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Surprise! The Cause of Climate Change Is... Mars?
2024-03-15
[HotAir] This might come as a bit of a disappointment to the devotees of the Climate Goddess. Some astronomists and researchers have been doing what those sorts of eggheads typically do, studying variations in planetary orbits in our solar system. They recently published their results in respected science journals and some of their conclusions are quite remarkable. It turns out that the orbits of the Earth and Mars interact in a predictable cycle as the planets make their way endlessly around the sun. And those interactions produce measurable effects on our planet. Among those are cyclical changes in the shape of our orbit and they seem to coincide with historical periods where global temperatures have exhibited fluctuations. (Daily Caller)

...There's a lot of technical jargon in the reports that the layman could easily become lost in, but it's definitely worth a look for those interested in this type of research. The long and the short of it is that the two planets "tug" on each other gravitationally when they pass by. This happens in both directions, depending upon where we are in our orbits during the closest point of approach. As a result, the Earth is sometimes a bit closer to the sun on average and further away at other times.
It’s the things they didn’t know to put in their models that cause problems. As they say, all models lie, but some useful. So it’s helpful to approach SCIENCE!! with humility.
Posted by:Grom the Reflective

#10  Never once did those idiots mention space weather which is significant.

nutbags
Posted by: newc   2024-03-15 23:19  

#9   give it 5 years before the Warming cultists begin screaming about the coming ice age, while demanding the same fixes.

They call for sacrifices...I agree.

We should sacrifice the cultists to appease the Snow Demons. It's the only safe choice.
Posted by: Silentbrick   2024-03-15 20:09  

#8  It’s the things they didn’t know to put in their models that cause problems. As they say, all models lie, but some useful. So it’s helpful to approach SCIENCE!! with humility.

Speaking of humility... There's science, and then there's scientists.

"Odious to the Lord and to mortals is pride, and for both oppression is a crime."

Posted by: Pholugum Trotsky4754   2024-03-15 16:34  

#7  ..CO2.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2024-03-15 16:01  

#6  They know the orbital parameters, they can run them forward.

This is the test of any model: do the predictions match real-world observations? If they don't, your model sucks donkey balls, scientifically speak.

When it comes to climate models, *all* of them run hot compared to the real world. Amusingly, the least wrong model is a Russian one that totally ignores CO2.
Posted by: SteveS   2024-03-15 15:02  

#5  OK, fine. Then, what’s on the menu for the next fifty years? They know the orbital parameters, they can run them forward.
Posted by: KBK   2024-03-15 14:06  

#4  There's an 11,000 year cycle. There's a 45,000 year cycle. You can bet there are more both shorter and longer.

As they can't be mitigated by taxing and spending they are not germane to the discussion.
Posted by: M. Murcek    2024-03-15 09:33  

#3  Ban SUVs on Mars!!!

Oh and I have 18 inches of global warming on my driveway now. Thanks Mars.
Posted by: DarthVader   2024-03-15 08:52  

#2  It turns out that the orbits of the Earth and Mars interact in a predictable cycle as the planets make their way endlessly around the sun. And those interactions produce measurable effects on our planet.

By extension, isn't that the premise of Astrology?
Posted by: Skidmark   2024-03-15 08:50  

#1  Weakening El Niño Likely To Become La Niña By Summer, NOAA Says
Posted by: Skidmark   2024-03-15 07:27  

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