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Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I loved Clark but he dumped me for Lombard.



Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 12/14/2008 3:06 Comments || Top||

#2  ................ if you don't like it, you can ....

http://patdollard.com/young-americans

"Credit Sequence", volume up, cover the kids ears. Just in case anybody's lost sight of how we've been moving forward and who's taken us there.
Posted by: Last Breath Farm Resident || 12/14/2008 3:42 Comments || Top||

#3 
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 12/14/2008 5:01 Comments || Top||

#4  Anita died last September, age 98. She was in the first film musical (with Bessie Love, another favorite of mine).
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2008 8:31 Comments || Top||

#5  Baby, you can drive my car ...
Posted by: Adriane || 12/14/2008 13:40 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan
New Nato supply route to Afghanistan to open in 8 weeks
NATO plans to open a new supply route to Afghanistan through Russia and Central Asia in the next eight weeks following a spate of attacks on its main lifeline through Pakistan this year, NATO and Russian sources told The Times on Saturday.
"It'll be weeks rather than months," said one NATO official. "Two months max."
"It'll be weeks rather than months," said one NATO official. "Two months max."

Railway route: Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, the former Soviet Central Asian states that lie between Russia and Afghanistan, have agreed in principle to the railway route and are working out the small print with NATO, the sources said.

The 'Northern Corridor' is expected to be discussed at an informal meeting next week between Russia's Ambassador to NATO Dmitri Rogozin and NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer, the report said.

The breakthrough reflects NATO and US commanders' growing concern about the attacks on their main supply line, which runs from the Pakistani port of Karachi via the Khyber Pass to Kabul and brings in 70 percent of their supplies. The rest is either driven from Karachi via the border town of Chaman to southern Afghanistan, or flown in at enormous expense in transport planes.

"We're all increasingly concerned," US Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Mike Mullen told reporters on Wednesday. "But in that concern, we've worked pretty hard to develop options."
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  "Two months max." is probably a reference to the transit time.
Posted by: phil_b || 12/14/2008 0:10 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm BAAAACK!! Bodyguard reporting here from Baghram, Afghanistan. We are at the end of our tour here, packing stuff out back to the lower 48 (The reason I'm at BAF with a computer). It's been a great Rotation here, got a lot of positive things accomplished for the GWOT and the Nation of Afghanistan. As per this Pak crap, it's about time we worked a new route. I hope that the PAK headshed can get this situation under control, as this is giving them a serious international black eye with the media. All is well, will report as needed. Fred, I still owe you that piece of marble from OIF 1, is there anything else that might interest you from over here? Towards the Greater Good, I remain

Yr. Af. Sr,

Bodyguard
Posted by: Bodyguard || 12/14/2008 2:37 Comments || Top||

#3  Good to hear from ya, Bodyguard! Thanks for the update & good news!
Posted by: Raj || 12/14/2008 7:58 Comments || Top||

#4  Stay safe, buddy.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2008 8:32 Comments || Top||

#5  Our thanks to you and your fellows, Bodyguard. Please let them know that. I look forward to hearing your thoughts about how things are going over there, once you've settled in at home.

Welcome home, in advance. :-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2008 8:46 Comments || Top||

#6  Welcome home indeed, BG. Look forward to hearing your stories once you're able to tell them.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/14/2008 10:52 Comments || Top||

#7  It seems that the Russians can step on this air supply any time they want. What are they getting in exchange?
Posted by: gromky || 12/14/2008 11:05 Comments || Top||

#8  Yep, gromky, this new logistics route doesn't give me very many warm fuzzies. Now we've added to our dependence on the Paki mess with dependence on the good faith of Putin. Though I'm not sure just how insecure the Paki main route is, adding this northern route will do little to reduce strategic risk. Or so it seems. Of course, given geographic realities, we realists won't whine and point fingers, as alternatives are not visible. Realists are funny that way.
Posted by: Verlaine || 12/14/2008 12:26 Comments || Top||

#9  Russia has interest in Afghanistan succeding. Were we to draw out, they again would be stuck with a festering wound right on their soft underbelly.

I find the NATO accomidations a new step in relations and refreshing.

This land locked conflict could do us great harm if we had to rely on pakistan alone.

Al-Q has already made it it's number 1 priority to destroy the movement of Logistics through Pakistan.
Posted by: newc || 12/14/2008 14:32 Comments || Top||

#10  welcome home BG, stay safe
Posted by: Frank G || 12/14/2008 14:52 Comments || Top||

#11  Welcome back, BG! My thanks for your service and a job well done!
Posted by: Ptah || 12/14/2008 15:16 Comments || Top||

#12  GuardDawg! Get on back we youz belong!
Posted by: .5MT || 12/14/2008 17:39 Comments || Top||


Africa Subsaharan
Aliens with al Qaeda links nabbed
NAMIBIA and Botswana have arrested and deported several members of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, which has links with the al Qaeda movement, in a highly sensitive and secret operation. The Namibian is in possession of a highly confidential document forwarded to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs by the country's High Commissioner to Botswana, Hadino Hishongwa, in which he revealed information about alleged infiltration of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood into the region.

The extent of the infiltration could not be verified with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs or with High Commissioner Hishongwa, as neither replied to a list of questions submitted two weeks ago.

An official in Foreign Affairs said a file with the questions had been forwarded to acting Permanent Secretary Hinyangerwa Asheeke, who has yet to reply. Hishongwa wrote to the Ministry towards the end of September after he was briefed by a representative of the Botswana Intelligence Organisation (BIO), a part of the Botswana Police Service, about infiltration by mainly Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood elements into the southern African region, including Namibia.

It is believed that the men carried visas stating that they are directors of non-existent companies and pretended to make a living from selling paintings, carpets and mirrors on the streets or door-to-door. They mainly stayed in Windhoek, Rundu, Oshakati and Gobabis. "However, this is largely a cover-up as they have virtually unlimited access to money via Visa cards which they use, inter alia to buy vehicles. These people are also said to be proficient in forging credit cards, ID cards and cellphone credit," Hishongwa warned.

His alert was also forwarded to the Office of the President, Prime Minister, Ministry of Home Affairs and the Ministry of Defence. He said the Namibian mission in Botswana was strongly advised to be on high alert before issuing visas to Egyptians and other nationals from North Africa and the Middle East. It is believed that Botswana has already detained over 25 Egyptians as illegal immigrants in Gaborone after a tip-off from their South African counterparts. About 20 cars with Botswana and SA registration numbers were parked at one of the premises where the suspects were arrested.

For their part, South Africa's Scorpion special investigative unit have arrested over 50 illegal Egyptian immigrants after they entered the country by ship from Pakistan and bribed corrupt police and customs officials. "Although the SA authorities subsequently withdrew their visas, some had already scattered to Botswana, Namibia, Angola, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Lesotho ad Swaziland," Hishongwa wrote.

It is believed that while being interrogated, the majority of the suspects confirmed their allegiance to the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, which has links to al Qaeda. According to Hishongwa's informant in the Botswana Intelligence Service, eight of those who made it out of South Africa had been arrested in Namibia by the end of September. At that stage there were already around 70 members of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood in Namibia. Some of those in detention in Botswana have also provided details of their relatives in Namibia to that country's intelligence.

The Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt's largest opposition group, is formally banned but fielded independent candidates in 2005 elections, winning a fifth of the seats in parliament. In the 2005 parliamentary elections, the Brotherhood's candidates, who can only stand as independents, won 88 seats (20 per cent of the total) to form the largest opposition bloc, despite many violations of the electoral process, including the arrest of hundreds of Brotherhood members.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda

#1  POTUS didn't have the Joint Chiefs create AfriCom on a whim.
Posted by: Last Breath Farm Resident || 12/14/2008 3:52 Comments || Top||

#2  For a moment I thought.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/14/2008 4:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Hello I would like to invite you to visit our website : http://www.ikhwanweb.com/

IKhwanweb is the Muslim Brotherhood"s only official English web site. The Main office is located in London, although Ikhwanweb has correspondents in most countries. Our staff is exclusively made of volunteers and stretched over the five continents.
The Muslim Brotherhood opinions and views can be found under the sections of MB statements and MB opinions, in addition to the Editorial Message.
Items posted under "other views" are usually different from these of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Ikhwanweb does not censor any articles or comments but has the right only to remove any inappropriate words that defy public taste
Ikhwanweb is not a news website, although we report news that matter to the Muslim Brotherhood"s cause. Our main misson is to present the Muslim Brotherhood vision right from the source and rebut misonceptions about the movement in western societies. We value debate on the issues and we welcome constructive criticism.

