I posted this late yesterday. The hatred of this piece is not to be believed. The Powerline guys compared it to Goebbels, and with good reason. (Link here: http://powerlineblog.com/archives/009249.php)
It's time to party.
As the families of bomb-flattened Fallujah huddle in make-shift refugee camps, drinking from sewage-filled streams, Iraqi policy mastermind Paul Wolfowitz fastens the last stud into his starched collar.
As prisoners charged with no crimes, and given no recourse, languish in the hellhole of Guantanamo Bay, torture apologist Alberto Gonzales clicks his cufflinks into place.
As Dan Rather retires in disgrace over forged documents, former CIA Director George Tenet, proponent of forged documents about Iraq's nonexistent nuclear program, adjusts the Medal of Freedom around his neck.
As Pfc. Francis Obaji, oldest son of an immigrant Nigerian family, is zipped into a body bag for the sad journey home, Laura Bush zips up her Oscar de la Renta gown.
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Oh crap, it's Not a Damn Dime Day! I've gotta go shopping.
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I believe it was RC that revealed the relationship between outbursts of moonbattery and good news.
Oh, yeah! I hadn't connected the inauguration as being a trigger, but that makes sense.
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You don't have to make lists of names, if they keep putting it in print themselves. The assumption of such tripe is that the environment will not change and will continue to provide protection to their bile. One bomb, one shot by the wrong person, one stupid act, can change that environment overnight.
The British government underlined on Thursday that it will not "cut and run" from Iraq following that country's election this month, denying reports that London is pushing Washington to set a timetable for withdrawing coalition troops. The official spokesman of Prime Minister Tony Blair said the government was not urging President Bush to announce a timetable. "What is important is not a timetable which is irrespective of the facts in the ground. What is important is that we have a policy that is geared to allowing the Iraqis to take control of their own destiny," he said.
The spokesman said the coalition focus remained "Iraqi-ization" _ training the country's armed forces to take responsibility for security. "It is important we do not create a situation in which for the first time a democratically elected government is possible and then abandon it. We will not cut and run is what the prime minister said in April and that remains our position," the spokesman said.
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Foot, meet mouth. Tony, baby, you still have too many moonbats in your Govt. Your semi-tranzi thingy is causing you too many schizophrenic moments. Get a divorce and grow up, K?
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These lefty morons need a reality check: My dad served in WW II and was present when a single GI was told to march a dozen German prisoners at gunpoint several miles to a detention facility. Said GI returned a few minutes later announcing that he'd killed all of the Germans because he thought one might have had a grenade despite their having been previously searched.
Multiple Choice: What happened to this GI?
1. He was court-martialed and executed.
2. He was court-martialed and spent many years in prison.
3. He was court-martialed, spent a little time in prison, and was subsequently dishonorably discharged.
4. A thorough investigation determined that one of the Germans was indeed armed and the Army reluctantly cleared the GI.
5. Despite the fact that no German was armed the GI received an immediate field promotion, a commendation for bravery, and was later decorated.
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Yeah but shooting a load of enemy troops when you are marching them through hostile territory single handed is understandable. Forcing them into bizaar sexual positions when they're shakled and naked in a high security prison (and taking photos of it) is simply demented.
It should have been 3 or 4 depending on whether they were armed or not, perhaps with a promotion tacked onto 4 for his rapid reaction on seeing the grenade. (although it would be very hard to hide a large german WW2 stick grenade, fire the man who searched them).
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And, just to clarify, i think all the men who faught in WW2 were heros (and i'm sure your grandad greatly deserved his later decoration), but even in a war like that we should investigate the shooting of prisoners, we were fighting for justice afterall.
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An Independent article - have to confess I didn't bother reading a word.
Perhaps this scandal will help the likes of the Independent's readers to realise that even a fraction of the British military are capable of acting like twats when they're in a position of power over prisoners and aren't properly supervised. Not just 'Merkins. In fact, these things can and do happen in any Army. Howeverm, some punish the culprits, others decline to investigate, and still others hand out medals for it.
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WA - So you're fine with gunning down shackled prisoners if the folks doing the gunning are in hostile territory? Seems to me that every square inch of Iraq is hostile territory so by your logic it would obviously have been OK to just kill offending prisoners at Abu Ghraib but humiliating them is somehow out of bounds? Sorry, I don't follow your logic at all.
LONDON: Britain said on Wednesday it planned to deport some foreign terror suspects to their home countries after senior judges ruled the government's decision to detain them without trial was unlawful. Home Secretary (interior minister) Charles Clarke told the Times newspaper Britain was seeking deals with several North African countries to allow suspects to be deported without risk of being tortured or sentenced to death in their home nations. "I think we should be prosecuting much more energetically our ability to deport the individuals concerned to the countries from which they come, in all these particularly cases from North Africa. We are actively pursuing that," said Clarke. Britain's Law Lords ruled last month against the indefinite detention of several men under legislation introduced after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on the United States.
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ooohh ffs , just deport the lot , they aint contributed anything since they arrived , and would continue to do so .. HURRY UP !
January 20, 2005: After five years of fighting, the government believes that it has reduced the number of rebel leaders in Chechnya from 200 to 10. At the same time, the number of foreign Islamic radicals operating in Chechnya has been reduced from over 2,500 to about sixty. There were about 200 of these foreign fighters in operation last Summer, but greater use of Spetsnaz commandoes, and Chechen police, caused more of the rebel camps to be found and destroyed. The foreign Islamic radicals were the trigger for the Russian 1999 invasion in the first place. The Islamic radicals had been moving across the border into other parts of Russia and beginning their "Islamic conquest" of the Caucasus. This was more than Russia was willing to tolerate from an autonomous Chechnya.
Many of the Islamic radicals thought the Caucasus would be "another Afghanistan." But these radicals, most of the them Arabs, failed to remember that nearly all the fighting in Afghanistan was by Afghans. Arabs got very little combat experience in Afghanistan. Moreover, the Russians won nearly all the battles. During the 1980s war, some two million Afghans were killed, and 15,000 Russians. The Russians finally left because they decided fighting in Afghanistan simply wasn't worth it. This is not quite the same as a military defeat. In the Caucasus, the Russians are fighting on their own turf. They are not leaving, and they have beaten Chechen rebels many times in the past. They are doing it again. Most of the foreign fighters still operating in Chechnya are Turks. The Arabs have nearly all been killed, or got discouraged and went home.
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"The list of the terrorist leaders, who acted on the territory of Russia, shrank from 200 to 10 people," head of the FSB PR department Colonel Sergei Ignatchenko said. It was established that terrorist leader Khattab eliminated in Chechnya had over $40 mln on his accounts. "It proves that this terrorist earned this money through bloody terror in Russia," Col. Ignatchenko said. According to him, these people (Arab terrorists) under the veil of Islam in reality established a bloody business.
Col. Ignatchenko also said that a number of people connected with the terrorist activities were detained as well. "These are the people who were trained abroad and came to Russia to conduct acts of terror," Col. Ignatchenko noted. According to him, the FSB announced the detainees following the necessary investigative measures. Col. Ignatchenko reminded that the law enforcement bodies encountered international terrorism in Soviet times. Back then emissaries of the Muslim Brothers organization appeared from time to time in the USSR. "In the course of the 1990s the FSB tracked the representatives of the extremist organizations in the Volga region and in the North Caucasus, where they were spreading their views among the locals and organizing groups. Currently al-Quaeda stands behind the most extremist Arabic organizations," Col. Ignatchenko said. "The threat of terrorism still exists in Russia, however the Russian FSB and Interior Ministry apply all the necessary efforts in order to prevent terrorist attacks. At the same time we count on the vigilance of citizens," Col. Ignatchenko said. He also added that the FSB has no information concerning the arrest of Vakha Arsanov - the former vice president of Ichkeria. "Yesterday we spoke with the FSB representatives in Chechnya and they didn't confirm the information concerning the arrest of Arsanov," Col. Ignatchenko added.
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According to Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB), Chechen militant leader Shamil Basaev is hiding abroad, FSB public relations chief Sergei Ignatchenko said. "The secret services are aware that Basaev very often goes abroad and periodically comes to Chechnya", he said. Found in the territory of the North Caucasian region, Arab mercenaries carefully guard him and sometimes put him into hideouts abroad, he said. It is known that Basaev leads a secret way of life, Ignatchenko told RIA Novosti. "He has gunned down his entourage twice to preserve secrecy," Ignatchenko said. Sources say that Basaev has been getting medical treatment abroad for one year, showed up in North Caucasian republics, Ingushetia and Kabardino-Balkaria but not Chechnya. "Most of the time he is abroad, where he has taken all his close relatives," Ignatchenko said. Basaev has bank accounts abroad, where sums for committing terrorist acts are transferred. "Terrorist activities in Chechnya have long become a profitable business for Basaev," Ignatchenko stressed.
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A North Korean national has gained entry to the American embassy in Vientiane and a second failed and was arrested by Lao police, US-funded Radio Free Asia said Wednesday. "Two male adults tried to climb over the fence of the US embassy," an RFA journalist based in Bangkok told AFP, adding that the incident took place Tuesday morning. "One managed to get in and the other one was arrested by Lao police and taken to (a) police station," he added, quoting a Lao police officer speaking on condition of anonymity. Lao foreign ministry spokesman Yong Chanthalangsy said he could not confirm the report. An official at the US embassy in Vientiane refused to comment directly on the report, which if true could lead to the first successful attempt by a North Korean to seek political asylum in communist Laos. "The United States have always been concerned by the suffering of the North Korean people including those who have fled to other countries," said the unnamed official. Two North Koreans entered Sweden's embassy in Hanoi last December just day after four had gained entry to the French mission in the same city.
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TETOUAN-Descendants of the Moors expelled from Spain 500 years ago failed to receive an apology from King Juan Carlos as he toured Morocco. Residents of Tetouan, many of whose ancestors were driven from the Iberian peninsula by King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella, said an opportunity had been lost to heal an historic wound, which has become all the more sensitive in recent years, the British Daily Telegraph reported. Osama bin Laden has often talked of the tragedy of the loss of al-Andalus, the Moorish region of Spain. The terrorists who attacked Madrid last year, killing 192 people and wounding 1,900, spoke of Spain with the same sense of historic vengeance. Three million Muslims were expelled in 1501.
1501. Lemme see, here. Divide by 9, carry the 4... Square root of 11... Oh, yeah. That's 504 years agao, give or take a few months. GET OVER IT!
The king, who was on his first state visit to Morocco since 1979, cancelled his visit to Tetouan at the last minute. The official reason was lack of time but unofficially it appeared that sensitivities had arisen because Tetouan was the old Spanish colonial capital. King Juan Carlos said in a speech earlier this week that the legacy of an Arab and Andalusian heritage was a key to "the positive image'' in Spain of "Arabic culture and Islam''. The king has apologised for the expulsion of Jews from Spain in 1492, and the descendants of the expelled Moors say he owes Muslims the same respect. An eminent historian, Mohammed Ibn Azzuz Hakim, who has led the campaign, said: "We want moral reparations for the wounds we suffered. Mentally we feel linked to the same customs and history. Spanish traditions are ours too. I have traced more than 7,000 surnames in this town which derive from Spanish names."
How's your flamenco dancing, Bub?
The campaign is backed by the biographer of Lorca, Ian Gibson, and the popular historian Amin Maalouf. "Five centuries ago they expelled Spanish Jews and Spanish Muslims.
And now both are back. The one group's well-behaved, the other's not...
The petition to the Spanish king will hopefully change this historic injustice. They were betrayed," said Gibson. Azzuz believes that the arrival of a socialist government in Spain has increased the chances of receiving an apology. Relations between Spain and Morocco took a serious downturn under the Right-wing government of Jose Maria Aznar.
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An apology from King Juan Carlos for something that he didn't do that happened over 500 years ago. Get a life.
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500 years ago? Shit, with these people, that's an open wound.
