The efforts of the city fathers of the Austrian city of Graz, often described as the "hometown" of Arnold Schwartzenegger, to make political capital and assume the moral high ground may have backfired.
That is, they thought to chastize Arnold for his decision to not grant clemency to a murderer, and show how enlightened and liberal they were, despising the "medieval" practice of the death penalty, and scorning Arnold for doing his duty.
But according to a German friend of mine, this has lead to the creation of a new German language expression, one which he refused to share, insisting that it did not translate well to English. Perhaps it is an Austrian colloquialism.
Something to the effect that "The people of Graz are ungrateful/disrespectful/indian-givers/deceitful/pragmatic/etc."
He said that this expression is new, and is being used like the infamous "A person from Porlock".
The town of Porlock, if you might recall, had been forever cursed when a single resident interrupted the poet Samuel Taylor Coleridge, right when he was composing his masterful poem "Kubla Kahn", just to chatter about something inane and stupid.
Coleridge lost the creative thread of the poem because of this, never finishing the poem, and attributed it to "A person from Porlock", a town that is forever associated with tedious bores interrupting creative pursuits.
In this spirit, then, "The people of Graz..", for their betrayal of their once beloved son, may not profit as they had supposed, but instead may be cursed forever by this equally painful, if Germanically inscrutable, expression.
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interrupted the poet Samuel Taylor Coleridge, right when he was composing his masterful poem "Kubla Kahn", just to chatter about something inane and stupid.
Ima call Persecute!
Posted by: Leon Clavin ||
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Austria
GDP: $255.9 billion (2004 est.)
Population: 8,184,691 (July 2005 est.)
Area: 83,870 sq km (land and water)
California
GSP: $1.4 trillion
Population: 35,893,799
Area: 163,707 sq mi
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Y'know, some of my paternal ancestors came from Austria (more precisely, from the Austro-Hungarian Empire).
I've been to Austria a number of times (though not since 1990) - beautiful country, nice people. Old Town Salzburg is heartbreakingly beautiful (though the more "modern" part was grey and drab); the Neuseidlersee (Lake Neusiedl) area is breathtaking beyond description - and yes, given the chance, I'd go back there in a heartbeat. Same for Salzburg.
Never made it down to Graz. Apparently I didn't miss anything. Never will now, even if/when I do go back. I can't see wasting even one dime in a town that celebrates mass murderers.
Pfui.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut ||
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I lived in Austria for slightly less than a year, c.1981. Never met more friendlier people.
I assume you made that steep climb to see the castle in Salzburg? At least that's what I remember, 'twas one hell of a climb. No stairs, just a steep slope of cobble stones.
Posted by: Rafael ||
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Rafael - there's another way up for us wusses lazy people. ;-p
I have some wonderful memories of Salzburg, like the cold, rainy December day a bunch of us from the youth hostel spent in a keller in the Altstadt just off (IIRC) Kapitalplatz, drinking cocoa or coffee and passing around a love letter one of the Engish-speaking girls was trying to write to a German guy she had met in Germany a couple of weeks before. (None of us was very fluent in German; can't remember at this point if she was British, Canadian, Aussie, or American.) Each of us who knew some German would make corrections (we hoped) and pass it on to the next person for more help. I've always wondered if he was ever able to decipher it. :-D
There was an old cemetary in front of the Catacombs (St. Peter's? it's a long time ago) that always moved me to tears each time I passed through. It actually was a good shortcut, if you knew about it. Ancient tombstones - some so old their inscriptions were worn off - still lovingly tended, in most cases by the family. I'll never forget the gravesite of an American Army major who was assigned to Salzburg in the occupation following WWII and came to love the place so much that he requested to be buried there when he died. (IIRC, that information was on his tombstone.) I used to know his name. I can think of worse places to spend eternity.
