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Afghanistan
Arab fidayeen behind 9/11 attacks: Hikmatyar
[The News (Pak)] Hizb-e-Islami leader and Afghanistan's former Prime Minister Gulbadin Hikmatyar said the September 11 incident was an action carried out by 19 Arab fidayeen hailing from Al-Qaeda, Geo News reported Saturday.

He was talking to Geo News in its program 'Jirga' with renowned journalist Saleem Safi, in connection with 9th anniversary of 9/11 incident.

Responding a question regarding a conspiracy theory involving Jews in the Nine Eleven incident, Hikmatyar said the Jews are completely devoid of capabilities to carry out incidents such as these, adding also the Jews could not prepare anyone for sorts of actions.
Posted by: Fred || 09/11/2010 18:12 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda

#1  "Don't Drone me!"
Posted by: Frank G || 09/11/2010 18:40 Comments || Top||

#2  No, no, no, it should be:

"Don't drone me, bro!"
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 09/11/2010 18:52 Comments || Top||


Hamid Karzai calls on Mullah Omar to join peace talks
[Dawn] Afghanistan's Caped President Hamid Maybe I'll join the Taliban Karzai Friday used his traditional message marking the Eidul Fitr holiday to call on the leader of the Taliban to join his peace plans and speed an end to Afghanistan's long war.

Karzai's message appeared to escalate his efforts to draw the Taliban to peace talks, after he recently set up a High Peace Council to open dialogue with the Taliban, who have been waging an insurgency for almost nine years.

He called on the one-eyed leader of the movement, believed to be in hiding in Pakistain, and his fighters to lay down their arms.

"We hope Mullah Mohammad Omar Akhund joins the peace processor, gives up fratricide, gives up bombings and blasts, stops causing casualties to Afghanistan's children, women and men," he said, using Omar's religious title.

He said he would announce the council's membership line-up after the three-day Eid holiday.

The formation of the High Peace Council was "a significant step towards peace talks," Karzai's office said at the time.

The move is the biggest step Karzai has yet taken in his efforts to open a dialogue with the Taliban leadership aimed at ending the war approaching its tenth year.

Karzai's plan to create the HPC was approved in June at a "peace jirga" in Kabul attended by community, tribal, religious and political leaders from across the country.

The council was mooted as a negotiating body, to be made up of around 50 representatives of a broad section of Afghan society, to talk peace with the Taliban.

Officials have said it would include former members of the Taliban and Hizb-i-Islami, a minor but vicious thug group led by former prime minister and mujahedeen leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar.
... who used to be known as The Most Evil Man in the World but who now seems merely run-of-the-mill evil...

They keep raising the standards, you see, and poor Mr. Hekmatyar couldn't keep up.
Hekmatyar's Hizb-i-Islami is currently in a tenuous alliance with the Taliban, although both sides remain suspicious of each other.

The Taliban have repeatedly spurned peace overtures, deriding Karzai's government as a puppet of the United States and saying they will not talk peace until all foreign forces have left the country.
Posted by: Fred || 09/11/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  Mullah Omar to join Peace Talks. Nine years ago today, who would have thought it?

Osama bin Laden didn't think we would respond to 911. But the sleeping giant was awakend and the world was surprised. The monster slept through it all.

They don't understand. They just don't understand.
Posted by: Martini || 09/11/2010 7:20 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Amnesia International backs human rights group in Bahrain
[Al Arabiya] Amnesty International has urged Bahrain to reconsider a decision to suspend the board of a prominent human rights organization that criticized authorities in the Gulf state.
AI must have gotten a donation from dear Mr. Soros as well. Or they're angling for one.
The Ministry of Social Development said in a statement on Wednesday it appointed one of its own officials as the acting head of the Bahrain Human Rights Society due to "irregularities" and a lack of impartiality.

Amnesty said the action was part of an intensifying "clampdown by the authorities on Shiite opposition and human rights activists in the run-up" to October 23 parliamentary elections.

"By suspending the board of the BHRS and putting its own representative in charge, the government has effectively taken control of the organization with the apparent intent of closing it down," said Malcolm Smart, the London-based watchdog's Middle East and North Africa director.

"This undermines the basic rights to freedom of expression and association, and the government should rescind its decision immediately," he said in a statement released on Thursday.

Amnesty said activist and blogger Ali Abdulemam was arrested on Sunday by Bahraini forces for allegedly spreading "false news" on the portal bahrainonline.org.

That came after Bahrain charged 23 Shiite activists earlier this month with forming a "terror network" aimed at bringing down the Sunni-dominated government.

