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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Ambulance drives into West Side shootout
[Chicago Tribune] "There were definitely bullets flying," Langford said.

Other responding firefighters and ambulances were told to hang back until the shooting stopped, Langford said.

"We have to hold until police get there, it's not safe," Langford said. "They called for help and police responded."

Two men were shot -- one in the head, the other in the chest -- and both taken to Stroger hospital. The ambulance that rolled into the scene was one of two that ended up transporting the men shot.

No fire department personnel were maimed and it didn't appear that anyone was firing toward the ambulances, and the ambulances weren't damaged during the shooting.

Police taped off much of Lake Street west of Homan Avenue toward St. Louis Avenue, including the vacant lots on the north side of Lake Street. Green Line trains rumbled overhead as Sherlocks searched the desolate block for evidence.

People scattered after the shooting and nobody lingered at the scene of the crime. A small crowd could be heard about a block west outside a small bar, partying next to a car.
Posted by: Fred || 06/09/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Geez, I used to live on Homan Avenue, but a good bit farther south - Evergreen Park, to be precise, and a long, long time ago - from Kindergarten thru the sixth grade, to be precise.
Posted by: Bobby || 06/09/2013 7:55 Comments || Top||


Ricin Suspect Was Tracked Via Mail Scanners - Smoking Gun
JUNE 7--
Son of PRISM
another A high-tech computer system that captures images of..... "every mail piece that is processed" by the United State Postal Service was critical in helping federal agents track the Texas woman arrested today for allegedly sending ricin-tainted letters to President Barack Obama and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

In a U.S. District Court complaint filed today against Shannon Guess Richardson, an FBI agent details how investigators traced the ricin letters back to New Boston, Texas, where the 35-year-old Richardson lives with her husband.

The Bloomberg letter was opened at a municipal mail center in Manhattan on May 24, while the letter to The Champ was intercepted May 30 at an off-site White House mail facility near Camp Williams Utah. A third ricin letter--sent to an anti-gun group funded by Bloomberg--was received at a Washington, D.C. office on May 26.

According to FBI Agent James Spiropoulos, investigators accessed a Postal Service computer system that "incorporates a Mail Isolation Control and Tracking (MICT) program which photographs and captures an image and megadata of every mail piece that is processed." Agents were able to obtain front and back images of about 20 mail pieces that had been processed "immediately before the mail piece addressed to Mayor Bloomberg."
MICT and PRISM...do they talk ?
A review of that mail revealed that each piece carried return addresses listing zip codes in the New Boston area.

A similar analysis of 40 mail pieces that were processed "immediately before and after the mail piece addressed to The Champ" showed that several of those letters listed addresses in two Texas cities near New Boston.

According to the felony complaint against Richardson, she confessed yesterday to "mailing the three letters--knowing that they contained ricin." She repeated earlier claims that her husband Nathaniel, who has not been charged, was involved with the Obama and Bloomberg mailings. Richardson alleged that her spouse "typed the letters and made her print and mail them," reported Agent Spiropoulos.
Good work Spiro. Please contact Nate, he says he owes you a case of Mythos.
Wasn't Spiro Kojak's brother in law?
If convicted of the ricin mailings, Richardson, an aspiring actress, faces a maximum of 10 years in prison and fine of up to $250,000.
Her confession should assist the conviction.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/09/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Breatharian moonbat attempts to live on sunlight and water for six months.
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Swedish royal wedding: Princess Madeleine's wedding at a glance
[CTVNEWS.CA]
Kewt couple. Folks, this is what you call winning life's lottery :o)
Sweden's Princess Madeleine married New York banker Christopher O'Neill in a grand ceremony in Stockholm on Saturday. Here's a look at key facts about the couple and the wedding.

Princess Madeleine, 30, is the youngest of King Carl XVI Gustaf and Queen Silvia's three children and fourth in line to the throne. She has studied child psychology, art history, ethnology and history at university and is known for her stylish clothes and glamorous lifestyle. She now lives in New York where she works for the nonprofit World Childhood Foundation, founded by her mother.

