Three suspects who were being pursued by Saudi security in the holy city of Makkah after killing a fourth managed to escape, security sources said yesterday.
Hmmm... That's never happened before, has it?
The sources said that the suspect who was killed on Wednesday after he threw a hand grenade at police forces was identified as Saleh Mohammed Al Badrani, 35. Al Badrani was not included on the list of 26 most wanted terrorist suspects but he was wanted by the interior ministry for involvement in planning terrorist attacks, the security sources said. The sources said Al Badrani was killed after covering the three other suspects who were with him, allowing them to escape. Witnesses said police forces have set up checkpoints at all the city's entrances and main roads. The area of the attack was still cordoned off.
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Has the exodus of foreign workers from Saudi Arabia continued/accelerated? After the attack near Kobar it was mentioned that many were waiting until July when the school year ends. July has come and gone. Does anyone have any current info?
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I know 2 families who've left in the last 30 days. Unfortunately, my best info source within Aramco Mgmt was one of them - so there went my big picture info. Others, those who've been there for most of their professional lives, seem to be willing to "hide out" in Camp - they won't answer my "When are you leaving?" question directly - at least until the next attack, I guess.
You will have trouble getting someone inside Aramco, at least, to take over reporting for A4617, who should be safely back in Michigan, now. Once Aramco started offering DSL to in-camp residents, almost all Aramcons gave up their private connections - and the Aramco connection goes thru the Saudi Science City NAP - which filters the hell out of everything in & out - and monitors / logs closely - so they will be very slow to speak openly / freely, IMO.
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.com---A4617 corresponded with me after she got safely out of the MK. The lurker on RB was traced by RB spooks to a Dharan office of Aramco, which you probably already know about. So being there and laying your opinions on a weblog site could be hazardous to one's health in the Magic Kingdom. So it seems that if you are gonna work in the MK, you better get a dhimmi hat on and watch your six for the thought police and/or muzzle flashes or a dull knife out of its scabbard.
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AP - Thanx - glad to know our buddy's safe.
As for the Saudis, well, there is nothing beneath them - and there are only their rules. I'm sure the info I get has been carefully written - and edited. I only have one correspondent left who will talk politics in any fashion. It's very sad - these are some very smart and worldly people who are primo friends and the best company you could ask for. I hope I don't lose track of them after they get out - and get out safely.
China has executed two Muslims who were among 18 Uighurs convicted of separatism in the restive northwestern region of Xinjiang, local officials said Friday. The group, all alleged members of the little-known East Turkestan People`s Party, were sentenced on July 21 by the Intermediate People`s Court in Aksu city in Xinjiang, said Ma Lin, deputy director of the court in Shaya county, where the defendants lived. "Two were sentenced to death and have been executed," Ma told AFP. Two others were sentenced to life imprisonment. The Aksu court could not be reached for comment. A spokesman for the Germany-based overseas Uighur activist group World Uighur Congress said the other 14 defendants were sentenced to five to 20 years in prison. "Some of them were businessmen, some were religious people. Others had been harassed by the Chinese government," said the spokesman Dilxat Raxit. All 18 defendants were charged with illegally organizing a political party, using armed tactics to split the country, concealing guns, ammunition and explosives, and illegally producing, buying and selling as well as transporting weapons and explosives, Raxit said. The court official did not name the defendants, but Raxit said the two executed men were Akmed Tash, president of the group, and Lokman Mamet, treasurer, using the phonetic spellings of their names.
The case highlights what many believe is growing dissatisfaction among Uighurs in China, given the Chinese government`s stepped up crackdown against them after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in the United States. A reporter of a local paper in Aksu indicated Friday there were many groups formed by dissatisfied Uighurs in the area -- a sign of continuing tension in the region despite government efforts to quell dissent. "The East Turkestan People`s Party is one of many such terrorist groups in this area," said Gong Xise, a reporter for the Aksu Daily. He said one of the 18 people sentenced were trained in Afghanistan and had fought against American troops and then returned to China from Afghanistan. This could not be immediately confirmed. "They participated in setting off explosions, kidnapping and robbery and other terrorists activities," Gong said. Most Uighur political parties in Xinjiang support independence, Raxit said, adding China`s tactics created more dissent. Human rights groups have accused the Chinese government of using the global anti-terror campaign to harshly punish Uighurs who held dissenting views, even those who were non-violent. "We hope the international community will pay attention to this," Raxit said. "We`re being sacrificed in the global anti-terrorism cause. We`ve become the only people in China sentenced by death because of political activities since 1989." A local official told AFP in August ethnic and religious tensions are flaring up again in a Muslim-majority district in Hotan, southern Xinjiang, neighboring Aksu. Uighurs make up the predominant majority of the population in southern Xinjiang while more Han Chinese live in the north, which is better developed.
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I'm sure Amnesty International will immediately lodge a protest / condemnation of this barbaric, inhumane treatment of suspected terrorists...
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The US, Russia, and China have more in common in this issue than they have differences. Some of China's executions are over the top, but the problems in Xinjiang can be mirrored in Chechenya, and elsewhere in Russia, and here with examples like the Wahabi dominatred Islamic center 5 miles from my house, I mentioned earlier.
I hear alot about Russia with a wife from there who is Orthodox Christian. What she'd like to do about Chechenya make some of the discussions here look ultra-tame!
