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I voted for Fred, and it's a vote for him and for all of the posters here who somehow - unmoderated - continue to keep the whole thing on-topic and perpetually interesting.
Thanks Fred! Thanks immensely for Rantburg! And thanks everyone else who posts, because you're the breadth of opinion here. Somehow, day after day, I come here and read and I'm never left wondering "why is this article here?" It's all good stuff...
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I agree Vic, thanks Fred! I love it here, you've managed to establish a outstanding blog. Keep up the good work.
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D'oh that would be "an" outstanding blog. I know how to core a apple O' chef of the future.
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Group Blog ? Sounds erotic... and fun. Will there be Jello ? I'm up and on the way. When I get there, I'll vote for Fred.
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Rantburg of course got my vote. For a group effort, I don't believe that there is any blog out there with the breath of opinion and just interesting stories as Rantburg has.
I'd like to thank Fred personally for adding to my education of the world...Rantburg should be required daily reading....for everybody!...(grin)
A woman reported "trampled" last Friday by Wal-Mart shoppers desperate for $29.87 DVD players has a long history of claiming injuries from Wal-Marts and other businesses where she worked or shopped. Fancy that.
Patricia Vanlester, 41, was knocked unconscious and, her sister said, "trampled by a herd of elephants" by a stampede of shoppers reaching for DVD players that went on sale at 6 a.m. the day after Thanksgiving, according to Orange City police and the sister, Linda Ellzey. The story was picked up by the Associated Press and carried in newspapers and other media as far away as Australia and China, an example -- some commentators have opined -- of American excess during the holiday shopping season. Then some people scratched their heads and said "Hey, she looks awfully familiar."
An investigation by WKMG-Local 6 reveals Vanlester has filed 16 previous claims of injuries at Wal-Mart stores and other places she has shopped or worked, according to Wal-Mart, court files and state records. Her sister, who accompanied her Friday on the visit to Wal-Mart, has also filed a prior injury claim against Wal-Mart, with Vanlester as her witness, a company spokeswoman said yesterday. If they hadnât gotten all the publicity, they might have pulled it off.
Asked whether Vanlesterâs frequent injury claims might cast doubt on the veracity of her latest allegation, her attorney, David L. Sweat, of Port Orange, said, "No comment." Snicker
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Dammit! The Army of Steves strikes again!
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Bwahahaha!
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The story was picked up by the Associated Press and carried in newspapers and other media as far away as Australia and China, an example -- some commentators have opined -- of American excess during the holiday shopping season.
Excess, indeed... though it turns out it is, in fact, untrue.
On the other hand, we have these rational acts which occured during the Hajj, every mooslim's sacred requirment: Security and safety have been major concerns at the hajj. In 1998, a stampede at the stoning ritual killed 180 people. A 1997 fire in Mina killed more than 340 pilgrims and injured 1,500, and a 1994 stampede killed 270 pilgrims. The most deadly hajj-related tragedy was a 1990 stampede in which 1,426 pilgrims were killed. USA Today
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walmart is fairly aggressive about countersuing - I wouldn't expect a Merry Christmas at the families' house. Also, the police might consider charging them with...
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I shop at Walmart and Sams club a lot. About every other time I see someone sprawled out on the floor. They video the sales floor so they can usually beat these 'frquent fallers' at their own game. I think that they should be charged and made to work for FREE as part of the restitution.
EFMSG
A woman who ran down a McDonaldâs restaurant manager after she didnât get mayonnaise on her cheeseburger was sentenced to 10 years in prison Thursday for aggravated assault. Now, in prison, she will enjoy limitless mayonnaise.
Waynetta Nolan, 37, has said she didnât mean to run over Sherry Jenkins, who was dragged across the burger chainâs parking lot during the incident and broke her pelvis. âThe next thing I noticed was mayonnaise all over my windshield and hood. I couldnât see a thing. Nope. Nothing, Had, nooooo idea I was dragging McManager across the lot!â
After ordering at the drive-thru April 23, Nolan became angry when she was told the restaurantâs cheeseburgers didnât come with mayonnaise. Witnesses said she threw the burger back through the drive-thru window. Thatâll teach um!
The manager offered her another burger but the lardass troll Nolan then complained about her french fries and drink. When she couldnât pacify her customer, the manager called police and was told to take down the womanâs license plate number. When she went outside, Nolan hit her with her car. Beep, Beep!
Nolan testified she was startled by a car horn, accelerated and accidentally hit Jenkins. Then hers lips fell off, her legs swelled like mellons (from the salt) and her hand fell off in the mayonnaise jar. I mean really. If you are going to enjoy a cheeseburger, everyone knows the key is ketchup, not mayonnaise.
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Next time it will be a accident when a JCpenny manager is killed in the store by a BMW.
" I was just looking for a parking place and she wouldn't move! It's not my fault! "
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Then her lips fell off...
No, actually, then she roared off the wrong way down a one-way street.
This is the most pathetic testimony you are likely to hear in your lifetimes (from today's Houston Chronicle):
I gave her everything she asked for," a tearful Jenkins [the manager/victim] told jurors Thursday. "I put mayo on her burger. I took off the onions and mustard. What did I do to deserve this?" She's been "unable to fulfill [her] wifely duties" ever since.
Waynetta, on the other hand, has a 1997 conviction for assault when she hit her ex-lover's girlfriend with her car.
A new film with the eye-catching title Osama stars an illiterate 12-year-old found begging in the streets of Kabul, who plays a girl who poses as a boy so she can work.
Itâs the time of the Taliban; the men in her family are dead, and women cannot leave home unless accompanied by male relatives.
The movie is the first feature film made by an Afghan since the ouster of the hard-line Islamic regime two years ago. It was honoured this year at several international film festivals, including Cannes, and is being considered for an Oscar nomination for best foreign-language film.
Soon after Kabul was liberated, Afghan director Siddiq Barmak, 41, returned from Pakistan where he was a refugee, determined to make a film about the abuses his countrymen suffered under the Taliban and its ally, Osama bin Laden.
Wandering through the ruined capital, he found Marina, a street child begging for food. Speaking in Dari, he asked her if anyone in her family had died during Afghanistanâs 23 years of war.
"I said two of my sisters were killed when a wall in a building fell on them, and I began to cry," Marina recalled in an interview. "They hired me to play the main character in the movie, even though I couldnât read and write."
She has used the money she made from Osama and its awards to buy her parents a four-bedroom mud home in a poor part of Kabul. She studies at a school run by Aschiana, an Afghan relief agency for children.
Marina, whose beautiful smile is never seen on film, giggles, blushes and bows her head in embarrassment while talking to foreigners, even though she is now 15 and Barmak took her to a film festival in South Korea earlier this year.
Ariff Herati, 14, who stars as Marinaâs friend in Osama, was found by Barmak in a refugee camp.
He has been less lucky. He didnât save his earnings from the movie and still lives in a windowless mud hut in the camp.
These days, Ariffâs only reliable source of income is a temporary job at a nearby brick kiln. He also owns a horse he rents out to other children to ride in a nearby park.
"Thanks to the coalition, life is getting better in Kabul," he said, sitting atop his horse. "If my wish comes true, I will be a hero in another movie."
Barmak said heâs optimistic about Afghanistanâs future.
He begins his movie with a quote from Nelson Mandela: "I canât forget, but I will forgive." Still, heâs not sure he understands what led to Taliban rule.
"Iâm a Muslim. Iâm not against Muslim traditions," he said. "But why do people sometimes fall for the lying of some leaders in the name of religion?" Thereâs hope in Afghanistan, by Afghans.That is so important, and itâs there.I know the media tries to make it sound so hopeless, but obviously many Afghans donât agree with their assessment.
The initial interrogation of a top figure in the Yemen branch of the al-Qaeda terror network, Mohamed Hamdi al-Ahdal, alias Abu Issam al-Makki, has revealed information about financial dealings between him and important figures in neighbouring countries. "Ahdal provided important information to Yemeni investigators, which implicates important personalities in Arab states regarding financial dealings with Ahdal, who is considered by the Yemeni authorities as the central figure in al-Qaeda in Yemen," a source close to the investigation told AFP.
Spilling beans like that tends to shorten the old lifespan...
The source added that authorities in Yemen believe Saudi-born Ahdal, 32, "is behind the terrorist attack on the USS Cole in October 2000 and the French oil tanker Limburg in October of last year." The ongoing investigation with Ahdal, added the source, is likely to reveal additional important information regarding "terrorist" operations that took place in Yemen in recent years and the identity of those involved directly or those implicated financially or involved in the planning. The information will reveal the identities of external figures involved, which Yemeni authorities are not disclosing at the moment for security reasons. Yemeni authorities believe Ahdal is the second-in-command to Ali Qaed Sunian al-Harithi, alias Abu Ali al-Harithi, who was among the six al-Qaeda suspects killed in November 2002 in a missile attack by the United States Central Intelligence Agency in the desert region of al-Naqaa in Marib province, east of Sanaa.
Wonder how long until al-Ahdal's unfortunate demise in a freak prison fire, flood, or exploding telephone?
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Fred's surprise meter was working earlier today...but (tap tap) it seems to be busted again. Not registering a thing.
By MANSOUR AL-NOGAIDAN
Yesterday I was supposed to appear at the Sahafa police station to receive 75 lashes on my back. I had been sentenced by a religious court because of articles I had written calling for freedom of speech and criticizing Wahhabism, Saudi Arabiaâs official religious doctrine. At the last minute, I decided not to go to the police station and undergo this most humiliating punishment. With the nation at a virtual standstill for the holiday Id al-Fitr, the sentence remains pending. I will leave this matter to fate.
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He may not survive 75 lashes. Doing this may be the only way he avoids the sentence - publicizing it along with his past... He might just get the young (relative to the Sacred Seven) Abdul Aziz to intervene. I wish him luck - they need him, and about 20 million more... Before the REAL WoT front is their border.
... The most recent government crackdown on terrorism suspects, in response to this month's car-bombing of a compound housing foreigners and Arabs in Riyadh, is missing the real target. The real problem is that Saudi Arabia is bogged down by deep-rooted Islamic extremism in most schools and mosques, which have become breeding grounds for terrorists. We cannot solve the terrorism problem as long as it is endemic to our educational and religious institutions.
Yet the Ministry of Education and the Ministry of Islamic Affairs have now established a committee to hunt down teachers who are suspected of being liberal-minded. This committee, which has the right to expel and punish any teacher who does not espouse hard-core Wahhabism, last week interrogated a teacher, found him "guilty" of an interest in philosophy and put on probation.
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But we must be aware that this religious extremism, which has been indoctrinated in several Saudi generations, will be very difficult to defeat. I know because I once espoused it. For 11 years, from the age of 16, I was a Wahhabi extremist. With like-minded companions I set fire to video stores selling Western movies and even burned down a charitable society for widows and orphans in our village because we were convinced it would lead to the liberation of women.
Then, during my second two-year stint in jail, my sister brought me books, and alone in my cell I was introduced to liberal Muslim philosophers. It was with wrenching disbelief that I came to realize that Islam was not only Wahhabism, and that other forms preached love and tolerance. To rid myself of the pain of that discovery I started writing against Wahhabism, achieving some peace and atonement for my past ignorance and violence.
Anybody even remotely surprised?
A VIDEO attributed to al-Qaeda shows members of the Islamist militant group training in Saudi Arabia, NBC news reported today. The video was posted early today on a known al-Qaeda website and produced by a company that has made other videos for the group, NBC reported. In the video, Abdel al-Otaibi, a militant later killed by Saudi authorities, is heard saying: "I strongly encouraged young Muslims to join the jihad for Allahâs sake to protect our land and to drive Christians and Jews out of Muslim countries." "Muslim countries" being defined as any region remotely connected with Islam over the last 13 centuries ...
"Just look what jihad's done for me! I've got 72 virgins and no body!"
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Holy causis belli, Batman! Lets Roll!
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"Muslim countries" being defined as any region remotely connected with Islam over the last 13 centuries ...
And if they had seen a modern world map back then...
For a while, the euro seemed to have counterfeiters stumped. In the year after the new European currency was officially launched in January, 2002, only 167,000 phony bills were found in circulation -- down dramatically from the 650,000 found in the 12 eurozone countries during 2001. The euroâs state-of-the-art security features, including holograms and color-shifting ink, made forgery more difficult than ever [see BW Online, 12/3/03, "Happy Birthday Dear Euro"].
Alas, the crooks now seem to be catching on. The European Central Bank [ECB] says more than 230,000 fake bills were found in circulation during the first half of 2003 alone. Most experts predict the second-half numbers will be even higher. In fact, some experts fear that faking of the euro will exceed the combined total counterfeiting of the currencies that the euro replaced in a few years. Thatâs because forgers rarely bothered with relatively weak and thinly circulated European currencies such as the Portuguese escudo and Greek drachma. "The euro represents a greater prize than many of the other former currencies," says Allister McCallum, head of the ECBâs counterfeit analysis center.
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One of the hazards of being a reserve currency. Welcome to the big time.
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Something I've not seen much comment on, and wonder why: There is ample evidence that some hostile governments are behind significant amounts of currency counterfeiting. Why do stable governments allow these rogue states to get away with this? The old Soviet Union cranked out dollars, marks, pounds, francs, and guilders by the millions. Cuba gleefully destabilizes every currency in the Western Hemisphere. I read a comment somewhere that some fake currency, issued by a hostile government, was of such better quality than the national printing, it was actually preferred. There's plenty of evidence that many other nations, both hostile to the West and supposedly "neutral", are also engaged in such antics. When is such behavior sufficient cause to put an end to it?
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WTF. After the Berlin wall came down, maybe those East German engravers the black hats had printing Franklins for them wanted something else to occupy their time. Who knows.
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I read a comment somewhere that some fake currency, issued by a hostile government, was of such better quality than the national printing, it was actually preferred.
Source: al-Jazeerah
A British man detained by anti-terror police in London was himself reportedly terrorised despite making no attempt to resist arrest. Police taunted the Muslim detainee, who has not been named, by forcing him to prostrate and asking him âwhere is your God now?â, according to his lawyer. Mudassar Arani told Aljazeera.net on Wednesday that her client, of Pakistani origin, also suffered a black eye and bruising to his wrist, back, elbow and shoulder and that photographic evidence would be made available. âSpecial Branch are responsible for inflicting physical and racial abuse on my client.â Arani is representing another three people detained by police in London on Tuesday.
Ummm... No. I don't think so. 'Splain to the nice lady that Muslims talk like that, Brits don't. Lousy propaganda. I give it no more than a 2.5.
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Alas, it's probably not true. But if it is: hit the little b*tch one time for me, 'kay?
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Classic approach:
1) immediately muddy the water
2) countercharge (doesn't matter how outrageous)
3) deflect attention & distract from the issue
4) use simple repeatable sound-byte-sized BS memes (which require work to disprove; "It's all about the Oiiilll!")
5) invoke guilt whenever possible
6) divide & (hopefully) conquer
Very effective against PC-pussies.
The UK police authorities, the US military (formally authorizing proven asshats like CAIR & ISM sponsored Wahhabi-trained Mooslim Chaplains), the World "media" - this disease is rampant and very effective against the scattered beseiged clear-thinking non-PC remnants... who gather in self-defense of their sanity in the blogosphere at refuges like RantBurg. (Thx, again, Fred!)
You probably work with people who have learned this technique: stir up enough dust (controversy & distraction) so that nobody notices that they don't do dick. Look around you - you'll see them if the company is big enough to hide lamers. PC-ism has infiltrated everywhere and, of course, to point it out is "proof" of your intolerance. What a gig!
This is how the trolls, here and elsewhere, operate, as well...
