR OTHERWISE REGARDLESS OF THE MERITS.
The focus of the last of their three debates was supposed to be foreign policy, but both Romney and Obama used their time to talk about the issues most important to voters: jobs, the economy and the budget. They talked about the auto bailout, school class sizes and Romney's tax plan. At several points, CBS's Bob Schieffer, who served as moderator, tried to bring them back to foreign affairs and national security, but sometimes to no avail.
Romney appeared cautious, especially during the early stages of the debate, but grew more assertive as the evening went on. Throughout the debate, Obama seemed eager and ready to take the fight to his opponent, drawing on his experience to draw contrasts with the challenger. At times, as Romney offered pointed criticism of his policies, Obama glared directly at him. The nerve! He's President, you know!
Romney's central critique was that Obama had been weak in the face of "a rising tide of chaos" and tumult in the world. When Obama charged that Romney has been "all over the map" in his policies, the challenger responded by saying, "Attacking me is not talking about how we're going to deal with the challenges that exist in the Middle East." But the tactic might get him re-elected. But Obama pressed his case that Romney's worldview as well as his prescriptions for the domestic front were not just wrong but also rooted in the past. "When it comes to our foreign policy, you seem to want to import the foreign policies of the 1980s, just like the social policies of the 1950s and the economic policies of the 1920s," he said. Clever, catchy, and tough to refute in 25 words or less. Also meaningless.
Although the two had argued at last week's debate about what happened in Libya and whether the administration had been slow to identify the attack as an act of terrorism, the issue never got a full airing on Monday. And not much of an airing in the WaPo, either.
At one point, Romney argued that he would not support budget cuts to the military, pointing out that the U.S. Navy had reduced its fleet of warships to the lowest number since the early 1900s. "Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets," the president countered, "because the nature of our military's changed. We have these things called aircraft carriers where planes land on them. We have these ships that go underwater, nuclear submarines." Who writes this stuff, the ghost of Johnny Carson?
White voters side with Romney by a 15-point margin (56 to 41 percent), while non-whites break heavily for the president, 78 to 19 percent. Among African Americans, the margin is overwhelming: 94 to 2 percent. What an interesting observation!
The seesawing battle for voters now has Obama with the edge on the enthusiasm front: 64 percent of Obama's backers say they are "very enthusiastic" about his candidacy, higher than the 58 percent of Romney's who are that engaged behind his run. Still, Obama's popularity trails his 2008 levels. That's the best news in this article!
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We are zero for four consecutive seasons and ticket sales continue to decline. Time for a new coach. We shall see who gets the "heel" in a few short weeks.
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I thought Obama looked rambling, all-over the board in his comments, petty, snarky, and not in touch. Since he has been campaigning non-stop for the past two years, it is very likely he is not in touch with the day-to-day affairs of government and really does not have a clue of what's going on.
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The last two debates have been pretty much draws. Obama made his followers comfortable with voting for him, Romney didn't scare independents and his base. I'll bet the current poll trend stays the same while the MSM trumpets that O thrashed everyone in front of him.
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I think I would have preferred to see Newt in this debate. Romney made some good points. I particularly enjoyed his comment about how Putin would find more backbone after the election, as opposed to more flexibility. But overall, I didn't see as much difference between the candidates as I wanted to see. Granted, I'm the kind of individual who wanted to hear Mitt say he was gonna nuke the Mad Mullahs and the Paks too. But there were too many times, for my liking anyway, when he admitted that he agreed with the president. I thought he was also way too lenient with the Chinese when he made the assumption that they don't want war. Well, maybe they don't but the way they've been building their navy and threatening their neighbors you could have fooled me.
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I agree with what you state EU6305, but I think Joe Average is either unaware of or likes our current foreign policy, so in that regard it would be Hi, I'm Mitt Romney, and I will be consistant with our current foreign policy with the exception of a working domestic policy, I will not bow to foreign kings, and I have better hair.
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Romney does have better hair. One thing I noticed when they shook hands before the debate started is that Romney is an inch or two taller, appears to be healthy and vigorous and has a full head of hair. This is not insignificant.
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No, you didn't want to see Newt. Newt would have been a terrible candidate -- it's the one that Champ could beat.
Newt has a number of good qualities, but he's undisciplined as all get out, and his time as a Speaker was a disaster for the Pubs. He's an ideas guy, not a process or policy guy, and ideas guys don't make good Presidents (see Wilson, W., for details).
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Sincerely hope you're right. We'll find out on Nov. 6.
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"you seem to want to import the foreign policies of the 1980s"
US foreign policy was successful beyond the wildest imagination of any 'rational' political observer.
Freedom was expanding then, no sane person proposed that the West adopt civil rights restrictions based on communist doctrine.
The President of the United States did not apologize for the denigration of the Soviet Union, he denigrated the Soviet Union and its political ideology.
Obama apparently thinks that this policy was wrong, perhaps not in spite of bringing down the Soviet Union but because it brought down the Soviet Union.
Fox News Although moderator Bob Schieffer of CBS News raised the topic of the Sept. 11 attack in Libya in his first question onstage Monday in Boca Raton, Fla., Romney and then Obama instead responded by broadening the topic to Al Qaeda, the Arab Spring and the Middle East. Perhaps he misunderstood the question.