British-American Christopher O'Neill works as a partner and head of research at Noster Capital in New York. His late father, Paul O'Neill, set up the European head office of Oppenheimer & Co in London in the 1960s and his mother, Eva Maria O'Neill, is involved in several charities for the preservation of Salzburg, Austria. He went to boarding school in Switzerland, holds a bachelor's degree in international relations from Boston University and a master's degree from Columbia Business School in New York.

The wedding ceremony took place at the Royal Chapel in central Stockholm. After the wedding, a 21-gun salute was fired at five second intervals and the couple greeted the public outside the castle. They then travelled in a procession through the capital in a special horse-drawn carriage, the Parade Barouche, that was also used by the king and queen at their weddings. Finally they sailed by boat to the royal residence and UNESCO World Heritage site Drottningholm Palace, 10 kilometers (six miles) west of the city center, where a private wedding reception will be held.
Posted by: Fred || 06/09/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  King Carl XVI Gustaf

Decedent of the Napoleonic Marshal of France Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte. Not necessarily the best and brightest on the battlefield, but the most politically astute and successful of the bunch.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 06/09/2013 8:28 Comments || Top||


Africa North
'No Nile, no Egypt', Cairo warns over Ethiopia dam
Some would say, no Egypt since 639 AD
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 06/09/2013 14:25 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Deal...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 06/09/2013 15:06 Comments || Top||

#2  That could be arranged ....
Posted by: Barbara || 06/09/2013 15:31 Comments || Top||

#3  What about this list:


  1. Blood,
  2. fogs,
  3. lice,
  4. flies,
  5. pestilence,
  6. boils,
  7. hail,
  8. locusts,
  9. darkness,
  10. the slaying of the first-born.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 06/09/2013 15:58 Comments || Top||

#4  Given how the Egyptians have treated Christian Copts, the Christian Ethiopians might be taking a "it's a nice little river you got there. Shame anything should happen to it" approach.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 06/09/2013 17:55 Comments || Top||

#5 
Posted by: DarthVader || 06/09/2013 19:23 Comments || Top||


Britain
CAIR urges British mosques to install panic alarms and safe rooms
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has been advising British mosques on security measures, including the installation of safe rooms and panic alarms, warning that they are at greater risk than in any other western country.

The group has discussed its revamped security regulations with the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) following the murder of Drummer Lee Rigby in Woolwich, which it said had even provoked attacks in the United States.

The security measures urged by CAIR, America's largest Muslim advocacy group, encourage the building of transparent fences around mosques, wire screens on windows, designated security personnel, three-inch-thick doors, panic alarms and safe rooms.

CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper said, "From the outside it definitely seems UK mosques are more at risk than anywhere, including the States. There have been a number of recent incidents targeting UK mosques, groups like the English Defence League marching on mosques and a spike in violent right-wing groups."

Ibrahim Mogra, assistant secretary general of the MCB, said it was vital mosques not become too security conscious. He said, "We don't want mosques going overboard, where it's almost like a fortified place. We want these places to be open, and seen to be welcoming places that people would not hesitate to visit. Clearly our American friends have shown concern for us and have shared their safety and security measures. Although not all are relevant, we can learn from each other's experiences. The common foe is a criminal we wish to keep out."
Posted by: ryuge || 06/09/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: CAIR

#1  Don't forget the cameras. With tape recording, so they can't be edited on the fly.
Posted by: Bobby || 06/09/2013 7:53 Comments || Top||

#2  And don't forget the weapons cache's - a mosque isn't a mosque without an armory!
Posted by: CrazyFool || 06/09/2013 8:15 Comments || Top||

#3  Meanwhile, British soldiers are instructed not to wear army uniforms in public.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/09/2013 8:18 Comments || Top||

#4  I've have not seen similar recommendations from CAIR for Christians and Jews in Muslim countries. Tempers still seem to high in Britain over the decapitation murder of the soldier in front of the barracks--and rightly so. Over here, it sounds like the Brits are about to go Medieval over the Muslims in Britain.

