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[FoxNews] Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth attempts to set the record straight on the Atlantic article.
[IsraelTimes] Trump adviser Mike Waltz inexplicably includes The Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg in encrypted messaging chat to plan bombing campaign against Iran-backed Houthis in Yemen Trump administration officials earlier this month accidentally added the editor of The Atlantic magazine to an encrypted group chat, in which they discussed highly sensitive plans for the military to strike Iranian-backed Iran's Houthi sock puppets ![]() Believing Youth. Hussein Badreddin al-Houthi is said to be the spiritual leader of the group and most of the military leaders are his relatives. The legitimate Yemeni government has accused the them of having ties to the Iranian government. Honest they did. The group has managed to gain control over all of Saada Governorate and parts of Amran, Al Jawf and Hajjah Governorates. Its slogan is God is Great, Death to America™, Death to Israel, a curse on the JewsThey like shooting off... ummm... missiles that they would have us believe they make at home in their basements. On the plus side, they did murder Ali Abdullah Saleh, which was the only way the country was ever going to be rid of him... rebels in Yemen ...an area of the Arabian Peninsula sometimes mistaken for a country. It is populated by more antagonistic tribes and factions than you can keep track of... The incident was made public on Monday, in an article by Jeffrey Goldberg, who was included in the chat. The US National Security Council confirmed the messages appeared to be authentic, and said it was investigating how Goldberg was inadvertently added. The group, on the Signal messaging app, included Vice President JD Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio ...The diminutive 13-year-old Republican U.S. Senator from Florida, Secretary of State in the second Trump administration... , Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, Intelligence Director Tulsi Gabbard, Mideast envoy Steve Witkoff, and 12 other officials. US President Donald Trump ...His ancestors didn't own any slaves... , asked Monday about the story, was apparently unfamiliar with it, and said he was "not a big fan of The Atlantic," and that the leak must not have caused problems, because the attacks were successful. The officials used the chat — to which Goldberg was added, for reasons unclear, on March 13 — to debate the merits of striking the Houthis and how to present the attacks to the public. Hegseth, according to the texts, was worried that Israel would hit the Houthis first. As part of the chat, Goldberg received, some two hours before the bombing began on March 15, a "plan [that] included precise information about weapons packages, targets, and timing." That post, sent to the group by Hegseth at 11:44 a.m., "contained operational details of forthcoming strikes on Yemen, including information about targets, weapons the US would be deploying, and attack sequencing," Goldberg wrote. The plans were sent to the group following a lengthy discussion between the vice president, the defense secretary, and a user identified as "S M" — presumably Trump confidant Stephen Miller — in which Vance complained about "bailing Europa ...the land mass occupying the space between the English Channel and the Urals, also known as Moslem Lebensraum... out again" and insisted that "messaging [be] tight" and that risks to Saudi oil facilities be mitigated. They were followed up with confirmation that the strikes had been successful, and a series of congratulatory messages, and celebratory emojis, from the various cabinet officials. On Sunday, Goldberg exited the group, triggering a notice to the group’s creator, Waltz. No one from the group reached out to him about the situation, however, and it was not until he emailed Waltz and sent him a message on Signal that NSC Spokesman Brian Hughes reached out to Goldberg to confirm the veracity of the chat. "This appears to be an authentic message chain, and we are reviewing how an inadvertent number was added to the chain," Hughes wrote. "The thread is a demonstration of the deep and thoughtful policy coordination between bigwigs. The ongoing success of the Houthi operation demonstrates that there were no threats to troops or national security," he added. National security lawyers interviewed by The Atlantic said that sharing classified information over Signal — a commercial messaging app known for its encryption, and, according to the magazine, used by national security officials for lower-level purposes such as scheduling — was unheard of and potentially illegal. In addition, Waltz set some of the messages to disappear after one week, and others to disappear after four, raising questions about whether the messages were records that the government is obligated to preserve. The US launched military strikes against Yemen’s Iran-backed Houthis on March 15 over the group’s attacks against Red Sea shipping, and have continued ... KABOOM!... s against the group in the weeks since, as the Houthis have claimed to fire at American warships.
