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-Great Cultural Revolution
@BENZ_PILLED ANIMATION: Columbia University and the Shadow State // Mike Benz is on fire!
[YouTube] If you don't follow Mike Benz, you must!
Columbia is where the Frankfurt School retreated to sit out WW2 in safety while we Americans freed their country from the Nazis and did the spending and dying. It's no coincidence that BLM and George Floyd protests started there.


Posted by: Elmomoter Mussolini9149 || 08/23/2025 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [96 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Most excellent Elmo !
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/23/2025 1:35 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Extreme heat creates 'recipe for disaster' for vulnerable seniors, expert warns
Posted by: Skidmark || 08/23/2025 00:44 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [142 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yeah, no shit.
My mile time has dropped into the 12s.
Posted by: Skidmark || 08/23/2025 0:46 Comments || Top||

#2 
Living in a Metro, where a 100,000++ AC units are transferring the HOT Air from inside to the outside areas, is only adding to the Heat problem.

Some, What If Math to chew on:
Say the average person has a 323 sq/ft AC cooled area. That 323 square feet (30 sq/meters) per person being pushed back outside.

Now using 323 x Metro Population = Heat being added/focused to the outside.
Posted by: NN2N1 || 08/23/2025 7:34 Comments || Top||

#3  People without history tend to repeat the same problem.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/23/2025 7:59 Comments || Top||

#4  People on the margins are always the first over the edge.
That's why it's called the margin.
Posted by: ed in texas || 08/23/2025 8:44 Comments || Top||

#5  How much heat per hour do humans dissipate?
Posted by: Skidmark || 08/23/2025 10:00 Comments || Top||

#6  This has been known since forever.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/23/2025 14:09 Comments || Top||

#7  It's quite comfortable here on the southern California coast. We had a little monsoon activity this morning. That was fun. It might get all the way to 80 this afternoon.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 08/23/2025 14:15 Comments || Top||

#8  It's gonna be really nice at the beach.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 08/23/2025 14:15 Comments || Top||


-Land of the Free
The warrior ethos effect: Why female enlistment is surging under Trump
[FOX] For years, we’ve watched with frustration as Democratic administrations pulled America’s military away from its core mission and dragged it into a culture war that it never asked for.

As a veteran and a current service member of the U.S. Armed Forces, we have seen firsthand how the military was transformed under the Biden administration into a progressive playground where identity politics took priority over readiness. Standards were weakened. Language was policed. And under the banner of "diversity," the integrity and morale of our military was quietly undermined.

It’s no wonder military recruitment hit historic lows, especially among women. When the Pentagon began forcing female service members to share locker rooms, showers and sleeping quarters with biological males, it sent a loud message: Women’s safety and privacy were no longer a priority.

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#1  Makes sense.
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#2  Looking for the few good men?
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Home Front: Politix
Who Should They Give Florida to? A Primer for Friedrich Merz
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.
by Oleg Shevchenko

[REGNUM] "It's like asking the United States to give up Florida." This comparison was made by German Chancellor Friedrich Merz, arguing that "Kiev cannot be forced to give up territories," including Donbass. The phrase was voiced at a meeting between Donald Trump, Volodymyr Zelensky and his European support group. The collective visit to the White House became a real festival of strange historical analogies.

There, let us recall, Finnish President Alexander Stubb stated that the Finns “found a solution in 1944 (when the country “abandoned” its ally and patron Adolf Hitler. — Ed.) and therefore will find a solution in 2025.” If Stubb’s statement “set up” only Finland itself, then Merz stepped on the sore spot of the President of the United States.

Addressing Trump in the presence of journalists (i.e. expecting his words to be immediately spread around the world), the German Chancellor clearly meant that the US would never give up its ancestral, indigenous lands – Florida, for example. And he got into trouble.

It's not even that the descendants of European migrants (from whom the founding fathers of the United States came) did not have "their own" lands on the North American continent. The British, as well as the Dutch, the Spanish and the French, some three or four hundred years ago seized lands that had belonged only to the Indians for 15 thousand years.

The fact is that Florida has nothing to do with the 13 British colonies that in 1775 raised a separatist rebellion and formed a self-proclaimed state - the United States.

The sunny Florida peninsula remained outside these events, it had completely different owners (or rather, many owners). And with the true owners, the native inhabitants of these lands, the Americans had to wage a bloody war - before including them within their borders.

THIS LAND HAD ANOTHER NAME
It all began in 1513, when the expedition of the Spaniard Juan Ponce de Leon landed on the shores of the peninsula. This companion of Christopher Columbus had previously discovered (or rather, conquered for the Castilian crown) the island of Puerto Rico. Ponce de Leon's arrival to the new land coincided with Catholic Easter, so the conquistador called the land Pascua Florida - "Flowering Easter". But this land was neither no man's land nor nameless. For example, the Indians of the Bahamas (later exterminated by the colonizers) called the neighboring peninsula "Canico".