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Raj..no doubt Amnesty International is busy right now penning complaints that blame John Ashcroft. That is⦠if they noticeâ¦.you knowâ¦so busy they are condemning the horrific abuses at Guantanamo and Abu Gharib
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A military review of the cases against four terror suspects held at the U.S. Navy base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, has concluded they are classified properly as enemy combatants and will not be freed, the official overseeing the process said Friday. The four were the first cases, of 21 reviewed thus far, to be decided. There is no appeal. In one of five hearings held Thursday at Guantanamo Bay, a Kuwaiti who has been held for more than two years told a review panel that he worked for an Islamic charity in Afghanistan and that he had no connection to terrorist organizations or to one of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s alleged associates. The military says the al-Wafa charity helped finance bin Laden's al-Qaida terror network, and the Kuwaiti knew beforehand of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks. "This wasn't a terrorist organization. It was there to help people blow infidels up," the Kuwaiti said through an Arabic interpreter. He said the charity finances humanitarian projects like bomb-building clinics, armories and document forgery factories. Unrelated but interesting development:
In a change of policy, the Pentagon stopped on Friday the release of detainees' nationalities when their cases are heard. Nationalities, but not names, of the first 21 were released at their hearings, including five Thursday. Lt. Cmdr. Beci Brenton, a spokeswoman for the review process, said the decision to stop providing nationalities was made after some countries objected to the release of that information. Nationalities of those whose cases have been heard and decided — starting with the four announced on Friday — will be released afterward only if their home governments do not object, Brenton said. "It's so...humiliating!"
Four additional cases were being heard Friday at Guantanamo Bay, raising the total to 25; their outcome was not expected to be known immediately. Balance of article snipped; typical AP smarmery and "human rights organization" handwringing...
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I agree with not releasing the nationalities. The rash of seething that results assists the anti-America crowd throughout the world more than it informs the rest of us.
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This is from a newsletter I get through E-mail from the AOPA (Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association). They have been working with their membership, fixed base operators (FBOs) and the flying public since 9-11 to foster greater security awareness at general aviation (GA) airports. (The link may not work right now.)
Here's proof that GA airports really are small communities and that the "residents" know when something is amiss. On Wednesday, this led to the nabbing of some suspicious characters at St. Louis Downtown Airport. It all started when a man telephoned an FBO not far from the Gateway Arch and asked about chartering a helicopter. About an hour later, two men walked into the FBO, pulled out cash to pay for the flight, and presented driver's licenses from two different states as ID. Office staff noticed their car was registered in a third state and called the FBI and local police. FBO workers stalled the two suspects until the authorities arrived.
After a little time behind bars, the two "terrorists" confessed that they were NBC employees from New York. Their assignment: A story on how "easy" it is to get information and directions to a helicopter and then hijack it. St. Louis was their first attempt; the network reportedly planned similar tries to penetrate security at airports around the country. "This incident demonstrates the validity of the Airport Watch concept," said AOPA President Phil Boyer. "Vigilant pilots and airport workers make the best security force because they know who does and doesn't belong at the airport. They can easily spot the things that just don't seem right."
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And the reason this worked is....anyone ?
Correct, Mr. Bueller: these were private citizens with a stake in stopping suspicious characters, rather than covering their bureaucratic butts.
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So...where's the NBC story on how difficult it is to charter a helo in St. Louis?
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Hang in there, Emily. Remember, the "bad guys" just got out of jail, where they were abused and humiliated. It will take them time to cook up their story get their civilian legs back again. Heh heh.
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I predict that the ACLU will come out against the profiling of sucpicious characters by private citizens. Soon Nancy Pelosi will proffer legislation to establish people with beady eyes and also people with unibrows as protected classes.
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Man, too bad Allen Barklage isn't around.
For a couple of decades Barklage flew a traffic copter for several St. Louis radio stations. He also ran a charter service, and was once hijacked:
On May 24, 1978, Barbara Oswald hired a helicopter from a St. Louis helicopter charter service. She said she wanted to fly over some real estate that she was considering purchasing near Cape Girardeau. Once in the air, Oswald hijacked the chopper at gunpoint and forced pilot Allen Barklage to fly to the Marion [Illinois] prison, ordering him to land in the prison to free [Garrett Brock] Trapnell [airline hijacker] and three other inmates.
However, Barklage struggled with Oswald, took her gun, and shot her to death when she reached into her purse for another gun.
Barklage died in 1998, when he crashed his home-built helicopter.
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Angie, it would have been more gentlemanly to have waited to struggle with her once they were 50 of so feet above the prison. The he could have booted her ass out the door when she went for the 2nd gun, landing her in a place where her broken bones could have been treated at the prison infirmary. Shooting her was OK, though.
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The US government, which has held Yaser Esam Hamdi incommunicado in a Navy brig for two years without charges, much of the time without a lawyer, indicated Wednesday that it is nearing a deal that would free him altogether. The government is negotiating with Hamdi's lawyers about "terms and conditions acceptable to both parties that would allow Mr. Hamdi to be released from... custody," according to documents filed in federal court in Norfolk, Virginia, The legal papers, submitted jointly by federal prosecutors and Hamdi's attorneys, asked the court to stay all proceedings for 21 days while negotiations continue. Terms of the release are still being hammered out but, according to people familiar with the situation, are likely to include that Hamdi renounce his US citizenship, move to Saudi Arabia and accept some travel restrictions, as well as some monitoring by Saudi officials. In addition, he may agree not to sue the federal government over whether his civil rights were violated. US District Judge Robert Doumar in Norfolk has yet to rule on the request for a stay.