Amnesty said BHRS was targeted by authorities after the rights group voiced concerns last month about activists who were detained.

"The BHRS is an independent, legally registered NGO and as such, it should be allowed to continue its human rights work unhindered and without interference from the Bahraini government," said Smart.
Posted by: Fred || 09/11/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Caribbean-Latin America
New US concern: Mexico insurgency
[Iran Press] US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has expressed concerns that Mexico's powerful drug cartels are turning into an insurgency force, challenging government's control over its territory.

"These drug cartels are showing more and more indices of insurgencies. It's looking more and more like Colombia looked 20 years ago, when the narco-traffickers controlled certain parts of the country," Clinton said in Washington on Wednesday, Los Angeles Times reported.

Colombia has recently been fighting a drug-financed leftist insurgency which, at its pick, controlled up to 40 percent of the country. Plan Colombia, the multi-billion-dollar US military and aid program, helped turn back Colombia's insurgents.

"We face an increasing threat (in Mexico) from a well-organized network, drug-trafficking threat that is, in some cases, morphing into, or making common cause with, what we would consider an insurgency," Clinton added.

Her comments show a U-turn in public comment by the Obama administration about drug war in Mexico, and the loss of more than 28,000 lives since December 2006.

The US government has been assisting the Mexican government in its battle against well-financed and heavily armed drug cartels engaged in a bloodbath of assassinations, beheadings, shootouts and car bombings.

Clinton's speech comes at a time Washington is considering a sizable increase on the Mexican drug war spending. US officials have also been debating on how to follow up the Merida Initiative, a three-year, $1.6-billion program that started in 2008 to provide equipment, training, and intelligence information to the Mexican, Central American, and Caribbean governments in their drug war efforts.

However, the ongoing violence in the neighboring country could potentially spill into the United States' bordering states.

Earlier this week, a White House official said, on condition of anonymity, that the joint anti-drug effort with the Mexican government "remains a top administration priority," adding the US government evaluates efforts "to make sure we are doing all we can on this issue."
Posted by: Fred || 09/11/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Narcos

#1  MAHICAN DRUG CARTELS

versus

YNETNEWS > REPORT: US MUST DEAL WID DOMESTIC RADICAL PROBLEM. Homegrown Xtremis, that is.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/11/2010 1:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Build the damned fence from California to Texas and make it a GOOD one -- buy up ranches along the border if need be to give the border fence some depth. Then really push to deport all illegals including imprisoning the CEO of corporations that hire them (the law already exists). After that, give Mexico helicopters, Hummers, and MRAPs to fight the narcoterrorists; don't reward the Mexican ruling class's bad behavior by continuing to allow them to dump their overflow population on us.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 09/11/2010 4:04 Comments || Top||

#3  "These drug cartels are showing more and more indices of insurgencies. It's looking more and more like Colombia looked 20 years ago, when the narco-traffickers controlled certain parts of the country," Clinton said in Washington on Wednesday, Los Angeles Times reported.

Something she was briefed on, or read about in a book possibly. She certainly had no interest in it at the time.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/11/2010 6:49 Comments || Top||

#4  and of course, we know how the Democrats have treated Columbia lately, bitchy because Uribe was a democratically elected non-leftist who managed to crush FARC (a Donk wet dream organization)
Posted by: Frank G || 09/11/2010 10:00 Comments || Top||

#5  Mexico is a failed state. Long past time to protect our border-- before the number of illiterate/semiliterate illegals goes from 11 million to s.t. like 30 million.

When that happens, we truly will be a latin-style oligarchy with a bankrupt state and a massive, illiterate underclass squeezing the middle class out of existence.
Posted by: lex || 09/11/2010 10:05 Comments || Top||

#6  Capsule summary of the Mexican Revolution of 1910-1920.

1) Mexico was ruled by Porfirio Diaz, a strongman intent on modernization, whose legacy of a high quality railroad system is still one of Mexico's strong points. Many parallels with the later Shah of Iran.

2) After many years of hard work and strong control, Diaz eased up, figuring the people had earned the right to enjoy their labor, and democracy. But Mexico had (and still has) the "Old Europe disease" where a few wealthy families control almost all the wealth. So this easing was seen as a sign of weakness.

3) Soon, three revolutionary leaders popped up. These were Emiliano Zapata, Francisco "Pancho" Villa, and Pascual Orozco. They soon captured enough of the North and South so that Diaz had to flee.

4) He was replaced by the weakling, liberal democrat, Francisco I. Madero, very comparable with his even more pathetic peer of the time, Aleksandr Kerensky, president of democratic post-Czarist Russia. Nobody like Madero, and it is only a matter of time before he is deposed.