-I know that's from some movie. That's a definite villian line. Just can't remember which movie. They should of said "and your little dog to" in a high-pitched squeaky voice while pummeling him.
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When Jesus was dying, they stood at the foot of the cross and said, "Where is your God, now?" And Jesus himself asked, "My God, why have you forsaken me?"
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I knew I'd heard it in a movie too, Jarhead. And it was one of the best villians, ever:
The 1956 swords-and-sandals epic The Ten Commandments has long since turned into a pillar of kitsch, but certain moments in the movie remain improbably vivid. One is the sneering query put by the slave master Edward G. Robinson to the humbled Israelite leader Charlton Heston: "Where is your God now, Moses?"
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Steve, thanx. As a semi-good practicing Catholic I've should've known that one.
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Anyone else remember the al'Qaeda training manual? One of the instructions was to claim you had been abused by the police if you're arrested.
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RC - Stand it on its head: Any suspect who attempts this should get an intense application of The Rubber Glove and be thoroughly investigated for terrorism links. If he's a mooslim, double everything. If they're gonna play victim and accuse you of it, you might as well get your goddamned money's worth. Just my $0.02.
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RC, where can I get a copy of said manual? Those Al-Q f*cks owe me copyright royalties. They took a page outta the jarhead playbook when I was a 15 yr old juvenile delinquent and well known by the local constabulary.
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Perhaps they are just looking for that guy Mohommed Al-Yourgod?
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Convicted IRA member Paul Hill ("In The Name of the Father") got his conviction for killing a British soldier overturned, saying his confession was coerced.
He later married a Kennedy and now knocks back pints with Uncle Teddy.
Maybe this shithead will someday marry a Kennedy, too, or just sleep with Andrew Cuomo's wife! Allah Akbar!
The police and members of the Muslim community have been quick to quash fears of terrorist activity among Muslims in Dudley following yesterday's arrests. One of the men arrested, Usman Choudhary, was the son of Dudley Mosque leader Ghulam Choudhary.
Comes as a surprise, doesn't it?
Dudley North police commander, chief superintendent Dennis Hodson, said the arrests under anti-terrorism legislation were not linked to those elsewhere in the country but were the result of an on-going local enquiry. He said: "Mr Choudhary and other prominent members of the Muslim community have given their full co-operation and re-affirmed their total abhorrence of terrorist activities."
"Who? Us? Oh, certainly not, infidel dog..."
Mr Hodson said he had worked with the Muslim community in Dudley for many years and said the majority were law-abiding. And he said in the current climate he urged residents to work together as this provides the greatest safeguard against people who want to disrupt our way of life. Khurshid Ahmed chairman of Dudley Muslim Association said members of the Muslim community were proud to be Muslims and citizens of the UK. He said: "We reject totally those who support terrorism and will counter it with determination. We assure the community there is no Mosque or individual who supports terrorism either financially or otherwise and if we find anyone who has links to such activities we will bring them to the notice of the relevant authorities." In total three men from Dudley were arrested.
And none of them, not one of them, is a supporter of terrorism. They're freedumb fighters. And don't forget it.
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We assure the community there is no Mosque or individual who supports terrorism either financially or otherwise ...thank you, thank you very much....anyone here from Birmingham?
Sometimes one does really wonder the European anti-terror standards, the European court of Justice fined Turkey with 12.500 Euro for convicting the ultra radical sect leader Müslüm Gündüz to two years of prison for inciting hatred and religious violence in private madrassas, on the verdict of acting against the freedom of speech!!!!!
Aczi-Mendi Group. Radical Islamic group. Founded by Müslüm Gündüz in Elazið in 1985. The meaning of Aczi-Mendi is the "Sect of the Helpless Servants of Allah". All the group's members dress in the same style, with black robes, turbans, and baggy trousers, and they carry sceptres. They hold their meetings in Elazið and in dervish lodges, which they have established in different cities. Dervish convents in Elazið, Gaziantep and Izmir have been closed by court order.
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Uh oh... Ethel, my pills! I agree with muRat. 12.5K Euros isn't much for a country, but it was obviously NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS since Turkey is NOT part of the EU. And only marginally part of Europe.
Funny, the word "dervish" in common American English usage must've lost 99% of its original connotation. Now I would say it generally conjurs up a colorful folkish visual of a man in a red fez, colorful vest, and white skirt-like bottom doing ballet-like spins where the head fixes on the same point with each rotation. Very touristy image. No turbans or sceptres or black robes - and certainly nothing Izzoid about it. Mebbe the Euros were confused, too, and thought you were picking on a folk-dancing troupe. Boy, that culture shit can really be confusing. ;-)
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"the European court of Justice fined Turkey with 12.500 Euro for convicting the ultra radical sect leader Müslüm Gündüz to two years of prison for inciting hatred and religious violence in private madrassas,"
Hmm... I admit I've not studied the case myself but this link I found here: http://www.turkishdailynews.com/old_editions/01_07_97/semih.htm
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"Muslum Gunduz was being sought for some time by the police after the Higher Court of Appeals upheld a previous two year prison conviction against him for defaming Ataturk."
There's a difference between conviction for "defaming" a historical figure, and conviction for incitement to hatred, isn't there?
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.com> "but it was obviously NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS since Turkey is NOT part of the EU."
Not so obviously, .com. Turkey is not a full member of the EU, but she does have association agreements with us -- I've not studied them in length but if accepting the decisions of the European Court is part of those agreements, then obviously it's "our business".
This is the European way of aiding human rights in neighbouring nations. Less drastic and less quick than bombing them to the stone age, but I believe that in the end it provides a more solid and more widespread progress, the slow and steady pressure of institutions like the European Court...
"Mebbe the Euros were confused, too, and thought you were picking on a folk-dancing troupe"
I'm not so sure they weren't. The link Murat provided says "Sometimes, the members of the Aczi-Mendi Group organise trips to the different cities by wearing their special costumes. " If that's the worst they have done, that they 'wear their special costumes'...
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"This is the European way of aiding human rights in neighbouring nations. Less drastic and less quick than bombing them to the stone age, but I believe that in the end it provides a more solid and more widespread progress,"
-Just like Kosovo. Wait a minute, my bad. I think the bombing thing was actually the right call on that one. Milosevic could've felt "the slow and steady pressure" by maybe 2017.......
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Jarhead> "Wait a minute, my bad. I think the bombing thing was actually the right call on that one. "
Occassionally bombing is the right thing to do.
But since I don't believe you are suggesting that the EU should bomb Turkey rather than just impose a fine on it, your comment remains irrelevant and idiotic. :-)
See, dear Jarhead, you can't bomb every country in the world. Even for America that still remains a last resort.
So unless your argument is that every human right violation in the world should just be ignored, until the nations in question become genocidal enough that they merit a bombing...
You talk about Milosevic? Let's also talk about the new Serbia-Montenegro and Croat leadership and all the war-criminals extradited from there.
You can't solve every problem with a sledgehammer.
A senior Muslim leader today warned that police raids across the country were creating a climate of fear among Muslim communities.
"Oh, hold me, Fatimah! I'm so frightened!"
Dr Mohammed Naseem, chairman of Birmingham's Central Mosque, said Muslims supported the arrest of terrorists but not harassment of innocent people. "We support what the police are doing, but not how they are doing it," said Dr Naseem.
"I mean, they're only going after Islamists. Have they arrested any Norwegians? No! Have they arrested any Samoans? No! Only us! They're pickin' on us, that's what it is!"
"When I first came to this country in the 1950s, the police were renowned for their politeness and behaviour, but now they bang down doors and raid the homes of innocent people without proper evidence. It is appalling and ruining strong relationships that have been formed between different ethnic groups. Muslims are not against taking action against terrorists as long as there is evidence. But some of these latest arrests have not discovered any proof of terrorist activity and that is what we are worried about.
"'Course, we're even more worried about the ones that have discovered proof..."
"Someone in the police has not been doing their homework properly and it results in a feeling of harassment and fear among innocent, hard-working Muslim families. That cannot be good for Britain, but only work towards us becoming a totalitarian state where people are afraid to air their views."
Kind of like what you'd have under a caliphate, huh?
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Lemme see,
***The people that crashed those jetliners into the Pentagon and World Trade Center were all Muslims, Check.
***Reid, the whacko that tried to blow up a jet with a shoe bomb, was a recent Muslim convert, Check.
***The car boomers that hit Turkey's synagogues, the British bank and consulate, were all Muslims, Check.
***The people that blew the hole in the USS Cole, attacked the US Embassies in Kenya and Uganda, and set off a bomb at an Israeli resort in Kenya were all Muslims, Check.
***Most of the boomers in Israel, including two that turned out to be British citizens, were Muslims, Check.
***Chechens that held hostages in Moscow, and who have set numerous mines and booby-traps for Russians from Moscow to Chechnya are all Muslims, Check.
Hmmm. Not a Noreweigan in the lot. No reason to look for Norweigans. Lots of Muslims, so of course, SMART people would be looking for future boomers to be Muslims. Until the Muslim community repudiates the goals, activities, and methods of these boomers, they can expect to be under close scrutiny.
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They're scared? GOOD!
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"creating a climate of fear among Muslim communities"
Proof that Kyoto deserved support! Evil Americans!
Whining. Later, seething. Facts don't matter, of course: this is victimology 101, tugging at the heart-strings and invoking a knee-jerk guilt response. Really - this is first rate stuff. Topnotch reporting and suckerism. Jolly well done.
I give it a "poor poor Mooslims" Rating of 7.5
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Dude, you guys are all wrong. It's the Irish. It's always us damn Irish. The Muslims are just our patsies, yeah, that's the ticket. (I should be careful, some muslim blogger will probably pick that one up and try to use it.)
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They remind me of that little Egyptian dude in The Mummy. When they are numerous they're all, "We are strong! We will crush you! The rivers will run with your blood!" and then when you get the upper hand on them, it's "Please, don't keel poor little Abu. I must care for my forty-two children. Pleeeease?" Dishonorable, backstabbing f*cks.
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BH, it's just the leaders and smart ones who act like that. Which is a minority among Muslims.
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Washington lead sniper Johnny Muhammad might be a Nation of Islam guy. If so, he thinks he's a Muslim but most of the other turbans wouldn't. The reports of his links to al-Furqua sound like speculation.
Mohammad may have been working on Lee Malvo to take up a Koran, but so far the kid sounds like a dumbass following a father figure around and agreeing that it would be good to shoot random people. If there was evidence he had become a Muslim, I expect the Washington Times would have found out by now.
A young unemployed man faces a possible life sentence for planning a terrorist act after becoming the first person charged under the nationâs new counter-terrorism laws. Zak Mallah, 20, appeared briefly in Bankstown Local Court yesterday amid intense security after Federal Police and ASIO raided his Condell Park home just after midnight yesterday, allegedly seizing videotapes. Mallah had been arrested earlier, at about 6pm, during a stake out by undercover officers in Wattawa Reserve, Condell Park. Police say he was armed. Before his appearance, at 10.40am, police in combat gear had been deployed around the courthouse and everyone entering the court building was electronically screened. Mallah, a former supermarket packer, wore a yellow and black tracksuit top, grey tracksuit pants and sneakers.
No turban? The poor guy can't even afford a turban? Tusk tusk.
It is understood that Mr Houda will ask for a psychiatric examination of Mallah before his next court appearance amid fears for his mental health.
"You can't put my client on trial, y'r honor! He's a lunatic!"
Mallah, also known as Zekky Mallah, faces a potential life sentence if convicted. Mr Scipione said NSW Counter Terrorism Command officers, working with Federal Police and ASIO, had raided the house, in Ainslie Place, but had found no weapons during an extensive search. Police had seized several items, including videotapes, but Mr Scipione said he did not know what was on the tapes.
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Zekky Mallah... Hmmm. So, be he digger or be he mooslim?
Keysar Trad, a director of the Lebanese Muslim Association, said outside the court that he had spoken to Mallah by phone on Wednesday night.
"I have been providing counselling for him over the last few weeks," Mr Trad said.
"Personally, I don't think he is a threat. He has not been a regular at the mosque at Lakemba. But since we started counselling we have tried to bring him to the mosque. He will require spiritual assistance."
"It has been reported that he might be a threat to another country," he said. "I would rather reserve comment on that."
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"We hadn't given him his assignment, yet, the stoopid little poofta! We'll have to council him on his statement to the infidel police spirituality."
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Former French president Valery Giscard dâEstaing, who oversaw the power grab drafting of a European Union constitution, warned on Friday against attempts to redraw the charter, saying it would be better to have no deal than a bad one. Works for me.
He spoke as EU leaders prepare for a crucial summit next week to finalise the constitution, meant to ensure the bloc can function effectively after it expands eastwards from 15 to 25 members next May and its population swells to 450 million. "We would very much like to see the constitution adopted, but letâs be clear about this, we would rather do without a constitution than have one that does not favor France a bad one," he told European Parliamentarians and deputies from member states. Giscard warned some EU governments were trying to undo the work of the convention he headed and which drafted the treaty. "History teaches us that bad constitutions, those which are felt to be unjust or ineffective by the citizens to whom they apply, lead to revolutions or rebellion," he added. "In this particular case I donât think there will be any barricades being thrown up, but I do think we would see the gradual falling apart of the European Union," he said. He says this like itâs a bad thing.
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His quote should be "we would rather do without a constitution than have one that I didn't write myself."
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Former French president Valery Giscard dâEstaing, who oversaw the power grab drafting of a European Union constitution, warned on Friday against attempts to redraw the charter, saying it would be better to have no deal than a bad one.
Calling potential changes to the current charter bad without any specifics on what the changes would be and why they would really be "bad" sounds suspiciously like he simply wants things done his way.
From a commentary in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung. A harbinger of things to come?
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Europe will not progress if Germany and France do not join forces. This is an old piece of wisdom, but we now have evidence that Europe not only fails to progress, but actually goes backward when Germany and France are (too much) in agreement. The willful dismantling of the euro zoneâs stability and growth pact is only one link in a long chain of arbitrary acts of the two nations vis-Ã -vis the European Commission and the smaller member states of the European Union.
The self-professed world power France has traditionally shown little respect toward smaller partner countries, but has insisted on the major countriesâ privilege to determine the future of Europe. It is a centuries-old French tradition. Germany, in turn, has been wise enough in recent decades to drop this strategy and foster partnerships with the smaller EU countries. This era, however, seems to be over. The occasional penchant toward Teutonic megalomania probably arises out of the chancellorâs fateful conviction that his defiant rhetoric - which may please his Social Democratic Party - is the right tone in international politics.
Desire and reality are also a world apart when Paris and Berlin talk about European defense. Of course, there is a need for a reform of military procurement, a reorganization of parts of the military industry and a modernization of the armed forces. But the vision of such a Europe, which has emancipated itself from Washington, seems to be a far cry from reality over the long term: Nearly half of the French weapons arsenal is decrepit, and things look hardly any better in Germany.
Credible international policy starts at home. As the major brakes on a European economic recovery, Germany and France owe their partners a change of policy. In Germany, at least, a lively debate has started over the modernization of labor markets, tax systems and social welfare models. Franceâs political elite, in turn, headed by an increasingly detached state president, remains locked in tradition, although a majority of the population has apparently realized that change is needed.
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"The self-professed world power France has traditionally shown little respect toward smaller partner countries"
Come to think of it, whom does France show respect toward?