to help inform you about your subject matter,questions

If you have any addition questions you can email us at :
Ikhwanweb2010@gmail.com
Posted by: Omar || 12/14/2008 19:01 Comments || Top||

#4  No thanks, but HERE is a website for you Omar. Now hit the road!
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/14/2008 19:13 Comments || Top||

#5  I have surprisingly few questions for you, Omar, but a few comments: your backwards 7th century....

bahhhh never mind. Once droppings are deposited, out=r Islamo-trolls never bother to collect their response. F*ck Omar. His Momma's a whore, and his offspring show non-human DNA.
Posted by: Frank G || 12/14/2008 19:55 Comments || Top||

#6  ? out=r should be "our"
Posted by: Frank G || 12/14/2008 19:56 Comments || Top||

#7  In fairness, the Muslim Brotherhood's not al-Qaeda. It is Hamas, though.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2008 20:33 Comments || Top||

#8  It's not? I thought they were, more or less?
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 12/14/2008 20:40 Comments || Top||

#9  Acknowledged. I stand by my commnet(s). By the way - IIRC it's time for the RB tipjar jingle. I hit it today. Merry Christmas, Fred and the Mrs.!
Posted by: Frank G || 12/14/2008 20:41 Comments || Top||

#10  or comments, whatever :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 12/14/2008 20:42 Comments || Top||

#11  Thanks for the timely reminder, #9 Frank.

Tomorrow's payday - I'll add Fred to my "pay bills" list.

That's the MOST important check I'll write. :-D
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 12/14/2008 21:24 Comments || Top||

#12  "In fairness, the Muslim Brotherhood's not al-Qaeda. It is Hamas, though."

A distinction without a difference, Fred.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 12/14/2008 21:39 Comments || Top||

#13  "Aliens" = ET? Sigourney = Ripley?

Gut Nuthin - D *** NG IT, THATS TWICE TODAY, + THIS AM!
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/14/2008 21:42 Comments || Top||

#14  The Muslim Brotherhood is the spiritual and philosophical father of Al Qaeda. Hamas is merely a budded clone.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2008 22:16 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Yemen: Jew potted for being Jewish
(AKI) - A gunman shot and killed a Yemeni Jew in the Raydah district in northern Yemen, security sources said on Friday. Thirty-nine year-old Mousa Yaish al-Nahari, a father of eight, was reportedly shot for no reason, said Yahya Mousa, a rabbi for Yemeni Jews in the capital Sanaa.

The gunman approached al-Nahari and told him "Jew, accept Islam's message" and then shot him five times.
Arab media said the gunman was identified as Abdul-Aziz Yahya al-Abdi, a former air force pilot. He was arrested in Raydah in the Amran governorate.

Police are still investigating the motive of the crime, but witnesses say the gunman approached al-Nahari and told him "Jew, accept Islam's message" and then shot him five times with an AK-47 assault rifle.

Al-Abdi is alleged to have murdered his wife two years ago but was not jailed because he agreed to pay compensation to the wife's family, said Pan-Arab daily al-Sharq al-Awsat.

Ahmed al-Sarihi, a security official, told the daily that al-Abdi was a religious extremist that suffered from mental problems and that during interrogation he admitted killing al-Nahari and telling police that "these Jews must convert to Islam."

Although Yemen is overwhelmingly Muslim, a small community of 300-400 Jews still live there. Since 1949 about 50,000 members of the once-thriving Yemeni Jewish community are reported to have been secretly airlifted to Israel.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'll venture a guess, it's not legal for Jewish folks to own firearms in Yemen.
Posted by: Last Breath Farm Resident || 12/14/2008 4:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Nor, likely enough, to attempt to defend themselves when attacked by a Muslim.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2008 7:52 Comments || Top||

#3  I thought that infidels were supposed to be given a chance to accept Islam before being killed.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 12/14/2008 12:23 Comments || Top||

#4  They've had their entire lives, Rambler, and yet they daily continue to reject The Truth. What's a poor Muslim to do when confronted by such perfidy?
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2008 15:10 Comments || Top||

#5  "Jew, accept Islam's message"

"BLAM! BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM!"

"There, Jew, you've now accepted Islam's message."

You know, if even a Gentile like me can see that Islam's message for Jews is the same as Adolf Hitler's, you have to wonder why people like Ehud Olmert and Ms. Lipni can't. Jewish people have a reputation for being highly intelligent but the recent government in Israel is doing some serious damage to that rep.
Posted by: Jolutch Mussolini7800 || 12/14/2008 17:54 Comments || Top||

#6  The triumph of hope over experience, Jolutch Mussolini7800, coupled with the sad lack of guaranteed functional intelligence merely because of Jewish DNA. Or else because they are not ready to face the choices that must be made if negotiation is no longer an option. We mustn't forget that soon-to-be-former Prime Minister Olmert was never intended to have decision-making responsibilities, but rather to obtain the affections of certain elements of Ariel Sharon's the new Kadimah party. Unfortunately, God or biology chose to intervene at exactly the wrong point in history, proving once again that the Peter Principle holds true. I pray that in their February elections Israel chooses wisely.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2008 23:31 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
FBI takes DNA samples of Mumbai attackers
The FBI and other western investigating agencies have taken DNA samples of all the nine Lashkar-e-Toiba militants killed in the Mumbai attacks to ascertain if they had any Afghan or other terror links as the probe found that the nature of explosive devices was quite similar to those used in Afghanistan.

Sources associated with the investigation into the November 26 terror strikes said the DNA samples had been preserved by Indian as well as western investigators who were ascertaining whether it matched with anyone in their data bank of terrorists or if they were related to militants killed during operations in Afghanistan.

The western investigators have also carried out a detailed examination of the explosive devices used in the attacks that left over 180 people dead and have found some similarities with those used by terrorists in Afghanistan, the sources said.

Lashkar-e-Toiba has sent some of its cadres to fight along with Taliban in southern Afghanistan. The terror outfit had earlier set up a training camp in Khost area of the war-ravaged country.

The western forensic expertise has come in handy for the Mumbai police and the Indian security agencies in carrying out investigations abroad and unveiling facts that could have otherwise taken much longer.

The FBI team accompanied by investigators from the UK's Scotland Yard were camping in Mumbai for a fortnight looking into clues including the Internet telephony signatures intercepted by the Indian intelligence agencies when terrorists were receiving calls from their Lashkar masters across the border.
Posted by: john frum || 12/14/2008 17:20 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: Lashkar e-Taiba

#1  Building a data base, checking it twice,
Gonna find out who's naughty or nice,
Uncle Sam is coming to town.

Can DNA analysis give the probability that one person is related to another?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 12/14/2008 18:22 Comments || Top||

#2  NS, Yes...Female line even in degraded samples, both in fresh.
Posted by: tipover || 12/14/2008 18:47 Comments || Top||


JuD transfers money out of most bank accounts
The Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD), which was labelled a terrorist organization by the UN Security Council for its links to the Mumbai carnage, has been able to transfer money out of most of its public bank accounts, negating the impact of the crackdown by Pakistan, a media report said on Sunday.

The dismantling of the Islamic charity linked to the Mumbai terror attacks is being seriously hampered by Pakistan's difficulties in tracking and seizing millions of dollars the group is believed to have stashed in bank accounts in Pakistan and abroad, the Wall Street Journal said on Sunday.
Difficulty? Or collaboration?
The public lead-up to the UN action gave the group ample time to transfer money out of most of its public bank accounts, an unidentified Pakistani finance ministry official was quoted by the US Journal as saying.

The official estimated that the group has moved hundreds of thousands of dollars, "maybe millions" in recent days. "If we don't take away money, it can reopen any time," the official told the paper. "The money in Pakistan is hidden now. We won't find it."

Jamaat officials, who last week invited reporters to tour their complex outside Lahore and see some of their social-service programmes in action, have been unavailable to comment since Thursday's clampdown; many were either detained or being sought by Pakistani authorities, the Journal said.

As of Friday afternoon, the Journal said, at least one Jamaat-ud-Dawa account remained open for supporters to deposit donations, "at least for the moment." People who wished could still deposit money at a Lahore branch of Bank Alfalah Ltd., a small lender part-owned by investors in Abu Dhabi, said the bank's operations officer, who, the paper said, would give his name only as Ali.

The Pakistani bank official said neither Jamaat nor the government had asked him to shut the account, which was in the name of Markaz Jamat-ud-Dawa. Markaz means the "headquarters of" in Urdu.

Other bank officials, including at its main office in Karachi, didn't respond to requests to comment, the Journal said.