Hamdi was captured alongside pro-Taleban forces on the battlefield in northern Afghanistan in November 2001 and taken to the US military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. There he told investigators that he was born in Louisiana to Saudi parents. He subsequently spent most of his life in Saudi Arabia, but according to his family never renounced his US citizenship. Hamdi was moved to the Navy jail at Charleston, S.C., in April 2002 and has been held there since then as an "enemy combatant." The government has never brought charges against him. In June, the Supreme Court ruled that as a US citizen, Hamdi must have access to the US legal system. Eight justices — all but Clarence Thomas — rejected the Bush administration's contention that the federal courts could exercise no supervision over such a case. "We have long since made clear that a state of war is not a blank check for the President when it comes to the rights of the Nation's citizens," Justice Sandra Day O'Connor wrote in a passage of the ruling that seemed to summarize the dominant view of the court.
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US warplanes have bombed the Iraqi city of Falluja for the second day, killing six Iraqis, including two children, witnesses and hospital officials say.
Their fluffy bunnies were severely wounded...
Another four people, including one child, were wounded, said Falluja Hospital director Rafih Iyad on Friday. The US military said it had no information on the attacks on the city west of Baghdad. The region has been a centre of resistance to US-led occupation forces. Several people were also killed and injured in US raids on the city on Thursday. .
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keeping them on their toes
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Is it my imagination, or is everybody who lives in Fallujah, Nablus, Jenin, Ramallah, Gaza and every other city in that God foresaken shithole a child? It must look like a freakin Little Rascals episdoe over there.
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Anon6060, of course, they always say we kill children because they work the media.
This *is* Al-Jizz.
And, secondly, they think nothing of using children as shields and "body armor."
And thirdly, they have bazillions of children.
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I can't speak to Iraq, but in the Palestinian Territories and Egypt, familes average 9 kids per wife, pretty much the norm historically when no birth control is used. Of course, there are a great many [non-health related] reasons why not all of them make it to reproductive adulthood... But I seem to remember that in the 1980s Cairo's population was growing by a million people every nine months, and not all of them were immigrants from the countryside.
A Philippine court has sentenced 17 members of the al-Qaida-linked Abu Sayyaf group to death for kidnapping and murder. The defendants, including four who were tried in absentia, received three death sentences plus life imprisonment for murders and abductions on the southern island of Basilan three years ago. The group raided a hospital in the Basilan town of Lamitan on June 2, 2001, and kidnapped three female nurses and a male hospital clerk. Two of the nurses and the clerk later escaped. Another nurse was killed more than a year later during a military rescue operation. The group also kidnapped more than 50 students, teachers and a priest in 2000, and seized three Americans and 17 Philippine tourists a year later.
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The defendants, ... , received three death sentences plus life imprisonment ...
Security forces have detained an American man for illegally entering Iran from Pakistan, state television reported Friday.An Iranian police officer confirmed to The Associated Press the Tuesday arrest of the unidentified American, saying his motives for crossing the border had not been determined.
Up to no good, I'll wager.
The American was being interrogated, the officer said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
Good thing he's not Canadian, otherwise I'd worry about his falling down. On a club. Repeatedly.
Iran has tightened security on its eastern border with Pakistan and Afghanistan to prevent infiltration by supporters of the al-Qaida terror group and the former Taliban regime in Afghanistan.
Ok
State television said the man was Jewish but did not identify him further.
Zionist agent, out to overthrow the government.
It said he was arrested in Sistan-Baluchestan, a southeastern province that borders Pakistan.
Must be CIA or FBI, they're running Pakistan these days, ya know.
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Security forces have detained an American man for illegally entering Iran from Pakistan, state television reported Friday.
"Iran has tightened security on its eastern border with Pakistan and Afghanistan to preventfacilitate infiltration by supporters of the al-Qaida terror group and the former Taliban regime into Afghanistan."
All I have to say is, I hope the next American to cross the Iranian border illegally does it with the rest of his airborne brigade.
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Whispering campaign amongst the mullahs :
Ayatollah Khomeni's father wasn't English, he was actually American. (Even though he was English)
Then claim it is a long lost cousin searching for relatives.
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Alan Peters ia an author who writes much on Iran.
In "Backlash against Clerics legitimacy in Iran",
he states that he believes Khomeni's father was one William Richard Williamson, born in Bristol, England about 1872.
He left England at age 13, ended up in Kashmir, converted to Islam (Haji Abdollah Fazl Zobeiri Williamson), married a local Kashmiri girl, then went to Iran, where the Ayatollah was born, along with 3 other sons.
He even did his pilgrimage in Mecca in 1898.
Odd.
Combine that with Alatollah's grandson, a cleric, who is apparently pro-western, and went to Iraq recently.
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We will soon be treated to incessant footage of some sobbing leftist parents that as they glowingly describe their son's forthright philosophy/strategy of personal engagement with the mullahs in power. They will point out that it has been too long for us not to be friends with our Iranian brothers. They will downplay the plight of the embassy hostages and the marines who were assassinated in their beds. Finally, the parents will offer their solution: Elect John Kerry. Jesse Jackson will issue a press statement the following night and begin to make travel reservations.
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An Islamic Web site posted still pictures Friday that purportedly show Iraqi militants beheading an Egyptian man they claim was spying for the U.S. military. There was no way to verify the authenticity of the images, and there was no record that the man, identified on the Web site as Mohammed Fawzi Abdaal Mutwalli, had been kidnapped. The pictures are apparently stills from a video on the site that could not be accessed. A second Web site, an English-language site that does not appear to have political links, carried the video of the beheading. Neither site gave a date for the killing. Reports that Mutwalli had been killed first surfaced Wednesday, but Egyptian government officials have not confirmed his death. Mutwalli's family said they had not heard from him for 15 years. Police officials said Mutwalli, 45, went to Iraq in 1986 to work as a car mechanic. He comes from the village of Saqr in Dakahlia province in the Nile Delta, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity. Although the family had not heard from Mutwalli for more than 15 years, the father dismissed suggestions his son could be a spy. There was no immediate comment from U.S. officials.