GUL: âTURKEY WILL CONTRIBUTE THREE HELICOPTERS TO THE AFGHAN PEACEKEEPING FORCEâ
Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul, who is currently in Brussels to attend the NATO foreign ministersâ fall meetings, said yesterday that Turkey had decided to contribute three Black Hawk helicopters to the International Security and Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan, adding that they would be used for humanitarian aid, not military attacks. One diplomat at the meetings said the copters would be crucial in helping to fill a key gap in NATOâs mission in the country. Thanks, theyâll be useful
GONUL, TOP US GENERAL REACH CONSENSUS ON ANTI-TERROR EFFORTS
US Joint Chiefs of Staff Deputy Chairman Gen. Peter Pace, who is currently in Ankara for an official visit, yesterday met with Defense Minister Vecdi Gonul. During their talks, Gonul and Pace reached a broad consensus on cooperation to fight terrorist groups and how best to wage this effort. Speaking afterwards, Pace reiterated that PKK/KADEK was a terrorist organization even it had changed its name, adding that the US would continue to seek new ways to fight terrorist groups. âWe recognize that the PKK is one of Turkeyâs most pressing problems,â added the top general. For his part, Gonul said that trade, diplomatic and military ties between Ankara and Washington were very important.
25 Persons Arrested In Connection With Bombed Attacks
Istanbul Security Directorate said on Thursday that 25 of the 163 persons who were detained in connection with the four separate bomb attacks in Istanbul were arrested. Issuing a written statement, Istanbul police said that they only received information from 50 persons including five women, and 138 suspects were released after being interrogated. Istanbul State Security Court (DGM) arrested 25 persons including two women following their interrogation.
ANKARA DGM ARRESTS HILMI TUGLUOGLU LINKING WITH ATTACKS IN ISTANBUL
Ankara State Security Court (DGM) arrested on Thursday Hilmi Tugluoglu as he had connection with the attacks in Istanbul.
Tugluoglu was transferred to Ankara DGM after his interrogation at Ankara Security. DGM arrested Tugluoglu on charges of aiding and abetting illegal organization. Tugluogluâs wife Leyla Tugluoglu was released. Oh, welcome back, Murat. Have you heard any new information on the investigation?
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Three choppers? My, what high rollers they are...
Looks like somebody is finally acting on that info on the Golden Chain recovered in Bosnia over a year ago that said that, contra to media reports, that the Bin Laden Group was shilling out cash for everybodyâs favorite Dr. Fu Manchu.
Swiss police have raided eight firms with links to Yeslam Binladin, the half-brother of Osama Bin Laden, as part of a money laundering probe. Binladinâs Geneva mouthpiece lawyer, Pierre de Preux, was quoted as saying that the federal authorities had been given all the documents they requested during the raids. Police swooped on nine firms linked to Binladin on Wednesday, including the Geneva-based Saudi Investment Company, which he liquidated in 1998. They also searched four homes, but it was not clear whether any of these belonged to Binladin. Binladinâs lawyer said his client was "pleased" about the investigation. "It will prove that he has nothing to hide." HansjÃŒrg Mark Wiedmer, a spokesman for the Federal Prosecutorâs office, told swissinfo the raids were the result of a request for judicial assistance from French authorities earlier this month. âTheyâve been leading a criminal investigation because of the suspicion of money laundering and theyâve been asking us for judicial assistance,â Wiedmer said. He added that the premises searched were in cantons Bern, Geneva, Zug and Zurich. French justice authorities in Paris refused to comment about the investigation.
Why should they? The investigations are in Switzerland...
French police last week raided Binladinâs Riviera home in Cannes, but no details of the probe have been made public.
Ahhh... Maybe that's why...
A Swiss citizen who spells his name differently to his notorious brother, Binladin also owns a home in Geneva where his investment banking business is headquartered. Both cantonal and federal police were involved in the raids. French judicial authorities made their Swiss request on March 18, Wiedmer said.
They just do things at lightning speed over there, don't they? Must be that vaunted Swiss efficiency...
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No wonder they didn't want to extradite that Terrorist who fled Turkey after the blasts there.
He was their best customer!
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The blood that drips out of numbered accounts. Switzerland, the land of chocolate and money laundering. They live in the high mountains and breath the fresh air. Oh and I hear they are a peacefull poeple and are anti-war. Oh my how impressed I am of the Swiss. Elitist assholes, yea I bet they get real tough on bin.
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Yeslam Binladin has brought suit in Switzerland against the authors of "Forbidden Fruit", a book that ostensibly ties him to his half brother, Osama. The suit may now be lost, and if anything is found on Yeslam his days are numbered in Switzerland. Although he has lived there for twenty years he was only issued a Swiss passport in 2001.
The Swiss authorities have frozen all the financial accounts belonging to a Lugano-based company suspected of funnelling funds to terrorists. The Federal Prosecutorâs Office on Thursday confirmed it had ordered the accounts of the Nada Management Organisation blocked on suspicion that the firm had possible links to the September 11 attacks. No details were given about the amounts frozen or the banks concerned.
The move comes after the United States asked Switzerland, Italy, Liechtenstein and the Bahamas to block all assets belonging to the Nada Management Organisation, which was previously known as al-Taqwa. Two of the companyâs bosses were detained by police for questioning in Lugano on Wednesday, as part of a coordinated operation by Switzerland, Italy and Liechtenstein. Youssef Mustafa Nada and Ali Ghaleb Himmat were taken into custody after Italian police raided their homes on Wednesday in Campione DâItalia, a tiny Italian enclave in Switzerland, surrounded by canton Ticino. They were later released. Another Nada official, Ahmed Huber, was questioned about al-Taqwaâs activities by Swiss officials in Bern before being released.
The Swiss federal prosecutor, Valentin Roschacher, said the investigation was likely to take several months.
It's been two years, y'know...
âWe now have enough information to open an inquiry. We seized a lot of documentation on Wednesday, some of which is in Arabic, and it will take a long time to follow the paper trail.â
I can well believe that. It's certainly taken a long time to get started...
But he added that the authorities did not have enough evidence to make any arrests. The US authorities say al-Taqwa is one of several informal cash exchanges â known as âhawalasâ â which funnel millions of dollars to terrorists outside the traditional banking system. Investigators suspect that hawalas also help terrorists acquire material and supplies by acting as front organisations. They believe bin Laden has made use of them to acquire and distribute funds.
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On the cover of a tabloid at the checkout line of the supermarket this evening, I saw a picture of Binny and Sammy piroeting in tights and tutu, as well as playing the banjo like minstrels. Needless to say, I was shocked.....and awed....I never knew!
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The government has pledged to send 150 special-forces troops to assist in NATO operations in Afghanistan, Defense Ministry Spokesman Ladislav Sticha confirmed Dec. 2. If the mission receives approval from Parliament, the troops will join in the hunt for Taliban and al-Qaida forces as part of the U.S.-led Operation Enduring Freedom coalition. Karel Kovanda, the countryâs ambassador to NATO, extended the offer at a Dec. 1 meeting in Brussels, and the government is expected to make a final decision on the plan by January. The government had offered to send troops to the region last year, but later scrapped the plan after officials discovered that a special anti-terrorist unit from Prostejov, south Moravia, was not up to the task. NATO Secretary General George Robertson, who has been pushing members to contribute to the NATO effort in Afghanistan, reportedly welcomed the Czech governmentâs pledge. Spain, Germany, Norway, Turkey and the Netherlands have also offered to send troops to the region. NATO has considered assuming control of operations in Afghanistan from the United States, but the move has been hampered by a lack of equipment and personnel.
Okay. The problem's identified. It seems the Czechs have been working on fixing their part of it...
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"NATO has considered assuming control of operations in Afghanistan from the United States, but the move has been hampered by a lack of equipment and personnel."
-WTF? I've never been stationed in the ETO so am wondering just how dilapidated our NATO allies military capabilities have become. Not enough personnel? You gotta be kidding me.
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Jarhead - European nations, with the notable exception of Britain and the Danes, have relied almost exclusively on the United States protecting them. The Germans haven't added any new tanks since the Leopard, which is now almost thirty years old. More than half the European military are now unionized. You can guess how well that works. Most believed that, with the collapse of the Soviet Union, there were no more enemies, and they could use their defense budgets for social programs. I'm constantly reminded of something Robert Heinlein said (paraphrased) in Starship Troopers: "Those that 'ain't gonna study war no more' will soon be the slaves of someone who does."
The more the Europeans become "sophisticated and erudite", the stoopider they behave.
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OP, not much of an organization w/the big three and the little twelve or whatever they have now.
Good Heinlein reference. Great book, shitty movie. Chesty Puller once said something similar about being constantly vigilant and always training, or be prepared when the time comes that we are taken over and bred out by a more hearty race.
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JH where was that C Puller theory/thing from...? Sure sounds like him. Every time I'm in a certain bar in Ft. Lauderdale I have to buy beer for a one eyed man who claims he was Chester's personal bodyguard... who knows.
A suspected senior member of the armed Basque separatist movement ETA was arrested in south-west France on Thursday, one year after he escaped from police custody. Police said Ivon Fernandez Iradi was arrested as he was about to get into a car along with another man in the city of Bayonne. The two, who were armed, did not resist arrest. Fernandez Iradi had been sought by police since he escaped from custody in Bayonne on December 22, 2002 by squeezing out through his cell's skylight window.
I think I'd make sure he eats custard pie every day while he's in jug this time...
The suspect is accused of being a member of ETA's so-called Buruntza, or Donosti cell, and of seriously wounding a French police officer in November 2001.
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Ladies and Gentlemen, the Queen of the Fifth Column, "Hanoi Jane" speaks, and speaks, and speaks. Just a taste:
Itâs possible that the extreme, neo-conservative version of Patriarchy which makes up our current Executive branch will over-play its hand and cause the house of cards to collapse. We know that this new "preventive war" doctrine will put us on a permanent war footing. We know there canât be guns and butter, right? We learned that with Vietnam. We know that a Pandoraâs box has been opened in the Middle East and that the administration is not prepared for the complexities that are emerging. We know that friends are becoming foes and angry young Muslims with no connection to Al Qaeda are becoming terrorists in greater numbers. We know that with the new tax plan the rich will be better off and the rest will be poorer. We know what happens when poor young men and women can only get jobs by joining the military and what happens when they come home and discover that the day after Congress passed the "Support Our Troops" Resolution, $25 billion was cut from the VA budget. We know that already, families of servicemen have to go on welfare and are angry about it. And we know how much Jane cares about our troops, even going to the front and posing for pictures with them...oh, wait, those were North Vietnamese troops, sorry.
Thatâs why V-Day, The White House Project and their many allies are partnering to hold a national womenâs convention somewhere in the heartland, next June of 2004. Its purpose will be to inspire and mobilize women and vagina-friendly men around the 2004 elections and to build a new movement that will coalesce our energies and forces around a politic of caring. I enjoy being friendly to vaginas, am I invited?
The convention will put forward a fresh, clear, and concise platform of issues, and build the spirit, energy and power base to hold the candidates accountable for them. There will be a diversity of women from across the country who will participate in the mobilization. There will be a special focus on involving young women. There will be a variety of performers and artists acknowledging that culture plays a powerful role in political action. Donât forget the puppets!
There will be a concurrent Internet mobilization. Womenâs organizations will be asked to sign on and send representatives to the convention. There will be a caravan, a rolling tour across the country, of diverse women leaders, celebrities and activists who will work with local organizers to build momentum, sign people up, register them to vote, get them organized and leave behind a tool kit for further mobilization through the election and beyond. More buses.
This movement will be a volcano that will erupt in a flow of soft, hot, empathic, breathing, authentic, vagina-friendly, relational lava that will encircle patriarchy and smother it. I need to go take a shower.
We will be the flood and weâll be Noahâs arc. "V" for Vagina, for vote, for victory. "V" for Vacuous: 1: emptied of or lacking content. 2: marked by lack of ideas or intelligence: STUPID, INANE. 3: devoid of serious occupation: IDLE
Bravo! Hurrah! ***Clap! Clap! Clap!*** Excellent rant using neo-KCNA imagery. It's got Pandora's Boxâ¢, the House of Cardsâ¢, servicemen's families on welfareâ¢, and all the lessons "we" learned from Vietnamâ¢. I give it a 9.5. If Jane ever runs low on funds she can surely find a position writing editorials for Rodong Sinmun.
Holding a conference in The Heartland⢠(aka Flyover Country) is an excellent idea. It establishes the homey roots of Ms. Fonda and her accomplices. No doubt Terre Haute will welcome them with open arms, feeding them pork cutlets as the slack-jawed locals abandon their John Deeres to lap up the words of wisdom from their betters. Raising the Revolutionary Consciousness⢠of the corn-fed masses is one of those things that all good has-been movie stars whose bosoms now resemble empty paper bags acknowledge is essentential for the overthrow of the Fascist State⢠and its permanent war footingâ¢.
V-Day is the feminist replacement for St. Valentine's day. Rather than expend all that time, energy and money on the mawkish and counterrevolutionary exchange of cards and gifts with members of the opposite sex, it's much better to inspire and mobilize vagina-friendly men around the 2004 elections, which are, of course, of much more import than merely trying to get friendly with a particular vagina. The fact that there will be a diversity of women from across the country who will participate in the mobilization is really neat. There's gonna be big ones, little ones, short ones, tall ones, fat ones, skinny ones, all chanting in unison, all echoing the same slogans. You can't get more diverse than that, can you? Can you?
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"This movement will be a volcano that will erupt in a flow of soft, hot, empathic, breathing, authentic, vagina-friendly, relational lava that will encircle patriarchy and smother it."
Jeez, when you put it that way... SIGN ME UP!!! Smother my patriarchy, baby! Smother it!
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"This movement will be a volcano that will erupt in a flow of soft, hot, empathic, breathing, authentic, vagina-friendly, relational lava that will encircle patriarchy and smother it."
-I didn't know ole' Hanoi J read Penthouse Forum as well.......
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We know that a Pandoraâs box has been opened in the Middle East...
Oh, was that the name of the children's prison?
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Hot wet friendly vaginas smothered in lava juche?
Holy moherf**k! Where the hell do we sign up?
Ol' Jane knows the truth: myns are wired this way. We do everything we do to get laid. Every. Thing. She musta done that Klute gig hard 'n heavy (and hard again) before she hooked up on Ted's Billion-dollar Bandwagon. She knows what the Pros knows...
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"There will be a special focus on involving young women."
- That's been my focus for years, they should bring me in as a consultant.
'First thing Jane, loved Barbarella, bold political statement there. Made me hard like Chinese Algebra. Uh I mean think hard, like Chinese Algebra. Second thing, the trick is to ply them with flattery and drinks. You know get them warmed up and in the mood.'
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Read the whole article! It gets better, for example, "the Male Belief System, that compartmentalized, hierarchical, ejaculatory, andocentric power structure that is Patriarchy, is fatal to the hearts of men, to empathy and relationship."
Did she go back to Wellesley for a refresher course on "Man-hating for Harpies 101" or something?
When I read tripe like this about the ejaculatory Male Belief System supporting the Patriarchy, it really gets to me... I stiffen and the pressure just builds up, and I start to sweat and breathe hard and shudder, and I know it will have to end in an explosive climax.
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vagina-friendly men
Guess that excludes gay men...
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I remember hearing a while back that she'd become an Evangelical. Guess the graft didn't take . . . .
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I make it a point to NEVER read anything Hanoi Jane writes, says, or to see any of her movies. Why encourage a lunatic??? Hanoi Jane should be forcefully converted to Islam in Iran. She'd look better in a burqua.
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If this article doesn't hold the #1 spot on the blogdex for about a phreakin' year, you'll know that sucker's as rigged as an Arab "election."
Former -- I emailed the URL to about 40 people - and enjoyed retyping my opening question above as the Subject Line. Wonder how many will have some sort of spam detection software that'll flag it? Their loss. Heh, heh. Way funny werld. :-)
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You know, in the coming War of the Sexes, the battle-cry "V for Vagina" may actually work. Think about it: The warring sides are lined up, ready to do battle, barrel-chasted he-men on one side, chicks and vagina-friendly men on the other. On an unspoken cue, war is engaged! He-men begin punching the living crap out of the whispy metrosexuals, who can only mope and be sensitive. It looks like an easy victory. But wait! Suddenly the he-men hear the cry "V for Vagina!"
