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Germany: Who are the AfD's immigrant voters? |
2025-01-12 |
[DW] The AfD is actively courting voters with an immigrant background while at the same time stirring up anti-immigrant sentiment. Why would any voters with an immigrant background support Germany's far-right party? The Alternative for Germany (AfD) sets out its views on im And yet multiculturalism doesn't appear to be a serious threat to the AfD itself: In the past few months, more and more of the far-right's messaging has been aimed at voters from Germany's many immigrant communities — with some success. Born in ...the occupiers of Greek Asia Minor... , 55-year-old Ismet Var has lived in Germany since his childhood, been a German citizen since 1994, and a supporter of the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) since it was founded in 2013. Var works as a delivery driver in the German capital, and his work was directly hit by the rise in fuel prices following Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022. Now he can't understand why so much money is being "thrown away" on economic and military aid for Ukraine. His main concerns, he says, are that taxes are lowered and criminal im The latter is already happening — latest statistics show that Chancellor Olaf Scholz's center-left government increased deportations in the last year. "Now! Now they're deporting people!" says Var over a coffee in the international Kreuzberg district of Berlin. "But they didn't used to." He believes that it took the AfD's intervention in the German political scene for the government to act. As an Alevite, he also feels that Germany has become too tolerant of what he calls "strict Moslems." "I've got nothing against them when they pray at home, but when they do propaganda, then I'm against them," he said. Var experienced racism as a new arrival in Germany in the 1970s: He remembers a janitor in his building telling him that he and his family wouldn't be there if Hitler ![]() were still in power: "But it didn't bother me. I was little," he says. REFUGEE CHILDREN FOR THE AFD Anna Nguyen has also experienced plenty of racism in Germany. Born near Kassel in 1990 to Vietnamese refugees, she is now an AfD representative in the Hesse state parliament. But, she insists, it isn't Germans who are racist towards her — it is mainly people she thinks are Arabs. "During COVID, it was always people with an immigrant background, presumably Arabs, who shouted 'corona, corona' after me and my Chinese friend," she said. "It's true that on the internet I get flooded with racist comments — but from the left, even though they call themselves anti-racists." Nguyen insists that her party, meanwhile, is indifferent to race and is not strategically seeking out voters like her. "It's not about immigrant background," she says. "It's about the fact that all the sensible people in this country want to prevent this green ideological madness. It's about: Can I afford a good life? Is it safe? Do we have a safe electricity supply?" TARGETING NEW VOTERS Voters with an immigrant background are a demographic reality in Germany: Official statistics from 2023 show that some 12% of the German electorate have a non-German background — some 7.1 million people. As recently as 2016, some 40% of voters of migrant background voted for the center-left Social Democrats ...every time you hear the phrase white people, white supremacy, whiteanything but paint, you're listening to a Democrat. Ask him/her/it to reimagine something for you; they do that a lot, though not well. They can hear a dog whistle a mile or two away. They invented the spoils system and Tammany Hall, and inspired the addition of the word (Thomas) Nastyto the English language. They want to stop continental drift and repeal the law of unintended side effects... (SPD), and another 28% for the center-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU). But those loyalties appear to have eroded. According to the German Center for Integration and Migration Research (DeZIM), which is releasing a study on voting habits among DeZIM's Jannes Jacobsen, who co-authored the upcoming report, said the AfD appears to be becoming more attractive for people from different backgrounds. He also pointed out that these voters are German citizens — and see themselves as German. "So it's maybe not such a big surprise that these people don't vote very differently to people who have no immigrant history," he told DW. In 2023, Robert Lambrou, also an AfD state parliamentarian in Hesse, founded an organization named "With Migration Background for Germany" for immigrant AfD supporters. The organization's website says it has 137 members from over 30 countries, and that it is open to anyone "who professes their belief in German culture as the dominant culture and work for the continued existence of the nation as a cultural entity." "My experience of the AfD is that it makes no difference whether one is of immigrant background or not," the 55-year-old Lambrou, whose father was Greek, told DW. "I don't see the party as xenophobic — we want a sensible migration policy." But that is hard to square with statements like that of AfD Bundestag member René Springer, who, in the wake of revelations early last year that AfD politicians were part of a meeting planning mass "remigration" of im Lambrou agreed that some statements are not helpful if they are not properly founded in facts or express important nuances. "When we notice statements by party members