Anyone have first hand info about what's going on across the pond in this regard?
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/09/2013 10:59 Comments || Top||


Europe
Mall security under suspicion after attack on rabbi in Germany
Security guards at a shopping center in Offenbach, western Germany, have been accused of forcing a rabbi to delete photos he took as evidence after being attacked by a group of youths. Rabbi Mendel Gurewitz said he was verbally abused, followed, and physically attacked last Sunday in the KOMM-Center shopping arcade by a group of around ten youths.

According to a report in Die Welt, security personnel demanded that the rabbi delete photos he had taken of his attackers, as did a police officer on the phone. The officer has since apologized.

Gurewitz also said the guards had left him to leave the center on his own, and had been followed by his assailants until he was picked up in a car by an acquaintance passing by chance.

Darmstadt police confirmed that an investigation into suspected abuse and bodily injury had begun.

The center's manager Frank Middendorf said that the actions of security personnel would be "thoroughly investigated." He added that he had apologized to a Jewish community organization and would meet representatives in the coming week.
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Small Jewish enclave endures near Dutch 'Sharia triangle'
A dozen Jewish households remain in the little-known Jewish enclave known as the Van Ostade Housing Project. The gated community of 200 units built in the 1880s to house poor Jews is surrounded by the Schilderswijk neighborhood. 91% of Schilderswijk residents are foreign-born, half of them Moroccan or Turkish.

Earlier this month, Schilderswijk became national news after a Dutch newspaper reported that part of the neighborhood had become a "Sharia triangle" that police do not dare enter. The report prompted a high-profile visit from Geert Wilders, whose party called this month for a government study of anti-Semitism among Muslim immigrants. During his visit, Wilders said, "It is unacceptable that women in skirts should be harassed here. This is Holland. Sharia does not apply here."

Dutch police deny that Schilderswijk has become lawless and insist they have security under control. But what Wilders fears is already a reality for some Jews of Van Ostade. Iris Tzur said it's not comfortable for a blonde woman in a dress to walk the streets of Schilderswijk. "You get a lot of stares and comments," she said.

Pinchas Moelker, an Orthodox Jewish resident, says he hides his yarmulke under a hat and always tucks in the knitted fringes of his prayer shawl. He also installed a low-profile mezuzah that blends into the door frame. Others here have installed mezuzahs inside their doors.

Such concerns aside, the remaining Jews of Van Ostade do not plan to leave, saying they share a sense of togetherness that richer, less immigrant-heavy neighborhoods lack. Moelker hosts weekly Shabbat dinners for his neighbors, "who get so drunk that they zigzag all the way back home."

Avi Genosar, who served in an elite Israeli army unit before coming to Holland to study, says the area's high crime levels don't bother him. He said, "Here I can get fresh, cheap vegetables, tahini, olive oil and the other Middle Eastern foods I'm used to."

Earlier this month, De Telegraaf reported that a local school that had been a Jewish institution before the Holocaust shelved plans to install a commemorative plaque, afraid it would upset Muslims. Separately, a sign advertising an exhibition about the school's Jewish history was placed inside lest it upset the locals, a co-organizer of the event told De Telegraaf.
This article starring:
Geert Wilders
Posted by: ryuge || 06/09/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


The Grand Turk
Fresh Protests in Turkey
from english al-arabiya
Tens of thousands of demonstrators packed the streets of Turkish cities on Saturday [6-8-13], challenging Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's call to end their civil uprising with a chorus of angry chants and a shower of red flares.

The government said the protests were "under control" even as the largest crowds yet packed every inch of Istanbul's Taksim Square, the epicenter of nine days of nationwide unrest.

As the sun set over Taksim, which has seen no police presence since officers pulled out of the site last Saturday, fans from rival football teams Fenerbahce, Besiktas and Galatasaray united in the square. They set off red flares to loud cheers from the crowd.