"Huh huh!" says one he-man, conditioned by years of enslavement under patriarchal domination. "She said vagina!"
The entire column of he-men can no longer fight - they are too bsy peeing their pants unable to control themselves because they can't stop laughing.
There is one he-man who tries to rally the troops. "I'll win 'em back with a bad joke," he thinks. "Hey!" he cries. "Let's make MINCE-meat outta these guys!"
His forced pun stops the laughter cold, but hearty guffaws are replaced by soul-wrenching groans - the hellish sound previously only heard at Carrot Top recitals.
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Some people would say that Jane Fonda is a traitor to the United States. I would say that she is a complice in war crimes and crimes againts humankind
I would like that wh..e being indicted for war crimes against the Vietnamese and Cmabodian people. By contributing to sap US morale, by contributing tp persuade the North Vietnamese leadership that US will to fight was waning at one moment they were on the verge of throwingf the twoel she contributed to the bruatl murder of milions of Vienamese and Cambodians.
Jane Fonda is a war criminal and deserves to be treated like one.
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Required reading for all anti-patriarchy vagina nuts: "Why Men Rule," by Steven Goldberg.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0812692373/qid=1070656536/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-0667471-7011052?v=glance&s=books
I give the rant a 6.4. Its too obvious that Jane still feels pretty bad about not being born with a di**. But the 'V for Vagina' is worth at least 3 points!
As for Hanoi Jane. Can we please ship this bitch to North Korea or her good buddies in Vietnam or something? What the fu*k is she doing here?
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Hours after first seeing this item, I'm still shaking my head in wonder at the sheer brainlessness of this "vagina-friendly, relational lava" idea of hers; she sounds like Andrea Dworkin in the throes of a PCP overdose.
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We must realize that this puts on a whole new meaning for V-J Day.
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Vagina Fever! Catch it!!...and tell them Jane sent you!
A powerful tribal rebel group in India âs turbulent northeast will be disbanded this weekend, with some 2,500 militants surrendering before the authorities in Assam. Assam Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi said all the militants belonging to the Bodo Liberation Tigers (BLT) would lay down weapons on Saturday in the western district of Kokrajhar. The decision to disband the militant BLT follows a peace pact signed in February between the rebel leadership and New Delhi.
Yow! Didja see that surprise meter needle jump! That sucker pegged! And all this time, I thought... you know.
The BLT, unlike other guerrilla groups in Assam , was not fighting for secession but a homeland for the ethnic Bodo tribe within the Indian union.
Could we say the BLT is toast?
The peace accord would provide more autonomy for the tribal Bodos who constitute about 1.6 million of Assam âs 26 million people. The BLT was formed in 1996 and its cadres were known for their expertise in explosives, having blown up several trains. At least 2,000 people lost their lives in the BLTâs violent campaign for statehood. The former BLT rebels are now worried over threats from another rival militant group — the outlawed National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB). The NDFB, waging a bush war for an independent tribal homeland for the Bodos since the past two decades, has been targeting BLT cadres for signing a peace accord with the government.
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BLT (oooh, that's just ripe!) turns into the BLP... Go ahead. Guess.
And here I thought the bodo was extinct. *drum roll* With the NDFB, which has not opted to become the NDFP (ripe, ripe, ripe!), the bodo might get the chance. Since the past two decades, less no. Hint: avoid taking the train.
Twelve more people were killed in Held Kashmir, police said. Two militants and an Indian army soldier were killed in a fierce encounter in the southern village of Kharpora overnight, police said. The fighting erupted during a search by the army. Indian troops shot dead three more militants in the Beholi village of Doda late Tuesday during a three-hour gun battle, the spokesman said. Two more militants were shot dead in the village of Khaipora overnight in northern Kupwara district, police said. A Muslim woman caught in the cross-fire also died. Suspected militants shot dead a former colleague in the southern Pulwama district, while a member of Ikhwan â a group formed by former militants to help Indian troops battle anti-Indian militants â was killed in the central Kashmir district of Budgam, the spokesman said.
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Against Allama Tahirul Qadri
Daily Insaf carried an article written by an ex-member of the Central Supreme Council of Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT) that severely criticised the PAT founder Allama Tahirul Qadri. According to the article, Qadri saw a dream promising him victory in the 2002 elections. Workers all over the world sold their precious belongings to collect funds for Allamaâs election but all the money disappeared without the party doing well at the polls. Objections to the leader which had mounted in the past became intense and when some activists tried to complain at a meeting Allama Sahib dismissed it by saying that there was a 180 degrees difference between his thinking and the thinking of his followers. The dream of 2000 that Allama saw promised domination of Pakistan followed by world domination, but nothing came of it. Then in 2003 once again the party convention was told that a dream had made it clear to the Allama that an army of the Mehdi was ready and that PAT had become a part of it. The Allama had lost the scholarly following because of objections to Allamaâs personal conduct. Even now the leader was in the habit of threatening dismissal from the party at the smallest excuse. Billions of rupees of PAT were unaccounted for and the Allama was living a life of luxury.
Nargis arrested in Gujranwala
According to Jang and Khabrain famous dancer Nargis was arrested along with other artistes in a Gujranwala theatre while dancing in front of a local audience. The police alleged that she was scantily dressed and delivering obscene dialogue while she asserted that she was just singing with in gestures. Later a local court let her off on bail but she went right back and started singing the theatre saying her sister Didar too would perform at the theatre. Gujranwala is currently feverish with morality on the part of the magistracy. Nargis had gone to Gujranwala with ten gunmen to avoid being molested by the clergy. The Gujranwala obscenity hunt had begun with the arrest of Nargis some time ago. According to daily Pakistan, Nargis said she was not an ordinary dancer but a representative of Pakistani culture. A doctor confirmed that she had suffered scratches during arrest. Nargis was quoted in Jang and Nawa-e-Waqt as saying that government should have a consistent policy regarding theatre activities. If she was allowed movement in Lahore, why was it considered illegal in Gujranwala? She said she could not perform on the stage while wearing a burqa.
Naked âmalangâ at the High Court
According to Insaf, a nanga malang (naked fakir) walked into the court of Justice Muzammil and demanded that he be allowed to sit in the august seat of the honourable judge. According to daily Pakistan he attempted playing with the reader of the judge (kharmastian) in his nakedness. Because of his state of complete frontal nudity (nang dharang) the staff of the High Court were shocked. Keeping their eyes averted from the spectacle of the malangâs nudity they tried to push him out, but he began wrestling with them. Justice was to be not only blind but also naked. Finally he was pushed out of the premises with great collective effort.
Suicide bombing is jihad
According to Jang, Justice (Retd) Javid Iqbal said at a seminar in Lahore that Pakistan and the Islamic world should declare that suicide-bombing against the West was actually jihad. It was America that was doing terrorism and not the suicide-bombers, he said. However other speakers did not agree. Said Hamid said that killing innocent people was not jihad and could not declared as such. Dr Kazimi said that Muslims had isolated themselves in the world by adopting extremism. He said non-state actors could not wage jihad.
Jihad means killing
Leader of he banned Jaish Muhammad, Maulana Masood Azhar, was quoted by Nawa-e-Waqt as saying that in Islam the only meaning of jihad was killing, and those who projected the concepts of jihad akbar and jihad asghar were against Islam. (Jihad Akbar is supposed to be non-violent while jihad asghar is supposed to be the war by the sword.) He said it was a conspiracy against Islam to say that jihad was not killing. He was speaking at the Pattoki gathering of the banned Lashkar-e-Tayba.
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Paul - to facilitate snarkiness, please number the articles! Heh.
Article #2: "famous dancer Nargis"
Is this the same chick that started the gunbattle at a dance show reported a coupla weeks ago? Cheeky, if so. But she's definitely cheeky for going back to Gujranwala where she had trouble before. Asking such a logical question as, "If she was allowed movement in Lahore, why was it considered illegal in Gujranwala?" she demonstrates she is tainted, an evil infidel at heart. When it is reported that she had "gone to Gujranwala with ten gunmen to avoid being molested by the clergy" - what are we to assume she means? "She said she could not perform on the stage while wearing a burqa."
F'in Duh, babe.
What a trip. Pakiwackiland - it's like a whole 'nuther planet.
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Workers all over the world sold their precious belongings to collect funds for Allamaâs election but all the money disappeared without the party doing well at the polls.
Allama's a Democratic Party member, it seems.
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Experts involved in operations against Islamic militants and sectarian terrorists have suggested that the government should set up a separate jail for hardcore militants of banned outfits.
What an original idea...
They want to establish at least one prison in each of the four provinces where such elements could be kept under the watch of professional jailers. âWe need to make special arrangements to keep these elements separate from other inmates,â one of the few investigating officers in the Sindh Police, who has been attacked a number of times by militants of the banned organisations, told TFT. He says jihadi and sectarian militants have long memories and carry out revenge killings whenever they find an opportunity and that âour normal jails offer such opportunities in abundance.â
I imagine they're also continually on the hunt for like-minded souls among the run-of-the-mill crooks and hard boyz filling Pakistan's jails...
Sources in the interior ministry in Islamabad say due to certain âdisturbing factsâ the central government is seriously contemplating the matter. During an operation to track down Al Qaeda operatives in Pakistan last year, FBI and CIA officials while monitoring and scanning air and satellite signals detected some unusual signals from a Pakistani city. After intercepting the message, the cell started tracking down the place from where the coded call had been made via a satellite phone. The Americans passed on the information to their Pakistani counterparts who found that the signals were emanating from a prison.
I am so surprised... Tap... Tap... At least I think I am.
The prison authorities discovered that some jihadis were using a phone in their barracks. According to sources, using a mobile or satellite phone inside a Pakistani jail is not a big deal. âIt is a routine matter. I have raided various jails in my province and each time we recovered mobile phones from one prisoner or the other,â Maher says. However, he would not specify whether these prisoners included jihadi militants or not.
Uhhh... Lemme guess.
âWe are living in an era of communication technology and it is easy to get hold of such devices inside the jail because of corrupt officialsâ. Corruption is a major problem in Pakistan jails. There have been various incidents in which imprisoned hardened criminals were caught with weapons and liquor in their possession. In one of the ugliest incidents that has come to light so far, imprisoned criminals were found with 50 juvenile prisoners in Hyderabed jail. The children had been provided to the inmates with the connivance of the prison caretakers.
"We call this wing of the jail the Buggery Club..."
Sources say the investigators have found clues leading them to believe that sectarian killings were masterminded by hardcore terrorists in the custody of the authorities. Insiders say the jihadis and sectarian militants have arranged to be held in one barracks where they hold meetings that are out of bounds for jail officials. âIn such a situation everything is possible because the jail supervisors are not professionals,â a source said.
They've got amateur prison guards? Sometimes foreign cultures are so... foreign.
TFT has also learnt that the government has ordered that jail officials be thoroughly checked to ensure that they do not have any past or present links with sectarian or religious outfits. These orders have been issued after it came to light that authorities busted some law enforcement officials with connections to jihadi organisations. An inspector of the paramilitary Rangers and an employee of the Pakistan Navyâs Fire Brigade were arrested last year for their alleged involvement in two plots to kill General Pervez Musharraf while he was campaigning for the referendum.
Yeah. I think something like that'd make me suspicious, too. And they hopped right on it, didn't they? That was only a year ago...
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Experts involved in operations against Islamic militants and sectarian terrorists have suggested that the government should set up a separate jail for hardcore militants of banned outfits.
These are the types that are the most resistant to interrogation, no? If that's the case, the solution is simple. Shoot 'em. No sense in keeping them alive on the taxpayer's dime if nothing can be gained from doing so.
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I think all KNOWN terrorists should be injected with flesh-eating bacteria. Unfortunately, I doubt that even flesh-eating bacteria would stoop that low. Would make an interesting experiment, though. Maybe we need to contact the RAND corporation.
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Sheila Dikshit won a second term as Delhi chief minister, carrying the weight of the lone victory her Congress party could claim in four heartland states. For Dikshit, 65, the urbane and amiable grandmother who defied the anti-incumbency sentiments that set her party back in Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan and Chhattisgarh, it was a lonely celebration but a big won nevertheless.
Hell, I'd have voted for her just based on her name, too...
Touted as an outsider by her rivals both within the party and in the BJP, the silver-haired housewife-turned-politician proved that she was here to stay. âI must say I had some doubts earlier whether we could do so well, but now I am relieved and happy,â she said as garlands, flowers and sweets poured in at her New Delhi residence.
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Vote Sheila Dikshit! She's tough! She's strong! She knows what to do with men who get in her way! Sheila Dikshit, She's no Dipshi@
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I have a friend that hired someone at his company that has the same name. Supposedly its like Smith here in America. Think of it this way if he/she really is a dikshit you could call them it to their face. I just think it's funny you could yell across the room at work, "Hey Dikshit" and be talking to more than just the person whose name is Dikshit or someone you think is a Dikshit.
Dear reader, treasure your mom... because she has to be a better one than this lady...
A nutcase mom peace activist accused the U.S. military on Friday of depriving her of the chance to visit her soldier daughter, telling her that the truck driver was on a mission. Geez, Mom, donât bother me at work!!!
But Lieutenant Colonel William MacDonald, spokesman for the U.S. 4th Infantry Division in Tikrit, said he was trying to organize a meeting for Saturday. "Her daughter keeps refusing to come to the meetings..." Anabel Valencia said she had informed U.S. military officials that she would be at the gates of the base at noon to see 24-year-old Giselle. She arrived only to discover that her daughter had requested a been sent on a mission to Baghdad or anyplace else far from her mother. "I have not seen her in three years, I donât know why they are doing this," said Valencia, standing outside a sprawling U.S. military base in Saddam Husseinâs hometown. Because youâre an annoying pest, who makes Joan Crawford look like Mother-of-the-Year?
"The last time we spoke she said âI miss you and my father and sister. I want to come home for Christmas but I have to finish my missionâ." Never suspecting the real reason sheâs been using this excuse for three years...
"I feel so bad. I am insane sad," said Valencia, who was accompanied by Medea Benjamin of Global Exchange, an anti-war human rights group. Several parents of Americans serving in Iraq have come to the country to visit their children, including ones that were killed in the war that toppled Saddam. The parents were killed in the war, or the children? Not clearly written...
If the children who were killed, did the parents come before or after their demise? If before, have we investigated throroughly?
Their presence just outside the military complex clearly made U.S. troops nervous. , especially the troops who see their parents in the crowd
One arrived with a sniffer dog and firmly told Valencia to keep a distance from the main checkpoint. "Lady, my dog doesnât like the way you smell..."
"Can I talk to her?" Valencia asked before being told that Giselle had been sent on a mission to Baghdad, where her brother is also serving in the U.S. Army. No...
Valencia and her party were told that Giselle would be back at five oâclock. But MacDonald contradicted that claim. "This mission has been scheduled for quite a while and you know she is a soldier. She is out performing her duty," he said. He explained patiently to the mother, rolling his eyes at her stupidity.
One soldier stood by and reminded everyone that "this is a war and soldiers are sent on missions." "Do you need me to use smaller words and speak more slowly?"
Giselle had spoken to her mother highly of her tour of duty in Iraq. No word on how she spoke to her tour of duty about her mother, though...
When a group of U.S.-trained Iraqi policemen showed up, American soldiers loaded their weapons. But were uncertain about who the bigger enemy was...
"The Americans asked us to come here to stop the demonstration," said Iraqi policeman Mohanan Taha. Asked if protests were illegal in the new Iraq, he told reporters: "There are no human rights under the Americans. Nothing. It is all empty talk." Mohanan needs to take the refresher course in "Americans", I think...