that we don't think are ok, then we try to seek out internal party dialogue," he said. NO PROBLEM WITH RACISM? Nevertheless, there do appear to be more and more pro-AfD TikTok videos made by non-white people in the past few months. Özgur Özvatan, CEO of the political consultancy Transformakers, and author of an upcoming book on the political impact of Germans of immigration background, said that the AfD has been actively seeking out the attention of immigrant voters for at least the last year — particularly people with Russian and Ottoman Turkish roots — mainly because those communities are more likely to have voting rights. According to Germany's official statistics, there are over 2.9 million people of Ottoman Turkish background in Germany, of whom nearly 1.6 million have German citizenship. The post-Soviet diaspora, meanwhile, also runs into the millions, and includes several nationalities and ethnicities — including German. Many of these are also likely to feel attracted to the AfD's pro-Russia stance on the Ukraine war. Özvatan argues that this all part of the AfD's larger strategy to expand its voter base. "Its potential voters in the non-immigrant landscape are of course finite," he said. "They might have a potential vote-share of around 20-25% there — but if they want to get towards 30-35%, then they need to expand their portfolio, and that will mean creating content and promise policies for immigrant communities." "People who immigrated earlier are not automatically in favor of immigration," Özvatan told DW. "They can be im Nguyen insists that immigrant voters aren't deterred by the racism and contradictions "because they know who is meant by that — that's the illegal im Özvatan thinks many immigrant voters simply aren't aware of the racist statements, and even when they do hear overt racism, they quickly dismiss it as secondary to their main perception of the AfD — that they don't mean them. "The main feeling is, 'they are friendly towards us,'" he said, "And the AfD tries to engender that feeling." Related: Alternative for Germany: 2025-01-05 Feds' disbanded 'censorship nerve center' faces hellish afterlife amid lawsuits, Hill probes UPDATE: not dead, just renamed Alternative for Germany: 2025-01-03 Deportation After Two Crimes? Germany's New Plan To Combat Repeat Migrant Offenders Slammed As Alternative for Germany: 2024-12-31 Germany says Musk trying to influence election after he backs far-right party |
Posted by:trailing wife |
#3 Western Europeans do love their far left “activists”. The latest on the AfD from Deutsche Welle: Germany's far-right AfD replaces 'Young Alternative' group The nationalist Alternative for Germany party has voted to replace its existing youth organization with one over which it would have more control. AfD leaders have faced problems with some of the group's past activities. The party leadership of the Alternative for Germany (AfD) on Sunday voted to replace its "Young Alternative" (JA) group with a new one under greater party oversight. The decision, ahead of the early February 23 parliamentary election, comes after Germany's domestic intelligence service classified the JA as a confirmed extremist movement. What changes are planned? The JA is relatively independent. Members of the association — with the exception of the board members — do not have to be in the AfD. That would not be possible in the new organization, except for under-16s, who would not yet be able to join the AfD as members. The board's proposal was approved after a lively debate at a two-day party conference in the eastern German town of Riesa, having achieved the two-thirds majority required for the rule change. Board members have suggested the name "Patriotic Youth" for the organization. A now-adopted change in the statutes stipulates that the youth organization's activities "must not contradict the order and principles of the party." It says the AfD and its youth organization — for members up to the age of 36 — should "promote each other's activities to the best of their ability." The party leadership has long been dissatisfied with the JA, saying its difficult-to-control activities could bring the entire party into disrepute. Germany's BfV domestic intelligence services in 2023 said it had found indications that there was enough evidence that the JA had aspirations against the free democratic basic order for it to be treated as a confirmed right-wing extremist organization. |
Posted by: trailing wife 2025-01-12 12:38 |
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Posted by: Mercutio 2025-01-12 11:23 |
#1 The AfD has morphed into a leftist nationalist corbynized party during the last 3-4 years. In the own words of leading AfD politicians they are pro Erdogan, pro Qatar, pro Iran, anti Rushdie and by implication pro Sharia rules for non-Muslims in the West and specifically pro totalitarian Islamic influence on German politics (which is Erdogan's agenda.) Also they are pro Russia and pro China. Weidel's co-chair Chrupalla is opposed to any military reaction to 10/7 and expressed grief for all those killed on 10/7 implicitly including the Palestinian war criminals who were neutralized on that day. This doesn't make the AfD worse than the mainstream 'democratic' parties but they're not better either. Their only remaining redeeming quality is their opposition to the Green Great Leap Forward which will cause a depression if not an outright economic collapse. |
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660 2025-01-12 09:03 |