According to scientists, the ancestors of the Indians came to the lands of Florida from the north 12 thousand years ago. By the time the Spaniards arrived, the peninsula was inhabited by 100 thousand people - people from the nations from which the names remained: Calusa, Tequesta, Tocobaga. The largest tribe was the local branch of the Apalachee people - no less than 25 thousand people. Now only 300 Apalachee remain, living on a reservation a thousand kilometers from Florida, in Louisiana.

For enlightened Europeans, the land inhabited by "pagan savages" was no one's land - the conquest of the "empty" territory was achieved with great bloodshed (which was not observed, for example, in the parallel process of Russian development of Siberia, the Far East, and then Alaska ). In 1521, the same Ponce de Leon tried to make Florida Spanish, but the attempt to found a colony ended in fiasco after battles with the Indians.

The next attempt was made a decade and a half later by the comrade of the conqueror of the Inca Empire Francisco Pizarro, the conquistador Hernando de Soto. But this expedition to Florida also ended in failure. Just like the attempt at Spanish colonization in 1561. As a result, the Spanish crown lost 2,000 dead conquistadors. No one counted how many Indians were killed.

"EXECUTED NOT AS FRENCHMEN, BUT AS LUTHERANS"
Then the French began to "discover" Florida under the command of the famous admiral Gaspard de Coligny, the leader of the Huguenots in the Religious Wars, who died during the St. Bartholomew's Day massacre. The French, led by Chevalier René Goulaine de Laudonnière, built a fortification on Indian lands - Fort Caroline (in honor of King Charles IX of Valois ), which the Spaniards perceived as an encroachment on "their" territory.

On September 8, 1565, the adelantado (a person commissioned by the king to conquer new lands) Pedro Menendez de Avilés landed in Florida and founded his city, San Augustin. He drove the French out of Fort Carolina and - since they were Huguenot heretics - killed almost all of the prisoners. The good Catholic de Avilés hung the bodies of the prisoners on trees, providing an explanatory inscription: "(Executed) not as Frenchmen, but as Lutherans."

The last surviving men of de Laudonnière fought off the Spanish at Cape Canaveral, the same place where NASA's spaceport is now.

But the French did not remain in debt. Soon the corsair Dominique de Gourgues, with the permission of his king, burned the Spanish fortifications, except for the rebel San Augustin.

At the same time, the French chevaliers and Spanish caballeros did not stop warring with the Indians. By the second half of the 17th century, the Spanish crown managed to pacify the "savages". But then the colonizers began to worry about another enlightened European nation.

In 1668, San Augustin was "visited" by the English filibuster Robert Searle, a defender of His Majesty's colony of New Providence, and also one of the best captains in Henry Morgan's pirate "team". The robbery of Spanish Florida became one of the main successes of Searle's gang.

WHY DID FLORIDA HATE THE FOUNDING FATHERS OF THE UNITED STATES?
In the 18th century, the British state itself entered the battle with Spain for the West Indian colonies. Following the Seven Years' War, which England and Portugal won and France and Spain lost, the Treaty of Paris was signed in 1763. It involved an exchange of territories: the Spanish gave Florida to the British, and they returned the rich colony they had captured earlier, Cuba. When the Spanish left, they took with them the last 200 indigenous inhabitants of the peninsula, out of the tens of thousands who had inhabited "flourishing Florida" before the European conquests.

Thus Florida became English-speaking for the first time.

In 1775, north of Florida, 13 old British possessions on the Atlantic coast began to revolt. George Washington's Continental Army (which the British Crown saw as little more than bands of rebels) waged war against the legitimate colonial authorities.

Interestingly, the residents of the Florida colony condemned the separatists. In 1776, the outraged residents of St. Augustine — as the English renamed the Spanish San Augustin — burned effigies of the rebels. The honor was bestowed upon Washington's comrades John Hancock (known as the "author of the largest signature on the Declaration of Independence") and John Adams, who later became the second president of the United States.

I wonder if Donald Trump knows how Floridians symbolically executed his "colleague"?

After the declaration of independence of the USA, Florida, like British Canada, remained a loyal colony of George III. And there was a reason: Governor James Grant proved himself a smart administrator, convened the first legislative assembly in history, did not hinder trade, was at peace with the redskins from the adjacent wild lands. Why should the colonists support troublemakers from Massachusetts or Virginia, whose victory promised only problems?

But English rule soon ended. In 1779, King Carlos III, taking advantage of Britain's problems with separatists, declared war - and in 1783 made Florida Spanish again.

But all this "handing over" of the peninsula took place on paper. In fact, the French and the Spanish were fighting for control of San Augustin (Saint Augustine) and other fortresses. The territory around them was controlled by completely different people.