5) Diaz left behind the commander of the Mexican army, General Victoriano Huerta, who overthrew Madero and had him shot. Everybody hated Huerta, and the revolutionary bloodbath began in earnest.

6) Three bandito revolutionary leaders in the North, Villa, Alvaro Obregon, and Venustantio Carranza, and Zapata in the South, as well as the Mexican army went on a butchery spree. Huerta bugged out, then Carranza declared himself president. Villa immediately turned against him.

7) Villa captured Mexico City. Fighting continued until Villa, Zapata, and Obregon got together. This didn't last, and so the brawl continued until Zapata was tricked and murdered. Obregon finally ended up as president.

8) During the Revolution, about 1,000,000 Mexicans fled to the US. Eventually the US started a program to systematically send them back, during the Great Depression.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 09/11/2010 12:42 Comments || Top||

#7  Memo to America: Stop spending billions of dollars on illegal drugs

Kind Regards,
Mexico, Colombia, Peru, Afghanistan.
Posted by: Gaz || 09/11/2010 20:07 Comments || Top||

#8  "buy up ranches along the border if need be to give the border fence some depth"

Hell, Shieldwolf, the ranchers would probably donate the needed land if they were sure a real border fence would be built.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 09/11/2010 21:55 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
S.Korea-U.S. Drills 'Aim to Stabilize N.Korea'
[Chosun Ilbo] Commander of the U.S. Forces Korea Gen. Walter Sharp admitted Thursday that South Korea and the U.S. conducted exercises aimed at "stabilizing" North Korea in the event of regime collapse there.

Sharp was speaking to reporters at the U.S. garrison in Yongsan, Seoul in reply to question whether a stabilization drill was part of an annual drill dubbed "Ulchi Freedom Guardian" last month, which saw unusually large numbers from both sides participate.

"We are designing our exercises to make sure that both the [South Korean] and U.S. forces are not only able to defend, not only able to attack and kill, but also able to provide humanitarian assistance for the security and stability of the people," he said.

They envisage the North Korean regime unable to maintain public order in a civil war, or the South Korean and U.S. combined forces trying to maintain public security in North Korea in case it provokes a war.

No USFK commander so far has openly mentioned such drills, which experts speculate were included as part of a new contingency operation plan the two allies are working out.

Sharp also noted that it is important to apply the lessons the U.S. military took from its drawn-out wars in Afghanistan and Iraq to the Korean Peninsula. "One of the lessons is that you can be fighting and attacking one area, and in another area the main mission is to stabilize and protect the population," he said.

Another lesson from the two wars is that the whole government should be involved in the stabilization operations if they are to succeed, he said. "The other thing we are applying here is that especially in the stabilization area, it is really the whole of the government. It is not just the military that has to be united in order to achieve victory."
Posted by: Fred || 09/11/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  TOPIX > [Dong-A] NORTH KOREA FAKES TRADE DOCUMENTS TO EXPORT WMDS [bypass US-led UN Sanctions].

* SAME > NORTH KOREA REQUESTS RICE, MACHINERY, CEMENT AID.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/11/2010 1:22 Comments || Top||

#2  OTOH DAILY TIMES.PK > CHINA FACES HUGE UNEMPLOYMENT PRESSURES [Roughly 22% if Chin's 1.0Bilyuhn-plus Tote Labor force].
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/11/2010 1:25 Comments || Top||

#3  South Korea does not share a border with China. If Nork falls and Korea is re-united China will in effect have a border with a wide open prosperous economy. What would that border look like?
Posted by: Alan Cramer || 09/11/2010 10:06 Comments || Top||

#4  "One of the lessons is that you can be fighting and attacking one area, and in another area the main mission is to stabilize and protect the population,"

Oh my. I hope the General is not a slow learner. That's not Custer's policy, but it sure sounds like Grant, Sherman and Sheridans'.
Posted by: Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division || 09/11/2010 10:19 Comments || Top||

#5  War consumes a huge amount of resources.

One push and norkland would collapse like a house of cards.
Posted by: Mike Ramsey || 09/11/2010 14:19 Comments || Top||


U.S. Spy Drone Monitoring N.Korea, China
[Chosun Ilbo] The U.S. Air Force on Aug. 1 deployed a Global Hawk unmanned aerial vehicle at Andersen Air Force Base on Guam to monitor military movements in North Korea and China, Japan's Kyodo news agency reported Wednesday.