"I have never experienced this friendship, this solidarity among Turks before," said Fenerbahce supporter Rustu Ozmen.
Posted by: lord garth || 06/09/2013 00:31 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


India-Pakistan
18 Arrested in India after Brutal Witchcraft Killing
[An Nahar] At least 18 tribal villagers in India's northeast were placed in durance vile
Don't shoot, coppers! I'm comin' out!
for hacking to death a man they suspected of practicing witchcraft, police said Saturday.

They claimed they were told to kill the victim by a Hindu goddess who appeared in their dreams.

Mobs have killed at least 200 people over the past five years who they have accused of practicing sorcery and witchcraft -- mainly in tribal-dominated areas of western and northern Assam state, Indian police say.

The killing took place on Friday at a tea estate village in Assam's Cachar district, 300 kilometers (180 miles) south of the impoverished state's main city of Guwahati.

Cachar district police chief Diganta Bora told Agence La Belle France Presse by telephone that the attack was "barbaric with a group of hysterical villagers sacrificing the man by piercing his neck with sharp weapons and chanting religious hymns."

The villagers who took part in the killing of the 55-year-old man believed the victim was practicing witchcraft and were seeking to "appease the goddess Kali", the Hindu deity of destruction, Bora said.

"Villagers said during police questioning the goddess told them in their dreams to kill this man to prevent disease and other ills from spreading into their village," Bora said.

Superstitious beliefs, black magic and demonology are integral to tribal customs in parts of Assam, Tripura and other northeastern states, authorities say.

"Most of the people were drunk and dancing with the dead body in front of them and later they buried him a pit," the police official said, adding the investigation into the death was still under way.

"We will soon pick up some more people directly involved in this heinous crime that was inspired by superstitious beliefs," Bora said.

Assam's police inspector general, Kula Saikia, called such killings "a really big problem" for authorities.

Police in the state have set up a program, called Project Prahari (Vigilance), that involves community policing and holding regular education campaigns among tribal chiefs and village elders.

"Simply enforcing the law and punishing the guilty are inadequate measures. There has to be an attitudinal change," Saikia said.
Posted by: Fred || 06/09/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Measles claims four more lives
[Dawn] Measles claimed the lives of four more children all over the province during the last 24 hours.

According to a Health Department front man, two children succumbed to the disease in Hafizabad district, one each in Toba Tek Singh and at Children's Hospital.

Meanwhile,
...back at the secret hideout, Scarface Al sneeringly put his proposition to little Nell...
195 more measles cases were reported in Punjab, including 19 in Lahore, during the last 24 hours, he said.

The front man said the toll had reached 144 all over the province, including 80 in Lahore alone, since January.
Posted by: Fred || 06/09/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:


Shahbaz declares war against measles
[Dawn] Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif has approved an action plan for protecting children against measles and the provision of best treatment facilities at hospitals.

He has also sought a vigorous campaign against the disease on a war footing. The CM was chairing a meeting here on Friday to review the situation following the outbreak of measles in the province and the measures to be taken for controlling the menace.

Declaring a war against the disease, he said all-out steps would be taken to save children and he would personally review the situation weekly, while the chief secretary would preside over a daily meeting.

Shahbaz directed a special campaign for public awareness against measles on the pattern of dengue, and utilising the system devised by the Punjab Information Technology Board for collecting data.

He sought a vaccination campaign at union council level and ensuring inoculation of every child from nine months to 10 years of age. He directed to accelerate the process of purchase of vaccine without waiting for international donors. He urged upon MNAs and MPAs to sympathise with the families affected by measles and daily monitor the situation in their areas.

Expressing indignation over the failure to launch an immunisation campaign against measles in time and timely purchase of the vaccine, Shahbaz constituted a three-member inquiry committee to be headed by Home Secretary Shahid Khan, seeking a report within 48 hours.

The health secretary told the meeting 15,998 children had been affected in Punjab. He said in the first phase, the vaccination campaign would be launched in 12 districts of the province from June 24 to July 4, and the remaining districts would be covered in the second phase.

