President Obama confronted Chinese President Xi Jinping here Saturday with specific evidence of China's widespread theft of intellectual property from U.S. companies and warned the newly minted Chinese leader that continued Âcybertheft would undermine economic ties between the rival nations, U.S. officials said.
The discussion came near the end of a high-stakes and unusual summit, where Obama and Xi reached breakthroughs on other critical issues, including an agreement to work together to denuclearize North Korea and to confront global climate change. Whaddabout gun control? Did they agree on gun control? And the gay, le$bian, bi-directional issue? Where does China stand on that? Did China give the Prez any tips on monitoring citizens?
"The president went through this in some detail," Donilon said, adding that Obama told Xi that "if there continues to be this direct theft of United States property that this was going to be a very difficult problem in the economic relationship and was going to be an inhibitor to the relationship reaching its full potential."
Obama and Xi also discussed mutual security concerns, chiefly North Korea's nuclear provocations, and arrived at what Donilon described as a "shared threat analysis." Donilon said Obama and Xi agreed that neither China nor the United States would accept North Korea as a nuclear armed state. Well, I feel better now! But isn't it a little late for that? You want to stop Chinese cyber-hacking? Commission American slacker dudes to retaliate, and give them letters of marque... Arrrr! Did someone say 'prize money?'
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I have a feeling this meeting may have been more about comparing notes on the monitoring of Americans than for Obama to complain about Chinese mis behaviors. After all a communist china has more in common with Obama Marxist than not.
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You leave all the doors and windows open and then you wonder why you got ripped off. Naive or complicit?
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after all - they are part owners...
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Various MSM-Net pundits are arguing that Baby Assad, + most espec RUSSIA + IRAN, HAVE WON NOT ONLY THE BATTLE FOR QUSAYR BUT THE BATTLE FOR SYRIA AS WELL.
Fox's Charles Krauthammer = Russia + Iran acted decisively while Obama + Washington diddled, i.e. IIUC ENGAGED IN TRADITIONAL INTER-POLITICAL HYPERCORRECTNESS, RANTING-N-RAVING-DEMANDIN' AGZ ASSAD IN FULL SOUND-N-FURY BUT ULTIMATELY DOING + ACHIEVING NOTHING, HENCE ASSAD'S VICTORY.
POTUS Obama's GWOT is a de facto failure in all but official WH = US Govt. admission, + despite the death of OBL at Abbottabad.
[WASHINGTONEXAMINER] Vice President Joe Foreign Policy Whiz Kid Biden The former Senator-for-Life from Delaware, an example of the kind of top-notch Washington intellect to be found in the World's Greatest Deliberative Body... is pushing aside the scandals plaguing his boss to renew his war on guns, an unusual doubling down on a key fight the administration was humiliated on just two months ago.
In an email to supporters, Biden said, "Look, I've been in politics a long time now. And I've seen time and time again that real, lasting change isn't always immediate -- but as long as you don't give up, you can win battles that you never thought possible."
Biden was the architect of the administration's gun control plan that included a ban on assault weapons. But the time it made it to the Senate floor, it had been watered down to just an expanded background check program and even that lost, leaving the White House with nothing.
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This gives Biden something to chew on. Useful idiots are not needed at the moment. He's harmlessly off in the corner, well away from the daily events and crisis of his boss.
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Give up your assault on the 2nd Amendment Joe; it ain't flying. However, you, "O", Hillary, Finestein, and other Progressives are trying hard to find backdoor approaches such as signing the U.N. Small Arms Treaty. There would be a show-down between our Constitution and an illegal U.N. dictate. This backdoor approach to gun control most likely would end badly and have unintended consequences.
[BLOGS.TELEGRAPH.CO.UK] 2. The Obama presidency is imperial in style and outlook
Leading conservative talk radio host Mark Levin was absolutely right when he blasted Barack Obama on Fox News back in January as "an imperial president." It would be hard to find a US president in recent times who has behaved in a more arrogant fashion than President Obama, and that includes Richard Nixon. The Obama White House is routinely disdainful of criticism, sneeringly dismissive of Congressional opposition, nasty and brutish towards dissenting voices in the media, and completely lacking in humility. Even veteran reporters such as Bob Woodward, one of two journalists who broke the Watergate scandal, have found themselves on the sharp end of the White House's boot after publishing unflattering stories. Woodward was warned earlier this year by a senior White House official that he would "regret" his remarks about the president's handling of the sequester issue. At the same time the Obama presidency exudes a shameless "let them eat cake" mentality, abundantly on display with the president's lavish vacations and golfing expeditions while millions of American families have struggled to pay their mortgage and stay afloat against the backdrop in recent years of the biggest economic downturn since the Great Depression.
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Just add "The least trusted politician since Nero."
No, I did not drink the "Cool Aid" is going to be heard around America when this man's name is mentioned after August 2013...Nixon resigned in Aug 09, 1974.
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The only way Obama is going to leave the White House before his term is up is in a pine box.
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I agree Badanov, he'll be in the very last boat lowered. My fear is wounded, cornered, and ineffective, he will do something wildly outrageous. This is a very dangerous fellow.
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The only way Obama is going to leave the White House before his term is up is in a pine box.
Are we to believe that one who has repeatedly shown utmost disdain for both USA's written constitution and unwritten customs, will respect the 22 amendment?