Pakistan's central bank ordered all of Jamaat's assets frozen and accounts closed on Thursday, and Pakistani officials said they believed banks were complying with the order, but wouldn't elaborate or comment directly on the Alfalah account, it added. The account has been open since at least 2005, when fliers urged people to give money to it during the Muslim holiday of Eid-al-Adha.

In Pakistan, Europe and the US, Jamaat has asked donors since 2005 to deposit funds at Bank Alfalah in the name of a separate charity, Idara Khidmat-e-Khalq or IKK, which the US State Department identified in 2006 as an alias for Jamaat, the Journal quoted counter-terrorism officials.
I'll bet they have another twenty front charities all designed to buy ammunition for the widows of Kashmir ...
US supporters of the Jamaat have been urged to wire dollars to IKK through the Bank of New York, according to a 2006 snapshot of the Web page captured by terrorism analyst Evan Kohlmann, an expert on Lashkar who frequently testifies in criminal cases involving the group, the paper said.

A Bank of New York spokesman said no donations were ever transmitted through the account. On the same page, donations in euros were solicited in Europe through a bank in Munich, the US daily said.

In an interview with the Wall Street Journal, Rehman Malik, Pakistan's interior minister, said investigations into Jamaat's assets and funding are now under way. He said authorities are moving quickly to shut down offices and militant training camps, but added: "The government is not tracking everyone's accounts, frankly speaking."
Posted by: john frum || 12/14/2008 15:27 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Lashkar e-Taiba

#1  No surprise. After seeing the comment by the Indian military that they can use Artillery to hit the camps in Kashmir without crossing the border I have wondered if Pakistan didn't close the LeT camps so the perps could be moved out of range.
Posted by: tipover || 12/14/2008 18:43 Comments || Top||


Back from the brink
After sabre-rattling, India sidesteps Pak army trap to start a war

The dying year could have ended in a nuclear war. Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari picked up his phone and thought he heard Indian External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee threatening him, as loan recovery agents do. A scared Zardari alerted Pakistan's air defence, and told US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice what he had done.

Had Zardari alerted his strategic nuclear command (Pakistan believes in first use), Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, too, would have. One miscalculation could have led to one of them pressing the launch button. Anyway, the comic episode demonstrated to the world how fragile Pakistan's politico-military higher command is, and how immature its leaders are. They did not even seem to know that foreign ministers normally call up their counterparts. Even if Mukherjee wanted to speak to Zardari, he would have first informed the diplomatic missions and checked if the president was willing to take his call. Naturally, Mukherjee was more amused than livid when he was told of the episode.

While niceties of diplomacy were lost on Pakistani leaders, India deliberately shed nuances of diplomacy. Minister of State for External Affairs E. Ahmed read the charge-sheet in plain English at the United Nations Security Council: "A group of 10 terrorists from the global terrorist organisation Lashkar-e-Toiba reached Mumbai in the evening of November 26, 2008. The group divided themselves into four smaller groups and proceeded to pre-selected targets, which included a café and two major hotels…. The attack was conducted like a commando operation indicating that the perpetrators had received professional training.... Nine terrorists were killed by our security forces while one of them was apprehended. His interrogation has revealed that they were trained in Pakistan and were launched from a ship from Karachi." No statement could have been more straight, putting the blame squarely on Pakistan.

Ahmed then rattled the sabre: "India will act to safeguard and protect its people from such heinous attacks.... The Charter of the United Nations and provisions of international law, including the right of self-defence, give us the framework to fulfil these responsibilities."

By now Washington put pressure on Islamabad to act against terror groups and rogue ISI elements, while Moscow advised Delhi to exercise caution. "Do not yield to provocation, is our advice," said Russian Ambassador Vyacheslav Trubnikov. Islamabad saw an opportunity in heeding Washington's advice. By arresting Lashkar and Jaish-e-Mohammad commanders, it thought it could effectively deflect attention from its army and ISI who had given the terrorists "professional training" as Ahmed had alleged. Delhi saw through the game and said it was "not satisfied".

As Parliament debated the issue, indications from South Block were that India might move to cancel the dialogue process, while holding out the threat of surgical strikes on terror camps. In fact, a quick assessment made in the war room in South Block revealed that most targets were within India's artillery (45km) or Prithvi (250km) range. "We can inflict punishment without crossing the border or LoC," said an Army officer.

All the same, India's attempt was not to fall into the trap set by the ISI and the Pak army, who wanted to enter into some sort of a truce with the insurgents on the Afghan border and move east. Interestingly, an all-party meeting held in Islamabad after the Indian sabre-rattling took note of a report that quoted an army official that the problems between Pakistan and the Taliban were based on "miscommunication and misunderstanding" and that Taliban leaders like Baitullah Mahsud and Jalaluddin Haqqani were great Pakistani patriots who would fight alongside the army against India.

The politico-strategic logic was simple: If the Taliban were Pakistan's boy-scouts, why kill them at the instance of the Americans who have a problem with them in Afghanistan? Pakistan could leave that war to the US, and move 80,000 soldiers from the Afghan border to the east to confront India.

The Pak army had other problems, too, in the west. Nearly 2,000 soldiers had died in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas war in which 80,000 heavily armed troops are facing 3.5 million people. More alarmingly, since the locals are mostly Pushtuns, there is grumbling among the Pushtun elements within the army itself. The army brass had to post out several battalion commanders (colonels) for having openly spoken out in favour of the Pushtun cause. Nearly one-fourth of the army consists of Pushtuns, with Pushtun officers consisting of 15 to 22 per cent in most units.

Indian agencies are now convinced that the ISI had timed the attack also to influence the Obama team's Afghanistan-Pakistan policy, which is yet to be formulated. "The US does not know how to exit from Afghanistan," said an intelligence analyst in Delhi. "Islamabad is trying to tell Washington that both Afghanistan and Pakistan's western frontiers can be managed if a moderate, Pakistan-friendly Taliban is allowed to take control of Afghanistan. That would leave the US free to wage its global war on al Qaeda."

Many in the Obama team are willing to have a negotiated settlement with the Taliban elements. Recently, The Washington Post reported, "Obama is open to supporting discussions between the Afghan government and 'reconcilable' elements of the Taliban, a nascent effort of which the state department [under George Bush] has been fairly dismissive." The Zardari establishment in Islamabad has reportedly been telling the Obama team that a substantial portion of the Taliban is "more opportunistic than ideologically committed". Apparently, sensing the mood of the new administration, General David McKiernan, commander of NATO and US troops in Afghanistan, recently said that the idea of "reconciliation, I think, is appropriate, and we'll be there to provide support within our mandate."

If Obama is willing to do business with a Pakistan-controlled, 'moderate' Taliban, there is no need for the Pakistani army to be fighting a human-costly war on its western border. The danger for India in this approach is that, Islamabad, while seeking what is called a 'regional approach' to the Afghanistan issue would also like to drag the Kashmir issue into it. Already, pro-Pakistan think tanks in the United States believe that a world-innocent Obama could be brought around to this line of thinking, which even envisages formation of a 'control group' to address not only the Pakistan-Afghanistan problems but also Kashmir. Already, Islamabad and its backers in Beijing have raised the issue of Kashmir in the context of the Mumbai attacks.
For India, the only way to keep Kashmir a bilateral issue is to continue talking. After all, that is what politicians, taking in a lot of vitriol of late, are good at.
Posted by: john frum || 12/14/2008 14:15 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In fact, a quick assessment made in the war room in South Block revealed that most targets were within India's artillery (45km) or Prithvi (250km) range. "We can inflict punishment without crossing the border or LoC," said an Army officer.
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Terrorists in Pakistan planning over 20 attacks on Britain
The Prime Minister named Pakistan as a haven for terrorists planning attacks in Britain, revealing that around three quarters of the most advanced plots monitored by MI5 are have Pakistani links.

Officials say that the Security Service is aware of around 30 serious plots at any given moment, suggesting that at least 21 of them are tied to Pakistani groups.

On a visit to Islamabad, the Prime Minister delived a blunt demand to President Ali Asif Zardari to improve his goverment's work to prevent al-Qaeda and other groups operating in the lawless area that borders Afghanistan. "The time has come for action not words," Mr Brown told Mr Zardari.
Or else what, Gordo?
At a press conference, Mr Brown revealed that he had told Mr Zardari that "three quarters of the most serious plots investigated by the British authorities have links to al-Qaeda in Pakistan".

Many known terrorists including Mohammed Siddique Khan, ringleader of the 7/7 bombings, are known to have trained at al-Qaeda inspired camps in the Pakistani border areas. In a private meeting Mr Brown told Mr Zardari he must do more to close those camps.

Mr Brown told reporters: "We must break the chain of terrorism that links the mountains of Afghanistan to the streets of Britain."