According to the U.S. Pacific Air Forces in Hawaii, the number of unmanned reconnaissance aircraft will increase to three by next year to cover the entire Asia-Pacific region.

Global Hawks can fly at an altitude of about 18,000 m and reconnoiter targets as far away as 5,500 km with a remote-controlled high-performance camera.

Under a plan to turn Guam into the key regional base, the U.S. military has already deployed F-22 fighter jets and C-17 transport aircraft at the Andersen base, which is 3,800 km from Pyongyang and 4,500 km from Beijing.
Posted by: Fred || 09/11/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  Yawn. :-)
Posted by: Mike Ramsey || 09/11/2010 12:31 Comments || Top||

#2  I think I must have worked about 40 MILES of SR-71, U-2, TR-1, and other imagery of North Korea during my AF career, and it wasn't really my area of specialization. All this is doing is keeping the target folders maintained.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/11/2010 22:25 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Truthers: 'Evidence proves 9/11 story is a lie'
[Iran Press] Important evidence has emerged showing the official story the American public has been fed about the 9/11 attacks is a 'lie,' a group of architects and engineers say.

A day before the ninth anniversary of the September 11, 2001 attacks, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth say evidence regarding the destruction of the World Trade Center towers has emerged that show pre-set explosives were used in the demolition of the buildings.

Gregg Roberts, who is a member of the non-profit organization disputing the results of official investigations into the September 11 attacks, says the "official story is a lie, it is a fraud."

According to experts, the Twin Towers suffered total destruction within 10-14 seconds in near free fall accelerations which can only occur as a result of pre-set demolition explosives.

"There had to be explosives, there is no other way for the building to come symmetrically straight down... like a tree if you cut into the tree it falls to the side, that you cut," said Steven Dusterwald, another member of the truth seeking organization.

The group also asserts that molten metal was found after the 9/11 inquiry.

"Jet fuel and office fires cannot melt iron or steel. They don't even get half as hot as that and so something else was there, very energetic material that had to be placed throughout the buildings," Roberts said.

"Once we take the blinders off, we can see. There are very few people in America who have taken the blinders off. So we are assisting people by showing them the evidence," said founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth Richard Gage.

"The 600 architects I represent are most concerned about the freefall collapse of [World Trade Center] Building 7, the third skyscraper [that was] not hit by an airplane to fall on the afternoon of 9/11...the whole building is destroyed in 6.5 seconds," the American Free Press quoted Gage as saying.

World Trade Center 7 reportedly collapsed about eight hours after the main World Trade Center towers fell.

The new evidence makes void the official story line that 19 al-Qaeda terrorists hijacked four commercial airliners and crashed into the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York City.

The Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth group is calling on US Attorney General Eric Holder to request a federal grand jury investigation into this alleged cover-up, which Gage calls the "largest crime of the century."

"If there is a responsible party," former US Senator Mike Gravel told Press TV, "it ends with [former US President George W.] Bush and it comes down to [Former Vice President Dick] Cheney and then it comes down to the military and the various bureaucracies. No question that this kind of activity goes to the very top."
Posted by: Fred || 09/11/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  Instead of torching Korans, how about we make everybody happy and light these slugs up instead?
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/11/2010 0:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Taking the "Its Bush's fault" to a new level.
Posted by: 49 pan || 09/11/2010 0:35 Comments || Top||

#3  Can we get the "Aw Jeez, not this shit again" graphic on this one?
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 09/11/2010 2:25 Comments || Top||

#4  Better yet, can we pull anyone's P.E. that joins in this chorus of bullsh*t?
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 09/11/2010 2:29 Comments || Top||

#5  This idiots say that fire cannot melt steel, WTF? What do they think is used to melt steel, kryptonite and Superman's X-ray vision? Besides which, to destroy the effectiveness of a support beam all you have to do is damage its temper, which avgas and hundreds of tons of paper and office furniture burning will easily do.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 09/11/2010 4:13 Comments || Top||

#6  Better yet, tu3031, lets make a huge bonfire of Korans and throw these idiots on it.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 09/11/2010 4:14 Comments || Top||

#7  Idiots. Take a look see here..

