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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Army Review - Posse Comitatus Violated In Alabama
An Army investigation has found that soldiers should have never been sent to a small Alabama town after 11 people died in March during a shooting spree.

Records from the investigation into why nearly two dozen armed military police were sent to Samson to man traffic stops were released to the Dothan Eagle on Monday after a Freedom of Information Act request. The investigation found the decision to send the soldiers violated federal law. The law doesn't allow the use of military for civilian law enforcement duties.

The records say the officer who made the decision to send the soldiers from nearby Fort Rucker thought he had the authority based on his experience with responses to Hurricanes Katrina and Andrew. The records did not say whether anyone was disciplined.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/19/2009 21:08 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Just some hick calling his buddies from the army base to come help. I doubt that donut could even spell posse.
Posted by: gromky || 10/19/2009 21:52 Comments || Top||

#2  However, it's OK when a liberal does it.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/19/2009 22:49 Comments || Top||

#3  They spelled 'mistake' wrong.
It should have been: 'Testing, Testing.'
As in, looking for reaction, ACLU, some sort of response.
Expect more 'mistakes' as they hone their procedures.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 10/19/2009 23:20 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Scientists claim Large Hadron Collider is being sabotaged from the future
SCIENTISTS claim the giant atom-smashing Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is being jinxed from the future to save the world.

In a bizarre sci-fi theory, Danish physicist Dr Holger Bech Nielsen and Dr Masao Ninomiya from Japan claim the LHC startup has been delayed due to nature trying to prevent it from finding the elusive Higgs boson, or "God particle".

They say their maths proves that nature will "ripple backward through time" to stop the LHC before it can create the God particle, like a time traveller who goes back in time to kill his grandfather.
Posted by: Oztralian || 10/19/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yokay, I'll bite, what did the future OWG-NWO's little widdle HADRON COLLIDER do that was really Really REALLY R-E-A-L-L-Y RRRRRREEEEEE
EEEEEELLLLLYYYYYY BAD, espec as vee STAR TREK:NG's NEXUS SUN/STAR-DESTROYING MISSLE???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/19/2009 1:45 Comments || Top||

#2  "Time Traveler goes back in time to kill his Grandfather" > D *** NG IT, I KNEW IT, I KNEW THATS WHY THEY CAME TO GUAM LONG BEFORE THEY WERE BORN!

Clearly these Lefty Liberal tendencies must come from their ANCESTRAL GREAT GRANDMOTHER'S TEN TIMES TEN ** 26 SIDE OF THE FAMILY!
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/19/2009 1:51 Comments || Top||

#3  Couldn't it just be that you people have no idea of what you're dealing with?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/19/2009 2:38 Comments || Top||

#4  Who's your DADDY! The Higgs boson particle, that's WHO. Lemme hear it - OH YEAH!
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 10/19/2009 4:29 Comments || Top||

#5  In a bizarre sci-fi theory, Danish physicist Dr Holger Bech Nielsen and Dr Masao Ninomiya from Japan claim the LHC startup has been delayed due to nature trying to prevent it from finding the elusive Higgs boson, or "God particle".

In a bizarre non-sci-f theory JFM claims that aquavit and sake are preventing the dicovzery of Hoggs boson.
Posted by: JFM || 10/19/2009 4:31 Comments || Top||

#6  Geek humour folks. But a remarkably large part of the MSM is treating it as authentic news.
Posted by: phil_b || 10/19/2009 5:13 Comments || Top||

#7  I suspect the paper is a joke. On the other hand, if (1) an operating LHC would somehow kill us and (2) the 'many worlds' interpretation of quantum mechanics is correct, then we can only ever percieve a universe in which something happens to break the LHC, no matter how unlikely it is, because in all the universes in which it ran properly, we ceased to exist.
Or, I suppose, Hawking's Chronology Protection Conjecture may apply, if the LHC should in fact turn out to be a time machine. Virtual particles from the future will zip back to the moment at which the time machine first operates and quickly reach high enough energy to break something. Isn't that what the paper says?
Posted by: Grealing Turkeyneck2221 || 10/19/2009 5:38 Comments || Top||

#8  That seems unlikely. Now where'd I put that sonic screwdriver.
Posted by: Dr. Who || 10/19/2009 6:35 Comments || Top||

#9  Damn,I've been found out.
Posted by: Galactic Coordinator Pholush5475 || 10/19/2009 6:53 Comments || Top||

#10  In a bizarre non-sci-f theory JFM claims that aquavit and sake are preventing the discovery of Hoggs boson.