Mr Brown also announced increased British support for Pakistani counter-terrorism work, including greater support for Pakistani police work on detecting and defusing bombs. The UK will also fund more scanning equipment at Pakistani airports.
So that the ISI can figure out how they work and learn to defeat them ...
British police will also work with their Pakistani counterparts providing help with forensic science and contingency planning for major terrorist incidents. There will also be a ÂŁ6 million British fund to help Pakistan counter the radicalization of young Muslims.
ÂŁ6 million into someone's pocket without any accountability ...
The Prime Minister said his aim was to form "the most comprehensive anti-terror programme Britain has with any country".

Mr Brown said: "I want to help Pakistan root out terrorism. It is right that we help Pakistan root out terrorism."

He added: "People know that what can happen in the mountains of Afghanistan and Pakistan can affect directly what happens on the streets of our towns. I want to remove the chain of terror."

Mr Brown also demanded Pakistan do more to stop miliants moving over the border into Afghanistan to attack British troops. He said: "We have talked about how we can do more to ensure there is more security at the border. It is in all our interests to root out the problem where there are people who practice terror who are moving with ease."
This article starring:
Mohammed Siddique Khan
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#1  Once Gordo has saved the world, what else will be left for Obama to do?
Posted by: Thrugpex Gromulak || 12/14/2008 19:57 Comments || Top||


Pak Govt downplays Indian jetsÂ’ airspace breach
ISLAMABAD: The government has downplayed the Indian violations of its airspace, suggesting on Sunday that they were ‘inadvertent’ and ‘technical’. Pakistani officials said Indian aircraft entered two to four kilometres inside Azad Kashmir and over Lahore on Saturday. Pakistani jets chased the Indian aircraft back over the border, authorities here said. Both sides are usually careful to avoid such territorial violations, and it was unclear how two separate but apparently accidental incursions could occur on the same day.

President Asif Ali Zardari tried to dismiss the incidents, calling them ‘technical incursions’ that have been blown out of proportion. ‘Incursions do happen,’ he told a news conference with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, saying the planes were flying at about 40,000 feet (12,000 meters) when they executed a turn that ‘slightly entered Pakistan soil.’ India denied its aircraft crossed into Pakistani airspace.

‘There has not been any airspace violation by the Indian air force as has been alleged,’ Indian air force spokesman Mahesh Upasani said Sunday. Pakistani officials seemed keen Sunday to avoid enflaming tensions. Air Force spokesman Humayun Viqar told Geo TV it may have been a ‘technical violation’ because fighter jets fly at high altitudes and may have crossed the limits by mistake.
He said an unspecified number of Indian aircraft crossed over at 11:30 a.m. and 1:05 p.m. Saturday.

‘We are ready to deal with any misadventure, we are monitoring the situation, we are on alert,’ Viqar said. Pakistan Information Minister Sherry Rehman said in a statement that the Indian Air Force had told Pakistan the incursion was ‘inadvertent.’ ‘There is no need for undue alarm,’ she said.
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#1  Reconnaissance run.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/14/2008 14:01 Comments || Top||

#2  India used to operate the Mig 25R.

Recce Incursion

Air Power International

By Peter Steinemann

Last May (1997), an Indian Force (IAF) Mikoyan MiG-25RB Foxbat-B reconnaissance aircraft created a furore when the pilot flew faster than Mach 2 over Pakistani territory following a reconnaissance mission into Pakistan airspace. The Foxbat broke the sound barrier while flying at an altitude of around 65,000 feet, otherwise the mission would have remained covert, at least to the general public. The Pakistan Government considered the breaking of the sound barrier as deliberate: to make the point that the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has no aircraft in its inventory which can come close to the cruising height of the MiG-25 (up to 74,000 feet).

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#3  Ah, Foxbats! That would explain the boom mentioned earlier.
Posted by: SteveS || 12/14/2008 23:24 Comments || Top||


Mumbai gunman tells of thwarted plans for rooftop stand-off
THE sole gunman captured in last month's Mumbai attacks originally intended to seize hostages and outline demands in a series of dramatic calls to the media, his confession statement to police says. Mohammed Ajmal Amir said he and his partner, who massacred dozens of people in the city's main train station, had planned a rooftop stand-off, but abandoned the plans because they could not find a suitable building, says the confession obtained by the Associated Press at the weekend.

Islamabad has refused to acknowledge Amir's nationality, complaining that India has yet to furnish any evidence.

Amir's seven-page confession, given to police over repeated interrogations, offers chilling new details of the three-day rampage through India's commercial centre that left 164 people plus nine of the 10 gunmen dead. He said the assault, which started on November 26, was initially set for September 27, though he does not explain why it was delayed.

After reaching Mumbai, Amir and his partner, Ismail Khan, the group's ringleader, headed to the train station. "Ismail and myself went to the common toilet, took out the weapons from our sacks, loaded them, came out of the toilet and started firing indiscriminately towards the passengers," Amir told police.

As a police officer opened fire, the two militants retaliated with grenades before entering another part of the station and shooting more commuters.

The men then searched for a building with a rooftop where they had been told to hold hostages and call a contact named Chacha, whom Amir identified as Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, the suspected mastermind behind the attacks who has been detained by Pakistani authorities

Chacha, which means "uncle" in Hindi, would supply phone numbers for media outlets and specify what demands the two should make.

Taking heavy fire from police, the two had trouble finding a "suitable building" and stormed a hospital they mistook for an apartment building. There, they searched for hostages and traded more gunfire with security forces. When they left, a police van pulled up and the two tried to take shelter behind a bush during the shoot-out. Amir was hit in the hand as Khan returned fire. Police have confirmed the van was carrying top police officials, including the head of the anti-terror squad who was killed.

In the confession, Amir, 21, describes his conversion from an aspiring street criminal to a loyal soldier for Lashkar-e-Taiba, the terrorist group banned by Pakistan in 2002 and blamed by India for the attacks. He came to the organisation last year while looking to buy guns to commit robberies. Amir went on to receive training in weapons handling and other skills, attending at least six Lashkar camps. He said Lakhvi, Lashkar's operations chief, recruited him for the Mumbai attack.
This article starring:
Mohammed Ajmal Amir
Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi,
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#1  Anyone got a link to the actual confession?
Posted by: gromky || 12/14/2008 12:32 Comments || Top||

#2  Statement of accused Mohd Ajmal Amir Qasab; Age 21 yrs. Occupation: Labour, R/O - Faridkot, Tehsil -Dipalpur, Dist -Ukada, State -Suba Punjab, Pakistan

I am as above and reside at the above given address since my birth. I have studied up to 4th standard from Government Primary School.

After leaving school in 2000, I went to Lahore. My brother Afzal stays at galli No. 54, R.No. 12, Mohalla Tohit Abad, near Yadgar Minar, Lahore. I did labour jobs at different places till 2005. During that period I used to visit my native place. In the year 2005, I had a quarrel with my father. Therefore, I left my house and went to Ali Hajveri Darbar at Lahore.

At the said place, the boys who had run away from their houses are kept. From there, the boys are sent to different places for employment. One day when I was there, a person by name Shafiq came there and took me with him. He was in the catering business. He was from Zhelam. I started working with him on daily wages. I was given Rs 120 per day. After some days my salary was increased up to Rs 200 per day. I worked with him till 2007.

While I was working with Shafiq, I came in contact with one Muzaffar Lal Khan, aged 22 years, r/o Village -Romiya, Tehsil & Dist -Atak, State -Sarhad, Pakistan. As we were not getting enough money, we decided to carry out robbery / dacoity at some place so that we will get a large amount. As such we left the job.
Thereafter we went to Rawalpindi. We hired a flat at Bangash Colony, Rawalpindi, and started residing in it. Afzal had located a house where he thought we would get a large amount.

He had surveyed the said place and drawn a map of the said place. We required some fire-arms for our purpose. Afzal told me that he could get some fire-arms at his native place, but it was very risky, as there was frequent checking at his native place.

While we were in search of fire-arms we saw some LeT stalls at Raja bazaar, Rawalpindi, on the day of Bakri-id. We thought that, even if we procured fire-arms, we could not operate them. Therefore, we decided to join LeT for weapon training.

After making enquiries we reached LeT office. In the LeT office we met a person. We told him that we wanted to join LeT. He made some enquiry with us, noted our names and address and told us to come on next day.
On the next day, we went to LeT office and met the same man. One more person was present with him.