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Did the Moops (whoops, I mean Moors) ever apologize to the Spanish for invading their country hundreds of years prior to being expelled by the Spanish? What's next, the Angles, Saxons and Jutes apologizing to the Britons and the few remaining Picts (as well as any remaining Roman invaders) for invading England? The Norsemen apologizing to the Anglo-Saxons for their hundreds of years of raids on England? The Normans apologizing to the Saxons for doing the same years later? Give me a break.
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Probably not sorry. If the Moors had not been expelled, Spain would be in the same shape as the rest of the Arab world.
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Basically, an apology would be an endorsement of the aggression and invasion of Christian Spain by muslims. It would be an acknowledgment of a muslim right to Spain. They were first conquerors and occupiers and then they were kicked out after losing in a fair fight. No apology neccesary.
The Jews are a wholly different case. They did not invade and occupy a Christian land. They lived in peace as a minority for likely every bit as long as Christians did. It was therefore unfair and wrong to expell them. It was right to offer them an apology.
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The Jutes apologized, I believe. Remember the great line "We're so sorry, Uncle Albert".
Relations have been sour for decades. Spain has had to spank the Moroccans every few years. Last was in 2002. Take a look at a good map and you will find two Spanish enclaves on the Moroccan coast.
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I think the Copts should demand that Mohammedans apologize for invading then-Christian Egypt in the 7th century, an illegal occupation that continues to this day.
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Yeah AC, and while we at it we should also demand the return of Constantinople and the return of St Sophia to the Christian church.
Where's the outrage about that, I wonder? If Christians stole the finest mosque ever built and made it a church and then a museum rather than return it and then neglected it to the point of dereliction of duty and criminal neglect of one of the worlds archtectural treasures, then we would never hear the end of it.
But if its the other way around? who cares? But we have to apologize for kicking out the occupiers of Christian Spain??????
HA! May we never be so stupid. Though I am all for apologizing if the all the muslims go back to SA. There's plenty of empty space there I hear.
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"I think the Copts should demand that Mohammedans apologize for invading then-Christian Egypt in the 7th century, an illegal occupation that continues to this day."
Actually, just as a nitpick, the Copts had then *welcomed* the Muslim invasion of Egypt, because the Muslims were less brutal rulers than the Byzantines.
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I'm still waiting for the moslems to apologize to the entire "moslem" world for invading them and "converting" them by the sword - into shitholes.
You'll notice I am not holding my breath.
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Amen Aris. Look at the Copts now. Look at what happened to the Byzantine empire. Most of what occured was due to hubris. They were so sure that they couldn't lose to the muslims. They were so sure that the difference between the faiths was obvious and once exposed to Christianity and to civilization, the muslims would realize their error. So they would battle the muslims to a standstill and then believing that they had made peace with them, accomodated them, gave them territory, allied with them, worked with them, let them live and study in the capitol city and in the end none of it was worth a bucket of spit. The muslims didn't want co existence, they wanted everything the Byzantines had for themselves and they played along alternating with slowly bleeding the empire dry through episodic military campaigns of conquest until there was nothing left.
No the Byzantines were not very nice to the Copts because they were considered heretics, but we owe them an incalculable debt for the transmission of our ancient Greco-Roman hertitage and for successfully combining that heritage with Christianity.
They were a brilliant people in spite of their faults. Everyone should study what happened to them especially our kids in school.
1. The Moslems use anything in their attempts to compensate (get "apologies") for the problems caused by the humiliation stemming from their own (present day) sexual abuse issues.
2. peggy (#10, #18 & #22): superb comments.
3. Aris is simply a social deconstructionist who likes to bitch about his askewed perceptions/experiences of pseudochristianity.
4. "The muslims didn't want co existence, they wanted everything the Byzantines had for themselves . . ." Same holds true today. Really, they just want our stuff. The reason for their wars then. The reason for their "terror" war now.
5. As usual Barbara Skolaut has it right! LOL! (#21)
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The Muslims welcomed the American liberation of Iraq.
Well, some did.
That's the messy little thing about history. Ya just gotta check that record out.
"Filthy Jew!" schoolchildren howl at a classmate. "Jews only want money and power," they tell their teachers. "Death to the Jews" graffiti appear on school walls outside Paris and other French cities. These are not scenes from the wartime Nazi occupation or a fictional France where the far-right has taken control. Outright anti-Semitism like this is a fact of life these days in the poor suburbs where much of France's Muslim minority lives.
After a slow response when this "new anti-Semitism" flared four years ago, France has made fighting prejudice against Jews into a national priority. Holocaust education in state schools now starts with pupils as young as nine years old. But even the best plans for teaching about the Nazi massacre of Jews can fall short when confronted with an Islamic identity spreading among a minority of France's five million Muslims. "It works with those who are ready to listen," said Iannis Roder, a history teacher in the tough northern suburbs of Paris. "But it doesn't work with those who won't listen. They have their minds made up."
Roder is one of several history teachers who sounded an alarm in 2002 about a wave of anti-Semitism among Muslim pupils, much of it a reaction to the uprising by Palestinians against Israeli control of their lands. Their outspoken book "The Lost Territories of the Republic" opened France's eyes to classrooms where some Muslim pupils openly denounced Jews, praised Hitler and refused to listen to any non-Muslim teacher talking about the history of Islam. Such tension has prompted Jewish pupils in these areas to switch to private Jewish or even Catholic schools. "Muslim pupils react less now to what happens in the Middle East," Roder said. "But the situation hasn't really changed. As soon as you talk about Jews in some historical event, there are (anti-Semitic) comments."
Only A Minority Presents Problems
Both Roder and Claude Singer, head of Holocaust education projects at the Jewish Contemporary Documentation Centre (CDJC), underlined that most schools had no problem teaching about the Holocaust and most pupils learned the lesson being put across. "A national survey of history and geography teachers showed that only 15 percent of them had problems teaching about the Shoah," Singer said, using the Hebrew word widely used in French for the Nazi massacre of six million Jews. "The problem concerns not only the Shoah but anything to do with religion," he said. "Some Muslim pupils don't accept being taught about Christian religious life, which is very important to understand the Middle Ages. The Algerian War is difficult, too, as is slavery." The French slave trade is taught in French overseas territories but not in mainland France, which prompts some black pupils here to ask why they study the Holocaust but not slavery. "In general, I think that Shoah education is going well. It's certainly much better than before," Roder said.
France's centralised state education system began teaching about the Holocaust in junior and senior high schools in 1983. Three years ago, faced with the wave of "new anti-Semitism", it added special classes for pupils as young as 9 or 10 years old. Last September, all 5,500 lycees (high schools) around the country received DVDs with excerpts of the classic Holocaust film "Shoah" and related texts to give pupils a hard-hitting lesson in where hateful prejudice can lead. Centres like the CDJC also offer subsidised day trips to Auschwitz with a French survivor of the death camps. Auschwitz is located near Krakow in southern Poland, just over two hours' flight from Paris, and the trip costs only 50 euros ($65.20). "We'll bring several thousand pupils there in 2005," said Singer, who also guides visits to the Shoah Memorial at the CDJC's headquarters near the old Jewish quarter of Paris.
Foreign Jews Praise France
After being heavily criticised for its initial slow reaction to rising anti-Semitism, France has cracked down on anti-Semitic violence and multiplied efforts to teach tolerance in schools. The American Jewish Congress (AJC) lauded France in September for its toughened stand on anti-Semitic crimes and its plan to ban the virulently anti-Jewish satellite television Al-Manar, run by Lebanon's Hizbollah guerrillas. After meeting Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin and Justice Minister Dominique Perben, AJC Executive Director David Harris said they were "people who understood the magnitude of the problem and were determined to do something about it."
Harris said he understood the difficulty teachers had with Muslim pupils: "Focusing simply on Holocaust education does not necessarily resonate with children from immigrant communities who say they have no historical or cultural connection with it." A month earlier, Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom said in Paris that France was doing all it could to fight anti-Jewish prejudice -- a calming statement coming only weeks after Prime Minister Ariel Sharon had urged French Jews to move to Israel to flee what he called "the wildest anti-Semitism."
Link To Cambodian And Rwandan Genocides
While some progress has been made, both Roder and Singer said teachers had to work hard to counter anti-Semitic views that pupils pick up in their disadvantaged neighbourhoods. "I wouldn't say any Islamic groups are behind this," Roder said. "I hear things like, 'Don't buy Coca Cola, it's Jewish'. They hear that sort of thing at the mosque or in their neighbourhoods and they repeat it now and then."
"I'm convinced it's not just a problem of Jews and Arabs," Singer said. "There is a wider problem, one of identity. The (Muslim) pupils feel under attack for their identity so they reject out of hand anything that could put them down." One way to get around this could be to introduce pupils to survivors of other mass killings, for example in Cambodia or Rwanda, Singer said. He has already arranged one such meeting for teachers to help them understand the problem of genocide. "The Shoah cannot be allowed to hide all the other horrors concerning other groups," he said. "That's not our goal here." This has to be done carefully, Singer said, because inviting witnesses to other genocides to speak with Jewish survivors runs the risk of diluting the unique nature of the Holocaust. "We must not make comparisons," he said firmly.
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Such tension has prompted Jewish pupils in these areas to switch to private Jewish or even Catholic schools. heh...the crushing antisemitism of the catholic church.
It's all the same mindset, a socially acceptable group of "others" that it's ok to sneer at and to blame for your ills. In American society - the only groups that it is PC to be bigoted against are Christians and very fat people. If you want to blanketly slur all Christians are narrow minded - that's not bigotry, that's a fact. Two people are standing in front of you, one is grossely obese mother on her way to the PTA, the other is a skinny, drug addict. It's ok to slur the mom.
One way to get around this could be to introduce pupils to survivors of other mass killings, for example in Cambodia or Rwanda, Singer said. He has already arranged one such meeting for teachers to help them understand the problem of genocide.
"The Shoah cannot be allowed to hide all the other horrors concerning other groups," he said. "Thatâs not our goal here."
This has to be done carefully, Singer said, because inviting witnesses to other genocides to speak with Jewish survivors runs the risk of diluting the unique nature of the Holocaust.
"We must not make comparisons," he said firmly
Christian, Muslim, Communist and pagan massacres need not apply.
And why not? By saying this I submit that this man fails to understand the lesson of the Holocaust. It's not just about hating Jews - but about hating. The lesson is that we must see peoples as individuals and we must resist demagogues who whip up divisions among using hate as a tool. It doesn't matter if it's about religion, race, sexuality, or abortion. If you confine the lesson only to your very own group - then you aren't grasping the nature of the problem - stereotyping and blaming anonymous "others" for what's wrong in your world - even if it's just the fat lady in front of you.
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I have to question the axiom of the need to teach the Holocaust, as a singular subject, to anyone, even Jewish children. Its rationale is flawed, and it often creates more problems than it solves. First of these is "why teach it?" Is it (a) To convey a sense of inherited guilt to the non-Jewish children?; (b) To imply that Jews are special among the peoples who experience hatred and persecution?; (c) To identify their persecutors *in this case* as being special?; or (d) As a general introduction and ethical opposition lesson to genocide? Second, why is it a *good* thing for Jews to remember this massacre? What *good* has it done other peoples to spend part of their lives fretting over past injustices? For example, the Armenians against the Turks; or, just today, the Moors agonizing over the lack of a Spanish apology from 500 years ago? With the death of the last Holocaust survivor, and the last real Nazi, shouldn't it just become another history lesson, another tragedy in history like so many others? More importantly, shouldn't teachers instead work to prevent such things from happening in the future? For example, Moslems have been slaughtered and enslaved by other Moslems; isn't it more to the point that their teacher teach that *nobody* should slaughter or enslave *anyone* else?
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Why do the Jews remember? Well, in my case, it was my mother and her family who were involved. My father's family was wiped out, so there isn't much to talk about there. But it isn't about imposing guilt on those who were born after -- more about being aware of the warning signs, and what can really happen. Only a few years after WWII ended, the Jews of the Middle East were expelled en masse. They don't complain about it though, because those that made it to Israel at least see the alternative possibility in the numbers etched on the skin of their neighbors' forearms.
Should other holocausts be taught? Yes, of course. And their causes, as an object lesson (dehumanizing hatred (Jews, Gypsies, Croats), desire to remove the entire class containing political opponents to the gov't in power,(Kulaks in Soviet Russia, bourgeoisie in Viet Nam)).