I'm not so sure of that JFM.
Posted by: Heisenberg || 10/19/2009 7:28 Comments || Top||

#11  I always thought a Boson was a particle that escaped the area around a stupid person. Rhis area is know as the Bozone. Once a Boson escapes it changes into a Moron. We have lots of evidence for this in Congress.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 10/19/2009 7:48 Comments || Top||

#12  Deacon, the difference between bosons and fermions is that bosons are not subject to the Pauli exclusion principle, so you can have indefinitely many in the same space. That's evidence for your argument.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 10/19/2009 8:24 Comments || Top||

#13  He said buxoms...he he he
Posted by: BEAVIS || 10/19/2009 8:28 Comments || Top||

#14  Sometimes I think that physics has deteriorated to a mathematical shell game (sort of like global warming models) where nothing can be predicted or demonstrated (see The Trouble with Physics by Dr. Lee Smolin re: string theory). Personally I'd suggest that physicists spend more time on some of the unanswered questions having to do with so-called simple phenomena like light and magnetism.
Posted by: AlanC || 10/19/2009 9:31 Comments || Top||

#15  Ah! so that explains what Adlene Hicheur was up to. An alien from the future, perhaps.
Posted by: tipper || 10/19/2009 9:52 Comments || Top||

#16  I've been on-site all week and I haven't seen any aliens or time travellers.

CLANG! CLUNK!

"OK, WHERE DO YOU WANT THIS PAIR OF SUPERCONDUCTING MAGNETS?"
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 10/19/2009 10:15 Comments || Top||

#17  "BUT THAT WAS AN EXPENSIVE QUADRUPOLE FOCUS!"

"Yes. It was."
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 10/19/2009 10:16 Comments || Top||

#18  It's not the Higgs Boson that's the problem, guys. It's the Marx Bozon.
Posted by: mojo || 10/19/2009 11:02 Comments || Top||

#19  I think what they are *trying* to say is a theory that the Higgs boson is (to some extent) "time and space independent", so efforts to create one in normal time and space will be stopped by the "greater" Higgs boson that exists elsewhere and is not inside the LHC.

This is not as dramatic as it sounds. An analogy is that you pick up a rock, but you can only see the rock, not the planet Earth it was resting on.

If it was just the rock, once you stop its momentum, its inertia should hold it in place. But because of the gravitational pull of the unseen Earth, for some reason the rock "on its own" develops momentum seemingly in violation of Newtonian law, as it is drawn to Earth.

If you could see the Earth, it would make perfect sense. And the same with the Higgs boson. If you could see the "greater" Higgs boson, which does not exist as such in this space time, and you try to drag a little bit of it into this space and time, the rest of it exerts influence on the little bit to prevent it from being pulled into normal space time.

That it exists in the future is speculative. It can also exist in the past. But in either case it has only limited existence and influence in normal space time.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/19/2009 11:20 Comments || Top||

#20  I think my brain just broke.
Posted by: Chemist || 10/19/2009 16:46 Comments || Top||

#21 

People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff.

/It got away from me, yeah.
Posted by: Mizzou Mafia || 10/19/2009 16:49 Comments || Top||

#22  I think my brain just broke

I understood the theory, it's plain to me.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/19/2009 20:33 Comments || Top||

#23  Chemist, I think a strongly exothermic reaction is wanted here.

Feel better? ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/19/2009 20:40 Comments || Top||

#24 

Hadron Collider is being sabotaged from the future


1. So is my bank account.

2. I first read it as "Hardon Collider" and wondered if it was an article about a San Francisco roller derby team.
Posted by: crosspatch || 10/19/2009 22:12 Comments || Top||

#25  88 miles per hour and the Flux Capacitor can allow you to do some really wild sh!t, Professor.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 10/19/2009 23:22 Comments || Top||

#26  "Many worlds," huh?? Any chance this LHC thingy can create a universe where instead of toiling away as a cube dweller, I'm a miscellaneous Rockefeller trust-fund baby who's married to Naomi Watts?
Posted by: Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) || 10/19/2009 23:35 Comments || Top||


Bangladesh
4 die drinking toxic liquor
[Bangla Daily Star] Four people died and nine others fell sick after drinking toxic, homebrewed alcohol in Mahasthangarh area of Shibganj upazila early yesterday.