He gave us Rs 200 and some receipt. Then he gave us the address of a place called Marqas Taiyyaaba, Muridke, and told us to go to the said place where LeT is having their training camp. As directed, we went to the said place by bus. We showed the receipt given to us at the gate of the camp. We were allowed inside. At the entry gate, our details were filled up on two forms. Then we were taken to the actual camp area. At the said place, initially we were selected for 21 days training called Daura-Sufa. From the next day, we started attending training. The daily programme was as mentioned below.
04.15: Wake up call and thereafter namaz
08.00: Breakfast
08.30-10.00: Lecture on Hadis and Quran by Mufti Sayyed
10.00-12.00: Rest
12.00-13.00: Lunch Break
13.00-14.00: Namaz
14.00-16.00: Rest
16.00-18.00: PT and Game Instructor Fadulla
18.00-20.00: Namaz and other work
20.00-21.00: Dinner

After completion of the above said training, we were selected for another training called Daura-Ama. The said training was also for 21 days. We were then taken in a vehicle to a place called Mansera, Buttal Village. At the said place, we were given training of all weapons for 21 days. The daily programme was as mentioned below.
04.15 - 05.00: Wake up call and thereafter namaz
05.00-6.00: PT Instructor abu Anas
08.00: Breakfast
08.30-11.30: Weapons training. Trainer Abdul Rehman, Weapons AK-47, Green-O, SKS, Uzi gun, pistol, revolver
11.30-12.00: Rest
12.00-13.00: Lunch break
13.00-14.00: Namaz
14.00-16.00: Rest
16.00-18.00: PT
18.00-20.00: Namaz and other work
20.00-21.00: Dinner

After completing the said training, we were told that, we will be given the next advance training, but for that purpose we have to do some Khidmat for two months (Khidmat is a sort of service in the said camp as per the traineesÂ’ liking). We agreed to do the Khidmat for two months.

After two months, I was allowed to go to meet my parents. I stayed with my parents for one month. Thereafter, I went to LeT camp situated at Shaiwainala, Muzzafarabad, for further advanced training. At that place, they took my photographs and filled up some forms. Then we were taken to Chelabandi pahadi area for training called Duara-khas. The said training was for 3 months. The training included PT, handling of all weapons and firing practice of the said weapons, training of handling of hand grenade, rocket launchers and mortars. The daily programme was as mentioned below.

04.15-05.00: Wake up call and thereafter namaz
05.00-06.00: PT Instructor Abu Mawiya
08.00: Breakfast
08.30-11.30: Weapons training handling of all weapons and firing practices of the said weapons, training of handling of hand grenade, rocket launchers and mortars, Green-O, SKS, Uzi gun, pistol, revolver, Hand grenade, rocket launchers. Trainer Abu Mawiya
11.30-12.00: Rest
12.00-13.00: Lunch Break
13.00-14.00: Namaz
14.00-16.00: Weapon training and firing practice. Lecture on Indian security agencies
16.00-18.00: PT
18.00-20.00: Namaz and other work
20.00-21.00: Dinner

At the said place 32 persons were present for training.
Out of these 32 trainees, 16 were selected for some confidential operation by one Zaqi-ur-Rehman Chacha. Out of these 16 trainees 3 trainees ran away from the camp. The above said chacha then sent the remaining 13 of us along with a person called Kafa to the above said earlier camp at Muridke. At Muridke, we were taught swimming and getting acquainted with the environment experienced by a fisherman on a sea.

We did some experimental tours by launches on the sea. During the said training, we were given lectures on working of Indian security agencies. We were shown the clippings highlighting the atrocities on Muslims in India.
After completing the said training, we were allowed to go to our native places. For seven days, I stayed with my family members. After seven days I went to the LeT camp at Muzzafarabad.

The above said 13 of us were present for training. Thereafter, as per the instructions of Zaki-ur-Rehman, the above said Kafa took us to camp at Muridke. At the said camp again we underwent the training of swimming and getting acquainted with the environment and experience on sea. The training continued for one month.

During the said training, we were given the lectures on India and its security agencies, including RAW. We were also given the training on how to evade the chase by security personnel. We were strictly instructed not to make phone calls to Pakistan after reaching India.

The names of the persons present for the said training are as mentioned below.
Mohd Azmal aka Abu Muzahid
Ismail aka Abu Umar
Abu Ali
Abu Aksha
Abu Umer
Abu Shoeb
Abdul Rehman (Bada)
Abdul Rehman (Chhota)
Afadulla
Abu Umar

After completion of training, Zaki-ur-Rehman aka Chacha selected 10 of us and formed 5 teams each having two persons on 15 Sept 2008. My team included myself and Ismail. Our code name was VTS team. We were then shown the site ‘Google Earth’ on Internet. On the same site, we were shown the information about Azad Maidan, Mumbai, how and where to get down at Mumbai. We were shown the film on VT railway station and the film showing the commuters moving around at rush hours at VT railway station.

We were instructed to carry out the firing at rush hours in the morning between 7 to 11 hours and between 7 to 11 hours in the evening. Then kidnap some persons, take them to the roof of some nearby building. After reaching at the roof top, we were to contact chacha. After that, chacha would give the telephone or mobile no of electronic media. We were then to contact the media persons on the same phone. And as per the instructions received from chacha, we would make demands for releasing the hostages. This was the general strategy decided by our trainers.

The date fixed for the said operation was 27th Sept 2008. However, the operation was cancelled for some reason. We stayed at Karachi. Again we made practice of travelling by speed boats on the sea. We stayed there upto 23rd Nov 2008. The other teams were as mentioned below.

2nd Team
1) Abu Aksha
2) Abu Umar

3rd Team
1) Bada Abdul Rehman
2) Abu Ali

4th Team
1) Chhota Abdul Rehman
2) Afadulla

5th Team
1) Shoeb
2) Abu Umer

On 23rd Nov 2008, the above said teams including our team left from Azizabad, Karachi along with Zaki-ur-Rehman aka Chacha and Kafa. We were taken to the nearby sea shore. At 04.15 hours we reached the sea shore. At the sea shore we boarded a launch. After traveling for 22 to 25 nautical miles we met a bigger launch in the sea. We boarded the said launch and after journey of 1 hour we boarded a bigger ship by name Al-Huseini in the deep sea. While boarding the said ship, each of us was given a sack containing 8 grenades, one AK-47 rifle, 200 cartridges, 2 magazines and one cell phone for communication.

Then we started towards Indian coast. When we reached Indian waters, the crew members of Al-Huseini ship hijacked one Indian launch. The seamen from the said launch were shifted to Al-Huseini ship. We were then boarded the hijacked Indian ship. One Indian seaman was kept along with us.

At the gun point, he took us towards the Indian coast. After journey of about 3 days, we reached near sea shore of Mumbai. While we were at some distance from the shore, Ismail and Afadulla killed the Indian seaman, (Tandel) at the basement of the said Indian launch. Then we boarded floatable dinghi and reached Budwar Park Jetty as per the instructions received earlier.

After getting down at Budwar Park, I went along with Ismail to VT railway stn by taxi.
After reaching the hall of VT railway stn. We, i.e. Ismail and myself, went to the common toilet, took out the weapons from our sacks, loaded them, came out of toilet and started firing indiscriminately towards the passengers.

Suddenly one police officer in uniform came towards us and opened fire. In retaliation, we threw hand grenades towards him and also opened fire towards him. Then we went inside the railway stn threatening the commuters and randomly firing at them.

Then we came out of the railway stn and started searching for a building with roof top. But we did not find a suitable building. Therefore, we entered a lane. Then we entered a building and went upstarts. On 3rd or 4th floor we searched for hostages but we found that the said building was a hospital and not a residential building. Therefore we started coming down.

At that time policemen started firing at us. As such we threw some grenades towards them. When we were coming out of the hospital premises, we suddenly saw one police vehicle passing in front of us. Therefore, we took shelter behind a bush.

Another vehicle passed in front of us and stopped at some distance. One police officer got down from the said vehicle and started firing at us. One bullet hit my hand and my AK-47 dropped down. I bent to pick it up when second bullet hit me on the same hand. I got injured. Ismail opened fire at the officers who were in said vehicle. They got injured and firing from their side stopped.

We waited for some time and then went towards the said vehicle. Three bodies lying there. Ismail removed the three bodies and drove the said vehicle. I sat next to him. While we were moving in the said vehicle, some police men tried to stop us. Ismail opened fire towards them while we were on the move; our vehicle got punctured near a big ground by the side of road. Ismail got down from the driver seat, stopped a car at the gun point and removed the three lady occupants from the said car. Then Ismail carried me to the car and sat me inside as I was injured. Then he drove the said car.