He said vitamin A capsules would also be given out during the campaign for developing resistance among children.
Posted by: Fred || 06/09/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:


Tutor among boy's captors held in Peshawar
[Dawn] Local police on Friday tossed in the clink
Youse'll never take me alive coppers!... [BANG!]... Ow!... I quit!
a boy's three kidnappers, including his tutor, and recovered ransom.

ASP (cantonment circle) Bilal Zafar told a news conference here that 10-year-old student Tanveer Ali Shah had disappeared on June 3 and it later emerged that he was kidnapped.

He said the kidnappers had demanded ransom for the boy's release.

Father of the boy Saeedullah of Warsak Road had informed Michini Gate police about the disappearance of his son and said the boy had gone to the house of tutor Waqas on Warsak Road but didn't return.

He said he had informed police about the son's disappearance and searched for him everywhere in the city but to no avail.
The boy's father said he later received a call from kidnappers, who demanded the Rs1.2 million ransom.

"We paid ransom to kidnappers, who freed the boy in Kohat," he said.

The ASP said Sherlocks had taken the tutor and accomplices Abid and Wazir of Peshtakhara area into custody for interrogation during which he had confessed to the abduction.

He also said the arrested men had named other accomplices but they had yet to be arrested.

Tutor Waqas said he had kidnapped the boy for ransom as he hadn't paid his monthly fee.

Police said the arrested men seemed to be members of a well-organised gang of kidnapers.

The said of the Rs1.2 million rupees, Rs0.1 million had been recovered and the remaining would be recovered soon.

The accused have been booked at Michni Gate cop shoppe.
Posted by: Fred || 06/09/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
'Google set to acquire Israeli app Waze for $1.3b'
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 06/09/2013 14:22 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Government
Guns & Gear: House approves amendment to restrict DHS bulk ammo buys
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/09/2013 08:16 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Good. This was either an attempt to buy up all available ammo, or stockpiling for the big coup against the 2nd amendment. This regime cannot be trusted
Posted by: Frank G || 06/09/2013 13:43 Comments || Top||

#2  huh. brb. someone knocking on my door
Posted by: Frank G || 06/09/2013 13:43 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
15 Ways to Be "Rural"
Lenoir is a small town in western North Carolina. It has 18,000 people, a Wal-Mart, a Waffle House and an annual parade famous for people carrying pans of blackberry cobbler.

Is it a rural place?
Are the 18,000 in a square mile or 180 square miles?
The U.S. government has an answer: Yes.

No.

Yes. Yes. No. No. No. Yes. No. No. No. No. No.

The problem is that the U.S. government has at least 15 official definitions of the word "rural," used by various agencies to parcel out $37 billion-plus in federal money for "rural development." And each one is different.
Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, doncha know.
In one program, for instance, "rural" is defined as any place with fewer than 50,000 residents. So Lenoir is rural, and eligible for money. But in another, only towns smaller than 2,500 residents are "rural." There are 11 definitions of "rural" in use within the U.S. Department of Agriculture alone.

These varying definitions have become a baroque example of redundancy and duplication in Washington. They mean extra costs for taxpayers -- and extra hassle for small-town officials -- as separate offices ask them the same question in up to 15 different ways.

"If you were starting from a blank slate, providing one definition would be optimal," said Doug O'Brien, the USDA official in charge of rural development programs. But optimal is not happening. This week the Senate is expected to pass a bill that would pare down the list of definitions. Down to nine.

The list has grown in the way government duplication often does: one good intention at a time. Frequently, a new set of legislators or bureaucrats has set up a program to help rural communities, and has come up with its own definition of what "rural" ought to mean.

