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Supreme Court makes shock ruling on homeless crisis
2024-06-29
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news] The Supreme Court decided on Friday that cities can enforce bans on homeless people sleeping outdoors, even in West Coast areas where shelter space is lacking.
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The case is the most significant to come before the high court in decades on the issue and comes as a rising number of people in the US are without a permanent place to live.

In a 6-3 decision along ideological lines, the high court reversed a ruling by a San Francisco-based appeals court that found outdoor sleeping bans amount to cruel and unusual punishment.

The majority found that the 8th Amendment prohibition does not extend to bans on outdoor sleeping bans.

'Homelessness is complex. Its causes are many. So may be the public policy responses required to address it,' Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote for the majority.

'A handful of federal judges cannot begin to ‘match’ the collective wisdom the American people possess in deciding "how best to handle" a pressing social question like homelessness.'

He suggested that people who have no choice but to sleep outdoors could raise that as a 'necessity defense,' if they are ticketed or otherwise punished for violating a camping ban.

A bipartisan group of leaders had argued the ruling against the bans made it harder to manage outdoor encampments encroaching on sidewalks and other public spaces in nine Western states. That includes California, which is home to one-third of the country’s homeless population.

'Cities across the West report that the 9th Circuit’s involuntary test has crated intolerable uncertainty for them,' Gorsuch wrote.

Homeless advocates, on the other hand, said that allowing cities to punish people who need a place to sleep would criminalize homelessness and ultimately make the crisis worse. Cities had been allowed to regulate encampments but couldn’t bar people from sleeping outdoors.

'Sleep is a biological necessity, not a crime,' Justice Sonia Sotomayor said, reading from the bench a dissent joined by her liberal colleagues.

'Punishing people for their status is ‘cruel and unusual’ under the Eighth Amendment,' she wrote in the dissent. 'It is quite possible, indeed likely, that these and similar ordinances will face more days in court.'

The case came from the rural Oregon town of Grants Pass, which appealed a ruling striking down local ordinances that fined people $295 for sleeping outside after tents began crowding public parks.

The US 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, which has jurisdiction over the nine Western states, has held since 2018 that such bans violate the Eighth Amendment in areas where there aren’t enough shelter beds.

Friday’s ruling comes after homelessness in the United States grew a dramatic 12 percent last year to its highest reported level, as soaring rents and a decline in coronavirus pandemic assistance combined to put housing out of reach for more people.

More than 650,000 people are estimated to be homeless, the most since the country began using a yearly point-in-time survey in 2007. Nearly half of them sleep outside. Older adults, LGBTQ+ people and people of color are disproportionately affected, advocates said. In Oregon, a lack of mental health and addiction resources has also helped fuel the crisis.
Posted by:Skidmark

#10  Living in a major city I have not seen very many mentally ill homeless people. But I have seen a lot alcoholic and drug using homeless people.
Posted by: Whavick Scourge of the Apes9857   2024-06-29 22:30  

#9  i have come to the conclusion that the two genders have unique roles. A female preserves the species and a male defends the female. how not-woke am i?
Posted by: irish rage boy   2024-06-29 19:31  

#8  Most men need a mission. Looking after and providing for a Wife and family are a mission. Women are much the same. I blame Intelligent design.

Posted by: Besoeker   2024-06-29 11:43  

#7  Some of These are untreated mentally ill.

Psychologist explains the symptom of depression that's unique to men

Filling sandbags doesn't stop the flooding. It merely diverts the flood.
Posted by: Skidmark   2024-06-29 11:33  

#6  Doesn't say a municipality has to clear out public usage spaces, just that if they don't its local governments' choice to let them.

No fig leaf for you.

Maybe even call it something snazzy, like Sanctuary City, or Right to Shelter, Foyer sans Frontiers. That should attract and maintain voters.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2024-06-29 10:29  

#5  #1, #3 - He's actually not wrong about that for a large segment of the homeless population, Skid.

'Deinstitutionalization' forced a lot of moderate to serious mentally ill folks back out on the streets and continues to do so today. It's like mainstreaming mentally disabled kids into normal K-12 classrooms where the instruction then focuses on the lowest level of comprehension and ignores any actual learning.

Interesting, but long, read about this from the Kaiser Commission here (pdf).
Posted by: Mullah Richard   2024-06-29 08:02  

#4  Someone getting the feeling in the judicial community that they've f*uped for decades trying to play social engineer rather than adhering to and sticking with the 'law'? Those vagrancy laws evolved for a reason. Maybe its time to quit sacrificing good members of the community to murdering insane people who indeed need to be removed from general society.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2024-06-29 06:46  

#3  Need a room, VB?
Posted by: Skidmark   2024-06-29 05:02  

#2  
The Dept. of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) estimates there are over 653,104 homeless Americans, in its 2024 report.

DC Swamp 2023-2024 Federal budget donated $195+ Billion of your taxpayer $$$$$ to various countries and Ukraine.

What about the $451 Billion used annually on the 14.5+/- Million Illegals here now?

Then, what about the estimated 35,574 homeless US Veterans?

Why is it the DC Swamp will take care of everyone else, accept our own?

What if there was a US Constitutional Amendment requiring America First?
Posted by: NN2N1   2024-06-29 04:00  

#1  Easy: take on the ACLU and open up the state hospitals again. These are untreated mentally ill. Involuntary commitment until they can get the treatment they need. The cruel and unusual punishment is letting them suffer untreated and as prey for drug dealers.
Posted by: Vortigern Borgia1150   2024-06-29 02:09  

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