But the extermination of the Jews was the only time such a thing was undertaken by practically the entirety of the nation, and executed with factory-like precision. This wasn't one people attacking their neighbors with machetes and machine guns. The concentration camps were designed by the factory efficiency experts of Ford and IBM, among others, and with the passive acceptance of much of the world. Remember, one reason so so many died is that they had nowhere to escape to; Hitler's original plan was to strip the Jews of their wealth, then expel them to pollute (as he saw it) the territories of his enemies such as Britain and America. It was only when the other countries refused to accept the mass of German Jews that Hitler decided that extermination was his only option to achieve the necessarily Judenfrei nation he desired. He didn't even bother to try that with the Gypsies, as nobody wanted them then, as now (and so 90% of European Gypsies were murdered, and much higher percentage than that of the European Jews).
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But it isn't about imposing guilt on those who were born after -- more about being aware of the warning signs...
Exactly-many of which are springing up unchallenged today.
So much hatred has been extended towards the Jewish people-for centuries and on many different continents. This is a fact that many Muslims (and Christians as well) ignore in their arguments about the injustices done to Palestinians. Hatred towards Jews is a singular hatred that surpasses in time and scope the hatred shown towards Christians and Muslims and most other religious groups in the world.
I don't think dragging the US into the anti-Semitic camp will help much, though, TW, because so many from the "US" died making sure Hitler didn't succeed. The "US military industrial complex as a puppet of anti-Semitism" argument is one that unncessarily alienates those who fight for justice for Israel and the Jewish people today.
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I will step out onto the ice here, mindful of my embarrassing comments from yesterday. (I'll leave drunk blogging to Stephen Green in the future).
I agree with both well stated comments above. But I'm going to extend an argument that I make consistently on all subjects. There is no such thing as negative publicity.
The danger of specifically focusing on the Jewish Holocaust, and not on the unjust blame and hatred that caused it, is that it reinforces the very ideas that Hitler worked so hard to spread - Jews are different, Jews are bad, elders of zion blah, blah, blah.
Reinforcing it puts those ideas into the heads of a whole new generation that could have been blissfully unaware of them.
I think it far more beneficial - rather than to keep reinforcing the ideas that Jews are hated by many - - to keep it in context - that it's not about Jews - but about the use by tyrants and demagogues to rise to power using the demonization of "others, not me" to blame.
I understand it's not that simple - but my point is valid and it's one I make consistently. There is no such thing as negative publicity - and if you publicize that people hate Jews - you are spreading the very ideas that you wish to counter.
I think that the article shows some attitudes that are not very flattering to Jews, quite frankly. Mr. Singer's worry about "diluting" the significance of the WWII Holocaust by referring to other genocidal events is an obnoxious self-centered, self-delusional sentiment. To suggest that Jews have only been victims as well as the only victims in modern history is sad.
Even if one considers the WWII Holocaust by itself, Hitler systematically murdered 3 million Christians, primarily Catholics, in addition to 6 million Jews. Three million is not an insignificant number, and all we read in this article is about Hitler's focused hatred for the Jews. Fyi, the 3 million executed Christians vastly outnumbered the combined number of Gypsies (400,000), homosexuals and handicapped( 10,000 -15,000)killed.
In the early years, most prisoners at Auschwitz were Poles, not Jews. As historian Martin Gilbert pointed out, of the first 611 people who died at Auschwitz, 591 were Poles and 20 were Jews. In the vast body of Holocaust literature little sympathy is ever extended to those 591 victims, and the subsequent 2,999,409 Poles who followed them to their graves. Polish Nobel Prize-winner Czeslaw Milosz expressed his concern about the forgotten victims, lamenting, âwhen the meaning of the word Holocaust undergoes gradual modifications, so that the word begins to belong to the history of the Jews exclusively, as if among the victims there were not also millions of Poles, Russians, Ukrainians, and prisoners of other nationalities.â Echoing the sentiment, William Styron warned, âTo ignore the existence of these victims -- even if it is certain that Jews suffered more than the others -- is to minimize the Nazi horror. It is to underestimate dangerously its totalitarian dimension.â
Furthermore,has Mr. Singer ever considered the contribution of Russian communist Jews to the planning and execution of 2 digit millions of Christians prior to WWII as the Bolsheviks and Stalinists consolidated their power in Russia, Poland, and the Ukraine?
Holocausts are evil blots on human history and we should recognize evil whenever it appeared and not exercise selective memories about such atrocities. To focus only one holocaust diminishes the memory of other human beings who have lost their lives in the course of "purges." Also, not to recognize that evil exists in every sector of humanity is to be intellectually dishonest.
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I made my initial comment with a strange purpose: not to diminish the Holocaust, but to advance what should be its lesson. To explain, let me go further back in history, to Napoleon Bonaparte. For almost a hundred years, Bonaparte was villified throughout Europe for his conquests. Indeed, many of his methods were vile, and after he was beaten there was an insistence that he be remembered and hated, even by the French, themselves. He is the second most biographed figure in human history after Jesus. Entire libraries exist with only books devoted to his life and wars. But the incredible destruction he brought to a continent has been popularly forgotten--in France he is now seen as a hero, with school teachers becoming teary-eyed when telling their students of "Le Emperor". Even though the truth is still there, in intense detail, it is ignored. Someday, I predict the same shall happen to Hitler, and the Germans will rationalize away everything they can and proclaim him "The Last Kaiser". So where does this leave the Holocaust? As a lesson to monsters like Milosevic, as to *how* to conduct "ethnic cleansing", without making the same mistakes the Nazis made? Instead, the opportunity of the Holocaust must be the literalization of the expression "Never Again!"--the internationalization of "Never Again!", for any genocide, or "ethnic cleansing". Since WWII, there have been several more "holocausts", tyrants still murdering millions because they think they can get away with it. And for a time, they are right. Only the US seems to be willing to bust up such parties, and then only in some countries. But the rest of the world is still content to "deplore", and do nothing more. To change this must become the sole goal of remembering the Holocaust. Not self pity, nor anger at the now-extinct Nazis, but outrage at the neutrality, the indifference or tacit support, given to tyrants who do such things. Only when a military division is immediately deployed to stop a genocide *at its onset*, will rememberance of the Holocaust bear great meaning.
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Anon, I don't think any holocaust should get short changed in history texts nor should facts be omitted or evil people white washed for PC reasons. As I explained in post #9, I am offended by the attitude of some Jews, per the article, who seek to promote their ordeal in WW II as the worst holocaust or the only holocaust in the 20th century. That is a false presumption.
The best defense against evil "purges" is for everyone to recognize that the all people have the capacity to do evil. No group is perfect or always the only victim. Jews as well as Christians as well as Muslims all have blood on their hands with regards to purges in recent history if we look at holocausts prior to WWII, during WWII, and after WWII.
The definition of "holocaust" is an act of great destruction and loss of life. Mr. Singer would like people to believe that holocaust only applies to the murder of 6 million Jews by the Nazis.
The French foreign minister has called for "a new trans-Atlantic relationship" between the United States and its European allies. Too many challenges face the world for the two not to work together in addressing them, Michel Barnier told CNN, but said France will not bow to the will of the United States. "We are allies. Alliance is not submission."
"We have to work together in the broader sense, and probably in what I call a new trans-Atlantic relationship, and get in the habit to talk more to each other -- even when we don't agree, because that happens -- to talk more about politics," he said Wednesday. Relations between France and the United States took a blow after the two disagreed over the war in Iraq. The "French-bashing" that followed the disagreement may have hurt U.S.-French ties, Barnier said. "It's not fair to ridicule France. France and the U.S. are friends and allies in the world, in history, since the beginning. Once again, alliance is not submission and we can disagree on certain subjects. We didn't agree on Iraq. Frankly ... I say and repeat that President (Jacques) Chirac's state of mind and my own is to look ahead and not in the rear-view mirror."
Asked whether the French are willing to compromise, Barnier said, "The French can change and the Americans can change. A discussion should be something frank, direct, lucid, where each one can make an effort. ... I heard my colleague Condoleezza Rice say to the Senate herself that the American administration will use more multilateral dialogue in diplomacy rather than unilateral talk." But, he said, France will not make a "one-way compromise."
"The U.S. can't be alone to face the challenge of terrorism, poverty, development, instability in the world -- we need to be together," Barnier said. "And why are we allies? We're allies to face that together. I think American people are lucid, realistic and pragmatic. We have to see that the alliance between Europeans and Americans is vital, and it should serve peace, freedom and democracy."
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"And why are we allies?
Exactly. You have nothing to bring to the table Jacques, so off you go. Happy Dhimmitude to you.
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This is more transparent double-speak; actions define French motives, not words.
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"The U.S. canât be alone to face the challenge of terrorism, poverty, development, instability in the world -- we need to be together," Barnier said.
Maybe we can be alone, if we got all krazy nuclear on the problem. Or maybe not, if we play nice like we are doing now. Either way, we don't need France, especially the usual backtabbing version of France, and that's something that should be brutally and publicly pointed out.
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You have nothing to bring to the table Jacques, so off you go.
Thats true. Apart from money of course:
France exports $28 billion worth of goods and imports $19 billion worth of American products. The U.S. bilateral trade deficit has increased steadily since 1992, reaching a peak of $10.4 billion in 2001 before decreasing last year.
Between 1992-2002, France's annual rank as a supplier fluctuated between 8 th and 11 th place, its rank as a client between 7 th and 10 th place.
Aeronautics accounts for the largest portion of our bilateral trade. Contrary to a common misperception, agrifoods (essentially beverages) made up only 8 percent of French sales to the United States in 2002. Wine represents 3 percent of total sales.
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"Lucid," eh? How bout some lucidity, aka transparency, about your government's dealings with Saddam in signing the TotalFinaElf sweetheart deal that guaranteed exclusive access for France to ~30% of Iraq's oil reserves on excessively generous terms?
Between the US and proud nations committed to advancing democracy there can be alliances. With whoring opportunists there can be only temporary overlapping of interests.
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France doesn't see that antipathy for France is not embodied in George Bush-it is growing among rank and file Americans.
This is the same formula they've been using since November:
Listen to us, we don't have to listen to you. Be respectful to us, we will be provocative to you. Unilateral action is wrong-America needs the world's help; then follow our "buts"-but no allegiance, but no transparency and legality, but no allied militarily policy. Then the everready pickpocketing hand in the sleeve of a socialist coming for America to put the world economy right. In return, France will donate its astounding diplomatic finesse "whether you like it or not". Les politiciens de la France: les rois d'ineptitude, ingratitude et pomposite.
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WA - Were money the only consideration, and your source a tad more neutral (almost anyone else would be preferable, heh), you would have a rock solid argument.
But there is much more to consider than money, regards France and how Americans should view our relationship. I, for one, already forgo buying anything that I know is a product of any company with French ownership. I have done this for some time now - since the French perfidy in the UN and their attempts to sabotage NATO vis-a-vis Turkey's request for Patriot missiles (pre-war and pre-Turkish perfidy in Gul-fool's deal with France for EU membership support). I can add much more to it since the Iraq War began.
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I'm fairly neutral on the subject of Franco-US realations but, as a moderate and a capitalist, it seems foolish to alienate a major trading partner. Both nations are broadly batting for the same (western, democratic, capitalist) side after all.
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Both nations are broadly batting for the same (western, democratic, capitalist) side after all.
I suspect the French would be deeply insulted by your applying the word "capitalist" to them. "Western" and "democratic" would probably tick some of them off, too.
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Thats true. Apart from money of course:
Jeez, a billion here, a billion there, pretty soon you'll be talking about some serious money.
I for one would write them off out of spite. But I'm a bastard that way.
We are much more a major partner to them, than they to us. Perhaps they need to be reminded of their place.
Hows that for pissed Merkin arrogance?
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"The U.S. canât be alone to face the challenge of terrorism, poverty, development, instability in the world -- we need to be together,"
I'll wager that French colonialism contributed to part of the terrorism, poverty, and instability in the world. Indochina, Algeria, Haiti, Syria, Lebannon, Cote d'Ivoire, Chad, Congo... Maybe THEY should start fixing their mess instead of just talking about it.