The deceased were identified as former member of Rai Nagar union parishad under the upazila Babu Miah, 60, bread vendor Azizar Rahman, 50, trader Madhu Miah, 45, and sweeper Lalu Prasad.

Uttam Prasad, Tota Miah, Abdul Jobbar, Anisar Rahman, Faruk Miah and Faruk Hossain were undergoing treatment at local hospital and clinics.

Officer-in-Charge of the police station ABM Zahideul Islam said they bought cheap alcohol from Shibganj Bazar area and drank it together.

He said there are some illegal liquor shops in Mahasthan area run by some local people. Raids against the drug peddlers would start soon, he said.

Fallen ill by taking the contaminated liquor, they were brought to Bogra Nursing Home and other local clinics where the attending doctors declared the four dead early in the morning, the OC said.

Body of Azizar Rahman was sent to the hospital morgue for autopsy.
Posted by: Fred || 10/19/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Got to be a lie, Muslims DO NOT drink alcohol(Snark)
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/19/2009 13:07 Comments || Top||

#2  No doubt that's why the homebrew contained methanol, Redneck Jim.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/19/2009 15:36 Comments || Top||

#3  Mmmm TW, Methanol is made from wood, it can't be "Home Distilled, so no methanol.
Ethanol CAN be homemade, it's fermented grain, and can be poisionous depending on where the grain came from, if they used "Seed Stock",(To be planted) the poisons used to keep Mildew, Mold and Fungus From killing the grain as it sprouts WILL kill you.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/19/2009 20:31 Comments || Top||

#4  It wasn't methanol cutting the corn squeezings that made people go blind and/or insane during prohibition?
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/19/2009 20:43 Comments || Top||


Britain
You've got a cat? OK, you can stay in Britain, officials tell Bolivian immigrant
It may have been one of the least plausible attempts to avoid deportation - but it worked.

A Bolivian immigrant has won his fight to remain in Britain because he and his girlfriend have a pet cat. Immigration judges ruled that sending the unnamed man home would breach his human rights by interfering with his family life.

The decision by the Asylum and Immigration Tribunal caused ' disappointment' at the Home Office and amazement among anti-immigration campaigners, who questioned why a cat could be considered relevant to an immigration case.

Court papers have kept secret the name of the animal
It's a cat. It's name is whatever the person who feeds it thinks it is.. in People, at least. It's name in Cat can be known only to cats.
as well as that of the immigrant as part of its privacy procedures.

The solicitor who represented the Bolivian, Barry O'Leary, said the cat was one detail among many in the case. He said: 'When giving the reasons for the success the judge did comment on the couple's cat.' Immigration judge, Judith Gleeson, joked in the official ruling that the cat 'need no longer fear having to adapt to Bolivian mice'.

The Home Office has asked for the decision to be reconsidered, saying the decision was wrong in law, and too much consideration was given to the cat.

Tory immigration spokesman Damian Green said: 'If pet ownership is going to be used as a reason for deciding immigration cases then the law really is an ass. 'This is clearly not a sensible use of human rights legislation which is designed to protect people's basic needs.'

It is not known why officials want to deport the man.
Posted by: tipper || 10/19/2009 00:40 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Animals = Humans. Makes sense when you realize that making a man leave his cat is like making him leave his son, at least according to the UK immigration authorities.
Posted by: gromky || 10/19/2009 1:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Well I would value a cat more than an illegal immigrant, so I guess this make some kind of sense.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 10/19/2009 1:45 Comments || Top||

#3  The cat 'need no longer fear having to adapt to Bolivian mice'.

Which are the size of a Chuhauhua.