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"There are no human rights under the Americans. Nothing. It is all empty talk."
-Yes, we are killing you, raping you, & pillaging like wild banditos! Nothing good is happening whatsoever. Then again, maybe they miss the days of Saddam because we just can't seem to get the pillaging down right - need to work harder on that.
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Asked if protests were illegal in the new Iraq, he told reporters: "There are no human rights under the Americans. Nothing. It is all empty talk."
This is the reason that the recruitment of Iraqi security people will take awhile. The fact is that Iraqis are not our friends, any more than the conquered Japanese or Nazis were our friends.* That shouldn't stop us from trying to help them, but an understanding of this basic fact will help to put things in perspective.
* They may become our friends later on, but that is yet to be proven. Even the Japanese and the Germans haven't exactly proven their friendship yet - that proof will come about if a major war breaks out and these fair weather allies are standing shoulder-to-shoulder with our boys. They're not at that point yet.
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Medea Benjamin of Global Exchange, an anti-war human rights group.
Human rights? Feh.....Medea is a self avowed Stalinist and could care less about human rights. This entire story is such crap. Anyone notice that since President Bush's visit to Iraq, CNN has seemed to drop any pretense of covering The POTUS and the WOT in an objective manner and are now in full and open opposition to this administration? I about lost my dinner that night when one CNN reporter covering the President's visit that "...Bush arrived like a thief in the night." Nice.
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The Iraqis are quick learners. Mr. Taha has learned (1) it's way cool to get yourself on television and (2) the quickest way to get yourself on television is to tell a western reporter something bad about America. "Hi, Ma!"
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Dear reader, treasure your mom... because she has to be a better one than this lady...
Not fuckin' likely...
...sheâs been using this excuse for three years...
That's it? Amateur.
"Lady, my dog doesnât like the way you smell..."
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OK, MOM, you've had your 15 minutes of fame plus change. Exit stage right, move along now.
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"Do you need me to use smaller words and speak more slowly?"
No -thump- You -thump- Need -thump- to -thump- drive -thump- each -thump- word -thump- home -thump- with -thump- the -thump- stock -thump- of -thump- your -thump- rifle! -CRACK-
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Our local anti-war Latino Dad - who's son was killed in Iraq and has made an ass of himself (his son would be embarrassed as this young lady surely is) is also over there with Medea - Stalinist bitch
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UPDATE
LtC William MacDonald announced that Giselle Valencia has just been transferred to Mosul but hopes that her mother enjoys her stay in Tikrit. She has also submitted a request for transfer to Kabul in the event her mother comes to Mosul.
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GEN. KIMMITT:
Over the past seven days, there have been an average of 19 engagements per day against coalition military, two attacks on Iraqi security forces, and two attacks on Iraqi and other neutral civilians. While this trend line is below recent norms, the coalition remains offensively oriented and will continue intelligence-based operations to kill or capture anti-coalition and anti-Iraqi elements attempting to obstruct a safe and secure environment in Iraq.
In the past 24 hours, coalition conducted 1,658 patrols, 22 raids, and captured 115 anti-coalition suspects.
In the Southeast, multinational division forces conducted 240 patrols, two raids, and detained 25 personnel in the past 24 hours. Four people with Iranian paperwork, one a confirmed citizen, were captured when coalition soldiers discovered numerous arms and weapons in a minibus that was stopped at a checkpoint in al-Basra yesterday. Among the weapons seized were several rocket-propelled grenade launchers and rifles.
In Baghdad, the 1st Armored Division conducted 528 patrols, five offensive operations against insurgent elements operating within Baghdad, and detained 14 individuals suspected of ties to Saddam Fedayeen and to other anti-coalition forces. Elements conducting a raid on targets suspected of attacks against U.S. forces captured three Iraqis and confiscated 1.4 million dinar, three computers, Wahhabi booklets, Osama bin Laden material, weapons and ammunition.
Coalition forces in Baghdad conducted a joint raid with the ICDC against Almar Yassiri, Muqtada Sadrâs operations officer in Sadr City, also believed responsible for the ambush of coalition soldiers on October 9th. He was captured without incident.
One comment on Samarra before we leave. As we talk about the numbers, letâs not forget what happened at Samarra. Coalition forces were providing security for an Iraqi Currency Exchange truck delivering new dinars to two banks in the town. Their only purpose there was to provide security. Those trucks had been attacked four times prior to that. They were attacked a fifth time. And on that fifth time when they attacked, the soldiers that were protecting those convoys responded. While they responded, the Iraqi currency exchange trucks were able to perform their mission, which was to bring new dinars into the town and take old dinars out of the town.
The people that attacked those trucks were attacking not only coalition soldiers but were attacking Iraqis that were trying to provide money for a restored, restabilized, rebuilt Iraq. Once that was completed, once that engagement was over, once a dinar exchange was done, the soldiers left the town. They accomplished their mission. They did not provoke an attack. They responded to an attack from terrorists and from anti-coalition elements and anti-Iraqi forces that wanted to steal the money.
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I'm of the opinion that when explosives are found in a house or vehicle, those explosives should be detonated on the spot. It would be the on site commander's discretion whether the occupants remain inside with their cache during the detonation.
Damage to left wing and, I assume upon landing hard, rear gear. Photo six shows the damage well.
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According to the report, the wing fire knocked out *all* of the plane's hydraulics. Admittedly this is an extreme case, but it sounds like Airbus needs to take another look at the design. Otherwise, it doesn't look like the missle did all that much damage -- wonder why it didn't hit closer to the engine?
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Do you think it wise that a lobbyist for Saudi Arabia and kind will be given such a task? Anyway joining the Kerry side in the role envisioned for him would have meant at least another 4 years of hell in the region.
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A bomb exploded in the middle of a busy Baghdad road on Friday, killing one American soldier and at least four Iraqis as a military convoy and a packed minibus passed in opposite directions, police and witnesses said. The attack came ahead of a visit to Iraq by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, a key architect of the war that toppled president Saddam Hussein but now under fire over the chaos that has ensued. He is expected to arrive on Saturday. Police said 16 Iraqis were also wounded in the Baghdad blast, one of two bombings on U.S. convoys in the capital, as Muslims headed to mosques for Friday prayers. There were no casualties in the other attack. In the fatal attack, the U.S. military said in a statement that the device exploded between the first and second vehicles of the three-vehicle convoy, killing one soldier. The minibus was badly damaged in the blast, with all its windows blown out. Pools of blood stained the floor of the wreckage. The blast also blew out shop windows around the area and left a large crater in the street.
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should be under "Iraq"
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I guess nobody told the terrorists it's bad business to kill those you seek to 'liberate'. This should back-fire with Iraqi informants becoming more abundant for the coalition.
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Oops! This must mean he's not joing the Kerry (He was in the Nam, 'case ya didn't know) Campaign. Name dropping can be embarrassing, if you're dumber 'n a box of rocks and your timing sucks like a friggin' tornado cuz you're just spitting into the wind. How's that for a slew of mixed metaphors? Peanuts compared to the Donks, but then peanuts are for... ah, nevermind.
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I suspect that the ones to hemorrhage at the crouch will be the French and Russians plus who ever else that tried to prop up Saddam's regime
with foolish loans.
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Barry - Down here, man. I hear ya, but you just need to know the man to know what he will and won't do.
Kerry dropped Baker's name in a news story yesterday as a potential appointee, as if in Kerry's wildest dreams he could actually get elected to something at a national level.
Baker's richer than Allah - which means just shy of the Clown Prince. Worrying about his patriotism is a waste - the man is a stone-cold killer who wears read, white, and blue Joe Boxers. If he's soaking up some oil money, I would suggest that you worry about the ticks Saudis. Best poker player who ever came out of Texas - Amarillo Slim is a Girl Scout in the company of Baker and a few others from his romping stompin crew. I'd bet on Baker no matter what circumstances you dropped him into.
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Barry - I need to sack out - it's 2:30 AM here in ChiangMai. One thing before I do - I'm not picking Baker to do anything, Bush is - and Kerry wishes he could. So if ya really wanna argue Baker pro's and con's, talk to them, bro. I'll just add that I do know he's one of the Hard Men. The Real Deal. Later. :-)
snellenr - I wondered the same thing - instead of Moscow and Paris and Berlin. He's a Weasel's nightmare - and that's where I'd want him, too! ;-)
Nobody shot at them or tried to blow them up, and everyone arrived in one piece. The Stryker brigadeâs first series of convoys, the advance party, made it safely to their destination in northern Iraq after another long ride Thursday. Much larger numbers were to arrive today and later until most of the Fort Lewis brigadeâs 5,000 or so soldiers get here to make the base one of the largest cities in this area. For security reasons, the Army will not allow The News Tribune to report the location of the camp or the brigadeâs mission, at least for the present. But it was with a mixture of exhilaration and relief that the soldiers in the advance party pulled into the camp Thursday afternoon. For a couple of weeks, they drilled on the major threats to U.S. forces on the Iraqi roadways - improvised explosive devices along the roadways and ambushes with rocket-propelled grenades. Many were convinced theyâd be struck at some point along the trip. "Itâs not at all like I thought it would be," said Sgt. David Williams, who manned the .50-caliber machine gun atop the Humvee of company commander Capt. Vinnie Bellisario.
Which was? "Like hell," Williams said. "Thatâs good, though," he added.
Particularly considering the route. Military police cleared at least 18 roadside bombs - or IEDs, short for improvised explosive devices - along the way over the past couple days, Bellisario said. "We went through IED alley, we went through RPG alley. No contact whatsoever," he said. "Must be our lucky day." Not only that, it was clear and warm enough after the previous dayâs cold rain. EFL
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Strykers should, in theory, be better-protected than Humvees - I suspect that's what they'll end up being used for. Bradley capacity: 6 infantry. Stryker capacity: 9 infantry. Bradley weight: 30 tons. Stryker weight: 19 tons. Bradley cost: $3m. Stryker cost: $2m.
I think the Stryker is viewed as something to fill the gap between the 6-ton Humvee and the 30-ton Bradley. It certainly sits smack in the middle, weight-wise. What I've read indicates that Strykers are designed to survive RPG hits. We'll find out very soon about its vulnerabilities - if Iraqis can take out an Abrams tank, they can take out lesser-armored vehicles. Still - it's better than a Humvee - and the more armored vehicles we put on the road, and the fewer Humvees, the safer our troops will be.
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The concept of the Stryker Brigades is to increase mobility and still provide some armor protection. Mech Infantry at a lower weight, meaning they can go places the Bradley's cannot. Half the size of the Mech Infantry division, too. Easier and faster to deploy.
This will either be a great idea, or a monster FU. General Shineski pushed this, and I believe three Brigades are planned. Of course, Shineski's out, having given Don Rumsfeld a pain in his ass, but I think they're willing to give the concept a chance.
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2 million dollars buys a lot of up armored Humvees.
True. Armored Humvees cost about 200K a pop, meaning the choice is between one Stryker and ten armored Humvees. But their capabilities are quite different. Where a Humvee is totaled after being hit by a land mine, a Stryker is probably salvageable*. And of course, the troopers inside the Stryker are also more likely to survive, and be in a position to respond to any follow-up attacks.
* I'm sure we'll find out real soon whether these things can be repaired after taking hits.
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Chuck, I thought three brigades also, but a GOOGLE search came up with this.
Six brigades are planned. The article reads like an Army training manual but is still interesting.
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And of course, the troopers inside the Stryker are also more likely to survive, and be in a position to respond to any follow-up attacks.
If you value the cost of death benefits or medical care for each trooper who's maimed at about $500K a pop, it's a little clearer why someone might choose the Stryker over the armored Humvee. And this is not counting the benefits for morale of having fewer casualties - this makes the troops more willing to take risks in combat situations. Aggressiveness is especially important in situations involving hot pursuit - if IED ambushes aren't lethal to guys in Strykers, Stryker units will chase Iraqi attackers clear across the Syrian border.
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Stryker units will chase Iraqi attackers clear across the Syrian border. - Zhang Fei.
Or the Saudi border. - Matt
Trouble is, we don't have the extra two or three divisions we need to barrel across INTO these ratholes, so we can clean out the corruption at the source. I continue to curse the Clintons (and Bush I to an extent) and their followers for gutting the military Reagan built up to protect us from the world's nasties. The man shouldn't have been impeached - he should have been hung for treason.
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Some nice links at this Army site. The photo gallery has some shots of the interior layout (second page) -- it looks pretty standard. Looks like the upper hatches are good-sized, though.
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The Stryker's predecessor, the M113, weighed just 11 tons vs the Stryker's 19 tons. I suspect much of this has to do with the provision of superior protection for the Stryker.
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My old unit that I went to war with, the 2nd Armored Cav, is refitting into Strykers.
Aside from the armor and better cross-country performance (over the Humvees), these carry larger guns, are modular (new FIST-V types included), and the big thing is the computers and electronics inside. These guys can be tied directly into regimental or squadron (Thats Cav for Berigade and Battalion for you flat footers out there), and can recieve and designate targets across unit boundaries.
These things were designed to operate with Cavalry style tactics - hit and run, fast deep raids, screening, and rapid pursuit and exploitation of targets of opportunity on the battlefield.
With proper agressive leadership and the right tactics and organization (organic artillery and helicopters and engineers - like a Cavalry Regiment), these things will be damn great for the terrain and type of enemy they face over there.
One example is that these sporadic mortar attacks will become very expensive for the Hajis. Normally they'd use counterbattery artillery like we did the when I was there the first time, but these Feydaeen Saddam types fire from dense civilian areas 3-5 rounds then run like hell.
But now with the integrated systems, the fire-finder radars can directly tell the location of any mortar fire, and have the closest 2 squads on the way before the mortar shells hit. And with these things, they can go 50mph, carry a whole squad and heavy weaponry, plus they have TIDS (Thermals) built in, and can even designate for the helicopters even while moving. These pull up, drop the dismounts, and zing around with the crew and gunner to provide cover and flanking support.
*IF* they work the way we were told they should, then these will be a great addition.
My issues: It aint a track - so there are places it cannot go and things it cannot do. The "RPG-Proof" is yet to be proven and those wheels look like big targets unlike skirted tracks. The underside (mine protection) armor - did they strip it to decrease the weight so that it can be airlifted by C-130?
And lastly, are these units properly trained in the aggressive and relatively flat organic structure that is needed for this brigade to operate properly? You cannot treat your battalion like its your own little kingdom, and have to talk cross to all the battalions in the brigade. Plus the organic arty, engineers and helicopters have to be used to quick tasking and working across battalions instead of up to brigade & division and then back down.
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It aint a track - so there are places it cannot go and things it cannot do. The "RPG-Proof" is yet to be proven and those wheels look like big targets unlike skirted tracks.
Whatever the Stryker's reaction to RPG strikes, it should provide superior protection compared to the M113, given the the 19-ton to 11-ton weight difference, and way superior protection compared to the Humvee. At 50 mph, it's also way faster than the M113, whose top speed was 35 mph. The tires have hard rubber cores, so that the vehicle will continue rolling even after the tires are shot out, albeit with some handling problems. With tracked vehicles, once the track comes off, the vehicle's like a beached whale.
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Among the integrated systems Dragoon mentions is FBCB2. Info systems like FBCB2, based on secure battlefield networks, give commanders much better situational awareness and allow the rapid integration of different kinds of units, which in turn supports the sort of tactics Dragoon mentions in his paragraph 14.
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"Clintons (and Bush I to an extent) and their followers for gutting the military"
Just as a reminder, when Dubya came in, main admin thrust in increased defense spending was for ballistic missile defense, NOT for more divisions. In fact they were considering cutting the army from 10 to 8 divisions, before 9/11. Blame Clinton for poor readiness. Blame him for not advancing BMD, if you wish. But dont blame him for lack of enough divisions.