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WA - When they finally get a government up and running for 100 years without slipping into tyranny, maybe I'll listen to them. But I doubt they'll be able to manage it.
France -- on it's Fifth Republic
America -- silly cowboys still on their first
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France exports $28 billion worth of goods and imports $19 billion worth of American products
There are always other suppliers -- if not currently in production, then can be up and running and approved within a year (Mr. Wife has been involved in this kind of work, so I know whereof I speak). The French need us twice as much as we need them by the figures given... to whom else would they sell that much product? For that matter, they've already seen how that works with their wine industry. When the Americans spontaneously boycotted French products, then American, Australian, Spanish, Italian, Chilean and other wines of good quality quickly filled the gap -- and the French market will never recover those customers. It can work with eg chemical suppliers in the same way.
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Ok Rantburgers, raise your hands. How many of you closely examine labels of foodstuffs and other products to make sure they aren't of French origin, hence ineligible for purchase?
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Good to know Frank, I bought it once, but was told afterward it wasn't very good, despite the clever label. So now I have two reasons not to trade it for the money Mr. Wife works so hard to earn.
I do check labels to some extent -- eg I traded in my L'Oreal haircolour for Clairol. Which turns out to do a better job on my hair anyway. And I minimize my purchases of French wine, although Mr. Wife has a few faves he just won't give up. I've reduced purchases of the German things we fell in love with when we lived over there, too. And our next car will be a Subaru.
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my only French wine fav was "Mouton Cadet" bordeaux - which translates as "young sheep" - made me uncomfortable as it was...
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The thing that always gets me is how the French president or foreign minister, or govt official always lectures the US about our relationship, even though we never ask for a lecture.
Many Kiwis have little love for the French after the French Secret Service commandos sunk the Rainbow Warrior in Auckland Harbor on July 10, 1985, resulting in one person drowning. The Frenchies made an $8.6 million restitution a while after the whole bruhaha died down. The Kiwis were pissed about the French attitudes of above ground or ocean located nuclear tests in French Polynesia. I believe the French dump their nuclear waste in some kind of containers there still. They certainly don't dump it in Frawnce.
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I skip the French colognes and designer stuff, and yeah, I look at the labels when I get some new foods. Very rarely is there no other alternative....
It was a dark and stormy night In cold, snowy Washington, about a hundred protesters gathered outside the "Black Tie and Boots" inaugural ball on Wednesday night, comparing President George W. Bush to Adolf Hitler because Bush is "exterminating the Muslim race."
Practitioners of Islam are, of course, genetically distinct from the rest of us. There's some doubt we could even interbreed. Islamic spermatozoa have infinitesimal little turbans, and the Islamic ovum is veiled, to prevent the spermatozoan becoming too excited. Among the lesser races, the unsuccessful sperm die natural deaths, but the successful Islamic sperm gets to strangle the unsuccessful with microscopic bow string. Those that don't explode, anyway.
"It is no different in that Hitler killed so many Jews, and George Bush, you know, is exterminating the Muslim race and others," said a man who identified himself only as Don from Florida.
That'd be Don Dummschitz, from Broward County, is my guess...
Don held up a sign with the words "Vote Republican" written over a Nazi swastika. "It's just a form of fascism -- the Patriot Act and everything -- they stole the vote. Diebold (the electronic voting machine company) and their money stole the electoral vote of the people," Don told Cybercast News Service.
"I saw 'em do it! I wuz hidin' out, an' saw the whole thing! I got it on my digital camera, but they turned the Zionist Death Ray on it an' all the pitchers fell off!"
The group of counter-inaugural lunatics protesters gathered near the entrance of the Marriott Wardman Park Hotel, where the inaugural ball hosted by the Texas State Society was taking place. The groups sponsoring the protest included Billionaires for Bush, Code Pink (a women's peace group) and a group calling itself the Ronald Reagan Home for the Criminally Insane. Party-goers arriving for the ball were greeted with megaphone-amplified jeers decrying them as "pigs," chants of "Bush Lied, Soldiers Died" and "Stop the Celebration, End the Occupation" and signs asking, "Are You a Corporate Whore?"
Hmmm... Their candidate definitely lost. He may not have even been able to gnaw through the straps on election day...
Another protester -- Steve from Vermont -- was among a dozen activists carrying signs linking the GOP to Nazis.
Ah, good old Steve Dummschitz, from Burlington...
Steve told Cybercast News Service that the Bush family's ties to the Nazis go back a long way.
"Back before there wuz even Nazis, by Gum! Before there wuz even Bushes!"
"George Bush's grandfather - he did business with the Nazis, they were partners with him (Hitler), and that is all Bush is. He slaughtered people in Iraq. If that isn't fascism, what is?" Steve asked.
See my previous expositions on the subject, Mr. Dummschitz. Corporate state, roving bands of fascisti, party binding static social classes into a greater whole, Fearless Leader, that sort of thing. And take something for that hysteria...
According to Steve, people attending this week's inaugural balls in Washington "are basically a bunch of rich, filthy, selfish people who are out of touch with the real world. They don't care about other human beings on this planet, and they are destroying the planet."
"Doctor Strangelove was a Republican, y'know! And Rutherford B. Hayes he wuz another one!"
Steve also accused Bush of stealing the 2004 election. "[Bush] stole the last election [and] he stole this one," Steve charged. Steve said Bush could not have won the election, given the "mass hysteria running rampant through the streets that they had to get rid of Bush."
"Mass hysteria" would seem to be an accurate description. And it certainly didn't dissipate with the election. But Steve should really look up the definition of hysteria...
Molly from Massachusetts accused the Bush administration of "putting out fake science fake pseudo-science and having Nazi doctors the same way Nazi Germany did in a lot of ways. There are a lot of parallels now between America and Nazi Germany," Molly said.
Kinda makes you wonder if Molly's ever actually read anything about Nazi Germany...
But one of the Inaugural Ball attendees dismissed any comparison of Bush to Hitler.
"Hmmm... Yasss... I would dismiss any comparison of Bush to Hitler."
"Is that a Major Hoople hat?"
"Yasss, it is."
"If you want to make a World War II comparison, then the proper comparison for Bush is [former British Prime Minister] Winston Churchill," said Joe Biles from Lubbock, Texas. "These people ought to be comparing [former Iraqi dictator] Saddam Hussein to Hitler," Biles added, dismissed the protesters as "the extreme fringe."
That's a pretty polite way of calling them nutjobs...
'Our country is suffering'
Many of the protesters expressed outrage that Americans are celebrating the Bush inauguration at what they call a time of tragedy. "How can anyone who has a heart come and pay thousands of dollars to do this when the tsunami wave just knocked out so many people and there are over 100,000 dead in Iraq?" said Sam Joi from the group Code Pink.
Betcha they donated more money as a group to aid the tsunami victims that Sam and Code Pink did...
Joi said the United States is in dire straits: "Education is going, all our social services are going, unemployment is soaring, people are suffering here in this country. How can they have a celebration tonight for this obscene amount of money when our world is suffering, our country is suffering?" asked Joi.
"I'm suffering! I spent all my time in school carrying a sign and never got educated! Our social services don't pay me enough of a dole to get by without taking odd jobs! I'm unemployable because I can't think rationally and I have eleven rings in my face, my body is covered with tatoos, and I have a stainless steel bar through my butt cheeks! How can they have a celebration when they have more money than I do? I'm suffering, I tells yez! Suffering!"
Joi said the inaugural partygoers were "greedy, they are hogs, they are pigs. How much do they need?" Code Pink members passed out bumper stickers with "Hallibacon" written on them, a mock reference to the defense contractor Halliburton, formerly chaired by Vice President Dick Cheney.
My breath is taken away by the depth of wit and subtlery displayed. Who knew there were that many sophomores in the world?
Molly from Massachusetts slammed capitalism: "This is a perpetuation of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. We are dividing the country into two classes, and that is disgusting; and there are starving people all over the world and they are having this absurd, excessive party," Molly said. "Capitalism right now is just making rich people rich," she added.
"Many of them used to be poor, but now they're not, and that's disgusting!"
'Shame on you'
At one point during the protest, Green Party members and supporters of former Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry clashed. "John Kerry is the richest f*** in the Senate. You voted for John Kerry, shame on you," a Green Party supporter told Kerry supporters.
"You coulda voted for our guys, whoever the hell he was! We knew he was gonna crash and burn! But you threw your vote away on John F'ing Kerry and he crashed and burned, too! So what's the difference?"
Representatives from an organic farm commune also took part in the protest. A woman named Neyci from a 40-member, West Virginia-based commune wore a button proclaiming "Stop Bitching, Start a Revolution."
Like, profound, man!
Neyci explained that her commune's goal was to "try to change in the culture through our art, to get out a different kind of like holistic philosophy that's about finding out the truth of what the hell is going to work, because frankly we are up against some really raunchy sh**."
"Oh, an' we're gonna work out a new definition of coherence, 'cuz the one we got ain't workin'! Not for me, anyway..."
Most of the inaugural party-goers walked past the protesters without comment, but Mike Scott of Texas told Cybercast News Service that the protesters "need a job." A woman making her way past the protesters declared that she would have "no comment for such a stupid group."
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Um, keanulint-heads? Islam is not a race, nor is Bush trying to exterminate Muslims.
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All I want to know is, how many big giant puppets?
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"'If you want to make a World War II comparison, then the proper comparison for Bush is [former British Prime Minister] Winston Churchill,' said Joe Biles from Lubbock, Texas. 'These people ought to be comparing [former Iraqi dictator] Saddam Hussein to Hitler,' Biles added, dismissed the protesters as "the extreme fringe."
Good for Joe. He is a neighbor here and a fair amount more polite than I would have been.
I might have been invited to the inauguration myself, but I'm still on probation for having been a Democrat most of my life. It wasn't 9-11 that woke me up, it was the weird, nakedly totalitarian whine-fest that followed the 2000 election. It was obvious to me that the Gore campaign simply wanted to tie up the result until the Republicans surrendered "for the good of the country," as they did in 1960. Those who doubt this, who believe that there was a legitimate electoral issue, should realize that the Republicans themselves could have disputed the results in hundreds in places in an endless cycle of count, re-count, lawsuit and chaos.
From the Washington Post Inauguration Photo Blog:
Hundreds of people gathered at both ends of Meridian Hill Park in Northwest Washington for a peace rally sponsored by the D.C Antiwar Network.
But there were interlopers: Thirteen members of ProtestWarror, supporting the Bush administration and its policies in Iraq. When the Bush supporters arrived, about 20 black-clad, self-described anarchists emerged from the crowd, shouting profanity and epithets and demanding that they leave the peace rally.
When the Bush supporters refused to leave, the anarchists tore the signs out of the Bush supporters' hands and stomped on them. When ProtestWarrior leader Gil Kobrin objected, several male anarchists knocked him to the ground, kicking him in the back and punching him. Other anarchists punched and shoved Kobrin's 12 colleagues.
After D.C. Antiwar Network members broke up the fight, the Bush supporters heeded their order to leave the park. Kobrin then called D.C. police, who are now guarding them at the entrance of the park as they hold up their pro-war signs. "We're going to hang tight," Kobrin said. "We're expressing our freedom of speech just as they are expressing theirs." --Robert MacMillan
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Kobrin shoulda pulled his 45 caliber from it's holster and shot the slimey communist.
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Believe it or not, I got a robo-phone call at dinnertime LAST NIGHT from left.org, encouraging me to go to McPherson Square this a.m. to protest the inauguartion. They used a voice that kinda-sorta sounded like Dubya. Very odd. Did not receive a single call like that during the election. Oh well. I'm glad they wasted their money on me...but I'd like that 30 seconds back, LOL!
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Hmmm. Haven't had a good rumble in a decade. And never against Fascists. Sucks to be here with this poor outnumbered bunch of Americans being assaulted and denied their civil rights.