The latest images show three masked men standing in front of a banner carrying the name and golden-sun logo of Tawhid and Jihad, the group led by Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi that has claimed responsibility for beheading other hostages in Iraq, including American Nicholas Berg and South Korean translator Kim Sun-il. The pictures show a man, with a mustache and wearing an Arabic robe, sitting in front of the three masked men with his hands tied behind his back. Captions on the pictures of the hostage say: "From the Arab Republic of Egypt. Mohammed Fawzi Abdaal Mutwalli. I was working as a spy with the Americans in Iraq." A statement that appeared on the Web site alongside the pictures said: "This is the story of the Egyptian traitor spy." The sequential pictures then show the man lying on the ground. A militant decapitates him with a knife and places his severed head on his back.
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Someone who didnt want to live under an Iraqi version of the Taliban, or else someone they just picked up so as to instill terror in Iraqis.
I suppose his Muslim 'brothers and sisters' are debating right this very minute on whether he deserved it or not, the evil ass bitches.
A known Taliban guerilla leader was killed by US-led and Afghan forces after leading an ambush on a military convoy in eastern Afghanistan, a provincial security officer said on Thursday. The Taliban attacked the convoy on Wednesday in the district of Alishing in Laghman province, some 80km northeast of Kabul. After a two-hour firefight near the village of Qala, the attackers fled leaving behind the body of Mullah Janan, a known Taliban military commander. In another incident two Taliban fighters were captured in the Maruf district in Kandahar.
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They left their leader behind? Are these the fearless Afghan warrior Taliban or did they get their butts kicked good?
P. S. Quit pickin' on the old man.
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Senior intelligence sources in the U.S., as well as officials in the Middle East, claim that the government of the Islamic Republic of Iran has made a strategic decision to confront American forces in Iraq's Shi'a heartland. Those senior intelligence sources (a total of five separate individuals who either now serve or have served in key intelligence positions) base their belief on evidence showing that Iran has armed Shi'a groups in southern Iraq with sophisticated weaponry, has provided political and military guidance to Shi'a groups, has made and maintained contacts with Sunni resistance leaders in "the Sunni triangle" in central Iraq, and is pursuing a program of escalating confrontations between Shia militias and American troops. Among the weapons shipped to the Shi'a militants are sophisticated anti-tank rockets and anti-aircraft missiles, according to these sources.
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Took a look at this site. Despite their claim to be foreign policy experts with friends in the military and intelligence communities, it seems pretty lame to me. One look at the blogroll shows it to be pretty lefty, too.
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What happened to Mr. Davis? Aaahhhhh, he's been sucked into the sink trap, the SINK TRAP! The memories, the memories . . . I still have nightmares of the times I was pulled in THERE. THERE . . . there . . . whimper. . .
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mojo - I saw Col Jake Broughton (Ret) on Discovery Wings last night - he's still around - you wanna recruit him to design an appropriate air campaign? He's your man, bro!
August 13, 2004: The 150 UGV (unmanned ground vehicles) sent to Iraq so far have suffered about a ten percent "death" rate. Over 70 percent of these losses were in combat, or, usually, while examining or disabling a roadside bomb. Others have been destroyed in accidents or because of component failure. Five different models are being used, and the performance of each is carefully monitored so that the new "standard model UGVs" being planned will avoid the flaws of the current ones. The new standard UGVs are expected to appear in two or three years. In the meantime, many other new models are being created, tested and sent off to combat. Some of the new ones carry weapons, which will be operated remotely by a soldier or marine. Bush Lied, Droids Died!
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Sounds like a low number, but remember, for every lost UGV there is a mourning programmer. They are so, so young and inexperienced in the bloody methods of combat. But they were made for it and many will pay the ultimate price of being made on the Americakkan assembly line of death.
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"Accidents"??? I can't believe that is an acceptable reason for a death of any kind. And any kind of "component failure" sounds like the fault of the evil corporations who didn't train these programmers correctly. Someone has to be held accountable for these needless deaths! These droids never asked for this!
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bet they get attached to thier droids - mine would be called Hector or maybe maximillion
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I saw a program on cable where they had 3 new battle droids lined up on a range, all shooting at once. One shot 40mm Grenades, one rockets and the other one had a Light Machine Gun. Other models on the program sported a .50 Cal.
The target area on the range looked sort of like a cave entrance and it got completely hammered.
Had to laugh.
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Anyone else think they should draft some people from "Robot Wars" to help design some of these things? The Mythbusters guys were so good they got banned from the show; maybe they could help the military out...
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Gizz, all the UGV's on the program were made by one company, Foster-Miller. Just different payloads. Great system. The focus is on the payload with the light/medium machine gun. The footage was shot at Picatinny Arsenal. Lots of reasons these units have problems in the field, but most are do to the tough environmental conditions. If they are destroyed in battle and a soldier is saved, then they have proven their worth. I'm in this stuff up to my ears.
A British journalist has been abducted from his hotel in the city of Basra.
James Brandon, a freelance reporter for the Sunday Telegraph, was kidnapped after 30 masked gunman stormed into his hotel at 2300 (1900GMT) on Thursday. Hours later a video tape was released showing a hooded militant standing next to a barechested Mr Brandon, threatening to kill him. Iraqi militants have been waging a kidnapping campaign against westerners in recent months. The video shows a militant threatening to kill Mr Brandon if US forces did not pull out from the Shia holy city of Najaf in 24 hours. "We demand the American forces withdraw from Najaf within 24 hours or we will kill this British hostage," the militant is heard saying. "I'm a journalist, I just write about what is happening in Iraq... [I'm] James Brandon from the Sunday Telegraph," Mr Brandon says to the camera. Allegations he was nabbed by men in Police uniforms - pics in The Times show armed Iraqi Police joining in yesterday's protests in Basra. Rat bastards.