A lovely city - I hope I can go again someday.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut ||
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In Australia, Norway, Sweden and other Western nations, there is a distinct race-based crime in motion being ignored by the diversity police: Islamic men are raping Western women for ethnic reasons. We know this because the rapists have openly declared their sectarian motivations.
When a number of teenage Australian girls were subjected to hours of sexual degradation during a spate of gang rapes in Sydney that occurred between 1998 and 2002, the perpetrators of these assaults framed their rationale in ethnic terms. The young victims were informed that they were âslutsâ and âAussie pigsâ while they were being hunted down and abused.
In Australia's New South Wales Supreme Court in December 2005, a visiting Pakistani rapist testified that his victims had no right to say no, because they were not wearing a headscarf.
And earlier this year Australians were outraged when Lebanese Sheik Faiz Mohammed gave a lecture in Sydney where he informed his audience that rape victims had no one to blame but themselves. Women, he said, who wore skimpy clothing, invited men to rape them.
A few months earlier, in Copenhagen, Islamic mufti and scholar, Shahid Mehdi created uproar when â like his peer in Australia â he stated that women who did not wear a headscarf were asking to be raped.
And with haunting synchronicity in 2004, the London Telegraph reported that visiting Egyptian scholar Sheik Yusaf al-Qaradawi claimed female rape victims should be punished if they were dressed immodestly when they were raped. He added, âFor her to be absolved from guilt, a raped woman must have shown good conduct.â
In Norway and Sweden, journalist Fjordman warns of a rape epidemic. Police Inspector Gunnar Larsen stated that the steady increase of rape-cases and the link to ethnicity are clear, unmistakable trends. Two out of three persecutions for rape in Oslo are immigrants with a non-Western background and 80 percent of the victims are Norwegian women.
In Sweden, according to translator for Jihad Watch, Ali Dashti, âGang rapes, usually involving Muslim immigrant males and native Swedish girls, have become commonplace.â A few weeks ago she said, âFive Kurds brutally raped a 13-year-old Swedish girl.â Rest at FrontPage Mag.
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I guess we just start shootin' em' one by one!!! It'll make em' think next time they got rape on their mind.
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why is the pakistani rape subject a "visitor" at his trial is Australia?if theat wa my daughter the SOB would have never made it out of the country.
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My Imam says that any man dressing like a Muslim is asking to be shot - surely you can understand my culture and express sympathy for me at my diversity based trial.
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Same (gang)rapes epidemic in La Belle France : about 85% of meals served in parisian area prisons in sectors reserved for rapists are muslim meals.
The MSM even has coined a "neutral" word from suburb linguo to designate ethnic gangrapes, "tournantes".
Also, similar survey in Netherlands found that about 2/3 of rapes committed in Holland are perpreted by muslim migrants.
Chilling.
Note that ethnic origin is irrelevant here, only common linkage is religion and islamic culture : rapists are north african or african in France, north african in Holland, Kurd or somali n Norway or Sweden,...
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A very good lesson taught by an anti-rape instructor was that a woman or girl who resists radically reduces her chances of being raped. And resistance is not just "at the time". It is being prepared and practiced against being raped, being aware of situations where you are at risk, both knowing that almost *anything* can be used as a weapon, and above all, a *willingness* to use a weapon to protect yourself.
Alarming FBI statistics show that women who were sexually abused as children have a 220% higher incidence of sexual abuse as adults. This being said, it is a serious warning to those who *were* abused as children.
The preferred anti-rape weapon is a short knife, even a kitchen paring knife will do. Most knife restriction are for blades greater than 3", but a slash or a stab with a 3" blade should be more than sufficient to deter all but drunken or drugged attackers.
Drinking and drug use are open invitations to rape, and are seen as such by rapists, who offer them willingly to potential victims.
Often, a minimal effort to protect onesself ahead of time strongly reduces the need to defend onesself later. But if you must defend yourself, throw caution to the wind and fight like your life depends on it.