I enjoyed the description of the Texas Highway Patrol and the bottom of the first page. Too bad the asstards in black, the self-described anarchists, didn't try their Fascism in front of the guys in the mirrored sunglasses. Would've been short, sweet, and bloody.
There is a small core of seriously fucked up people in America. Surgery is required.
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I wonder what the nazi would do in this situation? Being that we neocons are considered Nazi and they are 'peaceful democratic' people. I will have to research what the Nazi storm troopers (in black) did to protestors in the 1930s. Probably just asked them nicely to move along and chatted friendly with them.
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I'm pretty sure the Nazis would have done exactly what the "peace protestors" did. Actually, I'm positive of it -- the Nazis made a habit of attacking anyone they disagreed with politically.
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The JackAss was there and was one of the 13. Photos posted at http://stupidrandomthoughts.blogspot.com/. I didn't get a picture of the fight because I had my camera in my bag. Some of the protestors were trying to grab it.
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One other thing, Gil is ok but he did take a couple of hits in the back and head. I do have video of the so-called peace protestors, but it is over 5 megs and I can't get it on my blog.
Richard Cohen Alchemy is the purported science of turning base metals into gold. It does not exist. Political alchemy is the ability to turn hard failures into gossamer triumphs. It does exist. The inauguration of President Bush for a second term proves it.
Gosh, Richard! Did your guy lose, by chance?
The President, of course, does not see it that way. He proclaims himself at the top of his game: ruler of the free world, liberator of Iraq and magnificent chief of the Grand Old Party.
I don't think he sees himself as "ruler of the free world." Republicans don't "rule" people. They "govern" them, and his writ certainly doesn't extend to the entire Free World. And he did liberate Iraq. The guys who were in charge before, and the nasty neighbors on all sides are trying to negate that, but he dunnit, and he's glad. And if he's not chief of the Grand Old Party, then what is he?
Most important, in his view, is that his view is shared by the American people.
Better'n 50 percent of us, at least...
His reelection was no mere mandate, since, you will recall, he claimed that the last time, when he scratched out a win in Florida by only several hundred votes. No, this victory is a mandate of Rooseveltian dimensions. With precisely this sort of self-assurance, Napoleon crowned himself Emperor of France.
And with precisely this sort of self-assurance, Roosevelt... uhhh... didn't.
In reality, Bush's view of the American people is not shared by the American people.
It is by the ones who voted for him. More people than voted for Kerry, I might point out, again...
In fact, a recent Washington Post-ABC News poll found Bush with what you might call a negative mandate. Only 45% said they wanted the country to go in the direction Bush wants, and on Iraq - the No. 1 issue for most Americans - 58% disapproved of the way he has handled what to him is a grand triumph.
But still they voted for him. More than voted for Kerry, in fact. Better'n 50 percent, Richard. We won. You lost. Are those grapes kinda sour?
The 60-day war is now in its second year, and the chorus of those urging a pullout grows louder and louder. Even former Mayor Ed Koch says it's time for the U.S. "to declare victory and ... bring our troops home." Koch, a Democrat who supported Bush's reelection, also supported the war and, oddly, still does. Still, he wants out.
As soon as the Bad Guyz are under control, we can leave.
Koch's position may seem inconsistent, but it's consistent with a kind of inconsistency writ large.
That's just the sort of meaningless statement Dems love, isn't it? It sounds so profound, yet there's no substance to it, naught but a bit of fluff and a slight whiff of bullpoop...
The war in Iraq is a debacle, and yet Bush talks about it as if it were going swimmingly.
The war in Iraq is hard-fought, against a vicious and tenacious enemy that stands against everything we hold dear...
His original aims have been amended a bit - now it's a grand march toward Middle East democracy.
That's why it's so hard-fought, Richard. He's against everything the fascists and the holy men and the murderers hold dear, which is their own power.
Daily, Americans are losing their lives for ... well, it's hard to say. A Shiite majority? Sunni participation in the election? An autonomous Kurdish state? All of these, without question, are issues that have long transfixed the people of Omaha and other cities in America, and for which they gladly have sacrificed their sons and daughters.
It's not that hard to say, not if you pay attention. Daily, Americans are losing their lives fighting against head-chopping, boom-loving fascists in turbans, trying to bring to Iraq something approaching the level of individual freedom enjoyed by Greece or Turkey or Armenia.
The cover of Mad magazine used to show a picture of a smiling Alfred E. Neuman and ask, "What, me worry?" Bush has the same perplexing affect: Why? Iraq aside - and, really, that's not possible - are there other areas where the administration has done so well that you can say it explains Bush's smile? The economy? Hardly. It's okay - not really terrific and not bad, either. It is, though, the recipient of huge and reckless tax cuts that have spread cash like Tinkerbell does fairy dust. The result has been a burgeoning national debt that can be paid off only if space exploration discovers a planet of suckers willing to buy U.S. bonds. Is the universe that big?
That the economy's doing so well is quite an accomplishment, given the fact that we're at war. War is expensive, and our enemies are daily trying to batter us on the economic front. Bought any gasoline lately? Heat your home with oil? It's not only soldiers who fight wars, Richard...
Could it be education? Hardly. No Child Left Behind is a nifty slogan and maybe a good idea, but it is not the sort of thing that gets Presidents on Mount Rushmore. Conservation? Are you mad? Agriculture? You jest.
Don't have any specifics on his sins in those areas, huh?
Maybe it's the way we've been able to stop nuclear proliferation or the way America is now respected around the world, particularly in Muslim countries. Sorry. Just kidding.
Lemme see, here. Libya's hopped off the nuclear bandwagon. The A.Q. Khan ring has been broken up and Pakland hopefully scared away from Great Gaming nuclear weapons for a few years. Nuclear war between India and Pakistan has been averted twice in the past three and a half years. Rather than ignoring North Korea's dabbling in radioactives we're actively putting pressure on them. And we'll probably go to war with Iran over their own nuclear peccadillos. Respected around the world? Oderint dum metuant, Richard. Those are the countries that have declared war on us, or at least significant proportions of their populations regard themselves as being on that side. So I'd be a little less concerned about whether they like us and a bit more concerned over how many of them are driving boom mobiles...
Bush's unsurpassing achievement has been to make fantasy seem like reality and failure seem like success. He strides the world stage, a genuine smile on his face and a false mandate in his pocket. Behold the gold! What, you don't see it? No matter. Washington does.
Richard's, and beside him the Democrats', unsurpassing achievement has been to denigrate the very real accomplishments of a man who'll probably be regarded as one of our better presidents fifty or a hundred years from now. I find it comforting that fifty or a hundred years from now Richard Cohen will be long forgotten.
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"No! No! No!" whined little Richard, as he stamped his tiny feet in impotent rage. "He didn't win! He doesn't have a mandate! He's stupid! I'm smarter than he is! I write for the Washington Post and he doesn't! Notice me, damn you, notice me! . . . ."
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Waaa, WAAAA WAAA WAAA. Ok we get it, you lost and your not happy, doesn't mean we are. Please seek medication, gett drunk for three years, but please just shut the fuck up!
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I don't understand what you mean, Dishman. Unless you are referring to turning steel into tin cans and tractors and cars, and silicon into computers.
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This is the new "narrative": Bush is an unpopular, incompetent president who somehow got lucky and won the presidential race. Williams and Russert were pushing it on NBC before the inauguration this morning with the added caveat that the Democrats need to stop nominating northeasterners (like Kerry, demographics ya know). Man, these guys are pathetic. The slick, post modern BS is getting weaker by the day.
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TW
Dishman may be referring to the transmutation of uranium into plutonium. We now know that plutonium does occur in nature, but our entire stock was produced by transmutation in nuclear reactors. This is true transmutation in the alchemical sense, the conversion of one element into another.
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Of course, the institutional media culture practices a different kind of alchemy. Their shamans, typified by Cohen, turn common neuroses into power, and horse manure into gold.
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11A5S - Interesting. I've stopped surfing the talking head shows of the LLL, but that certainly echoes much of the print media delusions I've seen.
But one thing brought me up short... To WIN by 4 MILLION votes, which I would guess is more than or near the total cast for a winning candidate in most European elections, and call it "somehow got lucky" is about as deluded as I've ever heard, lol!
I will acquire tolerance for the morons - as soon as they begin to show it for the democratic process and those who differ with their views. I am particularly intolerant of fascists. I guess we'll soon see, but if this shit doesn't wane, it will get very ugly. The Dhimmicraps in Congress seem determined to take us down that path.
9-11 awakened me to a lot. As you point out, there are all these anti-democratic threads out there. Facism, Leninism, po-mo crapola. It seems like everytime we chop one thread off, they go through some sort of weird recombination to form some new evil. Now we're fighting the Islamists and this queer "Western Civilization Death Wish" (WCDW) that's causing Europe and Japan to breed themselves out of existence and is trying to take root here.
The donks have pretty much been infiltrated by the post modernists and the WCDW crowd. They they really believe the post-modern crap, that if they control the narrative, they can gain power. Of course that shows how damn stupid they are since po mo theory states the opposite: he who holds power controls the narrative. But then as we've established here, liberals aren't exactly big on logic.
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WCDW - Melike! Accurate, clean, economical. That's a keeper - I hope you don't mind if I plagiarize it, lol!
A quibble... With the MSM being part (or as I said on another thread today [from memory]: "a wholly owned pocket of pus") of the WCDW tumor, I'd say they do control the old comm channels. That Bush, et al, don't use their power to prevent this is an amazing aspect of our system - which gives me immense pride. Re: The old -- I cannot express how grateful I am for the Internet and for Rantburg - and the lesser sites like The Puppy Blender - without them, I'd still be buying some asshole like Crankcase saying, "And that's the way it is..." without a clue.
The Senate Foreign Relations Committee voted Wednesday to confirm Condoleezza Rice as secretary of state after two days of hearings in which she faced strenuous Democratic assaults on the Bush administration's handling of Iraq. Pending approval by the full Senate, Rice would be the first black woman to hold the job. She was confirmed by a 16-2 vote with Democrats John Kerry of Massachusetts and Barbara Boxer of California voting no. Other Democrats, including ranking member Joseph Biden of Delaware, had said they were reluctantly voting to elevate Rice to the nation's top diplomatic job. A vote by the full Senate was expected by Thursday.
As the committee voted, Secretary of State Colin Powell bid farewell to his "family" at the State Department. "You were my troops, you were America's troops," the former Army general said. "You are the carriers of America's values." He called Rice "a dear friend" and said she would bring "gifted leadership" to the department.
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Nice pic. It looks like Rice has snatched the pebble from Rumsfelds palm. Any suggestions for the name of this technique?
Mine: Fighting Boxer Breast Crab
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That's a pretty good imitation of WJ Clinton's Intern Octopus Hands.
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My sons are under strict orders: I want a daughter-in-law like Condi.
(I want Eowyn for the other daughter-in-law. Yes, as a matter of fact, I do have high standards.)
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Notice the two NO votes.
John Scary and Boxer.
He is up to his old tricks again.
What a " negative " Mofo he is. Wonder why he lost? John Scary does not play well with others.
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Kerry probably wishes he could change his vote today Jules. Really hard to believe. Even Biden voted yes ( though reluctantly ). Kerry will never know how to choose his battles. You know why ? Hell he doesent even know why ...
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I *do* like that picture. Condi obviously has been studying the 1000 Fighting Styles of Rumsfeld. The pic in the local fishwrap showed the Squeeze Head Like Grape technique. Wish I could find it online.
This is on the Jihadwatch for Jan 20. If this turns out to be true, even the MsM dhimmis may not be able to suppress it (although I'm sure they will try)
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"... Hossam Armanious, is the source of this information, which comes to you exclusively from Jihad Watch:
The Armanious family had inspired several Muslims to convert to Christianity — or thought they had. These converts were actually practicing taqiyya, or religious deception [also dissemulation see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya for a somewhat apologetic description and http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter6b/1.html for a description by Moslems and a more intellectually honest description at: http://www.ci-ce-ct.com/Feature%20articles/02-12-2002.asp] , pretending to be friends of these Christians in order to strengthen themselves against them, as in Qur'an 3:28: "Let believers not make friends with infidels in preference to the faithful -- he that does this has nothing to hope for from Allah -- except in self-defense."