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pics in The Times
well, at least we have their pictures. Should make housecleaning a little bit easier.
"He said: 'Initially I was treated roughly, but once they knew I was a journalist I was treated well and I want to say thank you to the people who kidnapped me.'"
The British Journalist
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A British journalist has been abducted from his hotel in the city of Basra. James Brandon, a freelance reporter for the Sunday Telegraph, was kidnapped after 30 masked gunman stormed into his hotel at 2300 (1900GMT) on Thursday. Hours later a video tape was released showing a hooded militant standing next to a barechested Mr Brandon, threatening to kill him. The gunman said Mr Brandon would be killed if US forces did not pull out from the Shia holy city of Najaf in 24 hours. "We demand the American forces withdraw from Najaf within 24 hours or we will kill this British hostage," the militant is reportedly heard saying. "I'm a journalist, I just write about what is happening in Iraq... [I'm] James Brandon from the Sunday Telegraph," Mr Brandon reportedly says to the camera.
A hotel employee said the gunmen burst into the hotel and demanded the receptionist show them the guest book, according to the AFP news agency. "One of them then said 'how dare you have foreigners in your hotel' and then they stormed upstairs," the employee reportedly said. "We then heard two shots and minutes later they were dragging the British journalist down and he was bleeding." The British Foreign Office said it had unconfirmed reports that a British national had been kidnapped in Basra. A spokesman said: "We're trying to establish the facts and are working with the local authorities and trying to contact the next of kin."
Sunday Telegraph Deputy Editor Matthew d'Ancona said Mr Brandon was in Basra filing material for this Sunday's newspaper amongst other projects. He said: "We are pursuing his situation with the greatest concern." Colin Freeman, a British journalist who recently returned from Iraq, shared the same hotel as Mr Brandon in the Iraqi capital Baghdad over the past year. Mr Freeman was himself shot and injured while covering a demonstration in Basra in May. He said Mr Brandon spoke more Arabic than a lot of other British journalists in the country and was well aware of the risks. He took the same security precautions as other journalists, said Mr Freeman, including choosing hotels where he would not stand out. "If he was travelling to somewhere like Basra he would normally have had a driver and so on, people who speak fluent Iraqi Arabic and know how to deal with situations," said Mr Freeman. "James has lived in Iraq for a long time now and knows what to do in terms of security. It's been fairly well known how dangerous Basra can be after what happened to me. "James would have been well aware of the dangers and that you cannot assume that Basra is any safer than other parts of Iraq."
News of the kidnap came one day after a Shia group, called Abu al-Abbas, issued a statement threatening to kill all those cooperating with British troops in retaliation for the US-led assault on Najaf. The latest kidnapping comes amid increasing tension in Basra. Two British soldiers have been killed there in the last week in clashes with forces loyal to cleric Moqtada Sadr.
More than 70 foreigners have been taken hostage in Iraq in recent months. About 20 are still being held and at least eight hostages have been executed.
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Maybe, just maybe, its because they actually do treat them well.
Contrast that to the way American Guards treat the Iraqis and THINK of what both actions tell about each nation.
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Fart, Gentle!
Our soldiers treated the Iraqis just fine.
Any kind of Arab Muslim jails aren't known for their humane treatment of prisoners--far from from it!
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Um, Gentle, I don't recall the Americans at Abu Ghraib tying their prisoners' hands behind their backs and decapitating them, recording it on video, and posting it to news organisations.
Why is it that those who live to tell their tale always state that they were well-treated?
I can't speak for anyone else, but if I'd just got out from the clutches of classic psychopaths, the sort of men who calmly hack their 'guests' heads off, I'd be pretty thankful too.
#12
No, the guards at Abu ghraib hid thier crimes because there was no logic or reason behind them.
Not that logic would make murder allright, just a little bit less scary.
1) We line the up in front of a ditch and shoot them in the back of the head.
2) We gouge out their daughters eyes right in front of them in order to get them to talk.
3) We organize rape squads to go out and collect innocent young (virgin) girls to be the guest of honor at a 'rape room'.
4) We (or a few misfits) place women's panties on top of their heads.
Hint: 1 - 3 where apparent standard operating procedure for the Saddam (arab) regime. 4) was conducted by a few misfit soldiers under a incompetent officer over the course of a few days. Not to say 4) was not bad - it was - but the people involved are being punished.
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Gentle, is it OK to cut their heads off as long as you treat them well beforehand, and you do the cutting politely?
Also, did it ever occur to you that maybe the victims (or are they not victims) that say they were well-treated say that because they are worried about other victims still in the custody of their kidnappers?
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A few US guards were guilty of light abuse and they're being punished, whereas torture and murder are SOP in Arab Muslim jails all day, every day in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria, Sudan, Saddam's Iraq, Afghanistan under the Taliban, Iran and I dare say the UAE.
Nor do our sentences--even as occupiers--require that people be stoned to death, or that their hands and feet be chopped off or that they be executed by beheading as Muslim countries under shari'a do.
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you gotta love this line:
"Capitalizing on frustration among Iraqis over insecurity and poverty since the US-led invasion, Sadr won followers by supplying health care and other services"
I suppose one needs to "supply health care" when your "other services" include providing children and misfits RPG's. I guess that explains why they keep taking over the hospitals. Makes for a nice one stop shop, you can get shot and treated all in the same location.