Some people just don't get it.
Posted by: newc || 09/11/2010 5:14 Comments || Top||

#8  there is nothing so offensive as those who twist the truth and spread misinformation

they are truly evil

may you rot in hell, "truthers"
Posted by: anon1 || 09/11/2010 5:51 Comments || Top||

#9  great link, newc
Posted by: anon1 || 09/11/2010 5:56 Comments || Top||

#10  Who knew Syria invaded the US.
Posted by: miscellaneous || 09/11/2010 6:27 Comments || Top||

#11  I think IranPress's masters have forgotten, or don't care, that the NSA has a great deal of evidence in their archives of the connection between the 9/11 hijackers and the government of Iran. It was mentioned in the 9/11 Commission's final report...
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/11/2010 7:49 Comments || Top||

#12  The Iran Press should follow the advice of these guys....
Posted by: Goodluck || 09/11/2010 8:31 Comments || Top||

#13  Truthers feed into the meme of the muslim world. Some people never saw a conspiracy theory they didn't like. Their PEs ought to be pulled for spreading guff.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/11/2010 8:34 Comments || Top||

#14  I have found that just about every "truther expert" fails the sanity test and stretch their "credentials" a bit. I actually met two at the State Capital one day, they seemed really calm until you ask them questions counter to their "belief" (because they have no proof) they get really riled.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 09/11/2010 8:51 Comments || Top||

#15  Wow, that's some pretty stiff criteria they have:
Verification Team Assures a Sound Foundation
Written by David Carrig
Sunday, 06 December 2009 00:00

Validity of petition signers crucial to AE911Truth's credibility

Ed: The Verification Team is one of the unsung heroes of AE911Truth. Working diligently behind the scenes, this team provides assurance the petition signers are legitimate, and that their credentials are valid.

The Verification Team is a group of volunteers responsible for ensuring that signers of the AE911Truth petition are real and the information is accurate. All petition signers are verified, whether they are architects, engineers or supporters, living in the US or outside of the US.
Posted by: Frank G || 09/11/2010 10:05 Comments || Top||

#16  A couple of years ago, at the 'Burg, there was an articla about a Professor signing a similar tune. I found he was a professor of philosphy, and snarked, "Leave it to a professor pf philpsophy to expose a conspiracy endorsed by several hundred professional engineers."

Snark of the day, at the time, as I recall.

ASCE was one of the organizations in the official investigation, and they are not right-wingers, I can assure you. Their professors are PhDs of structural engineering.

I am but a lowly civil engineer, but understood the cause of the collapse before it was complete. Fire codes are designed to hold up the structure for a certain number of hours so people can get out. The fire code almost worked on 9/11, but the code never considered jet fuel sprayed throughout the structure. I believe engineers and architects are considering changing the fire code for large structures to include accelerants. I know it was discussed.
Posted by: Bobby || 09/11/2010 11:26 Comments || Top||

#17  There are some complex things going on which are really simple concepts. Let me try.

Don't have to melt the steel/support structure it just has to be weakened enough to bend under the weight of the total mass of the building above the affected area. Now a passenger jet is a mostly hollow lightweight object - mostly hollow because these were loaded with fuel for a trans-continent east to west flight (that is important Gregg because the earth rotates on an axis, not around you).

All that heat has to go somewhere. With the building design compromised from airplane bits tearing holes in walls and stripping protective coatings the fire spreads much more rapidly (See the definition of Flashover). The only place for heat to escape is the crash hole and any open windows, so the hot gases also start migrating naturally upwards, exposing more floors to high heat and possible ignitions where say trapped heat exceeds 451 degrees and paper combusts. This is a gigantic office building as we know.

The hot air rises, but the steel beams and whatnot also conducts heat downwards.

But before the bow breaks, notice the pronounced leans of the structures above the impact points. May only by tenths of a degree but that is a large tall building - I'd bet a golf ball would have easily rolled across the upper floors there towards the end.

We cannot see what is going on inside, but eventually one weld or bolt too many fails and like a house of cards once it starts it happens quick. But it is not a deck of cards, it is floors of concrete and steel and computer desks and people and that is called momentum and if all the remainig supports go nearly at once then yes it may look like a controlled demo because it is the same concept. But it doesn't take 10-14 seconds, it takes what and hour and a half.

I've seen the bumping of grain trucks and backhoe work cause enough vibration to screw up a masonry building. I think I can believe that the collapse of 2 gigantic office buildings could weaken a foundation enough.

So Gregg ya wanna warm up the dutchie and talk about all the way to the top man! you go for it, but y'alls belief that of explosives and not hot enough is so proposterous that your credibility is somewhere below the arguement that the movie Harvey was about the illuminati and mind control.

And thats why firefighters laugh at you Gregg. See, even rural volunteer firefighters learn that much in Firefighter I class, nevermind the paid professionals of NYC.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/11/2010 13:05 Comments || Top||

#18  The Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth looks like it's making big bucks off of tax-deductible donations.

"AE911Truth is an IRS approved 501(c)3 tax exempt non–profit corporation. Your donations are tax deductible."