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Now Now Multiculturalism says that immigrants should not be forced to change their cultural ways to ours but instead we should learn to understand and accept their cultural ways as different but OK no matter how odd they may seem to us.
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Sorry CF, but I would rather they went through life minus their wedding tackle. Maybe the addition of some VISIBLE external mark (like a brand) that identifies them as having been...modified.
A Fatwa declaring them as suitable for providing sexual release to the intact Lions of Islam would be nice as well.
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Serve only pork in the prisons. Let them learn not to commit crimes, or let them go on hunger strikes. Either way the problem goes away eventually.
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A R branded on their forehead after a slow and painfull castration and a death sentence adftetr they heal up. This applies to all rapists not just the allenists.
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I'm thinking convicted rapists should be sentenced to be castrated publically via blunt force trauma (Ie, a hitting the naughty bits with a 10 lb sledge until they come off) followed by skinning them alive with dull rocks. Should they survive up to that point, then spray them down with OC pepper spray and impale them on spikes in the public square to die of exposure.
My ethics teacher informed me that I'm what's called a Retributionist...punish the crime regardless if it's good for society or not. Personally, I thought punishment was the reason we had laws that were meant to be obeyed.
A very good piece at "The Anchoress". Sorry, I can't post any of it over here. I have a dead mouse and it's just too hard to cut & paste without it. Go read the whole thing.
Here's a sample:
"I read that Jonathan Alter piece and I wanted to vomit, I wanted to puke my guts up! You know why? Because I remember something that maybe Alter has forgotten, that when 9/11 happened, Bush said heâd use âevery toolâ at his disposal, and we all applauded that! Remember? We all said, THANK FREAKINâ GOD this man is in charge, and he clearly means this! I havenât forgotten it. I havenât forgotten what downtown NYC smelled like for weeks after the attack. I havenât forgotten the big freakinâ hole in the city. I havenât forgotten what it felt like to look at a plane taking off from the airport, and me worrying that it was going to be blown up before my eyes from some freakinâ crazed assh*le with a bomb in his shoe, or someone on the ground with a surface-to-air missile - I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN - and Iâm getting damned fed up with my party leadership that seems to have forgotten, and Iâll tell you what, they had better start REMEMBERING, real soon, or theyâre gonna find their asses tossed OUT, come November if they donât get with the program!"
Belated and still foolish about labels, but catching on, nonetheless.
I hope there are millions more, just like her. Such as the 59,028,109 piss-swilling jerkoffs who voted for Skeery.
Some people get it, realize what's important, and adjust to a constantly changing reality. Some are infantile assholes who won't change, won't accept that their worldview has been rendered not only obsolete, but dangerous Pollyanna gibberish, and won't help with their own survival, much less that of our nation. Why? Simply because they would have to admit that they've been stupid tools... even when it's obvious to everyone. We had a close call in 2004. When the survival of Freedom is at stake, taking anything for granted is suicide.
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I think quite a few of the Democrat rank & file are getting it-- they're part of why Bush won last year.
The revolt of "Security Moms" like the Anchoress's neighbor is a serious problem for the Democrats. Had they made a deliberate, tactical decision back in 2002 to vigorously support the GWoT, and at the same time come up with a comprehensive suite of liberal domestic programs to keep their base happy, people like her would not talking today about voting Republican.
But a far worse problem for the Dems is when people start asking themselves, "OK, my party leadership is full of shit on the war; I wonder what else they've been lying to me about???"
The Democrats absolutely cannot afford having any significant number of their constituents start questioning the core assumptions that underly their support for the Party. Once they do, the Party is fucked.
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The Anchoress writes very good fiction. Her neighbor is a composite of a democrat with views she "wishes" democrats would say about their party. She basically is saying that democrats should act like republicans, shut the hell up and rubber stamp everything President Bush does.
Sorry, it doesnt work like that.
