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Interview: Elizabeth Rush on her epic journey to Earth's 'doomsday glacier'
2024-08-24
Article at the link graced with gorgeous photos.
[BBC] In her latest book, The Quickening, the Pulitzer Prize finalist embarked on an epic odyssey to one of the most important – and least-explored – places in the world.

In 2019, 57 scientists and crew embarked on a 54-day journey to the farthest reaches of Antarctica. Their mission: Thwaites Glacier, a rapidly crumbling block of ice the size of Britain melting so fast it's known as the world's "doomsday glacier".

What kind of global effects would it have if sea levels were to rise 10ft or more?
Well, the speed with which it happens makes a tremendous difference. So, 10ft over two centuries is really different than 10ft over 40 years. The concern is really what do human beings do about it?

I'm a huge proponent of managed retreat, which is having a government entity intervene in low-lying areas and essentially purchase flood-prone homes for pre-flooding value, giving the folks who live there the opportunity to take that money and move up and in with it.

New York City has already done some managed retreat on Staten Island. The state intervened and they purchased and demolished over 500 homes on Staten Island. Eighty percent of those residents were able to take the money that they were given for their home and move elsewhere on Staten Island.
I’d wondered what happened to them after that dreadful storm. But were the people able to buy replacement houses, or was it just enough to allow them to rent a little apartment somewhere considerably less pleasant?
We sometimes think that managed retreat is like fracturing communities, and that's not necessarily how it plays out.

So, sea level rise is not catastrophic if we prepare for it – and that's a big if.
It’s also not catastrophic if there isn’t a significant rise, but that’s a different question.
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Posted by:Skidmark

#8  The Thwaites ice shelf is on the water. Whether it melts or not has no bearing on ocean levels. The glacier part is on land, and what they worry about is the accelerated glacier flow into the ocean if the ice shelf gives way, combined with the effects of putative overall warming on the glacier.

Of course an ice surge into the ocean might create another clogging ice shelf. On these time scales I don't think continental rebound would play a significant role. There are probably other factors I didn't think of.
Posted by: James   2024-08-24 11:42  

#7  The first person to see Antarctica saw it, like, 200 years ago, and in this very short window of time, we've told a very narrow story about Antarctica – one that has a lot to do with human conquest and human beings overcoming incredible odds to do the unthinkable. Often those human beings are white men from the global north. All the stories about Antarctica sort of sound the same. I wanted to create a story about Antarctica that was much more democratic. E. Rush

Posted by: The Walking Unvaxed   2024-08-24 11:23  

#6  Put as much ice into a glass as you can, then top it with water. Let it sit and melt. Will it overflow?
Posted by: Procopius2k   2024-08-24 06:21  

#5  OBTW: Given, roughly 2/3 to 3/4's of an iceberg is underwater and water expands by about 10% when frozen.

Doing some math:

* Using the 2/3's below, and 1/3 above the water level estimates.

7.48 Gallons to a cubic ft. Which expands 10% to about
1.10 Cubic ft when FROZEN. So when thawed, it returns to
1 cubic ft of displacement.

So wouldn't the 2/3's below the water thawing compensate for the 1/3 about the waterline, which also displacing more area frozen that when it would if melted?

Posted by: NN2N1   2024-08-24 05:51  

#4  We have been constantly warned for over 50+ years ago the earth would die.

A few notables missed predictions:
2009: Climate Genius Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014.

2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015

1988: World’s Leading Climate Expert Predicts Lower Manhattan Underwater by 2018

2005: Manhattan Underwater by 2015

Also, another good site for tracking the Climate Doomsayers for $$$$$ lies.

Realclimatescience.com
Posted by: NN2N1   2024-08-24 04:57  

#3  Take a look at pictures of the liberty Island (where the Status Of Liberty is located) starting in 1886 and annually at high tide through this year.

Notice how the se level is rising, oh wait, it isn't!

Sea levels has essentially remained the same for 137 years.

'Climate change' is pure bunkus!

Posted by: Seeking Cure For Ignorance   2024-08-24 04:52  

#2  ^ You missed a lovely story.
Posted by: Skidmark   2024-08-24 03:57  

#1  She doesn't meet her doom?

Man do I feel cheated out of clicking that link
Posted by: DarthVader   2024-08-24 01:03  

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