But nobody bothers to erase the other definitions already on the books.
Last year's laws - who cares?
Then, repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Today, the government's official definitions of "rural" include one written in 1936: an area with fewer than 10,000 people. That one is still used to parcel out rural telecommunications grants. Another definition was written in 1949: any place with fewer than 2,500 people. It is used for housing-aid programs.
Like it would've made a huge difference if that law had used the old definition. No doubt the law was used to exclude some out-of-favor town with 5,298 people.
These exist alongside other, different definitions: One sets the population limit for "rural" areas at 20,000. Another, at 25,000. Another, at 50,000. By Washington's strictest definition of rural -- any place with fewer than 2,500 residents -- there are 59 million rural Americans.
Still sounds higher than I expected...
By its most expansive definition -- any place with less than 50,000 residents -- there are about 190 million, more than three times more.
That's just silly, but it does give politicians some leeway for their speeches.
Kevin Sanchez wanted a grant for a refrigerated truck to deliver food to people in outlying areas of Yolo county (CA). But there was a problem: At the end of the workday, Sanchez planned to park the truck at the food bank's office in the county seat, Woodland -- population 56,000.

By this grant program's definitions, the truck couldn't be considered a rural project.

"I said, 'Yolo County's rural. Period.' " Sanchez said. They said "Well, gee. You know, [the town] is more than 20,000, so you really don't qualify. Would you consider relocating the truck? " If the truck were outside city limits, they explained, the definition wouldn't be a problem. Sanchez didn't apply for the money.

"You go park a truck outside the town, and it ain't gonna be there the next morning," he said.
Ah, California!
Even if Congress does knock six definitions off the list, in January a federal agency is planning to add a new one. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau will begin using its own definition of "rural." It's based on a complicated measurement of urbanization and commuting patterns.
Complicated is better, right? Why should it make a difference for consumer protection, by the way?
So then, the question of whether Lenoir is rural would have yet another answer: Yes. No. Yes. Yes. No3. Yes. No5.

And ..... no.
Posted by: Bobby || 06/09/2013 07:30 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How about a metric based upon population density adjusted for means of income (Trust funds, farming the Gov't, etc. is disqualifying.)...?

Posted by: Uncle Phester || 06/09/2013 9:23 Comments || Top||

#2  How about no subsidies, just tax cuts instead.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 06/09/2013 10:20 Comments || Top||

#3  My Definition: If you can









in your front yard at high noon and no one can see you, except for USGS - National Imagery and Mapping Agency, YOU are rural.

Posted by: Au Auric || 06/09/2013 15:35 Comments || Top||

#4  More than 40 years ago I had a revelation about the feds.

I was doing a project for my Sophmore seminar in Political Science and my research revealed that there were more than 75 different rat control programs funded at the federal level.

The light bulb that went on flashed the message to me that the government wastes a lot of money with this kind of crap.

Thus began the growth of my libertarian tendencies.

How many rat conotrol programs do you think have been added in the last 45 years?
Posted by: AlanC || 06/09/2013 15:47 Comments || Top||

#5  Go to Jerry Pournelle's site, and look up "bunny inspectors", AC.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 06/09/2013 16:14 Comments || Top||


Government
Leno monologue: Snoop is coming to town.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/09/2013 07:01 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Apparently not Verizon customers.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/09/2013 11:26 Comments || Top||


DoJ Fights Release of Secret Court Opinion Finding Unconstitutional Surveillance
[Mother Earth News]
A riddle wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma, viewed through a PRISM.
In the midst of revelations that the government has conducted extensive top-secret surveillance operations to collect domestic phone records and internet communications, the Justice Department was due to file a court motion Friday in its effort to keep secret an 86-page court opinion that determined that the government had violated the spirit of federal surveillance laws and engaged in unconstitutional spying.
You must trust us, we are only interested in...megadata.
This important case--all the more relevant in the wake of this week's disclosures--was triggered after Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), a member of the Senate intelligence committee, started crying foul in 2011 about US government snooping. As a member of the intelligence committee, he had learned about domestic surveillance activity affecting American citizens that he believed was improper. He and Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.), another intelligence committee member, raised only vague warnings about this data collection, because they could not reveal the details of the classified program that concerned them. But in July 2012, Wyden was able to get the Office of the Director of National Intelligence to declassify two statements that he wanted to issue publicly. They were:

* On at least one occasion the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court held that some collection carried out pursuant to the Section 702 minimization procedures used by the government was unreasonable under the Fourth Amendment.

* I believe that the government's implementation of Section 702 of FISA [the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act] has sometimes circumvented the spirit of the law, and on at least one occasion the FISA Court has reached this same conclusion.