Whats really funny is where she says the neighbor says she could "never be a Republican" & calls Republicans "spineless", then criticizes them for getting rid of Trent Lott, who she praises because he has "balls". She then
says Senate Majority leader Sen. Bill Frist has "no balls"...
Like i said the Anchoress writes good fiction.
I believe this who scenario happened in her imagination, not real life.
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I hope Al Qaeda nukes San Francisco and the Hamptons so the Limosine Liberals get what they deserve.
Al
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Cleanup on aisle 6.
Posted by: no mo uro ||
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"I hope Al Qaeda nukes San Francisco and the Hamptons so the Limosine Liberals get what they deserve.
Al"
You go, Moby.
Posted by: no mo uro ||
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Criminy, people, calm down.
No, we're not cleaning up Cassini. We have other ways of handling Kos Kiddies who wonder in here: debate, reason and logic, all of which tend to befuddle them.
And we (I at least ) will NOT cheer al-Qaeda to nuke an American city, any American city. The liberals in Berkeley are still Americans, even if they wish they weren't. I don't want another American killed by a terrorist, and I sure as hell don't want an American city nuked.
I refuse to lower myself to the level of thinking of the DU. AoS.
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Y'know, no mo uro, your nym sorta bothers me - in the same way that others are bothered by my view of Islam.
I am convinced that writing off all of Europe, which your chosen nym rather implies, is off the mark. We used to have an amazing poster here who called himself TGA. It stood for True German Ally. And there was no doubt he was, indeed, all he purported to be. I suggest that there are legions of sensible people behind the Dhimmi Curtain (Like that? I made it up just now.) who will, when their idiot leaders are exposed as such, choose to fight dhimmitude. They were raised to think - so I believe they will see through the BS, eventually.
Sure, they're enjoying the fat 'n happy first stage of socialism - when the Nanny State gives you so many goodies and it looks like Nirvana has come. But we all can see the writing on the wall, if we but look. The goodie giveaway has a price tag which will come due in an economic decline which only raw capitalism can reverse. There will be many casualties in the doing, too.
Additionally, dhimmitude will not suit those with a functioning brain, for it can only exist and succeed where these have been drilled out of people or where they are so outnumbered as to be prisoners. Indoctrination from birth works best, of course - it is the least expensive option to the Mohammedans. Enforced servitude requires heavy oversight and vigilance - sapping the expansion forces available. I suggest that those who do submit will present their incoming Masters with serious problems.
But I believe many will not submit. Will they wait too long? Only time will tell... but there will be sensible people who refuse and will assist in throwing off the servitude - and fight the onslaught of Islam. It's a creeping menace in some places, and an openly bloody conflict in others. Whichever they face, many will fight back when their visions of socialist Nanny State vaporize in a collapse or takeover of government.
I want those people on our side - so I'm not much enamored of your nym. They've chosen bad leaders. We almost did in 2000 and 2004. Tiny swings in the vote would've done it. So arrogance is a luxury we do not have - and should not swagger about presuming we do.
As for those who are, what, uncomfortable (?) with my less charitable views regarding those in the Islamic thrall? What is different between them and the Euros who I do not wish to "write off"?
Easy. The vast majority were born to Islam. The voluntary conversion rate is very very small compared to the takeovers and those born to it, I believe. Those born to it know nothing else, in large part, and will not give it up even when they do get a taste of our world - as I have observed first-hand and posted on in the past. Freedom doesn't dissuade them from their comfort zone of the knowns - it often frightens them, infact - and they revert when they come back to the fold, to their comfort zone. I state this as something I learned from experience in Saudi Arabia. Is my experience so limited as to be worthless when addressing all of Islam? I'm not certain, but I believe it to be so. What I saw is precisely what is being exported, so I think my take is substantially correct. I have seen nothing substantial to disprove it, yet. I have seen the opposite, in fact - actions and choices they made which support my view.