It was these "converts" who knocked on the door of the Armanious home. Of course, the family, not suspecting the deception, was happy to see the "converted" men and willingly let them in to their home. That's why there was no sign of forced entry. Then the "converted" Muslims did their grisly work...."
This is important enough that if I think of it, I'll post it tomorrow also.
A federal judge threw out a lawsuit Wednesday by foreign-born terror suspects challenging their detention in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, ruling that last year's landmark Supreme Court ruling did not provide them the legal basis to win their freedom. Thank God, at least one Judge has some common sense!
U.S. District Judge Richard Leon ruled that Congress had authorized the president to order the detention of "enemy combatants" for the duration of the war on terror. He would be my NEXT appointment to the Supreme Court! Lawyers Whiners representing the detainees said they would appeal. If allowed to stand, the decision would "render meaningless" the Supreme Joke Court ruling by allowing detainees access to federal court, but then automatically dismissing their suits as groundless, they said. Can I get an AMEN?
Sonnet, who monitored the tribunals in Cuba last August, said the military procedures were inadequate. Not enough soft pillows and virgins for the detainees?
"The military review tribunals are a sham," he said. "They don't give any detainee an effective right to contest conditions of his detention." I am crying BIG Barbara Boxer tears over them!
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"They donât give any detainee an effective right to contest conditions of his detention."
Still have their heads? Far better than detainees in Fallujah before Novemeber. Oh, and by the way, the war, per Senate Joint Resolution 23, passed in 2001 is on till Congress gets around to repealing it. Might be a while in detention.
WASHINGTON — Several lawmakers are concerned Paul Volcker is too close to the United Nations to carry out a truly objective investigation of the Oil-for-Food program. "He's more interested in protecting the United Nations than investigating what happened," one congressional source familiar with the investigation told FOX News. Volcker, who is heading up a U.N.-appointed commission probing the scandal-ridden Oil-for-Food program, was tapped by U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan. That in itself worried some congressional investigators. But Volcker's longstanding ties to the international organization and a new revelation uncovered by FOX News have heightened those fears.
The latest news centers on Volcker's relationship with the UNA-USA Business Council, a powerful group that has been highly vocal in its support for the United Nations since news came out that Iraq's Oil-for-Food program was plagued with mismanagement problems and lack of oversight. Volcker was on the board of directors of the council until last year and hasn't ruled out going back once he concludes his investigation. One congressional source said, "That's really scary."
Sounds like business as usual for the UN
FOX News has also learned that one of the three biggest financial contributors to the UNA-USA Business Council in 2003 was the French bank BNP Paribas, which handled all Oil-for-Food transactions and is at the center of Volcker's investigation.
So Volcker is investigating the bank that cuts his paycheck?
Yeah, no conflict of interest there.
Sources on Capitol Hill also expressed concern about playing down the significance of the internal U.N. audits released last week. Before they were made public, Volcker told the New York Times that "there are no flaming red flags in this stuff." But congressional investigators doing their own review of the program found what they called a "forest of red flags." Those investigators also were furious with Volcker's characterization. "He's trying to minimize his own investigation's findings. That's inappropriate spin. It legitimately brings into question what's his purpose," one investigator told FOX News. John Danforth, former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, said he had confidence in Volcker's veracity. "He is a very, very able person who is trying to do an excellent job and will do an excellent job with those tools that are available to him," he said. Danforth, whose last day on the diplomacy job was Tuesday, had earlier told FOX News that despite Volcker's good intentions, he did not have the tools necessary — such as subpoena power — to effectively investigate the multibillion-dollar program.
A spokeswoman for the Volcker commission, formally known as the Independent Inquiry Committee, would not respond to specific questions asked by FOX News about potential conflicts of interests, saying simply that the panel will let the report speak for itself. That report is due to be released by the end of the month.
Minnesota Sen. Norm Coleman told FOX News on Wednesday he saw signs that the investigation is going in the right direction. Coleman, a Republican who is leading one of five congressional probes into Oil-for-Food, saw progress with Tuesday's guilty plea by an Iraqi-born American citizen, Samir Vincent, to several charges tied to the program. He said Vincent's plea is further proof that former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein was illegally bilking millions from the program that was aimed at feeding and clothing Iraqi civilians in his country.
"First it shows that there is some validity to the list we got from the Iraqis that said that Saddam Hussein was bribing people to act as agents of his government ⊠we've got someone now who's pled guilty to doing what our investigators have understood for quite a while now," Coleman said.
When asked if Volcker was the right man to head such a high-profile probe, Coleman had nothing less than personal accolades for the former Federal Reserve chairman, but said he was waiting to see the results of Volcker's investigation.
"I think he has challenges in trying to do what he's going to do, but we'll see. We've gotten some preliminary documents from him so far, which we're pleased to get, but in terms of what he's produced we're waiting to see," Coleman said. "But there's a lot here in this Oil-for-Food scandal and it's a scandal ⊠I wish Paul Volcker the best. We're certainly willing to work with him. But this is more then just one person, one investigation, to get to the bottom of it."
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Former President Jimmy Carter has been linked with a key figure in the U.N.'s oil-for-food scandal by the group leading the nationwide effort to evict the United Nations from American soil and halt U.S. funding of the U.N. Move America Forward today will call upon Carter to provide a full accounting of his meetings and conversations with Samir Vincent, who yesterday pleaded guilty to participating in numerous illegal activities as part of the U.N. scandal. "One of two things happened," suggests Morgan. "Either President Carter was totally duped, and allowed himself to be conned into working as an indirect agent of Saddam Hussein, or President Carter knowingly associated himself with a foreign agent who was seeking to undermine American foreign policy." "No more working for peanuts! Let's get some liquidity going on!" Yes, Jimmah is rather old, so some degree of senility and gullibility is to be expected. Perhaps that is exactly what he was counting on. It may be about oil, after all...
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...Oh please, PLEASE...
Nothing could get my year off to a better start than finding out that sanctimonious son-of-a-bitch had his fingers in the till or facilitated the work of those who did.
Mike
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Ditto!!!
What the SOB did in my country, Venezuela, is unforgivable!
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Jimmy wasn't the only one associated with Samir...
Start in the third paragraph under the "Influential People" heading here:
http://www.americancatholic.org/Messenger/Feb2000/feature2.asp
The question is what happened after those meetings?
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More on Samir...
http://tim.2wgroup.com/blog/archives/000494.html
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from tom's link:
From Tom's link
Samir Vincent,, calls action on the embargo a âpolitical dead end.â He and Dr. Joseph Ritchie, also a private citizen, decided to go down a different roadâaway from politics and politicians, toward the world of religious belief and influence. The two businessmen prevailed upon Dr. Billy Graham to invite the Iraqi religious leaders to visit several sites in the United Statesâand later, London, England.
I think Rev. Billy's dead now. But as I said yesterday, this wouldn't surprise me, personally. The man has a huge house, limos and all the finer things in life, all paid for with money taken by little people who thought it was going to better causes, like charity or spreading the good word. So, seems like a logical step to steal money from the UN - money taken from the little people (us), intended for charity.
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I'll take "Totally duped, and allowed himself to be conned" for $500, Alex.
It's not like it would be hard to do. It's been happening to him for years all over the world.
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Oh, please. Billy Graham is possibly the only famous preacher alive who has any kind of scruples. I don't recall any scandals attached to him, esp. of the "taking donated money for himself" type.
Meanwhile, today's NY Post says Jack Kemp was in touch with this Samir guy. There's lots of stuff on him over at silflayhraka.com. The guy has a very shady past, and I don't know that I'd trust him with any of his accusations. Not without corroborating evidence.
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Are you sure that's not Jr? Growler - I won't stand in judgement of the good Rev - but I'm always leary of preachers who compensate themselves with mansions, limos and fine living from the offerings of those whose lives are far more humble ..as Rev Billy Graham has done.
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2b - Have you got a link about those mansions & lilmos for the Rev. Graham?
I've always understood that he lived modestly.
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That would be Rev. Franklin Graham, Billy Graham' son's. I would be deeply surprised if Billy Graham was taking money for anything unscrupulous. He is a man who took his religion seriously and, as far as I know, lived what he preached.
U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney on Thursday expressed concern that Israel may attack Iran, in order to eliminate any nuclear threat from Tehran. Cheney added that Iran was at the top of the American administration's list of world trouble spots.
"If, in fact, the Israelis became convinced the Iranians had significant nuclear capability, given the fact that Iran has a stated policy that their objective is the destruction of Israel, the Israelis might well decide to act first, and let the rest of the world worry about cleaning up the diplomatic mess afterwards," Cheney said... "diplomatic mess"...Now *that's* an interesting euphamism.
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Looks like the division of responsibility has been made. Too bad for the Syrians.
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I don't think Mr. Cheney expressed "concern" that Israel may attack Iran. The writer meant to use the word "hope". As do I.
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I'd rather we did it, frankly, and mentioned the hostage taking and beirut bombings in the press release.
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Dick Cheney always expressed himself well. :-)
Illea iacta est, perhaps?
What needs to be done needs to be done...so, when do'ya think the fireworks will begin. I see a green light... not so dimly. The 20th, if I recall right, was supposed to be the date when a decision is to be made (at least as Syria and its [non]compliance with US requests is concerned... some form of coordination of time frame maye be advantageous--let the world yell bloody murder at once, rather than in staggered fashion).
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Nothing like stepping up the diplomatic heat :) class statement , combined well , i thought , with Bush "those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves; and, under the rule of a just God, cannot long retain it".
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If Iraq goes well, Bush will gain so much in stature that he will be able to change the world - for the better. If Iraq goes toes up, it will be blunted to trading water, unless a major attack occurs somewhere that we care about. That's not a long list, either.
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I kind of like the Cheney picture--makes a definitive statement. The firearm goes well with the suit--appropriately matched for the discriminating. Looks like a 1911 model .45 cal. Good firearm--don't know why the military went to the Beretta 9 mil. pistol. I know the special ops use other weapons that are better, in my opinion.
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Khamenei urged students to continue to promote the culture of Jihad and martyrdom among themselves
F*cking a$$hole! Always telling the kids to kill themselves. If martyrdom is great become one yourself. We'll all be happy.
Iran accused the United States of trying to disrupt its nuclear negotiations with the European Union by evoking the threat of a military strike, and warned Washington it would respond to any "unwise measure." "With reliance on enormous popular support, diplomatic capacity and full military capability, the Islamic Republic of Iran will firmly respond to any unwise measure or plan," foreign ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi said in a statement responding to "recent comments by US officials".
On Monday US President George W. Bush said he could not rule out a resort to military action if the United States failed to persuade Iran to abandon a nuclear energy programme it charges is a cover for developing the bomb. US secretary of state-designate Condoleezza Rice also called Tuesday for world action to keep Iran from building nuclear weapons, and repeated a threat to haul the Islamic republic before the UN Security Council for sanctions. "We see such moves as a psychological campaign and political pressure," Asefi said. He said one of the aims of the US administration was "not to help and enourage Europe to peacefully settle some disagreements through diplomacy and talks, but to disrupt the Iran-EU nuclear talks by pretending they are unsuccessful."
The EU's "big three" -- Britain, France and Germany -- have been spearheading diplomatic efforts with Iran and are in the midst of crucial talks aimed at finding a long-term solution that would ease international worries. "We recommend the new American foreign minister avoids repeating past mistakes by reviewing America's wrong and unsuccessful policies of unilateralism and oppression," Asefi said of Rice. "The United States of America has fallen into an abyss of several crises as a result of the wrong attitude of hard line neo-conservatives. There is no way out unless it reviews and corrects past mistakes." The foreign ministry statement also followed a report in the New Yorker magazine Monday that US commandos had been operating inside Iran since mid-2004 to search out potential targets for attack -- something the magazine said could come as early as mid-2005. The Pentagon said the report was "riddled with errors."
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Maybe we can convince Iran and N.Korea to consolidate their Dire Threat(tm) memos in a joint communication as the two remaining Axis of Evil [copyright GWB 2001] members rather than separate drivel. Maybe we can get them to do it in Paris, most appropriate. Vichy is nice in the spring I hear.