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Posted by:Skidmark |
#25 Speaking of the Hootis and war plans: Seven B2 bombers have been moved to Diego Garcia. Cross reference with US saying to Israel, "Just sit back. We got this". File under War & Rumors of War |
Posted by: SteveS 2025-03-25 22:53 |
#24 Burn him. As an example Pour Encourager... you know No further license, career, ... |
Posted by: Frank G 2025-03-25 20:29 |
#23 The above is me. |
Posted by: trailing wife 2025-03-25 20:06 |
#22 an attorney for Covington & Burling A search of the archives for the first quarter of this year for Burling yields four articles, three connected to Special Council Jack Smith, whom the firm aided pro bono (see here). He also apparently has a public service resumé, per the attached tweet at NoMoreBS’s link: 2007-2009: Bush State Department "advisor" for Iraq 2012: Foreign policy director for the Romney-Ryan campaign 2015-2017: Foreign policy advisor for Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) 2017-2021: Deputy Assistant Secretary in the Trump/Pompeo State Department 2021-2024: Hudson Institute It’s not clear to me how he managed two apparently disconnected careers |
Posted by: trailing wifesssoo 2025-03-25 20:04 |
#21 Wiki scrubbed his private practice experience with a DC based law firm. Wiki: Wong worked in private practice with a Washington, D.C.-based international law firm. He provided Fortune 100 clients strategic and legal advice on international trade matters, governmental investigations, and regulatory compliance.[3] |
Posted by: The Walking Unvaxed 2025-03-25 20:03 |
#20 Jewish Insider bio does not mention Covington & Burling. |
Posted by: The Walking Unvaxed 2025-03-25 19:54 |
#19 Oops! |
Posted by: Frank G 2025-03-25 19:32 |
#18 "So the person who supposedly added the journalist to the Signal group chat, Alex Wong, was an attorney for Covington & Burling, one of the law firms that Trump included in his EOs about government contracts and security clearances." " https://x.com/listen_2learn/status/1904551173488586788/photo/1 |
Posted by: NoMoreBS 2025-03-25 19:13 |
#17 PJ Media’s Charlie Martin, who apparently has done intelligence analysis, introduces the term Canary Trap to describe this situation. It’s where a situation is set up to allow a leaker to reveal himself, in this case a private but not secret conversation. As it turns out, one of Mike Waltz’s staffers was the one who brought serial fake scandal trumpeter Mr. Goldberg into the conversation. For European Conservative, Mr. Martin also makes the following points: This wasn't a classified conversation. In fact, it wasn't even sensitive, because they were talking about things that had already been said in public. When they got to something that would be classified, they explicitly said they needed to take it to a higher level. So they knew what was and wasn't sensitive. EC, President Trump had earlier very loudly announced that he was going after the Houthis because they announced they were going to resume firing missiles at Israel and attacking shipping in response to Israel resuming the war against Gaza in response to Hamas refusal to seriously negotiate surrendering. |
Posted by: trailing wife 2025-03-25 18:58 |
#16 From the Atlantic: "According to the lengthy Hegseth text, the first detonations in Yemen would be felt two hours hence, at 1:45 p.m. eastern time. So I waited in my car in a supermarket parking lot. If this Signal chat was real, I reasoned, Houthi targets would soon be bombed. At about 1:55, I checked X and searched Yemen. Explosions were then being heard across Sanaa, the capital city." And this was not classified info? What is? |
Posted by: European Conservative 2025-03-25 17:18 |
#15 Mahmoud, I am following Jeffrey Goldberg from The Atlantic, and his thread says that The Americans are about to attack Yemen? What did you just say? I said the Yankee Dog Pig Americans are about to attack! No, no, no, what is this you are following Jeffry Goldberg, I mean, what's that about? |
Posted by: swksvolFF 2025-03-25 17:05 |