And the mailing address for donations is apparently a UPS store in Berkeley that allows mailboxes to have street addresses.

Hell of a deal, if you can get it. Just let the donations roll in.

I can't believe anyone could watch the multiple camera views of the destruction that happened in real time and come to the conclusion that this was set by explosives.

I think a cynical reason for the cynical view is much more likely. Just my humble opinion.
Posted by: Black Charlie Chinemble5313 || 09/11/2010 15:27 Comments || Top||

#19  as a licensed professional engineer (Civil, like Mr. Bobby and Al-Aska Paul PBUH) and an emphasis on structures (like buildings, ahem, and bridges) I can say these idiots are a disgrace to their professions, and their names and registrations should be public. I think there's only a few, really, and they say they have more to be all "consensusy" like the Global Warming hoaxers
Posted by: Frank G || 09/11/2010 15:46 Comments || Top||

#20  Must have got their degrees from Harvard.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 09/11/2010 19:49 Comments || Top||

#21  Gimme an axe handle, and I'll show them some engineering they can believe in (and all the mercy and justice they are due)
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/11/2010 21:42 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Pakistain to chair IAEA board
They can't possibly be less effective than when Dr. El-Baradei headed it.
[Al Arabiya] Pakistan is expected to become the next head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog's governing body despite being outside a global anti-nuclear arms pact and home to a nuclear smuggler who supplied Iran and North Korea, diplomats say.

One Western diplomat said the choice was "not ideal" because, like India, North Korea and Israel, Pakistan has shunned the 1970 Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) that is at the heart of the International Atomic Energy Agency's work.

But Western powers are not expected to oppose the nominee of a group of Middle East and South Asia member states because Pakistan was a longstanding member of the Vienna-based IAEA Board of Governors and the choice would be within its rules.
Posted by: Fred || 09/11/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq
Christians must be spared any harm, says senior intellectual
BASRA / Aswat al-Iraq: A leading Iraqi intellectual on Friday called for respecting Christians and sparing them any harms as part of reactions to a U.S. pastor’s calls to burn books of the holy Quran on the 9/11 anniversary.

“We have to prevent any possible harms against our Christian brothers as reactions to the U.S. pastor’s call to burn the Holy Quran,” according to Khalid al-Mulla, the leader of Iraq’s scholars and intellectuals association, in statements to Aswat al-Iraq news agency.

“The stand adopted by the Christian clergymen has become very clear as they offer an apology to their brothers in the Muslim world and express respect and appreciation for the Quran,” Mulla added.

Christian local residents of Baghdad denounced plans by a U.S. church to burn books of the Quran on the 9th anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

Iraqi Christians in the capital Baghdad agreed that the plans to burn the Muslim holy book are running counter to the teachings of the Christian faith that respect all divine religions.
Posted by: Steve White || 09/11/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  True, it is a teaching.
Posted by: miscellaneous || 09/11/2010 6:47 Comments || Top||

#2  I doubt he actually believes any of that. He is lying as a convenience.

A short background document here.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/11/2010 7:09 Comments || Top||

#3  I'd have to agree Besoeker. More lip service to make him look spiffy.
Posted by: miscellaneous || 09/11/2010 9:20 Comments || Top||

#4  This event may be a grand propaganda event for Islamics to incite a global murderous spree over a book burning. But it globally corrects any misguided notions that Islam are a "Religion of Peace".

I look forward to the next dinner conversation with a liberal who makes such a ludicrous claim.
Posted by: Martini || 09/11/2010 13:24 Comments || Top||

#5  is
Posted by: Martini || 09/11/2010 13:25 Comments || Top||

#6  india,thailand,phillipines etc prove that muslims cant or wont get on with other religions!
Posted by: Paul D || 09/11/2010 14:23 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
UAE gives Paleo 'Authority' $42 million
WASHINGTON - The United Arab Emirates has donated $42 million to the Palestinian Authority, boosting support for President Mahmoud Abbas’ cash-strapped government as it embarks on direct peace talks with Israel, Arab officials said on Friday. An Arab source in Washington said the donation, which was confirmed by a Palestinian government spokesman, was made after repeated calls by senior US officials for more Arab support to help build Palestinian government capacity.

“It is a timely gesture of support both for the talks and the institution-building project of the PA, as well as a response to the public urging from (US) President (Barack) Obama and Secretary (of State Hillary) Clinton,” the source said.

Palestinian government spokesman Ghassan al-Khatib confirmed the UAE donation but declined to give further details. “The sum is meant to support the government’s budget,” he said.