While we were moving in the said car, we were stopped on the road near sea shore. Ismail fired towards them. Some policemen got injured. Police also opened fire towards us. Due to the police firing Ismail got injured. Then police removed us to some hospital. In the hospital I came to know that Ismail succumbed to the injuries he has sustained.

My statement is read over to me, explained in Hindi and it is correctly recorded.

(The statement has been reproduced verbatim)
Ajmal Amir Qasab:
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#3  John, you are truly appreciated for all you contribute here.
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Blacklist terror charity still open in Pakistan
The main complex of Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD), the Pakistani charity linked to last month's attack on Mumbai, is still open four days after the U.N. Security Council placed the group on a terrorist list, the Times has learned.

Pakistani officials say they ordered the closure of JuD's facilities on Thursday under pressure from India and the United States, which see it is a front for Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) -- the militant group blamed for the Mumbai attack. But when The Times visited the Markaz-e-Taiba complex in the town of Muridke, 30 miles from the eastern city of Lahore, this afternoon it was functioning as normal and there was no sign of any police presence. Most of the 1,600 students at the complex were away for last week's Eid holidays, but a dozen or so staff members and about 40 others were moving freely around the buildings, none of which was sealed.

"We have not had any official communication about closing," Mohammed Abbas (also known as Abu Ahsan), the 34-year-old administrator of the complex, told The Times. "A lot of parents have been calling, afraid that it will be closed or there could be some violence, but we are telling them to send their children back."

He said that about 80 armed police had visited the complex on Wednesday night, but they left after half an hour when the guards told them that the students were away for the holidays. "If I had been there, I'm sure they would have taken me," said Mr Abbas, who was in Lahore when the police visited. He said he spoke to the local police chief at the time.

The half-hearted police raid is certain to feed Indian -- and Western -- skepticism about the Pakistani government's crackdown on JuD, which is led by Hafiz Mohammed Saeed, the founder of LeT. Pakistani police placed him under house arrest on Thursday after he and four colleagues were added to the U.N. terrorist list. His house was surrounded by police, who barred entry when The Times visited. They have shut down JuD's offices in Lahore, which The Times also verified, and in several other cities, and conducted a high profile raid on one of its complexes in Pakistan-controlled Kashmir.

However, Pakistani authorities fear they could spark a public backlash by closing down JuD's network of educational and healthcare facilities, which support tens of thousands of people around Pakistan. JuD and its allies are already stoking public resentment about the U.N. decision to add it to the terrorist list before India has presented Pakistan with evidence of its role in the Mumbai attacks. "The whole international community is acting very hurriedly," said Abdullah Muntazir, a JuD spokesman, who said he had not been arrested, but dozens of other JuD leaders had been. "Justice hurried is justice denied," he told The Times.

Mr Saeed founded JuD in 1986, with Saudi money, as a charity designed to spread the ultra-conservative Wahabi school of Islam by providing poor Pakistanis with education, healthcare and disaster relief. He also founded LeT in 1989 with the explicit goal of fighting Indian rule in Kashmir and forged close ties with Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency.

When Let was banned in 2002, after its militants attacked the Indian parliament the year before, it continued to function under the banner of JuD, according to Indian and Western officials. But JuD also continued with its social work, establishing a network of 153 healthcare centres, eight hospitals, 160 schools and 50 madressahs. It now claims to treat 6,000 patients a day, to teach more than 35,000 students, and to run one of Pakistan's biggest ambulance services. Markaz-e-Taiba is its showcase centre, featuring a boys' school, a girls' school, an Islamic University, a large mosque, a farm and a well-equipped hospital with three full-time doctors. It even has a swimming pool and 20 well groomed horses for student's physical education.

Mr Abbas said it was inspired by a tour of Lahore's Aitchison College, Pakistan's most elite private school whose alumni include Imran Khan, the former Pakistan cricket captain. "If Aitchison College was collaborating with us at that time, then how come we now face this problem now?" he said.

JuD now denies any link to LeT and any involvement in the Mumbai attacks, and has pledged to fight the decision to close it down through Pakistani and international courts.

Mr Abbas, however, warned the government that closing Markaz-e-Taiba could provoke a backlash from locals, many of whom donate money, attend the mosque and send their children there for education. "You can't record a single incident where we have blocked roads or burned tyres, but if this complex is closed, parents of our students may well come on the roads and do such things," he said. "We don't know what will happen when the students return on Monday."

Pakistani officials are especially concerned about a backlash in the province of Punjab, where Markaz-e-Taiba is situated, as the densely populated region has been relatively stable until now, analysts say. Local officials contacted by The Times declined to comment on why the complex, next to the Grand Trunk road between Lahore and Islamabad, had not been closed.
This article starring:
Lahore
Muridke
ABDULLAH MUNTAZIRJamaat-ud-Dawa
ABU AHSANJamaat-ud-Dawa
HAFIZ MOHAMED SAIDJamaat-ud-Dawa
Imran Khan
MOHAMED ABASJamaat-ud-Dawa
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Rockets fired at Bajaur Press Club
The Bajaur Press Club came under a rocket attack on Saturday that caused partial damage to the building and created panic among local journalists. The press club has not been used since August 6, when the security forces launched an operation against the Taliban in Bajaur Agency. "Two rockets hit the club premises damaging the building partially. No loss of life was reported as the facility has not been in use for security reasons," local journalists and security forces said. No group has claimed responsibility for the attack on the press club, which is situated close to the paramilitary forces and political administration offices. A meeting of Tribal Union of Journalists condemned the attack. It said the journalists were reporting 'impartially' and targeting the press club was 'uncalled for'. "We condemn this attack, which is a matter of grave concern for all of us," the meeting participants added. "We call on national and international organisations to take up the issue of journalists' security in Bajaur with all relevant authorities in Pakistan," the union demanded. Two journalists -- Noor Hakim and Muhammad Ibrahim -- have been killed in Bajaur in the past year.
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Khyber's Shinwaris, Afridis feel 'humiliated' by LI
Khyber Agency's Shinwari and Afridi tribesmen say they are abused and humiliated by Lashkar-e-Islam (LI), a private militia, which has taken it upon itself to 'preserve tribal traditions and Islamic values'. "I feel disgraced and humiliated at the way the LI men treat us at checkposts," a tribal elder who migrated to Peshawar from Khyber following the emergence of the private militia and the Taliban in the area told Daily Times.

Mobile phones with musical ring tones or images will be confiscated, a fine of Rs 500 will be imposed on owners of cars playing music and anyone not wearing the local cap will have to pay a Rs 100 fine to the LI vigilantes on the main Torkham highway, tribal sources said. "The Shinwaris and Afridis have never been disgraced and humiliated in this manner. Sometimes I think we, the proud people of Khyber, are so weak that we cannot face this bunch of hillbillies people."

What pains the Shinwaris and Afridis most is the vigilantes swearing at them in women's presence. A retired bureaucrat who served in the Tribal Areas as a political agent said a tribesman would prefer death to being called 'shameless' in front of his family's women. "A tribesman takes pride in being [a] male and when someone dishonours him in front of women, it is like you are stripping him of that pride," the bureaucrat said.
So what'd you do to stop it, Mr. Fierce Tribesman, Never Been Conquered?
"We have stopped travelling between Landikotal and Peshawar to avoid this humiliation," said a tribal trader.
"And at night we sleep under our beds in case they come for us."
The LI vigilantes are using an abandoned Frontier Corps checkpost on the highway linking Pakistan with Afghanistan. The LI's manifesto outlines the group's campaign for preserving the tribal traditions and Islamic values and declaring war on criminals, mostly kidnappers and car thieves. LI chief Mangal Bagh occasionally uses media for publicity when his vigilantes recover a kidnapped person.

Besides witnessing the rise of the private militia recently, Khyber is also becoming known for the presence of Taliban with strong allegiance to the country's most-wanted Taliban commander Baitullah Mehsud. The Taliban are expanding their sway in the area providing a strategic supply route for NATO and US forces in Afghanistan.

A tribal teacher in Landikotal said the youth were being 'extremely affected' by what he called 'patronised phenomena'. He said, "Earlier, my sons used to ask questions to increase their knowledge. Today, they ask me who is stronger between the LI and Baitullah Mehsud."
Trying to figure which way to jump, huh? Y'got the devil on one side, the deep blue sea on the other.
"Another thing I notice now is that children play with sandbags, tearing them apart to mimic a suicide attack. You see what trends are influencing the youth now," the teacher said declining identity. "We are headed towards complete destruction unless we do something to stop what is happening in Khyber today," he added.
"Oh, yasss. Somebody should do something."
This article starring:
BAITULLAH MEHSUDTTP
MANGAL BAGHLashkar-e-Islam
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#1  The humiliated need firearms. Yesterday.
Posted by: Last Breath Farm Resident || 12/14/2008 3:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Guns are probably easier to get than fresh fruit there.