PROXY POWER IN THE GRAY ZONE
Seminole is a name that is familiar to everyone, unlike Calusa or Tocobago. Many have read Mayne Reid's Osceola, Chief of the Seminoles. This romantic 1856 work is the reason why the Seminoles are considered the original Floridians, which is incorrect.

These were descendants of Indians from various tribes who came from the north, whom the English colonizers had driven from their lands. Along the way, the tribes mixed and even accepted blacks who had fled from the plantations. But be that as it may, by the turn of the 17th–18th centuries, it was this mixed people who were the ethnic majority on the peninsula.

In the early 19th century, the United States actively supplied the Seminoles with weapons, setting them against Spanish Florida and its allied Indian tribes. The Indians kept cities and large plantations under siege, and the peninsula itself essentially became a "gray zone."

But the US has created a problem for itself that will continue to arise in our time: American proxy power has gotten out of control.

Of course, the Seminoles cannot be compared to Osama bin Laden's Islamists. The Indians were not "ideological" thugs, they were defending the land where several generations of their ancestors had lived. But be that as it may, their raids from Florida disturbed the southern states. Then the Americans decided to transfer the war to the territory that was de jure controlled by the Spanish.

TEXAS IS THE "FLORIDA THAT MADE IT"
The first attempt to make Florida American was in 1812. Moreover, according to the scheme by which the USA would later take Texas from Mexico. American colonists move to foreign territory, then they revolt and proclaim an independent republic, the Congress and the President of the USA recognize this state and include it in the United States.

In 1812, a certain "Patriot Army" of settlers from Georgia revolted in Spanish East Florida. It was later revealed that the separatist rebels were led by US Army General John Matthews, who had been sent by President James Madison to negotiate with the colonial authorities. The "Patriots" were a private army recruited by Matthews.

A little later, the rebels were supported by the regular US army and navy, but then something went wrong.

The Seminoles intervened in the war, the Americans and "patriots" did not have enough forces to storm San Augustin, and the army and "patriots" were recalled. Thus, the "test version" of the future Texas scheme turned out to be unsuccessful.

The United States decided to take Florida without intermediaries. In 1817, after a series of skirmishes with "unpeaceful" Indians, US Secretary of War (Minister of Defense) John Calhoun ordered troops to cross the US-Florida border to "punish the Seminoles." In addition to "punishment," the Americans forced the garrison of the Spanish fortresses of Pensacola and San Marcos de Apalachee to capitulate.

And in 1819, Secretary of State John Quincy Adams (the son of President John Adams, who was “symbolically burned” by the Floridians) concluded a treaty with the Spanish on territorial demarcation. The US received territories along the Mississippi River, New Orleans (which the Spanish had previously taken from the French), and Florida. All that was left was to “persuade” the Seminoles.

HOW THE TREACHEROUS JESUP DECEIVED THE NOBLE OSCEOLA
But they were not going to give up. The people waged three full-scale wars with the United States (the first - from 1814 to 1819; the second - from 1835 to 1842; the third - from 1855 to 1858). The bloodiest was the Second Seminole War, where the troops of the Seminoles, Creeks and allied tribes were commanded by that same Osceola.

The role of pacifier of Florida was played by Major General Thomas Jesup, who had previously distinguished himself in suppressing the Creek tribe in Georgia and Alabama. Jesup had at his disposal a large unit by Florida standards (9 thousand bayonets), with the support of the Navy and Marines, who controlled the coast, cutting off the smuggling of weapons from the sea. Unlike the First War, where the United States and the Seminoles acted, essentially, on equal terms, now the Americans had a clear numerical advantage. The core of the army of the chiefs Osceola, Arpiaki and Micanopy consisted of no more than 1.5 thousand fighters.

While campaigning deep into Florida, Jesup did not send large units against the Indians or attempt to force a pitched battle. The general chose the tactic of wearing down the enemy. By May 1837, Chief Micanopy chose to surrender to the "palefaces," but Osceola and Arpiaki did not bury the hatchet. Moreover, they lured 900 Indians who had previously surrendered to their side. But Jesup acted cunningly - neutralizing the chiefs.

The first victim was Coacoochee (Wild Cat) - this leader of one of the Seminole clans was invited by the general to negotiations, and when Wild Cat came with a white flag, the American “arrested” him.

Osceola, apparently unaware of what had happened to Coacoochee, fell into the same trap. The Seminole "general" came to Fort Peyton to negotiate with the Americans, was captured, and sent away from Florida to a prison on an island off the coast of South Carolina. Osceola died behind bars.

His last request was to be buried in his homeland. But the prison doctor, Dr. Frederick Weedon, did something different with the body of the "savage": he cut off the head and buried the decapitated body near the fort. And he put the "oddity" - Osceola's head - on display in his drugstore. When Dr. Weedon's three sons were disobedient, he often brought the Indian's head into the bedroom before going to bed - as a warning. Later, the "artifact" was presented to the president of the New York Academy of Medicine, the famous anatomist Valentine Mott.