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Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!
A FATWA against the author Salman Rushdie was reaffirmed by Iran's spiritual leader last night in a message to Muslim pilgrims. British officials anxiously played down comments after Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, told Muslims making the annual pilgrimage to Mecca that Rushdie was an apostate whose killing would be authorised by Islam, according to the Iranian media.
His words came during a lengthy tirade against "Western and Zionist capitalists" and the US-led War on Terror. However, senior British officials swiftly made plain last night that the Iranian Government, which had disassociated itself from the fatwa in 1998, had not changed its position.They pointed out that because the fatwa was issued in February 1989 by Iran's revolutionary founder and Khamenei's predecessor, Ayatollah Khomeini, who had since died, it would always remain in existence. They insisted that the move did not presage a further deterioration in the already tense relations with Iran over its nuclear programme. "This should not be taken as a new development," one said.
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A number of educated, middle class friends have recently taken a dim view of my belief that force should be used unsparingly to remove these fascists from power. I'll say it again.. you can't have people who think that, at God's willing, the sky can fall on their heads having control of a nuclear arsenal. The sooner this bunch of cranks are ousted, the better. Doubtless we'll have the baying hordes back burning his books on the streets of London even tho they can't speak English and have never read 'em. Fascism pure and simple. Bombs away!!
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Howard,
I am even more extremist on this than you are.
I think the British Government as well as the entire EU should conduct public trials to all religious and political figures issuing Fatwas, convict all of them of planning a murder and general incitement and give them long prison
terms in their absence.
Any one of those convicted in their absence will
be arrested and jailed the second they show up at any western airport.
If any of them actually succed in murdering Rushdi
or another western victim like Ali Hirshi, I suggest Britain or the Dutch should send special agents or units to kidnap the Mullah who originally issued the Fatwa and bring him to London or Amsterdam to stand trial and be publicly hanged.
P.S. I know I am daydreaming and no British or European official has balls large enough to really do this but I still think that there should be some way that the real snakeheads could be executed for sending other fanatic shitheads to murder someone for a religious offense.-
Poor Howard 'A number of educated, middle class friends have recently taken a dim view of my belief that force should be used unsparingly to remove these fascists from power' .. I have this issue all the time at work and with a few friends , one person even threatened to quit because of my views . How I laughed ..
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McN - all the non-pc types have been moved to the upper floor of my building where we continue to rant in isolation... 'splendid isolation', I believe Churchill called it.
Azcat - bang on the money kidder - we're going to have to grow balls in the EU or lose all our artistic freedom.
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EoZ even.. dementia creeps ever closer..
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And the thing that really really REALLY pisses me off is that they , the less moderate muslims, feel alienated because their customs and traditions aren't respected by the majority of people in the UK. Hey, Shakespeare refers to the Moors/Muhammedans as animals - would he have had a fatwa pronounced upon him?
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MacNails - I'm very curious as to what kind of company has employees who threaten resignation because of another employee's view on a particular issue. In what type of firm do you work (public/private, large/small, many nationalities/primarily UK)?
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Small private firm Lex , set up by myself and a few friends . Yeh yeh yeh , business and pleasure dont mix , or so folk say . But we , apart from our differing social views , work very well together . The threat to quit was very real , person in question was our chief programmer who has lead a very sheltered 'educated' life . The threat to quit was more an issue in saving our friendship , but we ironed out our differences and now we agree to disagreee , and leave it at that .
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Yup, Nottingham's famed for its p-c outlook.. try Ilkeston - the pinko-liberal heartland of the East Midlands!! We still await our first mosque..
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It amazes me that one man who once upon a time wrote a silly book would be so virulently and omnipresently in the thoughts of generations of Iran's national leadership.
That country needs booze and psychotherapy, and lots of it.
PS We have a major problem here. The hordes of Muslims knocking on Europe's gates to escape persecution are the same "cells" that will establish roots in our free western democracies and then turn around and obey Fatwas from the same Nazi's they escaped from. What a mess!!
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British officials anxiously played down comments after Iranâs supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, told Muslims making the annual pilgrimage to Mecca that Rushdie was an apostate whose killing would be authorised by Islam, according to the Iranian media.
One cruise missile right through this assahollah ayatollah's front door should be enough.
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I did. Even bought a copy in a gesture of support. I found it a bit turgid though; Rushdie's Midnight's Children, about the early years of Indian independence, is much better.
I read about 3 chapters and lost the urge - that was long, long ago. Might see it in a different light, today, but he looks like he's doing fine, heh. Donated my hardback copy to a library where they store such things. Books I enjoy go to friends with the requirement that they pass them along when finished. No one should keep a book, that's just greedy, IMHO.
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TW & .com-I didn't care for it either-a very cumbersome, complicated writing style-it just wasn't a pleasure to read. I got about as far as .com before I moved on to another book. I am however glad he wrote it, simply for the sole benefit of p*ssing off the Mullahs.
We have to buy more bookcases every few years, just so we can move the piles out of the corners! Even though we haunt the libraries and friends' bookcases. I was positively dreading the possibility some years back of being posted to China -- the thought of paring down our collection to fit the tiny apartment we would have lived in was distressing almost beyond words.
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Ha! tw is the epitome of greed! Evil! Share with those who are still fog-bound. You know people who are clueless (unfortunate, but unavoidable, heh) - so clue them in! Unless they can't / won't read. Then you're just going to have to shoot them -- or get them to believe that it doesn't matter who holds office and, therefore, they don't need to vote... your choice!
I think a first edition or signed edition of an important work would be my only exception. My epiphany regards this habit occurred around '98 and I began divesting myself of my collection. I donated over 400 books to the company's new smoking room at one place I worked. It was a major success that grew to over 700 volumes within 2 years. And there were more non-smokers than smokers in there at any given time you dropped in.
This is just one of those little Buddhist thingys I've adopted - I happily rip off the good ideas from all religions and ideologies I run across, lol - waste nothing, find someone who needs what you no longer need. Once I've read a book, and "get it", then I no longer need it. ;-)
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Oh, I do give away and loan out books, .com. And sometimes get them back, too... the "sometimes" part annoys Mr. Wife no end, as I often can't remember to whom I loaned them. Ah well. Its just that A) we re-read a lot, and B) given a choice I'd choose books over furniture or a vast wardrobe (which, admittedly, I don't have anyway, so its an easy choice). But when it comes to books, which are thoughts made flesh, as it were, I gleefully admit to being greedy as a child in a candy shop with a whole dollar to spend. So there!
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It's taken me 30 years to give away books. I still don't give away the really good stuff, it's unlikely you'll every find a copy of Janes with my BC# in it. That said bookcrossing has helped me relieve the guilt of many years of "overborrowing".
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How 'bout a home-grown fatwa on the ayutollah cornhola. Or would that be bad Karma. What about getting hit by a group of 10,000 bibles air dropped from FL300? That would put some spin in the turbans. But first ya give 'em the black spot, yar.
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United Nations diplomats are warning that Iraq's first democratic election will be held without wide-scale international monitoring. And this is a problem because?
The UN says it cannot observe the January 30 poll because it played a role in setting up the elections, and no other international organisation has stepped in to offer assistance. Ah, yess. Catch 23
The absence of international monitoring could undermine confidence in the results of elections that are already threatened by widespread voter intimidation and the boycott of Sunni Arab parties. And as a result the Iraqi delegation could not be seated in the hallowed General Assembly chamber. Yes I'm starting to see it.
But one UN official said there would be sufficient scrutiny by local party observers and domestic non-governmental organisations. "It's not essential to have international election observers," said Carlos Valenzuela, the UN's Iraq election expert. A Canada-based umbrella group of electoral experts, the International Mission for Iraqi Elections, was established in December to help assess the process, but insists it is not a monitoring mission.
"Monitoring is a big problem. There won't be any international observation mechanism," said one UN diplomat. "The UN is not willing. No one is willing. No one wants to send their people there."
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Lucky Iraqis.
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Somehow this news fails to disquiet me.
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Officials organizing Iraqi expatriate voting in Jordan said this past week that any Israelis who turn up to vote will be rejected.
According to Iraqi election procedures, people born in Iraq or children of Iraqi parents living abroad have the right to vote in polling places around the world. For Israelis who emigrated from Iraq or their children, the nearest such voting station is in Amman, Jordan. But, according to a January 18th report in the English-language Jordan Times, Jordanian Minister of Culture "Asma Khader said Israelis of Iraqi origin are not eligible for voting in line with the Independent Electoral Commission of Iraq (IECI)...." Khader went on to say that this is the case "even if Israel tried to push for it."
In Baghdad earlier this month, IECI spokesman Farid Ayar told the French news agency, "Any person who comes forward with Israeli documents to prove they are of Iraqi origin will not be able to vote for the simple reason that we do not recognize that country."
However, Sarah Tosh, a spokesperson for the Geneva-based organization handling the voting of Iraqi expatriates was apparently unaware of Israel's unique status. She said, "Israelis of Iraqi origin will be authorized to vote in the elections to parliament" at the Amman polling station.
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surprised? no. disappointed? no. Give them time...
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I doubt that Israelis who are refugees from Iraq would care to vote. They are now Israelis. Most have fought for Israel, and lived there for years. They were forced out of Iraq, probably before the time of Saddam. They do not want to return. For all but a handfull, this matter is irrelevant.
On December 26, the world witnessed perhaps one of the most deadlieast disasters in modern times, when an undersea earthquake generated huge tidal waves in the Indian ocean, killing at least 175,000 people, including many tourists who came to spend their vacation on the enchanting Southern East Asian shores. Aside from picking up the pieces and trying to aid those who survived the tragic waves, many across the globe are trying to do some soul-searching into why this horrific disaster took place. Among the various "explanations", an Egyptian opposition weekly offered its theory, claiming the earthquake was a result of a joint India-Israel-U.S. nuclear experiment, that brought about the movement of the tectonic plates located underneath the ocean. According to Al Usbua, the experiment's goal was a U.S.-Israel attempt to put an "end to humanity".
It worked. We'll all dead now. Nobody's left, which is a good thing because of the stench of billions of rotting corpses.
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If the US *did* cause the tsunami, and I'm not saying we did *cough* Haliburton *cough*, the last last thing you all want to be doing is messing with folks that can generate earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes and giant meteor strikes at will. Just a little friendly advice...
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..an Egyptian opposition weekly offered its theory, claiming the earthquake was a result of a joint India-Israel-U.S. nuclear experiment, that brought about the movement of the tectonic..
Sounds like these dim bulbs have been watching movies like "The Core", and starting to believe in that sort of outlandish qaqaa.
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hehe .com , the postman has problems delivering a single letter , let alone anything else , but sure leave it on my driveway . I may have a use for it .. ;)
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I've seen 'the core' too (but not Deep Throat....) and it can suck-start a harley :). Only a person stuck in the 7th century would swallow the 'science'.
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The usual villains, mad scientists plotting to destroy the world for their own gain.
I resemble that remark...
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I thought it was caused by the the Earthquake Generating Module that was attached to the International Space Station a couple of days earlier. It was sent up as a "re-supply mission" on a Progress cargo ship.
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Personally, I can't figure out how to profit from destroying the world, which is probably just as well, he he.
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...the last last thing you all want to be doing is messing with folks that can generate earthquakes...
People never think of this. It's like in all those witchcraft movies where the villagers surround the accused witch, shouting and throwing stones. The fact that you're not zorched where you stand is pretty much proof that she's not a witch, dipshits.
Similarly, if we were going to destroy humanity, or at least thin it out a bit, would we start with SE Asia? No, we would not.
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Space Ghost? Current cartoon or something? My kid's 27, so it's news to me.
Hell a LOT is news to me, lol, I missed almost everything for about 5.5 years. I get to watch back-to-back CSI episodes every weeknight on Spike TV - they aren't reruns for me, lol! Thurs is best, cuz the current season show is also on, conveniently right after the 2 Spike episodes run. Between RB, Brit Hume on Fox, CSI, the Military Channel, and every movie channel Cox carries, life is sweet. From total info shutdown to pure gluttony, lol!