Guts are what they need.
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'Indian female spy arrested near Afghan border'
Amid escalating tension between Pakistan and India following the Mumbai terror attacks, Pakistani officials said security forces captured an Indian female spy near the Pak-Afghan border, the Hindustan Times reported on Saturday.
Those damned Hindoos better quit provoking the Paks or they're really gonna get it.
It said an Interior Ministry official confirmed the arrest, saying the woman was the second Indian spy arrested in Pakistan in less than two months.
The place is swarming with Indian spies, y'know.
The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the woman, arrested after intelligence reports, was moved to Islamabad and was being interrogated, the paper said. Quoting security agencies, the official said there was 'strong evidence' of the woman's Indian nationality and that she was 'an employee of a top Indian intelligence agency'.
They could tell she was a spy because she was wearing those booby plates. Honest wimmin don't wear them.
He said security along the Pak-Afghan border has been beefed up following tensions between Pakistan and India, the newspaper said.
Boy, I'll say.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  Women scare the shit out of these islamists. heh
"'strong evidence' of the woman's Indian nationality", yeah, she had a precious stone glued to her forehead, 8 arms, dressed in a sari(sp?) and their balls fell off when she gave them the look."'an employee of a top Indian intelligence agency'", of course she was, had her Microsoft Information Center ID around her neck, plus her supervisors e-mail addy inked on her palm.
Posted by: Last Breath Farm Resident || 12/14/2008 4:09 Comments || Top||

#2  She was literate.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/14/2008 15:32 Comments || Top||


FC refuses security to terminals
The Frontier Constabulary (FC) has refused to provide security protection to NATO terminals, a private TV channel reported on Saturday FC Deputy Commandant Rehmat Khan said the force did not have additional personnel that could be deployed at NATO terminals. He said the FC was mainly entrusted with maintaining law and order, adding current resources did not allow FC deployment for protecting the terminals.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


No ISI link with LeT, says Zardari
Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency has no links with the banned Lashkar-e-Tayyaba, President Asif Ali Zardari said in a Newsweek interview on Saturday.

Asked if the country's premier spy agency had shared intelligence with the Lashkar on Kashmir, Zardari said it was "something [that happened] in the old days when dictators used to run the country. Maybe before 9/11, that may have been a position. [But] since then, things have changed to a great extent".

He said the group had now been banned in Pakistan, but such groups "keep re-emerging in different forms". "Whenever there is actionable intelligence, we move in before anyone else does," he said.

Role in politics: The president -- who is scheduled to address a press conference at the President's House to discuss 'key national and international issues' today (Sunday) -- said Benazir Bhutto and he had always believed intelligence agencies have nothing to do with politics. "Since I have been in government, we've had a stated position that ISI has no political role anymore."

He denied US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had asked Pakistan to arrest 'some people', particularly former ISI head Hamid Gul.

"She is a friend and she knows Pakistan is a responsible state, and the Americans and the British know how much my government has done for this operation," Zardari told Newsweek.

Gul was "definitely not in our good books", he said, but added the retired general was not accused in the Mumbai terrorist attacks last month. "He is more of a political ideologue of terror rather than a physical supporter," the president said. He said Rice "did not go into specifics" anyway.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: ISI

#1  The Nazis had no connection to the SS.
Posted by: Hammerhead || 12/14/2008 10:00 Comments || Top||

#2  A more accurate analogy would be the KGB and the Red Army Faction, the Japanese Red Army, the IRA, the PLO, the Weathermen...
Posted by: Pappy || 12/14/2008 11:51 Comments || Top||

#3  I think the true statement is, the ISI IS the LeT.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/14/2008 14:59 Comments || Top||

#4  Master and his dog.
Posted by: ed || 12/14/2008 15:12 Comments || Top||


PAF turns back Indian jets
Indian aircraft violated Pakistani airspace in Kashmir and Lahore sectors on Saturday but were chased back over the border, the Pakistani government and a Pakistan Air Force spokesman said. Air Commodore Himayun Viqar said the Indian aircraft crossed into Azad Kashmir and the eastern city of Lahore. The state-run APP news agency said two aircraft were involved, but did not give the exact time.

Information Minister Sherry Rehman said there was no need for alarm and that the Indian Air Force had told Pakistan the incursion was 'inadvertent'. "We have confirmed it. We have spoken to the Indian Air Force and they have said it was inadvertent," she said. "Our air force is on alert and is ready to face any eventuality, but we do not expect this to escalate. There is no need for alarm."

In New Delhi, an Indian Defence Ministry spokesman said he had no information on the reported incursion.

The Azad Kashmir prime minister confirmed the reports while talking to a private TV channel.

The violations occurred at a time of heightened tension between the nuclear-armed neighbours following a series of terrorist attacks on Mumbai two weeks ago that the Indian government has blamed on elements based in Pakistan.

Another private TV channel in Pakistan said the Indian jets were 'fully armed with weapons and ammunition' and flew up to four kilometres inside Pakistani territory. It quoted unidentified officials as saying that the violations occurred 'during the day' but did not elaborate.

President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani were immediately informed, the channel said. Gilani said the Pakistani government was not taking the Indian violations as an attack on Pakistan because they were not deliberate.

TV reports quoted him as saying it was a 'minor technical mistake' that delayed a manoeuvre in air.

The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) spokesman told Aaj Kal a top-level PAF meeting followed the violations to discuss a course of action amid increasing tensions between India and Pakistan. He said it was premature to call the violations an attack, but added that the PAF was "fully prepared to deal with any situation".

Nawaz Sharif, chief of the opposition Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz, condemned the Indian violation of Pakistani airspace in a statement late on Saturday. "The Pakistani nation is united against any foreign aggression," he said.

The state-run PTV also reported an explosion was heard in the Arabian Sea, between the Badin and Jati towns, but a Pakistan Navy spokesman denied the report. "There were no reports of any explosion in the Arabian Sea," the spokesman said. A TV channel quoted military sources as saying that the Pakistani armed forces had been put on high alert. India and Pakistan have fought three wars and went to the brink of a fourth in 2002. A peace process begun in 2004 appears to be in jeopardy after the Mumbai attacks.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  This is a TEST. heh
Posted by: Last Breath Farm Resident || 12/14/2008 4:12 Comments || Top||

#2  ION INDIA, PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM > LTTE TERROR GROUP [Sri Lanka] WAS CREATED BY INDIA; + WORLD MIL FORUM > INDIA INCENSED AS CHINA DEVELOPS CLOSER RELATIONS WID SRI LANKA.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/14/2008 21:25 Comments || Top||

#3  ION NOT PAKI OR INDIA, WORLD MIL FORUM > IIUC RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE BELIEVES CHINA WILL FOREGO DEVELOP OF 80,000-TON LARGE AIRCRAFT CARRIERS [STOBAR/Jumpramp], AND WILL FOCUS INSTEAD OF SMALLER HELICOPTER/AMPHIBIOUS CARRIERS FOR SATURATION IN WAR.

* SAME > IIUC RUSSIA: CHINA HAS NOT GIVEN UP OR ALTERED ITS MILITARY AMBITIONS AGZ RUSSIA [espec Russ Territories]; + PREMIER WEN JIABAO: CHINA WILL NOT BACK DOWN AGZ JAPAN ON ITS [ancient]CLAIMS TO THE DAOYU ISLANDS [Japan = SENKAKU Islands]. DAOYUS WERE PART OF CHINA IN ANTIQUITY. CHINA PREFERS DIPLOMACY TO MILITARY CONFRONTATION WITH JAPAN.

Also, EXPERT: CHINA MUST BEGIN BUILDING OVERSEAS MIL BASES IN SUPPORT OF ITS NATIONAL AND FOREIGN POLICIES.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/14/2008 21:36 Comments || Top||


Taliban commander, three Afghans killed in Bajaur Agency
A notorious commander was among four Taliban killed during an operation in Bajaur Agency on Saturday, officials said, as locals told Daily Times that at least 11 people had been killed in fresh violence in Swat.

The Taliban commander -- identified only as Ismail -- was killed in Bajaur's Nawagai tehsil, while three other Taliban -- all of them Afghan citizens -- were killed in Sperai area of Mamoond tehsil, said officials, adding that several other Taliban were also wounded as security forces targeted their positions with artillery and mortars.

Meanwhile, Locals said a child was killed and six people injured when a mortar shell hit their house in Anayat Kalay area of Khar, locals said. Four more children were injured when a missile fired by the Taliban landed in a residential area of Khar.