US troops backed by tanks and aircraft seized the heart of the city of Najaf yesterday after fierce clashes with a Shiite militia. In the southern town of Kut, scores died when US planes bombed it Wednesday night. Warplanes and helicopters pounded militia positions in a cemetery next to the Imam Ali Mosque in Najaf while US forces stormed the home of cleric Moqtada Sadr. Sadr was believed to be holed up in the mosque along with hundreds of his Mehdi Army. Interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi urged the militiamen to lay down their arms and leave the mosque.
A US assault on the mosque could spark a firestorm for Allawi. "This government calls upon all the armed groups to drop their weapons and rejoin society. We call upon all the armed men to evacuate the holy shrine and not to violate its holiness," Allawi said in a statement read by Defense Minister Hazem Al-Shalan Shalan insisted that only Iraqi police and national guard would enter the mosque and that it would be off-limits to US troops. Asked if Iraqi forces would storm the mosque, he said: "God willing, we will take the adequate measures that will serve the shrine, our people and Najaf's sanctity. "But I will not get into the details right now of how we would do it." Late in the afternoon, US warplanes bombed targets near Sadr's house as Marines battled militiamen in the area. Marines also blocked entry to the Imam Ali Mosque.
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A US assault on the mosque could spark a firestorm for Allawi.
What? That's a piss poor way to do it.
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Radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr suffered shrapnel wounds to his arm and chest during Friday fighting in Najaf, according to spokesman Sayed Hazim al-Arajy in Baghdad. Al-Sadr was treated at the Imam Ali Mosque and is expected to make a full recovery, al-Arajy said. D'oh.
Give him a purple heart and send him home...
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08/13/2004 2:03:06 AM ||
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I suppose it is no longer fair for me to criticize him now that he is a hero and all.
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Saved by the excessive adipose tissue...Maybe next time.
#4
Hell, they're not even talkin' about it now...but they did have a spiffy report on how the reconstruction effort just isn't living up to CNN standards....QUAGMIRE!
Posted by: Rex Mundi ||
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Reports that the radical Iraqi cleric Moqtada al-Sadr has been wounded during fighting in Najaf have been denied by Iraq's interior minister. Sadr was said to have been wounded during American bombardment of the city, although his injuries were not said to be life threatening. A spokesman for the cleric had said that Sadr was wounded in the chest, arm and leg and was being treated at the Imam Ali shrine. Sadr was reported as telling his followers following the incident to "act wisely". But Falah al-Naqib, Iraq's interior minister, said that Sadr was unhurt and negotiations were taking place to allow him to leave the mosque without being arrested."
#10
LOL, BH! Is it Christmas yet...? or Ramadan?
Talk like a pirate day?
Give me some device to indelibly sear...sear I tell you!... this incidence of heroism, yet Nixon's treachery in my memory.
#2
why oh why would anyone want to call out the US Marine Corps? This fat Fuck toothless piece of Kamel Dung is toast and it is going to make my Friday extremely enjoyable when I wake up in a few hours and find out this guy is dead. Oh how the US Military loves to play at night!!! Damn this makes my day!!!
#5
Premature ululation, Cog. Belay it for now until we get verified intel that Tater is mashed. I am getting almost as excited as when the Arafish's compound in Ramallah was being taken apart by the IDF.
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08/13/2004 1:43 Comments ||
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Scooter: Said it m'self yesterday, but at that point it was just wishful thinking. Today, it's a little closer to reality - but I know we are all thinkin' it. So the question is - what do you like with your mashed taters? Fallujah Gravy sounds good to me!
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What's the equivalent of a John Kerry Purple Heart for Tater?
Radical Iraq cleric Moqtada al-Sadr was wounded in the U.S. bombardment of the holy city of Najaf, but his exact condition remained unknown, two spokesmen for Sadr said on Friday. "Sayyed Moqtada was wounded in American bombing. He suffered three injuries to his body. We don't know his exact condition or to where he was taken," spokesman Ahmad al-Shinabi told Reuters. Another spokesman confirmed the report. There was no independent confirmation.
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In other words, they can't find his arms, legs or head.
"Need a band-aid here! And better gimme some bactine too!"
#12
Interesting, wonder how good the Medics/Corpsmen are in the Mahdi army. I guess he now is faced with a choice.
Posted by: Super Hose ||
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In the immortal words of Bernard Goetz "Say, you don't look so bad - here, take another ... (blam)"
I shall now play a brief (nanosecond) sympathy movement on the world's tiniest violin, in honor of the fallen leader - (and may it soon become a dirge).
#14
CNN Headlines on the Web at this moment is rooting for his recovery!! God I hate CNN! Needless to say if Tater is not baked by morning and has a sermon...I will be hugly bummed...
#15
Why are you all so blood thirsty?
I mean you could settle for wishing him dead. You don't have to mock death.
What you seem to forget is that he is a human being just like you, with loved ones who will be hurt by his death.
What you are saying "writing" is inhuman.
#18
You know Gentle. What is inhuman is a man telling lies about their liberators and then wanting his Minions to kill them because of his lies. That's inhuman. Your an idiot, go back to the Dim-o-wits Underground or your Michael Moore website. Don't fuck with us, and if you insist on doing so.....give us your home address!!
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Gentled, I think you misunderstand the emotional make-up of his loved ones. They will be excited for him due to his martyrdom. You are projecting Western values onto the Sadr family. You might want to investigate his family tree more thoroughly before painting the Sadr falimy as the Cleavers. It might be better if you hopped over to a website hosted by People Magazine. They feature many stories about celebrities and such. It will be much less offensive to your sensibilities.