The fabled Moderate Muslims are the current darlings of the illiberals. They will not stand up against the "radical" Islam for a slew of mixed reasons. Fear and Agreement are the main ones. Muslim First isn't merely a phrase, it's a tenet of Islam. Read their books. It is all written plainly, presuming the translation is worth warm spit. The inactive Muslims, the so-called Moderate Muslims, are an untapped resource, mainly. There may be a fringe we can nibble away at to reduce the threat, but the evidence suggests it is either insubstantial or illusory. I believe it to be infinitesimal. But hey, in freedom each may believe what they will - evidence, the factual experience we see everyday here and all around us, seems to be of little consequence to some, inconvenient to the personal worldview of others, and just too damned hard to accept for the remainder. I empathize with the latter for they are good people hoping for the best, seeking a middle ground, forestalling the final choice. It sucks to find myself in opposition to these people. Truth be told, I hope they're right and I'm wrong, but I don't think so.
When you digest it and think upon it long and hard, as I have, you reach some rather unpleasant - what shall I call them? Facts? Observations? Views? Doesn't matter, in the end. If we cannot count upon the Moderate Muslim Brigade fighting alongside us against the jihadis, but something very different, indeed: them aiding and abetting our foes whenever called upon, whether it's from fear or agreement the effect is the same, well then - there's no nice way to say it, is there?
It would take volumes to put forth all of the reasoning I waded through before concluding we had to face this head-on and fry 'em up, if necessary, and most have heard some or much of it already and understand me, but there it is. Many have posted very eloquent views, well-reasoned from their experience, that differ from my conclusion. I do not discount them in whole, but in the end I must take my own experience as my guide, as I know it to be factual.
We will have some number of allies among those who were taught to think, who were born to freedom, who have seen what it means - and will miss it when it is crushed under Mohammed's heel. So I'd like to encourage them to wake up, not write them off.
We will see almost no Mohammedans throwing off their shackles and joining us against their kin. Everything about their ideology, it's not a religion, and the Arab society as well, will demand their adherence and loyalty. The Mohammedans will hold their kin hostage - or whatever other means they see available - to guarantee zakat is paid, fodder is provided, and everything from spying, stealing tech knowledge, etc. to suiciding themselves when called upon is there when the Mohammedans demand it. Essentially, given what I've witnessed first-hand and what the evidence elsewhere demonstrates, I've given up on them. Sad, but true.
As for our native asshats, they're playing games. Socialism and such are supported and survive because freedom has provided the means for fools to play at life. Without the security and largess of freedom, they'd be unable to play at Stalinism - they'd be too busy surviving. These people hold no value, IMHO. They're free, well taught, and willfully stupid dolts who couldn't be trusted with their own welfare, much less ours. To them, indeed, I echo Frozen Al's sentiments, though I'd give warning so the non-idiotarians could get out... It's not like the Deep Blue places are homogenous, lol. Fair warning - the idjits won't believe it and our poor brothers and sisters of intelligence will get out before the new sun burns, lol.
Just my take. Some of my most valued friends are among the broad swath your nym derides. Of the Muzzies, well, those that can be saved will get it when the blood flows freely in the West and we begin fighting back in earnest on our own shores. And that day approaches, I think. We will take all who come, but we should not afford them the opportunity to bring the lethality of modern weapons to us, to our shores.
Either we take away the means, the capability, or we will suffer the consequences. Let's fight this pathogen together. I want to hold the door open to the Euros and anyone else born to freedom who might "get it" in time.
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.com, do you like fishing? ...engage in any sports? Do some activity, get your mind off of world events for a while. What you speak of so gloomly won't happen for some time yet. Perhaps, just perhaps, it could all end with a whimper, not a bang, as you would predict.
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ROFL. You don't really expect a direct response to that, do you?
I do NOT want to nuke anybody. I thought Al was trying to do a Moby here in the thread and make Rantburg look bad. If I'm wrong, apologies.