#14 Another tweet about this morning’s Senate testimony. Video can be watched at the link: Media Lies @MediasLies CIA Director John Ratcliffe confirmed that according to CIA record management, Signal is approved for “work use.” Let’s set this record straight. Here is the truth about Signal: -In 2016, the DNC instructed all staffers to exclusively use Signal to talk crap about Trump because it was encrypted. -In 2017, Signal was approved by the sergeant at arms of the U.S. Senate and staff. -The use of common amongst the security community. -Cybersecurity firm iVerify’s Rocky Cole has also stated the app has "stellar reputation and is widely used and trusted in the security community”. -Even Edward Snowden has said that he uses Signal due to its strong encryption services. Elmerert Hupens2660, that’s a very pretty piece of thinking. All sorts of things that hadn’t occurred to me. In fact, this entire thread is full of thoughts that never occurred to me, so now I’m feeling a good deal more educated than I anticipated this morning. :-) |
Posted by: trailing wife 2025-03-25 16:52 |
#13 Another possibility: In a stunning show of brilliant military strategy, President Trump has leaked his top-secret Yemen airstrike plans to The Atlantic so that no one will ever see them or read them. -- Babylon Bee |
Posted by: SteveS 2025-03-25 16:23 |
#12 Unembedable. PIMF! |
Posted by: trailing wife 2025-03-25 16:10 |
#11 Trump reveals who was behind Signal text chain leak [secret lefty staffer] |
Posted by: Skidmark 2025-03-25 16:09 |
#10 Unembeddle tweet of a Fox News interview Rapid Response 47 @RapidResponse47 Senate Intel Committee Chair @SenTomCotton : "The Biden Administration authorized Signal as a means of communication that was consistent with presidential recordkeeping requirements for its administration — and that continued into the Trump Administration." |
Posted by: trailing wife 2025-03-25 16:09 |
#9 Dem senator calls for Waltz, Hegseth to resign as Gabbard says no classified material shared in Signal |
Posted by: Skidmark 2025-03-25 11:57 |
#8 It’s curious that despite American direction to Israel to step back, it has nonetheless been Israel who shot down the missiles headed her way thereafter. Except the one that hit Saudi Arabia, anyway. |
Posted by: trailing wife 2025-03-25 11:57 |
#7 6^ I had a similar hypothesis. My theory was that the US was seeing if they could use Jeffrey Goldberg set up to someday feed false information to the Houthis |
Posted by: Lord Garth 2025-03-25 11:50 |
#6 My hypothesis: A couple of days ago the Israeli govt let the US know that Israel intends to seriously neutralize the Yemen threat. - speculation Some Iran-Qatar-Russia aligned elements in the Trump 47 administration want to prevent this. - speculation The Trump 47 administration tells Israel: Don't strike Houthis in Yemen, 'leave it to us' - fact Strikes are planned that would be impressive fireworks but that also would me materially ineffective if the Houthis received a warning a couple of hours before the strikes. - speculation Information is leaked a couple of hours before the strikes "by mistake." - leak = fact, intentional mistake = speculation /<tinfoilhat> This is tinfoil hat stuff indeed. What makes me suspicious is the prior public message to Israel not to engage Yemen who is constantly committing acts of war against Israel and the subsequent mistake/leak. |
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660 2025-03-25 11:44 |
#5 A curious story. The simple and obvious explanation is that someone screwed the pooch. But given that we live in a media age where things are seldom what they seem, I can't help but wonder if there is more going on here. Perhaps a convincing way to deliver a message that otherwise would not be taken seriously. Not advocating either way, just wondering if the hoofbeats we hear are horses or zebras. Side Note: I'm so old I remember when The Atlantic was worth reading. |
Posted by: SteveS 2025-03-25 09:38 |
#4 Three rules potentially broken by Trump team's Signal group chat leak Maybe not 'war plans' but certainly a representative strategic gestalt. |
Posted by: Skidmark 2025-03-25 08:46 |
#3 You don't transmit 'war plans'. You courier them. Any transmission of operational plans go only by secure comm lines. On the other hand, using other means and fake plans is a way to identify people who do leak. |
Posted by: Procopius2k 2025-03-25 07:40 |
#2 Trump's fury at 'f****ing idiot' official who is 'not going to survive' leaked messages scandal that exposed defense secrets |
Posted by: Skidmark 2025-03-25 07:36 |
#1 Why Was the Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg Added to a Signal Chat About Bombing Yemen? |
Posted by: Skidmark 2025-03-25 01:30 |