Romney only mentioned Libya once, saying that the attack was carried out "apparently by, I think we know now, by terrorists of some kind against our people there." He went on to "congratulate (Obama) on taking out Usama bin Laden and going after the leadership in Al Qaeda. But we can't kill our way out of this mess. We're going to have to put in place a very comprehensive and robust strategy." Well, dronexecution has some advantages compared to a trial in New York City.
"Governor Romney came in here tonight and showed he was presidential," Florida Sen. Marco Rubio said after the debate. "The president was small. ... Only Mitt Romney spoke and acted like a president." I'll watch it this evening, on the DVR.
Joe Trippi, a former campaign manager for Democrat Howard Dean, told Fox News that Romney's strategy was "not to let Obama paint him as the reckless guy who's going to take us to war." That seemed to work in the first debate, when folks found out Romney only had one head and two eyes.
"I just want to call this debate the 'big hug,'" Trippi said, noting examples in the debate of Romney agreeing with Obama's foreign policy. "But I think the president had the edge." WaPo gave O the "edge" in the front-page headline.
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Far too tame. The comment by Willard on the isolation and "treatment" of diplomats of the former apartheid government of SA was revealing, disappointing, and an unstudied denial of very unsavory historical outcomes. Israel had no stronger friend on the continent than that of South Africa. Unfortunately, that friendship was long ago jettisoned by the ANC in favour of a total embrace of Islam.
I would also make sure that their diplomats are treated like the pariah they are around the world. The same way we treated the apartheid diplomats of South Africa.
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Horses & bayonets? Factual statement that there are fewer than 1915, but the tone is like nails on a chalkboard.
And ships that go underwater? They are ones that were sunk by the undersea boats.
Those of us old enough remember the civil disturbances of the late 60s/early 70s. The AZ National Guard conducted an 'on site' experiment with crowd control. Troops were deployed without bayonets, with bayonets but sheathed, and with cold steel [bayonets exposed]. It was only in the latter instance that crowds would back off from the guardsmen. It is still in the inventory for a reason. As for horses, didn't they just unveil a monument to modern horse soldiers recently?
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we still fix bayonets. KABARs still get issued w/every M-4 or M-16 in the USMC inventory as a bayonet attachment. We still do bayonet drills in our MCMAP system. The Brits did a bayonet charge a while back in one of the sand boxes. Champ is good at semantics w/out substance and comments w/out a context.
Country: United Kingdom
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Type: One of six Scottish line infantry regiments
Role: Air assault-Light role
Motto: Nemo Me Impune Lacessit
Simple, well known pop culture references that bayonets did not go out of style after WWI. Heck, back before I started a family there is no telling how many times I was virtually bayonetted in various video games, even hand out award points in some.
Crude submarines go back to the 18th century. First naval aviation strike, 1914 Japan vs. Germany.
If he was trying to show his prowess of military matters, it came off like somebody lecturing me on hand washing when he has toilet paper stuck to the bottom of his shoe.
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I felt sort of blah watching the debate. I kept noticing Romney missing opportunities to attack. The morning commentaries seem to indicate that Romney's strategy worked as only those already decided were bothered by his approach.
Still, we'll never know what the numbers might have been if he'd really gone on the offensive on a number of things instead of letting Obama avoid answering on Russia and allowing a pass on Libya, etc.
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I am hopeful he'll work over those opportunities on stump speeches. Which maybe Fox will cover.
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Barry squirmed around Russia again (did so in '08 but one could presume a lack of knowledge; this time around though...).
I had the SF/STL game on mute. They were showing a replay and I faded out from IIRC a question about Pahkistahn and come back in, he was talking about math teachers.
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Still, we'll never know what the numbers might have been if he'd really gone on the offensive on a number of things instead of letting Obama avoid answering on Russia and allowing a pass on Libya, etc.
A good executive knows how to delegate. Have you checked out the ads the Rs are running today? No coincidence they attack where Romney was more judicious.
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I would have liked an actual fistfight, but that would have been a win the battle/lose the war scenario. Romney appeared presidential, unlike that other guy. And as lotp says, he has other forces to send on the attack missions.
[Daily Nation (Kenya)] US President Barack Obama Ready to Rule from Day One... and Republican foe Willard Mitt Romney ...former governor of Massachussetts, currently the Publican nominee for president. He is the son of the former governor of Michigan, George Romney, who himself ran for president after saving American Motors from failure, though not permanently. Romney has a record as a successful businessman, heading Bain Capital, and he rescued the 2002 Winter Olympics from the midst of bribery and mismanagement scandals. More to the point, he isn't President B.O... battle over foreign policy Monday in their last debate of a White House race that is deadlocked with two weeks to go.
The rivals faced a final chance to land a decisive blow in front of millions of television viewers, before a last-ditch dash for votes in a bitter campaign that has exposed the sharp political divide splitting America in two.
They were expected to duel over policy on Libya, China, Afghanistan, Syria and Iran's nuclear program, though will likely produce more political heat than insight into how either of them would run US diplomacy in the next four years.
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But Obama pressed his case that Romney's worldview as well as his prescriptions for the domestic front were not just wrong but also rooted in the past. "When it comes to our foreign policy, you seem to want to import the foreign policies of the 1980s, just like the social policies of the 1950s and the economic policies of the 1920s," he said.
Although moderator Bob Schieffer of CBS News raised the topic of the Sept. 11 attack in Libya in his first question onstage Monday in Boca Raton, Fla., Romney and then Obama instead responded by broadening the topic to Al Qaeda, the Arab Spring and the Middle East. 