If Cassini and the rest of the Kos Kidz and moveon crowd can be cajoled, befuddled, etc., great. I become less convinced that this can happen at all with their ilk as time goes by. Color me jaded - you're a better man than me for keeping the faith.
.com - well, you ream me for my nym, and it's easy to see how you might. But don't assume that I've given up on every last European. I've read here at Rantburg for a long time, I remember TGA, and I liked his posts. If only I could be convinced that he represents any more than a miniscule percentage of Euros. Don't be offended by the nym - I certainly recognize that there are good folks living in Euroland. It's just that it seems needle in the haystack. I must admit that I think it unlikely EUroland will recover from its emasculated, infertile, postmodern, atheist, lotus-eating, socialist condition, and I have yet to see anyone post a credible mechanism for this happening. Hence the nym.
But I'd be happy if they did find a way out.
Posted by: no mo uro ||
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Fair enough, then. My thoughts stand for those who have written them off - and I believe, as I said, they are not miniscule in muber, just sitting by at the moment, fat 'n happy in their Nanny State.
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I'd also like to go on record as not wishing a nuke to hit anybody. not an American city (what troll nonsense) not an Israeli city, European city or Arab city or anyone else. Nukes are non-descriminatory killing masses of people and civilians.
We are better than that. Our enemy is not and that is a big reason why they are the enemy and why I feel no regret removing said governments from power.
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We have other ways of handling Kos Kiddies who wonder in here: debate, reason and logic, all of which tend to befuddle them.
You cold bastard. And a Doctor!
Posted by: Leon Clavin ||
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You don't really expect a direct response to that, do you?
No. But in the same way you just said that Europe shouldn't be written off, I tend to be a little more optimistic than you, it seems. And you know why I say that? Most muslims I talk to say that muslims could not have committed the 9/11 attacks. If this is their De Nile, then maybe, just maybe, they may yet be awakened to the truth, as you say might happen to our European friends. We'll see.
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#11 .com - speaking of TGA, anyone know what happened to him? I think of him quite often, and look for his name in the comments. Given his (assumed) age, I'm concerned he might be ill.
Hopefully he's just too busy trying to help Germany survive and open their collective eyes.
Come back, True German Ally - we all miss you.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut ||
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From one of TGA's last comments, I gathered he was actively campaigning for Merkel in their last election. If so, it may well be that he's in a government position right now, and unable to post comments :-)
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I fully expect Europe to erupt in civil strife, I just want the Euros to remember that we won't be there to rescue their ungrateful asses.
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Just a heads up: The Berlin daily Tagesspiegel will report tomorrow that the US is looking into military strikes on possible Iranian targets associated with their nuke program.
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#21 Rafael - thanks for the info. I was really swamped with work through the Fall up to about mid-December and just did "drive-bys" to Rantburg when I could. I must have missed that.
I hope he's doing well. I know TGA must be really busy now if he's connected somehow with Merkel's government, but I do wish he'd drop by occasionally - I miss his insights.
It isn't like anyone actually knows who he is. (At least, not anyone who would talk. ;-p)
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Good news if true.
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As far as I remember, he wasn't pleased with the campaign, so maybe he's on some extra long vacation :-)
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#11 .com.
Sheesh! Seems like someone pushed all your buttons! ;-)
Being from 'over there' in my previous life (seems like another lifetime), it looks that the timeline is set by default, resulting in TSWHTF in ~ 5 years and then euros (not to be confused with EUros) will expect us (that is US) to play deux ex machina again. Except for minor resistance, the ovis europei will follow whoever barks the loudest.
Paul Fromm, the director of the Canadian Association for Free Expression (CAFE), believes that those who support the Holocaust do not tolerate any rational discussion of the subject and have turned the Holocaust into a religion.
If I know something is fact and somebody tells me it's not, I don't bother "discussing" it with them, either. If all of history is open to interpretation and redefinition, then there is no history.