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Sadly, you could be correct g(r)om. The setting up of instruments of tyranny certainly cannot be denied. When he provided unelected advisors Secret Service protection, I began suspecting a shadow government.
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Depends. If the Donks chances for the 2014 start to look like the chart of the 1929 Crash, self preservation may kick in Congress. That's about the only scenario in which he leaves early. Of course the Stupid Party will not expend its resources on hammering the crimes and thus the illegitimacy of the expanded government powers to really make it hurt. That's part of their problem with being members of the Beltway Party. Power over principle. Like the Paleos, they'll take the opportunity to pass up an opportunity.
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SECRET SERVICE OATH OF OFFICE: "I, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."
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That's a nice oath, Uncle P., but I seem to remember Bambi took an oath to unhold the Constitution as well - and we've seen how that worked out. >:-(
Guess it depends on which SS agents' fealty is to our Constitution, and which agents' actual fealty is to their WH Massa. We know where their "leadership's" loyalty lies.
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Geez Nile, where were you when his leadershipness leaked the secrets of UK nuclear submarines? Or have you not noticed the passive-aggressive style of collectivism where policy is determined by pre-approved and anonymous leaks?
Out of the blue, eh? Quelle surprise? Well, welcome aboard, I'll check and see if there is a cabin available.
PS. Mark Lavin is illegal to read, thoughtcrime and all.
In his first public comments on the controversy, Obama emphasized the congressional and judicial oversight of the surveillance programs. He also stressed their effectiveness.
"I came in with a healthy skepticism about these programs," Obama said Friday. Especially since they were being practiced by his predecessor. As Trotsky once said to a companion, after the companion had made a distasteful remark about the new Red Army: "yes, but it's our army now."
But he said the value in disrupting terrorism outweighed any "modest encroachments on privacy. . . . You know, net, it was worth us doing." Obviously off-teleprompter.
U.S. officials, civil liberties groups and security experts said the revelations show that, as much as Obama has sought to distance himself from the counterterrorism policies of his predecessor, he has embraced and in some cases expanded controversial programs that originated under Bush.
"If you think about the president's speeches, there has been an attempt to articulate a discontinuity" from Bush on a range of issues, including prisoner interrogations and the Guantanamo Bay detention camp, said Steven Aftergood, at the Federation of American Scientists. "But when it comes to surveillance," Aftergood said, "there's no clear repudiation. On the contrary, there appeared to be an embrace and an endorsement all the way through."
Bush loyalists made similar points in ways that at times bordered on gloating. I'll only gloat when he is excoriated by the press, like Bush was.
"Drone strikes. Wiretaps. Gitmo. O is carrying out Bush's 4th term," said former Bush administration spokesman Ari Fleischer.
Statistics released by the Justice Department indicate that some surveillance operations authorized by the court have expanded under Obama and that others have remained at levels established under Bush. Requests for warrants under the provision used to compel Verizon to turn over data have surged, from 13 in 2008 to 212 last year. Just as the use of political power to cow opponents has surged!
Meanwhile, Obama has fought legal attempts to force the government to disclose Justice Department opinions that provide the legal basis for NSA surveillance programs. In 2011, the administration released two heavily redacted memos that had been in effect under Bush, but it has yet to produce any of its own. The most transparent regime government since ... Stalin?
Since 2008, "the administration has changed, Congress has changed, leadership of intelligence agencies has changed," said Jameel Jaffer, deputy legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union, which has been involved in the effort to obtain the memos. But surveillance, Jaffer said, "grows steadily bigger and less accountable every year." I never thought I'd say this, but - Go, ACLU!
"I think it's interesting that there are some folks on the left, but also some folks on the right who are now worried about it who weren't worried about it when it was a Republican president," Obama said. Ironic, isn't it? He used to be worried about it, but now he's not. I suppose narcissists can't appreciate irony?
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ACLU makes for strange bedfellows at times. Usually, I am suspect of them too. A couple of other watchdog groups working to maintain rights are: Judicial Watch (political corruption watchdog), Media Research Center (MSM bias watchdog), EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation) {collection/use of data watchdog). They are somewhat disparate groups.
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This may constitute heterodox thought but I do think the ACLU does some useful things. They are firm advocates of free speech and of privacy, and that's important to all of us. That they are kooky in a number of other cases just means that we have to filter what they say/do.
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"They are firm advocates of free speech and of privacy as long as it doesn't involve guns"
FTFY, Steve.
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As I understand Champ's position, anything a federal employee does is top secret; and anything a private citizen does is fair game for surveillance and disclosure. That's not what I got out of the Constitution.
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Asshole, plenty of people were worried about it, on all sides, and now everyone's suspicions are true. If there is a person in the ACLU who has picked up a history book they know that if there are detailed files about his enemies, then there are binders full of his allies - to you in line and to yank the chain.
If the ACLU thinks its the coq of the yard, it should also realize its the next on the block.
Perhaps TOTUS was detained for mentioning in a good light a Bush policy.
As modest as Ron Jeremy in a thong selling bibles door-to-door. If this Boooosh policy was so bad, why was it not cancelled? Liar.
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The discussion came near the end of a high-stakes and unusual summit, where Obama and Xi reached breakthroughs on other critical issues, including an agreement to work together to denuclearize North Korea and to confront global climate change.
[WASHINGTONEXAMINER] Vice President 
Bush loyalists made similar points in ways that at times bordered on gloating. 