BTW, IIUC, DoD has STILL not announced any plans to increase number of divisions.
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Blame Clinton for poor readiness. Blame him for not advancing BMD, if you wish. But dont blame him for lack of enough divisions.
The problem isn't one of allocation - it's of total budget size. The reason we don't have more divisions is because of the defense budget cuts that were enacted after Clinton was elected. This was the so-called peace dividend that Clinton used to balance the budget, while simultaneously increasing social spending.
From strategypage, EFL. This isnât really much of a surprise, but itâs something for us armchair strategists to keep in mind.
The U.S. Army is allowing units returning from Iraq to fall to the lowest level of readiness (level C-4). The reason for this is practical, mainly because all those activities that would have take a soldier from the unit (special schools, leave, transfer, retirement and end of enlistment) were halted while in Iraq. Once back in the United States, many of the troops in these units will be gone, at least temporarily, and it will take several months before replacements can be brought in, and the training cycle restarted. Some 6-12 months later, the unit will be back to the readiness level it was at when it went to Iraq. This phenomenon was first seen in the 1990s as brigades were sent to the Balkans for peacekeeping duty. Itâs almost impossible to prevent a unit, returning from overseas duty, from being reduced in effectiveness.
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It doesn't leave me too comfortable, either. Learn to live with it...
Iraqi entrepreneurs who have finally won the freedom to start businesses now face a new threat: competition, especially from well-heeled foreigners, given unrestricted access to the market.
Life's tough, ain't it?
After languishing in a state-run command economy for more than 40 years, Iraqi business people are now worried about their future.
Maybe they should have dumped their socialist dictatorships 35 years ago, eh?
Their anxiety stems from an October law that turned the country's socialist system into the most open economy in the Arab world, permitting 100% foreign ownership of Iraqi businesses. "Most Iraqi investors aren't millionaires," said Ihsan al-Titenchi, membership director of the Iraqi-American Chamber of Commerce and Industry. "They want to know what's going to happen to them. Are they going to stay in business? Or is someone from the outside going to arrive and put them out of business?"
Some will stay in business, some won't. Of those who stay in business, a few will become millionaires, most won't. Next question?
The October law, signed by the Iraqi Governing Council and US administrator Paul Bremer, banishes most restrictions on trade, capital flows and foreign investment. It allows, for instance, foreign banks to open branches and buy Iraqi banks. It slashes import tariffs to 5%.
It's called "opportunity." Some people are never happy, are they?
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Enlightened self interest suggests that foreign investors form partnerships with Iraqis. Value gained = knowledge of the culture and markets, sense of proprietorship. Risk = non-existence of intellectual property, accounting and related laws ...
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If I were them, I'd welcome all the foreign investment and management I could get. Baathist management was a bit too heavy-handed and, if they don't get their act together, it will be back.
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Baathist enterprise management... heh heh.
"Y'wanna buy me stuff?"
"Uh... No."
"Mahmoud, shoot him."
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It's gonna take time gents. These f*ckers have been in a 40 yr coma. I'm not a touchy-feely do-gooder type of dude, but seems to me, helping the local business guys as much as we can will pay off for us in the long run. At least ensure them the equality of opportunity, the equality of results depends on them.
Malaysiaâs prime minister issued new orders Friday to keep four Islamic militant suspects in prison for two more years, an official said. The four alleged members of the Kampulan Militan Malaysia, a group allegedly allied with the al-Qaida-linked Southeast Asian extremist network Jemmaah Islamiyah, were imprisoned two years ago under a tough security law that provides for detention without trial. The orders they were being held under were due to expire Friday. Waited to the last minute, then Bamm!, back in the hole.
Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi ordered the men detained for two more years because authorities believed "they were still militant in their thinking and pose a threat to national security," a senior government official told The Associated Press, on condition of anonymity. So do we.
The four, identified as Muhamad Zulkifli Mohamad Zakaria, Khairuddin Saad, Muhamad Zulkepli Mohamad Isa and Mat Salleh, are being held in a prison camp in northern Perak state. The group is accused of plotting to overthrow the government by force as part of a grand scheme to establish an Islamic state in Southeast Asia. It also is accused of killing a state legislator and a string of bank robberies. Yup, that sounds like JI.
No charges have been laid against any members of the group, who through lawyers and relatives have denied links to militancy and demanded that police produce proof or let them go free. Letâs see, if you go to trial, are convicted and sentenced, you have a better chance of having your sentence reduced on appeal and then getting out of jail than you do if you never go to trial. How very.... Malaysian.
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Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said, "I had my personal Izzoid Animist Spiritual Healer toss the chicken bones in the prescibed way of our people - into the groundhog hole. The groundhog emerged and, bearing the visage of our dear ex-Leader Mo-baby Mahathir, saw his other shadow - the magic one. And the visage asked, "Have they coughed up the loot from the bank heists? No? Bag 'em." So. There it was. The answer was clear. 40 days in the hole... times 40.
Jakarta hosts international Koran reading contest
Participants from 45 countries are expected to compete in an international Koran reading contest from Saturday through until Monday next week, the first competition since the event was recently declared two-yearly.
Be still, my beating heart!
Spokesman for the Ministry of Religious Affairs Arifin Nurdin said on Thursday Indonesia was named the host of the inaugural biennial competition for its achievement in a number of international Koran reading contests in the past. "We have won numerous international Koran recital competitions, but have never played host to such an event, despite the fact that Indonesia is the country in the world with the largest Muslim population. Even the Philippines managed to host one," Arifin said. He said the government expected to promote Islam as a champion of peace⢠through the competition, which will be held at Jakartaâs Istiqlal Grand Mosque. âGuess they read a different Koran than the boomers
"We are keen to show the world that Islam is bloodthirsty, intolerant, and homicidal warmhearted, relieving and peaceful," said Arifin, also the ringleader spokesman for the eventâs organizing committee.
"That's why we have to kill so few people for converting to other religions..."
Minister of Religious Affairs Said Agil Husin Almunawar had said previously the international event should demonstrate that Indonesia was safe despite a series of terrorist attacks in the country over the past year. Well, if Jakarta is peaceful, then I guess we could hold a bible-reading or torah-reading competition there as well - eh Sai-id?
And don't even forget the Kama Sutra readings...
Arifin said 25 countries from five continents what - no asshats from Antartica?
had confirmed their participation in the event, which will shave Rp 2.5 billion (US$294,000) off the state budget. All participants and delegations will stay at Borobudur Hotel in Central Jakarta, located near the Istiqlal Mosque. I guess the J.W. Marriottt is still undergoing "rennovation"
Hey! Borobudur's one of the most famous Hindu temples outside of India. Shouldn't they be staying at the al-Hayatt?
Participants will be divided into two gender categories "Master" and "Slave"?
plus an English translation category. Indonesia will be represented by winners of this yearâs national Koran reading competition. The chairman of the eventâs organizing committee, Taufiq Kamil, said the winner of each division would receive US$3,000 in cash, with second place receiving $2,000 and third $1,000.
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"Participants will be divided into two gender categories..."
The reporter / editor actually decided they needed to specify the number of gender categories? What are they, tri-sexual moonbats from Mars Phobos?
Now just remember folks, godless commies and nutty fundos can never work together, their ideologies are completely incompatible ...
The Moro Islamic National Liberation Front (MILF) and the Communist Party of the Philippines-New Peoples Army (CPP-NPA) have reportedly forged a tactical alliance by consolidating their forces to prevent politicians and government forces from entering five remote barangays in Tâboli, South Cotabato. A mini-Axis of Evil.
Tâboli police head chief inspector David Quistadio, however, refused to confirm the report but said that in the last elections the two rebel groups agreed to strengthen their presence in their âcontrolled territoriesâ to prevent politicians from going there. Not of course, that there is anything improper going on there to see. Kabalu sez so ...
"As of now, we havenât heard of a formal alliance but it is possible that they could team up again to protect their territory," Quistadio said. Quistadio disclosed that the areas where the NPA and MILF have reportedly set up bases are in Barangays Falcon, Basag, Malunggong, Aflek and Madis. Is that where JIâs hanging out too?
He said these villages are very far from the town proper and are not accessible by any vehicle. Commission on Elections (Comelec) officials reportedly used a helicopter to deliver and take back the ballot boxes and other election paraphernalia in the last elections. Tâboli, a remote town in South Cotabato, is 25 kilometers away or about an hourâs drive from this city.
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I saw this great thing on the web about MILFs last night. Wait a minute, my bad, different type or MILF, hee-hee ;)
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Commission on Elections (Comelec) officials reportedly used a helicopter to deliver and take back the ballot boxes and other election paraphernalia in the last elections.
I wonder if all the ballots were in the same handwriting....
Six convicted Bali bombers, including the mastermind of the bombings Abdul Aziz alias Imam Samudra, have appealed to the Supreme Court, their lawyer said on Thursday. "We submitted the appeal motions on behalf of Imam Samudra, Abdul Rauf, Junaedi, Andi Hidayat, Bambang Setiono and Musyafak," Qadhar Faisal Ruskanda of the Muslim Lawyers Team (TPM) said.
The Bali High Court in November upheld the convicted terroristsâ sentences. Samudra was sentenced to death for his role in the terror attacks on Oct. 12, 2002, which killed 202 people. The other five convicted terrorists were sentenced to prison terms ranging from four to 16 years. "The High Courtâs verdicts really disappointed us because the presiding judges failed to take our defense into consideration. We will mention this failure and the policeâs repression against our clients in our defense at the Supreme Court hearings," Qadhar said. The Supreme Court is the countryâs highest judicial institution. If it rejects Samudraâs appeal, he still can request a review of his case and ask for the Presidentâs mercy to evade the firing squad.
Another convict on death row, Amrozi bin Nurhasyim, had already filed his appeal motion to the Supreme Court in September. Currently, Qadhar said, the Bali High Court is still examining the appeal motions of eight more convicted terrorists, including of Ali Gufron alias Muklas, the alleged regional leader of the Jamaah Islamiyah (JI), the group also blamed for the JW Marriot Hotel Jakarta bombing on Oct. 5. The Denpasar Distric Court has sentenced 29 suspects in the Bali blasts, with four other suspects still on trial.
Earlier in the morning, Samudra refused to testify in the trial of Heri Hafidin, who is charged with "assisting and harboring known and wanted terrorists." Police dossiers have indicated that Heri Hafidin helped Samudra and his family rent a house in Serang, Banten.
While being escorted to the trial room, Samudra expressed his hatred of the U.S. President, George W. Bush. "Just watch, Bush will soon be destroyed. I have sent 5,000 soldiers down from the sky to destroy him. These soldiers are scattered in Iraq, Turkey, India and other places. God willing, the soldiers of Allah will prevail," he screamed.
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"Bush will soon be destroyed. I have sent 5,000 soldiers down from the sky to destroy him. These soldiers are scattered in Iraq, Turkey, India and other places. God willing, the soldiers of Allah will prevail," he screamed. "And soon will fly down the the giant Pillsbury Doughboys of Doom!
The former East Timorese militia leader Eurico Guterres is trying to set up a new group in Indonesiaâs Papua province that human rights groups fear may quickly become a militia used to attack suspected separatists. Although an Indonesian human rights court this year sentenced Guterres to 10 yearsâ jail for crimes committed in East Timorâs bloody vote for independence, he remains free pending an appeal and appears to have support among security forces in Papua for his new venture.
How very... ummm... convenient.
In September Guterres instructed two members of his new organisation, the Red and White Defenderâs Front (FPMP), to set up a branch in Timika, Papua, to counter a decades old campaign among some Papuans to separate from Indonesia. He accused foreign and Indonesian non-government organisations of encouraging Papua to secede from Indonesia and singled out Australian NGOs for special mention, although he refused to name any. "Most of the NGOs who want Papua to separate from Indonesia come from Australia." Revelations of the Guterres plan have emerged with the announcement that Papuaâs new police chief will be General Timbul Silaen, who was East Timorâs police chief when militias and security forces killed hundreds of pro-independence East Timorese.
Wotta coincidence! Who'da ever expected something like that?
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Most of the tribes in West New Guinea are related to tribes in the rest of New Guinea, which is the independent state of Papua New Guinea, a former British colony. West New Guinea is a former Dutch Colony forcefully annexed to Indonesia by military conquest in 1961. Most of the inhabitants, other than those that have emigrated to West New Guinea, have no loyalties to Indonesia. The natives there are still head-hunters, so the plot could become quite deadly if carried to extremes. I would NOT want to be some Jakarta punk hanging around the edge of the dense jungle if things go south.
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Four men, including a Muslim cleric and a local official, have been killed in an attack by gunmen in the southern Philippine city of Zamboanga, police said.
That's funny. Muslim clerics usually don't get dead...
Police said gunmen wearing military fatigues rounded up the men in the village of Muti late on Wednesday local time, made them line up at the side of the road and then shot them. Those killed were Janani Ahaddin, an Islamic preacher, his two brothers and Ebong Mabanza, a village councillor. It was not clear who was behind the attack, the second targetting Muslims in Muti in two weeks. Gunmen snatched three Muslim men on the eve of Eid al-Fitr last month and their bodies were later found tied up and riddled with bullets. Zamboanga is a port city in the southern Philippines, where lawless groups including Muslim Abu Sayyaf rebels and other bandits operate. Vendetta killings are common in the area.
Actually, I think killings of all types are common in the area. It's a Muslim thing. You wouldn't understand...
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A little more on the revelation that al-Qaeda was training in Soddy ...
THE MENACING new al-Qaida video obtained by NBC News features a new look â a terror cell that claims to be training inside Saudi Arabia mugs for the camera with most faces blurred to conceal identities. Hmm, that implies that the level of technical professionalism in their IT department has risen somewhat over the last two years ...
Their attire and weapons look like a professional assault team and they appear to be practicing an entry drill consistent with tactics used in bombings this year in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, where small teams of shooters breach security to get car bombs in place. Amazing that they can do all of this in secret but that Shiâites or Christians canât even organize a prayer group without the religious police at their doorstep, isnât it?
Itâs apparently the latest propaganda piece from al-Qaida, with dire warnings for the West and the Saudi royal family.
"Yar! We're warnin' youse! Y'r gonna get it!"
Terrorism analyst Ben Venzke, who supplies material to U.S. law enforcement, downloaded the material from a known al-Qaida Web site: âItâs significant that al-Qaida is training terrorists within Saudi Arabia because it would appear they are preparing for a continued campaign of regular strikes both against the Saudi regime and Western interests,â Venzke said.
Now, who'da thunk that? Guess the princes weren't about to reach an accomodation with the clerics, huh?
The only man who is identifiable is Abdel Al-Otaibe, killed by Saudi security forces only days before the November bombings in Riyadh. âI strongly encourage young Muslims to join the jihad for Allahâs sake, to protect our land and to drive Christians and Jews out of Muslim countries,â Al-Otaibe said on the tape.
"Look at all it's done for me! You, too, can be a deader!"
The tape appears to be real, because it was posted late Wednesday night on a known al-Qaida Web site â produced by a company that has made other bin Laden tapes. The tape also contains what U.S. counterterror experts say may be never-before-broadcast video of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on New Yorkâs World Trade Center shot from across the East River in Brooklyn. The FBI says it is familiar with the video, which was provided by a friendly bystander. Interesting ...
But that raises the question â how did a tape that was not widely circulated end up on a known al-Qaida site?
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Hope the FBI is targetting the A/V nerds at major colleges.
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Where's Benny and Omar? And what about the 'Mother of all Attacks' which Al-Q has promised?