Posted by: Galactic Coordinator Pholush5475 || 10/19/2009 7:01 Comments || Top||

#4  Move him to an East Asian ethnic neighborhood where 'cat' translates into 'the other white meat'.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/19/2009 8:20 Comments || Top||

#5  "Which are the size of a Chuhauhua"

In other words, a snack for my any self-respecting cat.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/19/2009 18:58 Comments || Top||

#6  Warning: Too much Monty Python may be behind the rationale.
Posted by: GirlThursday || 10/19/2009 23:29 Comments || Top||


Bailed-out UK bank to hand out £5m bonuses
[Iran Press TV Latest] The state-owned Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS), which was bailed-out with billions of pounds of taxpayer's money amid the global financial crisis, is likely to cause public anger by announcing a bid to hand out record bonuses.

The high-risk investment banking arm is the UK's biggest government-controlled bank, where even an average employees is likely to take home GBP 240,000 annually, the Sunday Times reported.

The banks, which had to be rescued from collapse by the Treasury last October with an initial injection of GBP 20 billion, is now planning to bestow bonuses of 1 to 5 million pounds each upon its top traders and senior staff.

The payouts, at 66% above those awarded last year, would set a record for the bank, topping its highest bonus record set during the 2007 financial boom.

The revelation, which could put the bank in the line of fire from UK Financial Investments, comes less than two weeks after Business Secretary Lord Mandelson warned the RBS that it risked alienating the public by offering "exorbitant" bonuses.

"To have a punt on numbers is without any foundation whatsoever...No decisions have been taken on bonuses." Bloomberg quoted Michael Strachan, an Edinburgh-based spokesman for the RBS, as saying.

UK Financial Investments oversees taxpayers' investments in banks and would have to approve the payments.

While many households in the UK still suffer in the aftermaths of the financial crisis, the huge profiteering of in-debt bankers has raised concern of an imminent public outcry.

The RBS is expected to lobby hard to be allowed to make the payments, delving deep into its GBP 4 billion payment and bonus pot.
Posted by: Fred || 10/19/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  While many households in the UK still suffer in the aftermaths of the financial crisis, the huge profiteering of in-debt bankers has raised concern of an imminent public outcry.

Dear Brits,

The RBS bail-out also came courtesy of the American taxpayer.

You're welcome.
Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 10/19/2009 20:23 Comments || Top||


Royal Mail hires 30,000 workers in attempt to beat strike.
Five thousand managers will also be used to keep the post moving during each strike and Royal Mail will open five extra sorting centres for parcels to minimise disruption in the run-up to Christmas, the busiest period of the year. Royal Mail said it expected most of the 20,000 postmen and women not in the union to work through the strike.

The firm usually recruits around 15,000 temporary workers to cope in the pre-Christmas period but is now planning to hire double that number - and earlier than usual.

A spokesman said the process was "well under way" and the company had received job applications from about 85,000 people.

He said: "We have been absolutely inundated. These are difficult times and there are a lot of people out there who want to work."

But, in an increasingly bitter dispute, the Communication Workers Union said support for the action was "rock-solid" among its 120,000 members and it was confident that services would be "severely disrupted" and would increase the backlog of mail to "well over 60 million items" by the weekend.

Strikes have already been announced for Thursday and Friday and union leaders meet on Monday when they will announce more stoppages aimed at crippling services in the weeks leading up to Christmas, starting with a three-day rolling strike next week.

Posted by: Fred || 10/19/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Chicago is going the other way. Daily is letting go non union workers for 24 days to cut costs. I guess he has to protect his unions. I'll bet it will not be enough. He didn't want to raise taxes. OOHNooo did I do that!. Just another pot hole.
Posted by: Dale || 10/19/2009 14:15 Comments || Top||


Europe
Catholic Church slams Italys bid to teach Islam
[Al Arabiya Latest] The head of the Italian Catholic Church in an interview Sunday criticized a government proposal to offer courses on Islam in schools as a way of steering young Muslims away from "fundamentalist teachings."

"The hour of Catholic religion (teaching) is justified by the fact that it forms part of our history and our culture," Cardinal Angelo Bagnasco told Corriere della Serra newspaper.

"Knowledge of Catholic religious facts is indispensable to the understanding of our culture. It does not seem to me that the planned hour of religion (to teach Islam) corresponds to that reasonable and recognized motivation."