Abbas’ Palestinian Authority has seen a decline in funding from Arab countries and imposed spending cuts even as it seeks to expand government functions.

The Palestinian Authority’s main Arab donors, Saudi Arabia and the UAE, have contributed considerably less this year than they have annually since 2007. So far, the Saudis have donated $30.6 million until August, compared to $241.1 million in the same period in 2009. The new donation by the UAE, the world’s third-largest oil exporter, is its first this year — it gave $173.9 million in 2009.
Maybe they're wising up ...
A United Nations report last month said the Palestinian Authority could face a serious liquidity crisis in September due to the aid shortfall.
Posted by: Steve White || 09/11/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  We'll very likely see THAT generous donation at the gas pump soon.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/11/2010 6:52 Comments || Top||


Haniyeh: No obligation to adhere to Israel-PA agreement
[Jerusalem Post] Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh said that no one will be obligated to adhere to a potential peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, Israel Radio reported on Friday.

Any agreement to come out of the current peace talks would be illegitimate because the Palestinian Authority has not been authorized by the Palestinian people to negotiate on their behalf, Haniyeh stated.
Posted by: Fred || 09/11/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Hamas


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Supreme Leader: Palestine is prime issue of Muslim world
[IRNA] Supreme Leader of Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyed Ali "Fearless Leader" Khamenei said here on Friday that Paleostine issue is the number one issue of the world of Islam.

"Paleostine is the number one issue of the world of Islam. The so-called peace conference aims to cover up Zionist regime's crimes," said Ayatollah Khamenei in his first Eid-ul-Fitr (Fast Breaking Festival) congregational prayers sermon.
Nurse! The pink pill -- he's doing that thing again!
He said the US and the West have sit idle, witnessing suppression of the Paleostinian nation and holding a session for peace. "What a kind of peace? Which peace? (Peace) among whom?"
"Not with us, that's fer sure!"
Calling Paleostinian nation a "strong nation" that stands pressures, the Supreme Leader said pressures can not force the resistant nation withdraw.

The Paramount Leader said Paleostinian nation have become more stronger and more powerful than the past 20 to 30 years.
For certain definitions of stronger and more powerful that mean weaker and practically powerless.
"Paleostinians can cut hands of the aggressor and put an end to the Zionist regime's presence in the region," added the Ayatollah.
Of course they can. That's why they haven't done it thus far.
Elsewhere in his address, Ayatollah Khamenei thanked the nation for high turnout in the World Quds Day rallies. "Domineering powers
Yes, that'd be us...
want to marginalize the issue of Paleostine but glorious World Quds Day ceremonies showed that Mohammedans are filled up with hope and enthusiasm."

The Supreme Leader said 31 years are passing since the late Imam Khomeini designated the last Friday of the fasting month of Ramadhan as the World Quds Day. "31 years are passing since the day the late Imam designated the day as the World Quds Day. Enemies expected that the Day would lose its importance with passage of time but to no avail."

This year, the Day was observed in many countries in Asia, Africa, Europe, America and the Middle East and Iranian nation, which was the main pivot of the Islamic movement, commemorated the Day more gloriously than the past, showing that they would fulfill their duty in the best possible manner when time requires.
Posted by: Fred || 09/11/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran


'No true Christian would burn Quran'
[Iran Press] Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast says no pious Christian would support the "evil" plans of a US church to burn copies of the holy Quran.
Actually they would. The Muslim holy book means no more to an actual Christian than does "Birds of North America" or any Mickey Spillane novel. Maybe less, because it's not very interesting.
The remarks were made after a meeting with foreign ambassadors, as plans by Florida pastor Terry Jones to torch copies of the Quran on the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 attack continue to draw condemnation from Muslim and non-Muslim leaders. "We are certain that no true follower of Christ is willing to act in line with this pastor's wishes and go down this path with him," Mehr News Agency quoted Mehmanparast as saying on Thursday.
Unless I'm mistaken, expecting to cause worldwide riots by burning a bible will get you mere looks of curiosity. Having set idolatry behind it, Christianity doesn't "worship" the bible in the same sense Mohammedans worship the Koran.
Mehmanparast said Foreign Minister Mottaki had called on the envoys to discuss the anti-Islamic plans with their governments and properly respond to this matter.

He went on to echo earlier remarks by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who denounced the plans as a "Zionist plot, and against the teachings of all divine prophets."

Jones' decision has even angered the Catholic Church, with the Vatican council blasting the Florida church's scheme as an "outrageous and grave gesture against a book considered sacred by a religious community."

Senior Washington officials have slammed the plans as "disrespectful," "disgraceful" and "un-American."