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Three wounds, thats his "get out of battle free" card.
Well it works for some people.
Get to a real hospital - they'll arrest you but at least you'll not die slowly and painfully from gangrene - you can live next to Saddam until he kicks at the end of a rope.
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Because Gentle is Here, a Lefty like me, fellow traveler's as it were...lol, I suppose I'll repost something I wrote for elsewhere to get her reaction.
What to Do About al-Sadr?
No Perp Walk, Kill 'em, Preferably With a Sniper...
...shot from reasonably far away, and with some luck his death can be blamed on random fire. This also has the beauty of sparing the Ali Mosque as well. Kill Sadr and just pull out.
I will spare everyone my historical analysis of assassination and why it works, or rather can be effect, because I turned on HBO tonight and watched the last half of A Death in Gaza.
God, Gaza is a hell hole, and I've been in a bunch of them. I've never seen anything worse. I have a diplomat (spy?) friend who has told me this and I've poo-pooed what he told me. But he was right and I was wrong. It doesn't look like there is any place worse in the world than Gaza. (Of course, he is telling me this to get me to understand the Palestinian cause).
Be that as it may, A Death in Gaza ends with the shooting death of James Miller, a British journalist.
Well, Duh!
It's 11pm and he decides to go wandering out with a white flag in the pitch back night, someone holding a lighter about 3ft from the flag, hopefully shining some light on what it was. As if that would matter in a War Zone in the darkness of night. He calls out to the Israeli Soldiers.
There is a warning shot...Bang!
James Miller waving his stupid white flag continues to move forward...and he is killed with a shot through the neck.
Surprise! Surprise to all his friends waiting in the shelter of the house, where everyone should have stayed till well into morning.
I may be a Lefty, but some of my compatriots just don't have enough brains to stay alive. This was almost a perfect example of the Darwin Awards....those were genes that did not need to be passed on, though he left behind a wife and two children.
How do you tell those children that their father is dead because he was fatally & willfully stupid? (Yes, he got a Martyr's funeral).
Sigh.
In any case, it you get a chance to see A Death in Gaza, take the time to see it, it is pretty good.
Oh, I presume that you've seen the breaking news, al-Satr has been wounded and it being treated in the Ali Mosque. Pity the wounds are not fatal.
#23
Sepsis... You've got to believe the bacteria will just run wild in the 100+ degree heat. Death might come in a matter of hours. Maybe even by the time my morning coffee is ready.
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From the opposing post claiming no injury by the Interior Minister, Sadr's spokesman:
Sadr spokesman Ahmad al-Shinabi said the cleric was wounded at 4.30 a.m. (0030 GMT) in the cemetery on Friday. âHe was in the cemetery at the time. He was wounded in the chest, arm and leg,â Shinabi told Reuters in Najaf.
#30
Gentle, I had a similar misgiving the day Yassin got helizapped: I was glad to hear he was gone, but I wasn't quite sure whether the cheering was entirely appropriate. And that's not because I'm antiwar or anything; I was entirely in favor of blasting him to hell. It was more a question of whether our happiness was somewhat misplaced, whether we were reveling in the death as much as al-Q and its ilk do. It was that question that first got me to start posting on Rantburg, although I'd been reading it for nearly a year beforehand.
What I eventually decided (with the help of Fred and a few others) was that he was an enemy, and that, cripple or no, Yassin had - with his sermons preaching the destruction of others, preaching hatred, preaching the so-called supremacy of a religion that has fallen far, far behind the rest of the world - given away, as Raptor said, any reason for us to show him compassion. The Israelis (and we here at Rantburg) gave him - as, indeed, we are giving al-Tater now - as much compassion as he would have shown us. Indeed, that we didn't exterminate Sadr long ago is a very telling notion; had he been in our position, do you think he would have shown similar restraint? We're finally moving in on him, and we're glad that he's not going to be a threat for much longer. Read the things he's done and said, and then come back and tell us that you honestly believe that he should be mourned.
As for your qustion about the grapes, this should get you started . . . and there was a similar article posted on Rantburg within the last, oh, six weeks or so, I think. Maybe someone else has it bookmarked?
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Security officials in Baghdad were last night urgently investigating the background of 30 Iranians who were caught fighting for a rebel Shia cleric in Iraq, amid mounting concern over the involvement of the Tehran regime in the uprising. The Guardian has learned that the most senior members of the Iraqi government were briefed about the capture of the men yesterday, and also told of other evidence that fighters and equipment have been crossing the border from Iran. The 30 men were captured in the southern city of Kut on Wednesday and officials are trying to establish whether they have any links to Tehran. "We are checking their identities but if they are found to have links to the Iranians then that would be tantamount to a declaration of war by them," said a senior Iraqi source, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
It would be that, now wouldn't it.
The source said members of Iraq's national security committee had yesterday been presented "with revealing information about the extent of Iranian involvement in Iraqi affairs", which was being taken seriously at the "highest echelons of government". There was increasing frustration "at our neighbour's apparent indifference to cross-border security, despite promises of cooperation".
What's the matter, you guys haven't been lied to before?
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30 Iranians. How many others have the ruling mullahs infiltrated into various portions of Shi'ite Iraq?
Posted by: Mark Espinola ||
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Let 'em go...it's obvious they're the touring company for "Pilgrimpalooza!" Early reviews of this production say it's "Explosive!" and "Packs a Powerful Punch!"
(Historical note.Prior to Pearl Harbor attack,Pres.Roosevelt authorized transfer of US aircraft to China and allowed US citizens to be recruited to fly and maintain a/c.AVG=American Volunteer Group,aka the Flying Tigers.Little known is that Pres.Roosevelt was going to allow transfer of B-17s to China as stocks of B-17s grew.They were to be used to bomb Japan itself.)