It's been quite a while since I went back to Global Security (btw, it's where I discovered Rantburg, with an article about warbloggers, back in the olden days) and there seems to be a good coverage of the ongoing WOT/WWIV, including the military options against Iran. Browse as you see fit, sorry for those who already knew about it.
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This is an excellent resource link to save for future use, but if you haven't taken the time to read the content - it's definitely worth it. Utterly unspun and as factual as they can make it. The Iran page is a good timeline for reference, too. Regards Iran, I also liked the countdown clock, heh.
Dunno if we have that much time, but Pike & Co know more than I do, so I won't pretend otherwise.
Via Captain Ed and Powerline
Well, sure. ABC wants to "balance" its coverage of President Bush's inauguration with coverage of a military funeral:
Jan. 19, 2005 — For a possible Inauguration Day story on ABC News, we are trying to find out if there any military funerals for Iraq war casualties scheduled for Thursday, Jan. 20. If you know of a funeral and whether the family might be willing to talk to ABC News, please fill out the form below:
Note that only the families of Iraqi war dead need apply. If a soldier died in Afghanistan, or aiding tsunami victims in Indonesia or Sri Lanka, or in a training exercise, never mind. That isn't the "balance" ABC is looking for.
Every time I think the MSM have stooped as low as they can go, they surprise me.
Captain Ed has a screen capture, good thing as ABC has now taken it down
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There was already one this morning with Diane Sawyer ...
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ABC stands for America's Bottom-feeder Corporation.
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GOVERNMENT ministers were at odds today over whether yesterday's bomb attack in Baghdad that wounded two soldiers specifically targeted Australians. They also questioned claims al-Qaeda was behind the truck bomb which detonated outside the Australian military barracks opposite Australia's embassy in the capital.
While Attorney-General Philip Ruddock and Foreign Minister Alexander Downer both said it was likely the bombers targeted Australians, Defence Minister Robert Hill said he did not think they had.
"You can't ever tell in these things. We've been in the building for some considerable time and it's well known the building is occupied by coalition forces," Senator Hill said today in London. "Whether those who sought to attack it identified those forces as Australian or whether that was relevant to them, I don't now. But I suspect probably not.
"It was simply seen as a target associated with coalition forces in Baghdad."
The bombing was one of a series of attacks in the Iraqi capital yesterday ahead of elections scheduled for January 30. Mr Ruddock said it was impossible to know for certain whether Australia was the target of the attack.
"We don't know for certainty whether or not Australia and Australian interests were being targeted, but it is reasonable to make certain assumptions that we could have been," he said. Mr Ruddock would not be drawn on what specific evidence he would need to be convinced the bomb had been aimed at Australian interests.
He was sceptical about a claim of responsibility for the attack by a group led by al-Qaeda ally Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, which posted a statement on a website.
"There is no certainty about claims that are made on websites, websites can sometimes be from a source that is telling you accurately what their claims are, sometimes they can be others who are making claims." The al-Zarqawi group was very active and had previously made threats against Australia's interests, he said. "With the information I have now from Baghdad, and I've spoken to the ambassador (in Iraq) at some length, it looks as though the embassy itself was targeted," Mr Downer said in Los Angeles today.
Commonsense pointed to the attack being directed at Australia, Mr Downer said.
"The vehicle was clearly directed towards the incomplete apartment block adjacent to the embassy where a lot of our soldiers are based," Mr Downer said.
"It would have only headed in that direction if it was aiming at our embassy."
Acting Prime Minister John Anderson also said the blast suggested Australia may have been the target, but denied the statement proved Australian interests were the focus of the extremists.
"It may be that that is the case, it may not," he said on ABC radio. "But we see these websites making all sorts of claims, sometimes they prove to be accurate, sometimes they don't." "It was a significant explosion, of course, in the vicinity of the security detachment building, which is next to the Australian embassy, and that suggests that Australia may have been the target.
"But we have no confirmation of that, we certainly have no confirmation of who might have been responsible."
Well, that certainly clears everything up, thanks..
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Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) faced Tuesday, January 18, a crucial test of his new leadership after major resistance factions rejected his call for a ceasefire with the Israeli occupation army, vowing to fight on. "The resistance is not the exclusive of anyone but remains as a strategic choice of all Palestinian factions and the Palestinians," Hamas Spokesman Mushir Al-Masri told IslamOnline.net. He said Abbas has given in to the "Zionist dictations and his call to a ceasefire is undermining the praiseworthy resistance."
Masri said the mortar attacks on the Israeli settlements and the Negev village of Sderot have paid off. Abbas, who is due to hold talks with leaders of the resistance factions Wednesday, January 20, has come under swift and varied pressure since his election last week. Israel has refused to talk to Abbas him until he reins in the "militants" with Hawkish Prime Minister Ariel Sharon threatening military action if he does not do so within two to three weeks. Abbas ordered his security forces on Monday, January 17, to prevent anti-Israeli attacks. Sharon's spokesman called this "a small step in the right direction."
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Popcorn might be the more appropriate graphic here. Those who appreciate a good Arab vs. Arab spat will be rewarded! Seriously, whether or not Abbas can "rein in" the boomers is up in the air. I say no. If there is a real effort, then Paleo civil war (a la Lebanon) will occur. If not, then the status quo (boom, counter-boom ad infinitum) will continue. I used to say with Arafish that either he could control the boomers and wouldn't or he couldn't control them so why deal with him? In either case the boomings continue. The same logic applies to Abbas. Either he controls the boomers or to hell with him and deal with Hamas et al. directly.
New Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has fired dozens of advisers to late leader Yasser Arafat, the first sign of a big shakeup since he was elected, officials said on Wednesday. Abbas is under pressure at home and abroad to clean up the corrupt structures bequeathed by Arafat, who died on Nov 11 after decades as leader of the Palestinian fight for a state. Officials said Abbas had fired 50 of 55 civilian and military advisers — though well over 1,000 staff were still employed by Arafat's office in the West Bank city of Ramallah. "It's an empire," said one official. "This is an important step that will be followed by more such changes to make administrative and security reforms."
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Who told you jerks that my cut remains the same?! I'm capo the tuti capi now!
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Deck chairs and shares of the pie, which I believe is shrinking since their enablers and allies are having domestic economic woes.
The only reliable source of funding are the oil ticks - who use them as a distraction, a side show, to redirect and channel the native vitriol and bile of their own populations.
Take away the money, make them sink or swim on their own in the really hard world of [insert Mac's *gasp* here, lol] merit: capitalism.
When there's no money, the shit will stop.
Obviously a brilliant legal mind at work here. What're they going to be detained for? Future crimes? Present crimes? Are there any we've missed here?
A Sindh High Court bench on Wednesday observed that no person could be detained for his past crimes and the authority warranting detention of a person must possess evidence that the future acts of the person, whose detention had been ordered, could be detrimental to law and security of the country.
So I can murder Maudette with an ax and steal all her jewelry, and tomorrow I can't be detained, because the act is in the past? Good deal. I could use some nifty jewelry...
The bench comprising Justice Ata-ur-Rehman and Justice Zia Perwez was hearing the petition challenging the detention of Dr Akmal Waheed and his younger brother Dr Arshad Waheed under the Anti Terrorism Act (ATA). The doctor brothers, facing charges of harbouring terrorists before an Anti Terrorism Court, were granted bail by the Sindh High Court on December 2, 2004. The same day provincial government issued order of their detention under section 11-EEE of the ATA for one-month and extended it for further one month on expiry. The bench further observed that the condition of representation before government in Article 10 of the Constitution was not automatic, the detaining authority must mention in its order to detainee that he had an opportunity to make representation before the government against the detention order. The bench asked the petitioners' counsel M Ilyas Khan to argue on the next date about the possible impacts of not availing remedy of representation before government on the petition.
I thought it was the Chinese who were supposed to be "inscrutable"?
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"So I can murder Maudette with an ax"
Yes, but don't even think about using cruet set, Fred.
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This sounds like an even better deal then "repenting".
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This is beyond stupid - it's surreal, Twilight Zone stuff. Conveniently, i.e. when it suits them, the terms "past" and "present" will then be defined, I guess. Wotta load of retarded twittery.
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A relatively small sample size, yes, on the order of 1000 per country, could be indicative IF the samples were balanced in each country to match. So, if each sample had the same number of, say, middle class professional married males aged 35-50, females ditto, unmarried blue-collar males aged 20-34, females ditto but including pink-collar workers, etc, then the results could be considered valid. There is a lot of statistical science in putting together a sample pool -- the art lies in constructing it to provide the bias you want (in the unlikely event that bias is desired -- but of course biased results lead to faulty conclusions, which everyone knows is a Bad Thing).
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
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Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
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LONDON: Britain said on Wednesday it planned to deport some foreign terror suspects to their home countries after senior judges ruled the government's decision to detain them without trial was unlawful. Home Secretary (interior minister) 
"The list of the terrorist leaders, who acted on the territory of Russia, shrank from 200 to 10 people," head of the FSB PR department Colonel Sergei Ignatchenko said. It was established that terrorist leader 
According to Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB), Chechen militant leader 
A North Korean national has gained entry to the American embassy in Vientiane and a second failed and was arrested by Lao police, US-funded Radio Free Asia said Wednesday. "Two male adults tried to climb over the fence of the US embassy," an RFA journalist based in Bangkok told AFP, adding that the incident took place Tuesday morning. "One managed to get in and the other one was arrested by Lao police and taken to (a) police station," he added, quoting a Lao police officer speaking on condition of anonymity. Lao foreign ministry spokesman Yong Chanthalangsy said he could not confirm the report. An official at the US embassy in Vientiane refused to comment directly on the report, which if true could lead to the first successful attempt by a North Korean to seek political asylum in communist Laos. "The United States have always been concerned by the suffering of the North Korean people including those who have fled to other countries," said the unnamed official. Two North Koreans entered Sweden's embassy in Hanoi last December just day after four had gained entry to the French mission in the same city.
TETOUAN-Descendants of the Moors expelled from Spain 500 years ago failed to receive an apology from 
"Filthy Jew!" schoolchildren howl at a classmate. "Jews only want money and power," they tell their teachers. "Death to the Jews" graffiti appear on school walls outside Paris and other French cities. These are not scenes from the wartime Nazi occupation or a fictional France where the far-right has taken control. Outright anti-Semitism like this is a fact of life these days in the poor suburbs where much of France's Muslim minority lives.
The French foreign minister has called for "a new trans-Atlantic relationship" between the United States and its European allies. Too many challenges face the world for the two not to work together in addressing them, Michel Barnier told CNN, but said France will not bow to the will of the United States. "We are allies. Alliance is not submission."
Alchemy is the purported science of turning base metals into gold. It does not exist. Political alchemy is the ability to turn hard failures into gossamer triumphs. It does exist. The inauguration of President Bush for a second term proves it.
The Senate Foreign Relations Committee voted Wednesday to confirm 
Former President 
Iran accused the United States of trying to disrupt its nuclear negotiations with the European Union by evoking the threat of a military strike, and warned Washington it would respond to any "unwise measure." "With reliance on enormous popular support, diplomatic capacity and full military capability, the Islamic Republic of Iran will firmly respond to any unwise measure or plan," foreign ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi said in a statement responding to "recent comments by US officials". 
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Palestinian President 
New Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has fired dozens of advisers to late leader Yasser Arafat, the first sign of a big shakeup since he was elected, officials said on Wednesday. Abbas is under pressure at home and abroad to clean up the corrupt structures bequeathed by Arafat, who died on Nov 11 after decades as leader of the Palestinian fight for a state. Officials said Abbas had fired 50 of 55 civilian and military advisers — though well over 1,000 staff were still employed by Arafat's office in the West Bank city of Ramallah. "It's an empire," said one official. "This is an important step that will be followed by more such changes to make administrative and security reforms."
A Sindh High Court bench on Wednesday observed that no person could be detained for his past crimes and the authority warranting detention of a person must possess evidence that the future acts of the person, whose detention had been ordered, could be detrimental to law and security of the country.