Following his defense of free speech, the Mehr News Agency asked his opinion on why Western countries were so outraged when the Iranian president said that if the Westerners are sincere and believe in the Holocaust, why donât they give part of their land to the Jews and asked why the Palestinians should have to pay the penalty for the Westâs crimes.
There are arguments to be made against the "Jewish homeland" if you're really against Zionism. The primary argument I can think of is, if we're fighting against Muslims who demand a state founded on religion with the left hand, why are we supporting Jews who demand a state founded on religion with the right? I'd feel much more comfortable with the idea if Israel was a purely secular state, and my hackles rise every time the rabbis try to act like the mullahs.
On the other hand, the Paleostinians didn't have to pay the price for the West's "crimes." They left on the expectation of the Arab armies driving the Jews into the sea, at which time they could return and retrieve not only their own property but that of their neighbors as well. Those who didn't leave remain in the country and they're citizens. They have their representation in the Knesset and they're integrated into the armed forces. The Paleostinians' bitch is that they're not in charge, free to run their Baathist-style state and carry out whatever kind of pogroms they please.
Following is the text of an interview with Paul Fromm conducted on December 19:
Q: The Iranian president said that he thinks that the Holocaust is a myth. However, he also said some European countries insist that Hitler killed millions of innocent Jews and added that if the Europeans are right, why donât they give part of their land to the Jews. Was the view illogical?
A: I agree with the Iranian president that it is wrong to make the Palestinians pay, with the loss of their country, for guilt Europeans may feel about their treatment of the Jews. I also agree that the story of the âholocaustâ has been used to induce false guilt in Europeans and North Americans. This story has allowed the Jews to acquire many billions of dollars in reparations from Germany and other countries. It has also made many people in Europe and North America ready to overlook Israeli atrocities and brutality.
Q: Why do they refuse to discuss the Holocaust? If they are right, surely they can prove that it was a historical event?
A: As the Iranian president said, in Europe you can deny the existence of God. However, if you question the slightest aspect of the self-serving story of Jewish sufferings in World War II, called âthe holocaustâ, you can end up in prison in Europe. Historians like David Irving, now imprisoned in Austria and publishers Ernst Zundel and Germar Rudolf, now imprisoned in Germany, are good examples of this phenomenon. âThe holocaustâ has become a religion. Itâs a religion created by the Jews for non-Jews. Like many religions, itâs a means of controlling the believers. As a religion, the holocaust demands faith and belief. Its supporters shun rational discussion and debate. You must believe. To question is to be a heretic and heretics must be punished.
Q: Why has the Holocaust become a dogma nowadays while other people across the world are killed and nobody cares?
A: The holocaust is a selfish story serving the political and economic interests of the Zionists. Hollywood, extensively controlled by Zionists, pumps out endless propaganda films about the holocaust. The sufferings of others, for instance, the 16-million Germans ethnically cleansed from Eastern Europe, 1944-1948, receive no attention whatsoever.
Q: Why have revisionists been banned from discussing the Holocaust and why are those who express any doubts treated like heretics?
A: The holocaust religion serves the purpose of controlling people. It buys Israel substantial immunity from criticism. It allows special treatment of Jews in most Western countries. It allows Jews to have disproportionate control of the media and the economy in Western countries, while all the while portraying themselves as a persecuted minority. Discussion of the holocaust would undermine the privileged and powerful position Zionists hold in most Western countries. Therefore, anyone discussing or questioning aspects of the holocaust story must be silenced.
Q: Your support for freedom of expression has caused some problems for you, isnât that so?
A: I havenât been beaten by Jewish militia. However, Jewish pressure led to my being fired by the Peel Board of Education because I had supported freedom of speech, including for some individuals like British war hero and journalist Doug Collins, who had questioned some aspects of the holocaust story and who had called Steven Spielbergâs propaganda film âSchindlerâs Listâ âSwindlerâs Listâ.
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A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