For those who follow the secret and often complex world of high-tech government spying, this was an aha moment. The FISA court Wyden referred to oversees the surveillance programs run by the government, authorizing requests for various surveillance activities related to national security, and it does this behind a thick cloak of secrecy. Wyden's statements led to an obvious conclusion: He had seen a secret FISA court opinion that ruled that one surveillance program was unconstitutional and violated the spirit of the law. But, yet again, Wyden could not publicly identify this program.
Yet another memory lapse.

Posted by: Besoeker || 06/09/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  MotherJ misunderstands the situation.

For there to be a 4th amendment (unreasonable search) issue is a high barrier. It would require a court to find, for example, that a person had a reasonable expectation that the phone numbers they called would be secret. That's just not going to happen.

What is ikely is that the Obama Admin asked the FISA court for permission to do something and then did a bit more than they were permitted.

Even though it shows the Admin as sneaky, deceitful, mendacious, etc., that's not a constitutional issue. Its an administrative issue.
Posted by: lord garth || 06/09/2013 0:21 Comments || Top||

#2  I doubt Champ has the synaptic energy or the intelligence collection background to coordinate, process, and fuse all of these scandalous surveillance events. Someone or a group of someone's in some type of [possibly off-site] White House fusion cell has been quite busy sending out taskings, managing and harvesting collection, and formulating targeting strategies and policy responses. None of these sordid events happen by chance or accident, there is a formal mechanism and programme at work. I hope that this structure will soon be revealed.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/09/2013 3:49 Comments || Top||

#3  The long line of legal precedent is the requirement to have a warrant to search first class mail and to tap a person's phone line which is anchored on the 4th.

Some one is playing games in the concept that if you search everyone, say a DUI check point, you can do this, ignoring that it occurs on an open public road for which there is no expectation of privacy. By this appearent rationale, if the state breaks down everyone's doors and searches everyone's houses, then they say its OK.

As for the court, the 14th says we can not discriminate based upon race, and yet the court has operated with intent to in fact discriminate on race for over two generations. Just because some one in robes says what it says, doesn't mean that is what it truly means, particularly if even uncredentialed can grasp the basic intent and concepts.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 06/09/2013 8:37 Comments || Top||

#4  Some of the decisions SCOTUS has come up with are absolutely mind-boggling and defy logic.
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/09/2013 10:49 Comments || Top||

#5  I worry more about the FISA court. Decisions they make are essentially done in secret and doesn't seem to have much oversight. Who do they answer to? Congressional security oversight committees?
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/09/2013 10:52 Comments || Top||

#6  ..that would be Star Chamber.

The Star Chamber (Latin: Camera stellata) was an English court of law that sat at the royal Palace of Westminster until 1641. It was made up of Privy Councillors, as well as common-law judges and supplemented the activities of the common-law and equity courts in both civil and criminal matters. The court was set up to ensure the fair enforcement of laws against prominent people, those so powerful that ordinary courts could never convict them of their crimes. Court sessions were held in secret, with no indictments, and no witnesses. Evidence was presented in writing. Over time it evolved into a political weapon, a symbol of the misuse and abuse of power by the English monarchy and courts.

In modern usage, legal or administrative bodies with strict, arbitrary rulings and secretive proceedings are sometimes called, metaphorically or poetically, star chambers. This is a pejorative term and intended to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the proceedings. The inherent lack of objectivity of politically motivated charges has led to substantial reforms in English law in most jurisdictions since that time.


Back to where we started from.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 06/09/2013 11:36 Comments || Top||

#7  Mother Earth News?
:)
The times they are a changing.... all most heaven, South New Jersey, reminds of the brownfields far away..
Posted by: Shipman || 06/09/2013 15:35 Comments || Top||

#8  What is ikely is that the Obama Admin asked the FISA court for permission to do something and then did a bit more than they were permitted.

Like "no fly zone" over Libya, lord garth.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 06/09/2013 16:12 Comments || Top||



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