Deputy Economic Development Minister Adolfo Urso has proposed an hour of teaching on Islam in public and private schools as a possible alternative to Catholic courses. He has said the move would be aimed at keeping young Muslim students away from fundamentalist Islamic schools.
Why not keep the fundamentalist Islamic schools away from the students?
The center-left opposition has welcomed the proposal, as has the speaker of Italy's lower house, Gianfranco Fini.

But an anti-immigrant party allied to Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, the Northern League, has called it a "provocation."

Foreigners made up 4.2 percent of students in Italian schools at the end of 2007, with some 37 percent of them Muslim, according to figures from the education ministry.
Posted by: Fred || 10/19/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Compare wid PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM > THE SUBCONTINENT MUSLIM IS MORE INFLUENCED BY HINDUISM THAN ISLAM.

* BHARAT RAKSHAK > FLOW OF WESTERN TERRORISM RECRUITS INCREASING.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/19/2009 20:56 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
NASA scientist caught 'spying' for Israel
AN American scientist who once worked for the Pentagon and the US space agency NASA has been arrested and charged with attempted spying for Israel, the US Department of Justice said.

Stewart David Nozette, 52, is charged with "attempted espionage for knowingly and willfully attempting to communicate, deliver, and transmit classified information relating to the national defense of the United States to an individual that Nozette believed to be an Israeli intelligence officer,'' the Department of Justice said.
Posted by: Oztralian || 10/19/2009 18:08 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Meanwhile, the Chinese merely have to phone the White House.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/19/2009 20:54 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Hampton University's first white Homecoming Queen suffers ‘racism’
Posted by: tipper || 10/19/2009 05:49 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Nonsense. Only whites can be racist.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 10/19/2009 6:46 Comments || Top||

#2  ...Hampton is an outstanding school, but it - like the other traditionally black colleges - is VERY jealous of its historical background. This young lady should have known EXACTLY what she was getting into.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/19/2009 7:17 Comments || Top||

#3  Between looking at her picture and reading her comments I am surprised she won even WITHOUT considering her pigmentation.
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/19/2009 8:24 Comments || Top||

#4  I thought we were all supposed to come together and celebrate the happy fact that a Hampton University student won the Homecoming Queen! Hurray for everything!

Oh, wait, it's different when we're not fucking up someone else's culture.
Posted by: gromky || 10/19/2009 12:44 Comments || Top||

#5  Fuck all racist pricks. On all sides.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/19/2009 15:48 Comments || Top||

#6  She sounds like an idiot. But then, so does her 'court'.
Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 10/19/2009 21:13 Comments || Top||

#7  Race aside, I think she looks like a guy.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 10/19/2009 22:27 Comments || Top||

#8  Wipe off 2/3rds of the eye liner and mascara and she'd look quite as pretty as she ought to. Unfortunately, the look is very fashionable at the moment.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/19/2009 23:25 Comments || Top||



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Two weeks of WOT
Mon 2009-10-19
  South Waziristan clashes kill 60 militants
Sun 2009-10-18
  Battle for South Waziristan begins
Sat 2009-10-17
  Pakistan imposes indefinite curfew in S. Waziristan
Fri 2009-10-16
  Turkish police detain 50 Qaeda suspects
Thu 2009-10-15
  Pakistani Police Attacked in Two Cities; 15 Killed
Wed 2009-10-14
  Italy: Attempted terror attack against army barracks injures soldier
Tue 2009-10-13
  Charges against Hafiz Saeed dismissed by Lahore High Court
Mon 2009-10-12
  Pakistain says 41 killed in market bombing
Sun 2009-10-11
  Pak army frees 30 at army HQ, ending siege
Sat 2009-10-10
  'Al-Qaeda-linked' Cern worker held
Fri 2009-10-09
  B.O. gets Nobel Peace Prize, just like Arafat
Thu 2009-10-08
  Car bomb at India's Kabul embassy
Wed 2009-10-07
  Terrorist cell found in Hamburg. Surprise.
Tue 2009-10-06
  Zazi had senior al-Qaida contact
Mon 2009-10-05
  Bomb Hits UN Office in Pakistan Capital; 4 Killed


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