Osceola's head was destroyed along with other exhibits in a fire at the Surgical and Pathological Museum in 1866.

The deception of the most famous leader of the Florida Indians cost General Jesup his reputation - he was called a traitor not only by the inhabitants of the peninsula, but also by some congressmen. But the deed was done: Jesup's raid turned the tide of the Second War and neutralized the most serious forces of the Seminoles. The third campaign of 1855-1856 only finished off the resistance.

FLORIDA DID NOT GIVE UP
Eventually, most of the Seminoles gave in and went west. Today, about 6,000 of their descendants live in Oklahoma, the former Indian Territory where the U.S. government brought many Native Americans. Only about 200 warriors resisted to the last. 3,100 of their descendants live on five reservations in Florida.

In the 20th century, the federal government “bought” its former enemies: the Indians were allowed to conduct gambling and trade tobacco on reservations.

The crux of the matter is that the US administration did not conclude a treaty with the Seminoles to hand over their Indian lands on the peninsula. The Seminoles were a belligerent party, but not a party to political and legal agreements.

In the late 1950s, blacks and then Indians began fighting for civil rights. In 1957, the Seminoles approved their own Constitution at a tribal council, and in 1963 they began publishing their own newspaper. The Indians call their "nation" an unconquered people who did not transfer legal rights to Florida to the United States of America.

But the federal government apparently listens only to those minorities that do not undermine the foundations of the American state. The European Union, which advocates the preservation of its small nations and regional languages, might – in theory – pay attention.

In any case, if Chancellor Merz were more familiar with the history of the United States in general and Florida in particular, he would not cite this territory as an example of something "originally and inalienably belonging" to the United States. The question "to whom should Florida be given?" is not so clear-cut. The Spanish, the French, the English? Or perhaps the Seminoles?

Posted by: badanov || 08/23/2025 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [139 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...In fairness, for far too many European elites, the US consists of NY, FL, DC, TX, and CA, with a dark scary place between those places that decent people shouldn't concern themselves with.

In Barbara Tuchman's The March Of Folly, she points out that during the British colonial era before the Revolution, not a single King's minister ever visited the colonies. They knew only what they were told by their own kind - that Americans were a barely civilized class of marginally violent smugglers, conmen, and layabouts whose primary goal was to deprive His Majesty's Exchequer of its rightful income. A surprising amount of the things that happened next can be laid to that ignorance, and I feel a lot of the people who run Europe these days could benefit from that experience.

Mike
Posted by: MikeKozlowski || 08/23/2025 7:52 Comments || Top||

#2  So, should England be returned to the Picts and Celts?
Posted by: ed in texas || 08/23/2025 8:50 Comments || Top||

#3  The difference is that we have the will and capacity to deport the folks who have invaded our country.
Posted by: Super Hose || 08/23/2025 8:52 Comments || Top||

#4  Jean François Revel’s Anti-Americanism addresses the development of the strange ideas they have in Britain and Europe about America. It is unfortunately not available as an ebook. Pn the other hand, Claremont has a review that is a reasonably quick introduction to the ideas.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/23/2025 9:11 Comments || Top||

#5  that Americans were a barely civilized class of marginally violent smugglers, conmen, and layabouts whose primary goal was to deprive His Majesty's Exchequer of its rightful income

Sort of a proto-Australia, if you will. Yay, us!
Posted by: SteveS || 08/23/2025 9:36 Comments || Top||

#6  So they're up to giving back East Prussia* to Germany?

* colonized and ethnically cleansed by the Soviet Union in 1945, renamed Kaliningrad.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/23/2025 9:40 Comments || Top||


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Last LCS to be Commissioned 15NOV25 - Any Bets on Decommissioning Date?
[DefenceBlog]
Posted by: Clem+Elmish4239 || 08/23/2025 07:36 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [119 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Give it to the Philippine Navy to bottom out on one of the shoals the Chinese are trying to claim.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/23/2025 9:36 Comments || Top||

#2  In the great Navy tradition, the cry "Give 'em to the Marines" seems to be echoing.
Posted by: ed in texas || 08/23/2025 13:04 Comments || Top||

#3  @#2 - The Marines want nothing do w/ the Little Crappy Ship (LCS). Was always an answer to a question that was never asked IMNSHO.
Posted by: Bangkok Billy || 08/23/2025 17:10 Comments || Top||

#4  USCG might have interdiction uses given the ample helo deck and hangar space?
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 08/23/2025 17:22 Comments || Top||

#5  Actually the independence class has been good. The single-hull freedom class needs to go into the shredder.
Posted by: Cloting Clusose2637 || 08/23/2025 18:06 Comments || Top||



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