Damn! Security must have been compromised, and they learned about the 400 bombers the United States had sitting ready, armed with large nuclear weapons, designed to turn most of Saudi Arabia into an even larger, even emptier Rub al Khali (Empty Quarter, for the geographically challenged). Hard to get funds from glass... especially radioactive glass.
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Maybe they finally managed to learn the basics of Premiere.....
Yeah, there are dozens of how-tos for blurring faces in every video package out there.
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Would have been beter if the Al Quaida guys had been wearing Groucho Marx masks. (cf Woody Allen's movie "Take the money and run")
From WorldNetDaily, havenât found other sources yet, so this needs verification. EFL.
Iranian Supreme Revolutionary Guard forces under the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei reportedly killed a 10-year-old boy in the countryâs minority Baloch region yesterday, touching off a massive uprising against the Islamic regime countered by a deadly crackdown and imposition of martial law, according to sources on the scene.
I'm not going to get real excited over this. If Pakland's version of Baluchistan erupted, I'd be hoping the Paks put them down mercilessly, too...
Amid burning banks, stores and government offices, at least 30 Baloch protesters are dead and 80 injured in the southeastern city of Saravan near the Pakistani border, said Malek Meerdora, who immigrated to Canada from the city in 1993. Meerdora told WorldNetDaily the Iranian government has attempted to shut off communication from the city, but he has been in contact with sources there via satellite telephone and the Internet. He said soldiers approached the 10-year-old, Haroun Balochzahi, and grabbed his bike from him, insisting on a bribe. The boy did not speak Farsi, the majority language, and responded by biting a soldier and running. The youth was shelled with bullets in front of people on the streets and died on the spot, Meerdora said, prompting an immediate reaction.
I'd take that account with a grain of salt, too...
In an unusual display of resistance to the hard-line, cleric-led regime, a crowd set a military jeep on fire and began beating the soldiers, Meerdora said.
I don't think the Baluchs have anything against a hard-line, cleric-led regime. They'd just rather have their own clerics in charge...
Later, at about 1:30 p.m., thousands of Balochs, including many from surrounding cities, began to congregate on the streets in protest.
Revolutionary Guard soldiers opened fire on the crowd, hitting up to 80 people, witnesses claimed.
"You may fire when ready, Mahmoud!"
The entire city and surrounding area is raised up against the Tehran government, Meerdora said, burning down symbols of the regime and attacking Iranian officials. Crowds reached the offices of the mayor, commissioners and chief of police and beat them, he said, and many soldiers have been beaten by unarmed citizens.
"Yar! We be Bugtis!... Errr... Baluchis!"
The director of the hospital has been warned by the government to not take in any wounded protesters, and some Balochs have been shot in front of the hospital, according to Meerdoraâs sources. He said security forces went to the hospital and killed people in their rooms. About 300 people have been jailed, and uncooperative prisoners have had their tongues cut out, he said. "I mark this as a day of revolution," Meerdora said. "I think the Iranian government will face more problems."
I mark this as a day of rioting. I don't think it'll come to anything unless it spreads to the more civilized parts of the country...
He said throughout the evening, Revolutionary Guard forces watched over the people from roof tops, prepared to fire at anyone who moves from his home. No one is allowed to enter or leave the city, he added. Similar to the Kurds, the Balochs, who comprise 2 percent of Iranâs population, regard themselves as a nation separated by borders â in their case the frontier between Iran and Pakistan, which also has a sizable Baloch minority.
Yeah. We hear from them regularly.
Politically the Baloch identify as Muslims, but most do not practice Islam, Meerdora said.
I think they mean they don't practice Shia Islam. Most are Sunnis, I believe...
Maybe another Rantburger has seen some info. This seems to based on one person with a satellite phone connection to the war zone. Like Fred sez, we need some more data points.
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BBC confirms, but quotes an MP who says only 5 dead, not 30.
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He said soldiers approached the 10-year-old, Haroun Balochzahi, and grabbed his bike from him, insisting on a bribe. The boy did not speak Farsi, the majority language, and responded by biting a soldier and running. The youth was shelled with bullets in front of people on the streets and died on the spot, Meerdora said, prompting an immediate reaction.
Big Fu****g tough guys. I guess it takes even more balls to rough up a ten year old kid than a women
"Similar to the Kurds, the Balochs, who comprise 2 percent of Iran's population, regard themselves as a nation separated by borders â in their case the frontier between Iran and Pakistan, which also has a sizable Baloch minority."
Go to the original, there's also a link to a related article at the bottom.
More details, EFL:
The Bolivian government said Friday it was questioning nine Bangladeshis after French police warned the group may have been planning to hijack an airplane for an attack on an American target in Argentina. OK, that makes more sense, yesterday it seemed like they were going to fly from Bolivia to the US.
"We cannot confirm them," Interior Minister Alfonso Ferrufino said of the French police warnings. "I can say no more"
The Bangladeshi suspects are being held in the Bolivian city of Santa Cruz. A second official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said seven other people - nationalities not provided - had been questioned and released. Bolivian police said they received an urgent warning from Mare Bertrand, a police attache at the French Embassy, that said: "French intelligence services have received information that leads us to think that the citizens from Bangladesh may board planes in South America, hijack them and crash them against U.S. targets." The Santa Cruz daily El Deber reported that the group was planning to fly to Buenos Aires, Argentina, on Dec. 2, but the airline, Aerolineas Argentinas, canceled the flight "at the last minute." According to Bolivian officials, the Bangladeshis flew from France to Argentina and on to Bolivia. It wasnât immediately clear when they arrived in Bolivia. Prosecutor Jaime Soliz said the Bangladeshis will be sent to Argentina. Argentina is well known for itâs creative use of the truncheon
Police identified the detained suspects as Jahangir Alam, 24; Morad Hossain, 27; Mihir Lal Ray, 30; Mohammed Jalkaria, 26; Anwar Hossain, 24; Ahmed Chowdhury Fares, 25; Mohammed Mahubud Alam, 24; Mohammed Eftaker Hossen, 24, and Sohel Rana, whose age was not known. Letâs see, one, two, that makes three Mohammeds. Guess that answers that question.
Last week, Argentina ordered security to be stepped up near the U.S., Spanish, British and Italian embassies in Buenos Aires after government officials said they received foreign intelligence warnings of possible terrorist threats. Defense Minister Jose Pampuro said Argentina also had boosted border patrols after receiving warnings from "two international intelligence services" - whom he did not identify - that an attack could be imminent. Iâm guessing France and Israel.
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The splodeydopes are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
They send terrorists from the poorest, least educated muslim country who can't even avoid the police in the the poorest, least educated south american country.
"Tell the statistician to suit up! The 3-stringers have been sent off the field!"
By Charles Krauthammer, too good to edit:
It has been 25 years since I discovered a psychiatric syndrome (for the record: ``Secondary Mania,ââ Archives of General Psychiatry, November 1978), and in the interim I havenât been looking for new ones. But itâs time to don the white coat again. A plague is abroad in the land.
Bush Derangement Syndrome: the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency -- nay -- the very existence of George W. Bush.
Now, I cannot testify to Howard Deanâs sanity before this campaign, but five terms as governor by a man with no visible tics and no history of involuntary confinement is pretty good evidence of a normal mental status. When he avers, however, that ``the most interestingââ theory as to why the president is ``suppressingââ the 9/11 report is that Bush knew about 9/11 in advance, itâs time to check on thorazine supplies. When Rep. Cynthia McKinney first broached this idea before the 2002 primary election, it was considered so nutty it helped make her former Rep. McKinney. Today the Democratic presidential front-runner professes agnosticism as to whether the president of the United States was tipped off about 9/11 by the Saudis, and it goes unnoticed. The virus is spreading.
It is, of course, epidemic in New Yorkâs Upper West Side and the tonier parts of Los Angeles, where the very sight of the president -- say, smiling while holding a tray of Thanksgiving turkey in a Baghdad mess hall -- caused dozens of cases of apoplexy in otherwise healthy adults. What is worrying epidemiologists about the Dean incident, however, is that heretofore no case had been reported in Vermont, or any other dairy state. Moreover, Dean is very smart. Until now, Bush Derangement Syndrome (BDS) had generally struck people with previously compromised intellectual immune systems. Hence its prevalence in Hollywood. Barbra Streisand, for example, wrote her famous September 2002 memo to Dick Gephardt warning that the president was dragging us toward war to satisfy, among the usual corporate malefactors who ``clearly have much to gain if we go to war against Iraq,ââ the logging industry -- timber being a major industry in a country that is two-thirds desert.
It is true that BDS has struck some pretty smart guys -- Bill Moyers ranting about a ``right-wing wrecking crewââ engaged in ``a deliberate, intentional destruction of the United States way of governingââ and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, whose recent book attacks the president so virulently that Krugmanâs British publisher saw fit to adorn the cover with images of Dick Cheney in a Hitler-like mustache and Bush stitched-up like Frankenstein. Nonetheless, some observers took that to be satire; others wrote off Moyers and Krugman as simple aberrations, the victims of too many years of neurologically hazardous punditry.
Thatâs what has researchers so alarmed about Dean. He had none of the usual risk factors: Dean has never opined for a living, and has no detectable sense of humor. Even worse is the fact that he is now exhibiting symptoms of a related illness, Murdoch Derangement Syndrome (MDS), in which otherwise normal people believe that their minds are being controlled by a single, very clever Australian.
Chris Matthews: ``Would you break up Fox?ââ
Howard Dean: ``On ideological grounds, absolutely yes, but ... I donât want to answer whether I would break up Fox or not. ... What Iâm going to do is appoint people to the FCC that believe democracy depends on getting information from all portions of the political spectrum, not just one.ââ
Some clinicians consider this delusion -- that Americans can only get their news from one part of the political spectrum -- the gravest of all. They report that no matter how many times sufferers in padded cells are presented with flash cards with the symbols ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, PBS, Time, Newsweek, New York Times, Washington Post, L.A. Times -- they remain unresponsive, some in a terrifying near-catatonic torpor.
The sad news is that there is no cure. But there is hope. There are many fine researchers seeking that cure. Your donation to the BDS Foundation, no matter how small, can help. Mailing address: Republican National Committee, Washington DC, Attention: psychiatric department. Just make sure your amount does not exceed $2,000 ($4,000 for a married couple).
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Dean's been getting away with telling some real whoppers and bad judgement calls - this should be spotlighted when we get down to one Dem candidate instead of the 9 mewling gnomes they have now..
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Dean: "On ideological grounds, absolutely yes..." He would crush their dissent.
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Dean is forgeting that Fox isn't the only nes source. Afterall, he was interviewed on MS-NBC. Nothing that we already didn't know.
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Dean: "On ideological grounds, absolutely yes..." He would crush their dissent.
That's pretty much exactly what he's saying here, isn't it? Nothing freudian about it, he disagrees idealogically with FoxNews, they're gone.
And these idiots accuse dubya of waging war against the constitution? Seems like nobody hates free speech more than liberals, i.e., people with something to hide.
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Man did he hit the nail on the head! From the 'Hate Bush' rally in Hollowood to the 'Babes Against Bush' people in Detroit. BDS seem to know no borders and no social boundry. One can only hope that after the crushing defeat of the Democrats next year BDS sufferers can get some help. Hang on guys help is on the way.
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I checked out the babes against Bush site. Pretty silly. They have one chick doing a spoof on Monica w/a 'bring back Bill sign'. That's all these chumps have is Klinton nostalgia. I have an idea, how about a counter-calendar:
From MEMRI, EFL: The November 1, 2003 conference of foreign ministers of the countries neighboring Iraq yielded numerous articles in the Arab press condemning Syriaâs pro-Saddam stance. Among the authors were editor of the Kuwaiti daily Al-Siyassa, Ahmad Al-Jarallah, and Iraqi opposition member and political commentator Dr. Riyadh Al-Amir. The following are excerpts from the articles:
In an article published in the Kuwaiti daily Al-Siyassa titled "Syria is Committing Suicide in Baghdad, and No One Besides Her is Dying," Ahmad Al-Jarallah wrote: "On the face of it, Syria washes its hands, because it is Iraqis who are resisting the American occupation â even though suicide bombers possessing Syrian identity cards with serial numbers of the [Syrian] secret service have been apprehended⊠Even regimes like Fidel Castroâs in Cuba⊠have renounced these hoary political games. [But in Syria] they are back, [with] a new hoax called âthe Iraqi opposition.â By receiving the delegation of Iraqi opposition leaders, Syrian President Dr. Bashar Al-Assad signaled a new era in the Syrian-led Iraqi struggle to drown the Americans in the Tigris and Euphrates, just as [Syria] threatened in the past to throw the Jews into the sea. The Syrian ID card part is interesting
In a follow-up article titled "Another War of Liberation is Not Inconceivable," Al-Jarallah wrote: "The hope of the Syrian regime â [that is,] reactivating the principles of its policy⊠of interfering in other [Middle East countriesâ] business by means of a conference of foreign ministers of countries neighboring Iraq⊠has proved to be in vain⊠This is because the regional role so desired by the Syrian regime stems not from any real power or any centrality of its actions, but from an inherent parasitic tendency that has turned Damascus into a state living off others⊠The countries⊠that answered Syriaâs call [to convene] have shown greater [political] acumen than their host, managing to turn the tables on [Syriaâs] plan for a Syrian-led anti-American conference⊠They forced the Syrian regime to adopt a rational position, to grasp reality⊠and to realize that, given the current international reality, its political calculations are anachronistic⊠The Syrian regimeâs prediction that Congressâs Syria Accountability Act had no chance of passage because it was inconceivable⊠was proved false, [because] it was based on erroneous calculations. The law was ratified⊠because today Syria is endangering American and global interests in the Middle East, particularly since maintaining the Syrian regime is no longer in anyoneâs interest⊠Heh, heh, heh.
In an article posted on the liberal Arabic website www.elaph.com titled "The Old and New Syrian Guard Are in the Same Pit," Dr. Riyadh Al-Amir wrote: "[When] Syrian Prime Minister Mustafa Miro gave Saddam Hussein a golden sword⊠did this express Syrian gratitude for Saddamâs many abortive attempts to assassinate Hafez Al-Assad, or, perhaps, for transporting Iraqi weapons of mass destruction to Syria in trains and trucks just prior to the launch of [U.N.] searches? Maybe it was for transferring the plundered treasures of the Iraqi people⊠and depositing them in Syrian government banks to revive Syriaâs ailing economyâŠ? Interesting reading.
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It's just a matter of time before they can kiss their Assad goodbye.
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The U.S. unemployment rate dropped to an eight-month low in November even as employers slowed the pace of hiring. The unemployment rate fell one-tenth of a percentage point to 5.9%, the lowest level since March. Nonfarm business payrolls grew by a net 57,000 last month, raising the total of job gains since July to 328,000, the Labor Department said Friday. The numbers surprised Wall Street. Economists surveyed by Dow Jones Newswires and CNBC had called for payrolls to grow by 150,000 and the unemployment rate to remain steady at 6%. But the report validated the Federal Reserveâs view that the labor-market recovery will be gradual despite the sizzling economic growth the U.S. has seen in recent months. The average work week expanded to a 14-month high, a sign employers are running out of ways to meet demand with reduced work forces. Over the last three years, employers have cut more than three million private- sector jobs. To replace those jobs within a year and keep up with population growth, employers would need to create at least 400,000 jobs a month, said Ed McKelvey, an economist with Goldman Sachs & Co. in New York. That far exceeds the average of the late-1990s economic boom.
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The economy is producing lots of jobs. They just dont happen to be in the US. The transformation of the Indian and Chinese economies from central command to open markets are one of the biggest stories in economics of the modern age. This is good news except for those in the US who are no longer aable to compete because their wages are too high to justfy the expense of hiring them into the US.