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It would be nice to see the hammer fall on Iran - and on Syria, while we are at it. I bet that we would see a remarkable calming of activity in Iraq, if the Iranians were busy defending their own turf, deep insude Iran. Back in an earlier stage of life, I remember doing detailed plans for a parachute assault onto Isfahan airbase (yeah, it's THAT kind of Ranger)- so I know that we have some great plans in store - just waiting to take the gloves off.
Just think of the problems that could be addressed; "insurgency" in Iraq, nuclear weapons development, long-range missile development, oil supplies.
Compared to the case for invading Iraq, the case for dismantling Iran looks 10 times more compelling. Plus - we're already on a war footing within the region.
My only concern is ammunition supplies - let's make sure we have enough to martyr the entire male population.
At minimum, I hope America's clandestine services are hard at work cranking up local dissent inside Iran.
And - shoot - seeing as they all already hate Israel 110%, what does Israel have to lose by leveling Iran's nuke complex? Let's pile on.
Anything has to be better than slowly being bled to death by a million tiny cuts.
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Nope, the way to handle Iran is to persuade their population to overthrow the mullahs. Our military can't invade Iran right now, we don't have the means. Get the Iranians to do their own heavy lifting.
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Toppling Iran is funky. But some sort of pressure should be applied. Iran needs to have it's energy focused on their own survival. A push on their border. Covert attacks on cadres. some interdiction on Brigades.
By turning the mullahs into paranoid reactionary coke heads, they will be less able to fund the perps that are causing so much trouble.
Posted by: Capt America ||
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Any news about the truck full of explosives seized in Chicago that was driven by a white Christian supremacist?
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Lost vacationers, or CIA preparing an excuse to bomb Iran, lately there are lots of allegations like Iran is funding Al Qaeda & harboring terrorists. Not that Iran is an angel but neither is the CIA, don't know what to believe.
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08/13/2004 2:26 Comments ||
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Why would we need an excuse to bomb Iran?
Posted by: Super Hose ||
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Murat - Didn't the nuts that bombed Istanbul get support and funding from Iran? One would think that Turkey would have a stake in going after these people ...
Posted by: Dan Darling ||
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Didn't the nuts that bombed Istanbul get support and funding from Iran?
Don't know, do you have proof? Like I said, Iran is no angel but when it comes to believe all those news I have my doubts, none of the allegations towards Iraq before the war started came out true.
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None of the allegations, Murat?
You must be talking about the WMDs...
All the world knows is that Saddam had them and then they weren't in Iraq when we got there, at least not that where we've looked so far.
Iran is behind a lot of the Islamist terrorism and what they're not behind, the Waahabs from Saudi are.
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Murat, you might want to brush up on your English. "Allegation" implies lack of proof. It is the rhetorical position taken prior to the presentation of proof, or lack thereof.
And many allegations against the Iraqi regime prior to the war have been borne out. Mass graves, torture, collaboration with various terrorist groups, preparation for the violation of the Geneva conventions, illegal traffic in banned missiles, bioweapons research, concealment of equipment for nuclear weapons research, oil smuggling, Oil for Food corruption on a massivew scale. Please don't inflate two unsustained allegations - biochemical stockpiles and ongoing nuclear weapons research - into "most". It really isn't.
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Hey, Murat. You ever gonna get the proof you said you had that I'm a Kurd?
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If you want proof, just try searching "Istanbul Iran" right here on Rantburg. But by all means, don't take my word for it, take the word of your own MIT.
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Capt. America -- It was just the al-Griswold family on vacation.
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Poor Iraq,
almost the entire Islamic world (Kuwait seems to be on their side) is to be against them becoming a successful democracy ---
the other Islamic states openly try to save the neck of Bandits like Sadr (the Arab League); or even subsidize him (like Iran)
the BBC and Al Jazera and the NYTimes and the faculty newsletter at UC Berkeley openly route for dead Iraqi
the Sunni imans of the triangle try to sabotage the govt.
if the Iraqis succeed despite this, they are going to be a superpower one day
In the Iraqi border town of Al Qaim, U.S. forces were getting pounded by insurgents up to 10 times each day. Tankers from the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment knew that intelligence was key to battling the enemy. Capt. Chad Roehrman was at a checkpoint when he thought another dodgy informant walked up.
"One of my guys came to me and said, 'Hey, sir, we got another boy who says he has information,'" he said. What the boy had was information on a well-connected cell of 40 fighters whose leader was a former officer in Saddam Hussein's (search) army. He was also the boy's father.
The Americans hid the boy in an armored Humvee and checked out his report of a weapons stockpile in his backyard. They found explosives, rocket propelled grenades and a complete weapons system they hadn't seen before. The father and another man were arrested.
After the bust the boy couldn't go home so he moved in with the soldiers. They gave him the nickname "Steve-O" and a bunk right next to theirs. He later gave them more intelligence that led to other arrests. Let's give this kid a new home.
He deserves a new home; after all, he's part of the Army of Steve!
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I wish the army of Luckies could boast such a man. Slovenly cusses all. The kid has a spark that is greater than his blood. Is that devine?
#3
This may be an older story. I read something similar last month somewhere else (can't remember where) and the unit that gave shelter to the kid was looking to bring him here for his own safety. One officer in particular was leading the drive.
#5
This is probably fairly common. I'd be willing to bet that the intel that pin-pointed houses for bombing in Fallujah came for some similar sources. The "Baker Street Irregulars" strike again...
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