Earlier on Friday, angry demonstrators marched in Tehran to condemn the Islamophobic decision, as protests in neighboring Pakistan and Afghanistan as well as India and Indonesia continued.

Following the fierce international condemnation of the plan, Jones, a radical evangelist, announced on Thursday that he had put his Quran burning plans on hold.
Posted by: Fred || 09/11/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  NEWS KERALA > 9-11: NEW TOWERS RISING UP FAST AT GROUND ZERO.

* Meanwhile, on Topic, SAME > NEPAL MUSLIMS WARN OF WORLD WAR III OVER RELIGION.

* SAME > "MUMBAI-II" COULD START/IGNITE [new]FULL-BLOWN INDO-PAKISTAN WAR: US PANEL.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/11/2010 1:37 Comments || Top||

#2  I support the burning of the Koran, just like I support the burning of Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto -- with one provision, you should actually read them before burning. They are the operator's manual for the totalitarian thugs of the world, and deserve NO respect.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 09/11/2010 3:56 Comments || Top||

#3  Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast says no pious Christian would support the "evil" plans of a US church to burn copies of the holy Quran

It was "true muslims" who killed 3000+ people on 9/11 in a sneak attack on the United States. I recall the dancing in the streets, the burning building, bodies aflame jumping of the tower. Your evil would have killed far more if you could have. So Ramin, old boy, when muslims speak no one believes them. Their hatred and deeds speak volumes. I, like many, didn't think too much about islam prior to 9/11. Since that time, because of the various acts of islamics, I have come to equate islam with evil. The evil is sometimes dramatic and overt while at other times it is both creepy and creeping. It creeps into other cultures like a virus. Thanks but no thanks for your opinion on the anniversary of 9/11. You've already done enough. It will never be forgotten.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/11/2010 8:08 Comments || Top||

#4  The big difference remains that Muslims burn Bibles out of censorship, fear, that Muslims would read them and leave Islam.

Christians might burn the Koran not out of censorship, but utter contempt and disgust, much as they might burn a book advocating on behalf of pederasty by NAMBLA.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 09/11/2010 11:35 Comments || Top||

#5  Since they will make every attempt to save a Koran... I always thought we made a tactical mistake by not spreading lots of korans all over the Pashtunistan section of Pakiwakiland.

The easiest would be to print the koran on toilet paper and drop millions of open rolls out of the backs of C-5As flying over.

It would take every everybody in those provinces decades attempted to restore those korans. That's a lot of Taliban, AQ and the ilk taken out of the game.
Posted by: Water Modem || 09/11/2010 14:12 Comments || Top||

#6  No true Christian, redeemed by the blood of Jesus Christ, would claim that the son-less allah of the koran is the same god as the Father who so loved the world that He sent his only begotten Son to die for us.

There are, however, many professing christians, as well as muslims, who claim that muslims, Jews and Christians worship the same God.

They are anathema / cursed (Galatians 1:8)

"But even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you any "good news" other than that which we preached to you, let him be cursed."
Posted by: Mullah Lodabullah || 09/11/2010 15:19 Comments || Top||

#7  MULLAH LODABULLAH! Tha's the best name I think i have seen on here LMAO
Posted by: chris || 09/11/2010 15:47 Comments || Top||


Iran Denies Building Secret Uranium Enrichment Site
[Asharq al-Aswat] Iran on Friday denied claims by opposition groups that it was secretly building a new uranium enrichment site deep in the mountains northwest of the capital.

"We have no such installation that enriches uranium and if they (opposition groups) are aware of such a development, they should tell us. We will thank them," the country's atomic chief Ali Akbar Salehi told the Mehr news agency.

"No such nuclear installation with a specific definition exists in Iran which has not been declared to the agency," he said of UN nuclear watchdog the ineffective International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

Iranian opposition group the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI) said on Thursday in Washington that in 2005 Iran began building a new uranium enrichment site in Abyek, about 120 kilometres (70 miles) northwest of Tehran.

Iran is currently enriching uranium in the central city of Natanz and is building another such facility at Fordo, southwest of the capital.

Salehi said that nuclear installations have specific purposes.

"Facilities which are used for medical and agriculture purposes are not considered nuclear. There are many such (non-nuclear) facilities in Iran," he said.
Posted by: Fred || 09/11/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  Yeah sure and BTW I have this land down in Florida with a bridge going to it for sale...
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/11/2010 9:12 Comments || Top||

#2  The point they are disputing is the adjective "secret".
Posted by: Mike Ramsey || 09/11/2010 12:32 Comments || Top||



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