My expectation is that the US employment situation will change towards more self employment and temporary work rather than long term corporate salaried jobs. The day of the 'free agent nation' is at hand, and remains the only method the US worker can compete in the global market.
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"My expectation is that the US employment situation will change towards more self employment and temporary work rather than long term corporate salaried jobs."
Ummm that's been the trend for like a couple of decades now... you just noticed? ;)
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"Free agent nation?" Why, Im soaking my hands in it right now! - Im just just setting expectations. People tend to set their expectations around the idea that for things to get better they have to go back to the "way they were in the good ole days". My expectation is that things will get better, but things will not be like they were in the last economy at all. Each expansion ( and contraction ) has its own factors and features, each expansion is an expression of the economy adjusting itself to respond to the current challenges at hand in this cycle. The natural result is that what worked in the last economic boom may not be the case in the next one and so on. The next runup will be marked by the clear rise of the internet as a method to further the cause of globalism. Once you can run your business over the internet ( from anywhere to anywhere to anyone), the value of 'being in the right place' loses its shine. The very tools that silicon valley developed are the very tools that will make it not a very valuable place to be( call your broker, I wouldnt be buying commercial real estate in San Jose). The result will be disruptions in the way 'its always been', but that also means there will be opportunities for work that were never there before. It will take some getting used to, but it will be better in the long run.
I've been a free agent since 1996, I cant imagine wanting to go back, but where once it was considered odd and weird, its now becoming 'the norm'.
My prediction for this economic cycle: The Multi-linugal US worker will be as "in demand" as programmers were in the 1980/90's.
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An institute under the Ministry of Light Industry of the Democratic Peopleâs Republic of Korea has developed a new kind of enzyme for leather tanning. It is made of proteinase extracted from animals. Any kind of leather tanned with it is soft and pliable. So it is useful for improving the quality of goods. The enzyme won the top title in the 15th National Scientific and Technological Festival for its effectiveness and advantages. They can use the leather to fasten those improved stones to a stick and make a ax. Oh, wait, first they have to invent sticks.
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I thought that you used urine for leather tanning, which is one reason the process stinks so bad.
Could it be that they gave an award to some dude who put goat pee in a bottle?
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An institute under the Ministry of Light Industry of the Democratic Peopleâs Republic of Korea has developed a new kind of enzyme for leather tanning.
It is only effective after tenderizing the leather by pounding it with super flat stone blocks....
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They can use the leather to fasten those improved stones to a stick and make a ax.
Kinda hard to do when you've already eaten the stick...
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The NKors have discovered something that other civilizations have known about for thousands of years. Way to go, Dear Leader!!! Will the wheel be next?
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Does this mean they're over their fascination with Magic Rocks?
Lee Boyd Malvo had a plan to save the world. And it was going to start after he and John Allen Muhammad collected a $10 million payment to stop last fallâs sniper shootings, an investigator for Malvoâs defense team testified Thursday. holy f*cking sh*t, Iâve heard it all.
The plan involved setting up a compound for 70 boys and 70 girls. "Seventy boys and 70 girls were going to be made into super-people," Carmeta V. Albarus, an investigator and social worker, said Malvo told her. "They were going to be trained and sent out to different parts of the world and bring about a just system." Like shooting innocent folks from 200 yrds away w/a .223 bushmaster.
Albarus testified Thursday that she pointed out "how ludicrous" the idea was. She said Malvo "felt very confident that this could be done, because we have to start with the children." The $10 million payment from the government "was to purchase land and equipment and whatever else he needed for this compound," Albarus said. Apparently Malvoid didnât know Jacko already beat him to the punch on this. Craig S. Cooley, one of Malvoâs attorneys, had said in his opening statement that Muhammad devised the idea for a child utopia and planted it in Malvoâs mind as the motivation behind the sniper shootings. Albarusâs testimony was part of the defenseâs continuing argument that Muhammad so indoctrinated Malvo that he was temporarily insane when the pair shot and killed 10 people in the Washington region during three weeks in October 2002.
Howcome they only admit they're lunatics after they've killed the people?
Fairfax County prosecutors have begun challenging the theory more vigorously in recent days, repeatedly objecting to the relevance of "indoctrination" when the issue is whether Malvo killed someone. Malvo is charged with murder in the Oct. 14, 2002, slaying of Linda Franklin outside the Seven Corners Home Depot store, and prosecutors are seeking to have Malvo executed. Authorities allege that the snipers committed terrorism by demanding $10 million in exchange for an end to the shootings. I severely cut this short due to how long it is. Read the whole thing for Cochranesque absurdity. Some parts will make you piss yourself w/laughter, others are just pathetic. Bottomline, another insult to victimsâ family members by shameless scamming lawyers.
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The Washington Post published the drawings today, including the anti semitic pro Osama drawings; however it was in the back pages of the metro section. They also still haven't report the, "he was a good kid until he started reading the Koran" comment by his ex teacher.
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Ahhh...and to think I misjudged this poor lad with such a big heart. It was all For The Children (TM)
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Someone should tell him another nutcase already tried this. He had a much bigger audience, and he failed miserably, too. His name was Adolph Schickelgruber.
Some people think they should be allowed to remake the world in their image. Most of those images are ugly, and almost all are bloodstained. Wait until the 'social engineers' of the 1960's-1990's in the United States start reaping the harvest of their meddling. The streets will, indeed, run red with blood. Columbine was a wake-up call for these idiotarians, and they slept through it.
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" This is Chewbacca. He's a Wookie. That doesn't make sense! If Chewbacca is a Wookie you must aquit! "
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If Malvo is a utopian, he's 1000 times as dangerous as he would be if he just liked killing people. Fry him for sure now.
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TEHRAN (Reuters) - Police have shut down four of the Iranian capitalâs Western-style fast-food restaurants, popular with youngsters as meeting places to mingle with the opposite sex, in an apparent crackdown on un-Islamic behavior. Later, Police were seen reopening the restaurants and letting all the men back in for some âbondingâ.
Restaurant owners said the closures were ordered 12 days ago by a branch of the religious police notorious for closing down shops and eating places deemed to have contravened the Islamic Republicâs strict moral code. No wonder so many young Arab men are angry. They canât even hang out with the ladies for a chat and pop.
Bored teenagers, officially prohibited from socializing with unrelated members of the opposite sex, pack into brightly lit eateries and coffee shops in the evenings and at weekends to subtly flirt over a burger or a coke. âThe Islamic Republicâs strict moral codeâ: Eeeew girls are icky and dirty. They have cooties!
Young women, in particular, have incurred the wrath of hardline asshats authorities by wearing make-up, short coats and colorful scarves pushed back to expose as much hair as possible instead of the head-to-toe black chadors deemed necessary by the countryâs ruling clerics to protect a womanâs modesty. And thank goodness for that! Donât want them cooties spreading.
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Trying to stop kids from flirting? Yeesh, someone tell them the story about a King ordering the tide to stop.
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The Iranian boys (Persians, whtever) should instead be following the long established traditions of their ancestors and hang out in male brothels instead, where they could productively spend their time putting it to the 13 old boys that have been abducted and sold there
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The Persian Shi'a have all of the same BS of the Sunnis regards that evil minglin' and firtin' and eye battin' stuff. As for modesty, the Black Hats themselves wouldn't know it if it jumped up and bit them on their extremely tiny leetle-beety dicks.
So, in this issue, the difference between Persian Shi'a and Arab whatevers is so small as to make no odds. ;-)
From Debka and this made me really angry!
Bush tells visiting King Abdullah any peace plan must start with crackdown on terror against Israel and end with free, democratic Palestinian state. He approved Powellâs Friday meeting with Israeli-Palestinian authors of private Geneva peace plan - though adhering to Middle East roadmap. They are refused interviews with Wolfowitz and Rice.
No we donât talk to Jews! No we donât talk to women (especially black women)! And we only talk to christians cos we have no choice.
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Is that what that last sentence means? I read it to say that the Geneva attendees were not allowed by the US to meet w/ Wolfowitz & Rice.
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Paid for by the Royal Saudi Somethingoranother, I heard an advertisement on the local radio yesterday, stating how Saudi Arabai understood it needed to crack down on terrorism and had a long term committment to its relationship to the US blah blah blah.
Had to wonder, who exactly the advertisment was directed towards. Maybe it was all the local rantburg readers ?? :-) Hmmm...at least this time, they admitted to paying for their propaganda. Did we pass a "propaganda-finance-reform" law?
A blast on a commuter train travelling between two resort towns near Russiaâs volatile region of Chechnya killed at least 15 people, Interfax news agency quoted the local emergencies ministry as saying. It said local officials had pulled the corpses from a train wagon, which had been thrown onto its side by the force of the blast. This is early reporting so it could be just an accident, but given the love al-Qaeda has of launching global attacks in cycles I wouldnât put this past their Chechen brigade to pull something like this off. Weâll just have to wait and see.
Fox News says the likely bomber is a woman, and the korpse kount is now up to 35...
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Better check to see who had those Noreweigan passports.
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From the Beeb Thirty-two people are reported dead, and dozens injured, in an explosion on a commuter train in southern Russia. The blast derailed the train as people travelled to work between the towns of Mineralnye Vody and Kislovodsk, near the troubled region of Chechnya. Interior ministry officials said the blast was caused by a suicide bomber, but the FSB internal security agency is cautious about that claim.
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Update: Death toll now stands at 40, with 170 injured. Typical BEEB headline: Russian 'suicide' blast kills 40. Other new information under the photo caption: "Investigators found unexploded grenades in the train". Also, "Investigators said a bomb appeared to have been left under a seat and a railway official quoted them as saying it had had the explosive force of 30 kilos (66 pounds) of TNT."
Now they're saying it's an attempt to 'destabilize the country prior to the upcoming elections'. Still sounds like the same old terrorist schtick to me.
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THE Lordâs Resistance Army rebels on Monday killed seven people including an LC2 chairman of Apoka parish in Erute north about 17Km north of Lira town. UPDF army spokesman of the 5th Division, Chris Magezi, said one rebel was killed as they tried to sneak back to Pader. According to the LC5 councillor for Ogur sub-county, Ferdinant Okoch, the rebels invaded Apoka village at about 2:00am and stayed till morning. Meanwhile, Emmy Allio reports that the killing on Sunday of seven Arrow Group fighters has infuriated Teso leaders who have vowed to pursue the Kony rebels into northern Uganda and southern Sudan. "For the leaders in Teso, the death of the seven Arrow Group members is a personal blow. We sat and resolved that we shall avenge their death by pursuing their killers to Sudan," said state minister for health Mike Mukula. Kony rebels on Sunday shot dead seven Arrow Group fighters in Adongkweru village in Kaberamaido district. Mukula said the remnants of Kony rebels in Kaberamaido are led by one Lamola. "It is the wish of Teso leaders that Lamola must die and it does not matter where we get him," said Mukula who is also the coordinator of the Arrow Group.
"Bring me the head of Lamola!"
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Palestinian leader Yasir Arafat will be expelled from his Ramallah headquarters if Israel is struck by a "mega-attack", Israeli Interior Security Minister Tzachi Hanegbi has warned.
Al-Jizz has some funny spellings on people's names...
The hawkish Likud minister issued his warning on Thursday to the veteran leader after Israeli military sources said on Wednesday that an attack on a school in Israel had been foiled. "Had the attack we foiled yesterday taken place, it is obvious that Arafat would no longer be in the region, in the Middle East," Hanegbi told military radio.
"He may not even have remained in the gene pool..."
On 11 September this year, the Israeli cabinet passed a resolution allowing for the expulsion of the Palestinian leader, following two attacks in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. "That type of mega-attack would have completely changed the strategic situation," Hanegbi added. Military sources said two Palestinians, including one wearing a
10-kilo explosives belt, were nabbed by the army in the West Bank before they managed to infiltrate Israel. The term "mega-attack" has so far been used in Israel to refer to potential attacks on airliners or skyscrapers, since explosive charges twice as heavy as that found on the would-be bomber on Wednesday are often used in bus bombs.
"So, really, there would have been nothing to get excited about, would there?"
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re: funny spelling...correct spelling should be Araflat.
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Why wait for a "mega-attack"? Just make it clear that another suicide/murder bombing in Israel proper will result in the complete devastation of Arafart's compound. If Arafart is inside it at the time, well, that's just how the ball bounces...
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Expel what's left of his brain onto the ground is what they should do.
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Looks like the IDF was aiming a little higher than Arafish. From ArabicNews:
An Israeli military source said that Israel was about to consider launching an attack against Syria if a plan to attack an Israeli school had succeeded on Thursday. In his statement to the Israeli radio, the official said "had the aggression against the school succeeded, Israeli would have retaliated, by attacking Syria because the orders came from Damascus." The Israeli official continued "This aggression aimed at undermining a chance to resume the dialogue between Israel and the Palestinians, and affecting the inter- Palestinian dialogue in Cairo, with the aim to reach a truce." The Israeli minister of internal security, Tsahi Hanegbi, had stressed that "had the great aggression took place, Israeli would have expelled the Palestinian President Yasser Arafat."
Worthy mentioning that the Israeli army chief of staff hinted in November of likely Israeli attacks against Syria, similar to those carried out by it two months earlier, and targeted a position near Damascus. This would be if Syria continues to ignore the Israeli messages, as he alleged.
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OT: Yep, hostmatters.com is down. There were some very good tirades and discussions going on at both LGF and the rottweiler--both sites debating the nature of Islam and the Local Loony Left.
Bummer. Too many freaking eggs in one basket.
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Quite a few warbloggers down - Tim Blair, A Small Victory, VodkaPundit, Daily Pundit, LGF, Instapundit, Eject!, Rachel, Amish Tech Support.
All probably wondering how you are staying up. :)
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Their DNS server is down. You could read the sites if you knew the IP address. (Like that helps...).
We aren't being given much info but I assume they'd let us know if it were an attack (then again, maybe not).
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Boy, did this get warped OT! Trouble with being first in line. Whatever happened, Instapundit back up as of sometime in last hour.
Now, exactly what were y'all envisioning when you read that headline?
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a shortage of virgin wool
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Must have been the Ba-aaaaaaaaaaaaath Party.
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What's up with this shit? Didn't these guys learn anything from that little BSE problem in the U.K.? It's quite simple - putting animal parts in feed being given to animals that eat only plant matter is asking for trouble.
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What's up with this shit?
Some people who never held jobs and probably never will have decided they know "what's best for Australia", and want to stop sheep exports. They aren't concerned about the sheep farmer, the exporting company, or anyone else - THEY get their money, no matter what, so why should it matter that these "capitalist pigs" get burned. These are the cannon fodder of the war against capitalism. They need to be rounded up, ground into gooey paste, and used to fertilize a nuclear test site.
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Enough of these sheep--er, I mean, cheap thrills!
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Birds of a feather...
Nigeria has dismissed the latest attempt by the international community to secure the arrest and prosecution of former Liberian leader Charles Taylor who stands accused of war crimes.
"Nope. Nope. Can't have him..."
The global police agency, Interpol, has issued what it calls a red notice, seeking the extradition of Mr Taylor from Nigeria to face charges at a United Nations backed tribunal in Liberia's neighbour Sierra Leone. Mr Taylor has been living in exile in Nigeria since August. However Remi Oyo, a spokeswoman for Nigeria's President Olusegun Obasanjo, says it is a political, rather than an Interpol issue.
Killing large numbers of people is just a political issue, y'know. You can even vote on it in West Africa...
"When there is a democratically elected Government in Liberia, if that Government makes a request to Nigeria with significant evidence of whatever allegations it may have against Mr Taylor, Nigeria will hand him over or ask Mr Taylor to voluntarily leave," she said.
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A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