Also on Saturday, the Bajaur Press Club's building was partially damaged when it came under a rocket attack.

In Swat, locals said five civilians were killed when a car hit a landmine in Jano area of Khawazakhela tehsil.

In Mandal Dag area of Matta tehsil, Taliban killed four people in a gunbattle with followers of a local leader.

In a separate incident, unidentified assailants gunned down a man in Islampura area of Mingora. Another man was killed in firing by security forces in Gul Jaba area of Kabal tehsil, according to locals.

Army fort attacked: In Khyber Agency, the political administration said the army's Jamrud Fort came under a bomb attack. There were no casualties.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: TTP

#1  I hear the pay for the Talibanis isn't all that great, but the retirement benefits are out of this world. Noone has complained yet.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 12/14/2008 21:04 Comments || Top||


Taliban kill two 'US spies'
Suspected Taliban have killed two Afghan nationals they accused of spying for US forces, officials said. The men's bodies were found in Miranshah, North Waziristan, said a police official. One had his throat slit, the other had multiple bullet wounds. A letter found nearby alleged the men gave information that aided the US in launching missile strikes in the region.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: TTP

#1  If they think we can recruit useful assets in less than a decade, they know nothing of the wonders of congressional oversight and risk adversity. They need to export a higher percentage of their opium crop.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/14/2008 15:38 Comments || Top||


Taliban torch 11 more NATO trucks
Suspected Taliban torched at least 11 trucks en route to Afghanistan carrying NATO supplies, in another brazen attack targeting coalition goods on Peshawar's Ring Road, police and locals told Daily Times. Police official Awaz Khan said that 11 trucks were gutted in the fire that started in the early hours of Saturday at Bilal Terminal on Ring Road. AFP said 13 containers had also been destroyed.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: TTP

#1  Where the fuck is Amway?
Posted by: Last Breath Farm Resident || 12/14/2008 4:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Glue 6 inch plastic Obama statue on the dashboard of each truck. They'll get through.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/14/2008 8:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Was it in Iraq that the troops painted verses from the Koran on the sides of the trucks? That was pretty effective, as I recall.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2008 8:48 Comments || Top||

#4  Severn years in and they decide to threaten our supply lines. They obviously traveled to the madrassa via the short donkey train.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/14/2008 15:41 Comments || Top||


UK may help find Pakistani general's killers
The brother-in-law of VS Naipaul, the British novelist and Nobel laureate, was murdered last month after threatening to expose Pakistani army generals who had made deals with Taliban militants.

Major-General Faisal Alavi, a former head of Pakistan's special forces, whose sister Nadira is Lady Naipaul, named two generals in a letter to the head of the army. He warned that he would "furnish all relevant proof".

Aware that he was risking his life, he gave a copy to me and asked me to publish it if he was killed. Soon afterwards he told me that he had received no reply. "It hasn't worked," he said. "They'll shoot me."

Four days later, he was driving through Islamabad when his car was halted by another vehicle. At least two gunmen opened fire from either side, shooting him eight times. His driver was also killed.

This weekend, as demands grew for a full investigation into Alavi's murder on November 18, Lady Naipaul described her brother as "a soldier to his toes". She said: "He was an honourable man and the world was a better place when he was in it."

It was in Talkingfish, his favourite Islamabad restaurant, that the general handed me his letter two months ago. "Read this," he said.

Alavi had been his usual flamboyant self until that moment, smoking half a dozen cigarettes as he rattled off jokes and gossip and fielded calls on two mobile phones.

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: john frum || 12/14/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq
Gunmen kill 2 civilians in Tikrit
Aswat al-Iraq: Unknown gunmen killed two civilians and wounded two others in an area near Balad suburb, south of Tikrit city, a source from Salah al-Din province's operations command said on Saturday.

"The incident took place 3 km to the south of Balad (100 km south of Tikrit city), on the highway that links Baghdad to Mosul," the source told Aswat al-Iraq. "The gunmen were driving an OPEL brand car," he said. "The victims were returning to Balad from Baghdad," he added. "A child was among the two civilians who were seriously injured," he noted. "The gunmen were able to escape after they conducted the operation," he asserted.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency


110 unknown corpses buried in Baaquba
110 unknown corpses on Saturday were buried in Baaquba, said a source from Diala province's police. "The corpses were found throughout Diala province," the source told Aswat al-Iraq.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency

#1  Adorable non-native English, but confusing: were 110 people buried on Saturday, or were 110 corpses found on Saturday that had been previously buried? And why Saturday, if the corpses were scattered about the province?
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2008 7:51 Comments || Top||

#2  God help me, but I've been reading this stuff so long the paragraph actually made sense to me. The locals found the bodies of 110 stiffs, nobody identified them, and they were reburied (or buried for the first time) in Baaquba. From what I understand, the local police hold bodies for several months before they're buried, hoping that someone would identify them. Cheaper than digging them back up. Against the Koran, which says a body should be buried within 24 hours, but what's a body to do?
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/14/2008 18:33 Comments || Top||


Sri Lanka
Four rebels dead in Sri Lanka clashes
At least four Tamil Tiger rebels were killed in fresh fighting in Sri Lanka's north as ground troops advanced towards the guerrillas' political capital, the defence ministry said on Saturday.

The four rebels were killed in sniper fire west of the Tigers' political base of Kilinochchi on Friday, the ministry said. It did not say whether government troops had suffered any casualties.

Fighting continued in nearby Mullaittivu district on Friday, with troops inflicting "dozens of casualties" on the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), the ministry said. "LTTE radio transmissions have confirmed serious damages (casualties) during the confrontation," it said. The LTTE did not comment on the military casualty claims, but has vowed to push back troops advancing towards Kilinochchi, 330 kilometres north of the capital Colombo.

Casualty claims cannot be independently verified as the government bars reporters and aid workers from travelling to embattled regions.

Separately, the ministry said in a statement Sri Lankan air force jets bombed Tamil separatists in the island's embattled north on Saturday, a day after clashes with troops left 10 rebels dead near their de facto northern capital. Fighter jets bombed six locations to the west and northwest of Kilinochchi, the ministry said in a statement.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Saudi airline office attacked over Israel peace effort
Iran's state-run newspaper says a militant group has attacked the office of Saudi Arabia's state-owned airline in Tehran over a Saudi-backed peace initiative with Israel.

Iran newspaper says the group -- identified as Ikhwan al-Radwan -- attacked the Saudi Arabian Airlines office with several Molotov cocktails on Wednesday, causing minor damage to the building. Saturday's newspaper report quotes a statement by the group saying the reason for the attack was Saudi Arabia's support for an Arab peace initiative. The initiative offers Israel normal relations with all Arab countries if it withdraws from lands occupied in 1967 Arab-Israeli war and allows the creation of a Palestinian state with a capital in Jerusalem.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  Apparently Ikhwan al-Radwan feels the same way I do about the terms of such an initiative. Fuck that, fuck you, shove it where the Sun don't shine. One more initiative like that and Israel should roll back into Lebanon, any place else they see fit.
Posted by: Last Breath Farm Resident || 12/14/2008 3:48 Comments || Top||


Iran arrests nuclear employees suspected of spying
A number of Iranians working for the Islamic Republic's contentious nuclear program were arrested by state security service agents this week, on suspicion of spying.

The arrests were disclosed in a report released Wednesday by Tabnak, an official Iranian news agency with close ties to the Revolutionary Guard - the body overseeing Iran's nuclear project. The report did not detail how many people were arrested or on behalf of which states they were suspected of spying. Nor did it say which nuclear project or site the suspects were employed with or what positions they hold.

Last month, Tehran's official radio station announced that Iran had dismantled an espionage network allegedly linked to Israel's Mossad spy agency.

General Mohammad Ali Jafari, the chief of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards, said the alleged network was trying to collect information on Iran's nuclear program and the Guards' military operations as well as details on military and security officials.

Also last month, Tehran executed an Iranian businessman convicted of spying on the Islamic Republic's military on behalf of Israel, the judiciary said on Saturday. Judicial spokesman Ali Reza Jamshidi said Ali Ashtari was hanged on November 17 after being sentenced to death on June 30 by a revolutionary court in Tehran. Ashtari, who was in his mid-40s, was a tradesman in electronic merchandise who supplied military, security and defense centers across the country with electronic devices.

Iranian authorities also recently arrested Hossein Derakhshan, a blogger who visited Israel in 2007, upon his arrival in Tehran from Canada. An Iranian news Website reported that Derakhshan, who also holds Canadian citizenship, admitted to being involved in espionage for Israel, but some believe the report of his confession merely aims to prepare the ground for his execution.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran



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