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About the losses of Wagner.
2023-05-25
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.

Text taken from the V Kontakte page of Igor Strelkov (Igor Girkin).

These catastrophic, calamitous numbers are the inevitable result of making men fight in an environment where every man has a machine gun, and artillery shells arrive every five minutes.

This is an environment of spinning knives.

More about what I have already noted in the "telegram".

Prigozhin publicly acknowledged the losses of PMC "Wagner" in 20,000 PEOPLE ONLY KILLED. (10,000 - "ZeKa" and 10,000 - personnel fighters of "Wagner").

According to some of the data I have, the losses of the Wagner, even for a six-month operation that ended with the assault on Bakhmut, are more (at least one and a half times), but I have never voiced this figure anywhere and did not intend to, while the Veselchak U himself (he is also called "Garcon") did not talk about it (from his indescribably great mind).
Veselchak U and Garcon are names for Wagner head Evgeny Prigozhin.
However, I am quite ready to proceed from the figures that Evgeny Viktorovich announced. Let's take a look at them in more detail. So H.V.P. says that Wagner received 50,000 "special contingents" from places of deprivation of liberty. Of these, 10,000 were killed. Fine. Let's admit. But earlier, the same little man said that 26,000 "zeks" received an amnesty and returned "to the national economy." We subtract 10,000 and 26,000 from 50,000 ... And where are the other 14,000???

Well, some of them, for example, are listed as "missing" ... (which is tantamount to death for 99%). But the majority, most likely, seriously wounded and crippled, are lying around in hospitals. Most of them will never return to service. Part - after recovery - will be able to carry out only auxiliary or rear service.

Thus. Of the 50,000 ZEKs, practically every second one fell into the "irretrievable losses".

Just based on the realities of the current war (the main losses - up to 98% - from artillery fire) - for two killed, there are about three seriously wounded, of which one will return to duty in a few months (if he has the desire and motivation to also does not always happen), one more - within a year and a half, and the third will remain a cripple for life and will be unfit for service at all.

Thus - at the very minimum - "Wagner" suffered irretrievable losses on the way from Popasnaya to the western outskirts of Bakhmut - 40,000 people.

To this we must add the losses of the units and subunits of the RF Armed Forces dowry to "Wagner" - both personnel and various volunteers (and from the former Corps of the People's Militia of the LDNR). They are big too, no doubt about it.

Estimates of the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the battles for Soledar-Bakhmut fluctuate in the region of 45,000-50,000 people killed. Perhaps the figure is somewhat exaggerated.

However, in general, the irretrievable losses of the Russian Defense Ministry and all military formations in killed and wounded - in the battle for Soledar-Bakhmut, amount to about 50,000 people. Which is approximately equal to the losses of the APU.

So the question is - "who was grinding whom"?

"Tales" by Yevgeny Viktorovich, who lost 40,000 people killed and wounded and lost another 26,000 people - simply "who left for the civilian ZeKa" (not counting the constant mass departure at the end of contracts and "personnel Wagners" who do not like "meat attacks" very much ) that "Wagner" is not bloodless - they are for "suckers" (in its category of values). If he is still combat-ready, then why does such a "successfully" operation not continue? Why are the "musicians" not chasing the enemy behind Chasov Yar - to Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, but hastily going to the rear to reorganize?

We consider: 35,000 fighters at the beginning of the operation. Add 50,000 "Zeka" = 85,000. We minus 40,000 killed and wounded (at a minimum I take) and 26,000 dismissed at the end of the six-month "penal battalion" = 6,000. 85,000 - 66,000 = 19,000.

Even if we assume that Wagner actually receives "10,000 a month" (he's lying, it used to be like this - before the "meat assaults", now there are "no fools" or, in any case, much less than it was - "the best in hell "far from all volunteers want to become) - and still they still need to be trained, put together, etc., but this takes time.

Disrespectful Evgeny Viktorovich constantly accuses (very often - quite rightly) the RF Ministry of Defense of various kinds of fraud, fraud and lies. But he himself is lying like a gray gelding (or rather, like an urka at a trial). And he accuses the military commanders of exactly what he HAD DONE.

If I had sympathized (God forbid!) Evgeny Viktorovich, I would strongly advise "Garson" something like: "Keep your mouth shut - you'll pass for a smart one!" But this does not threaten him - he is "carried" ... So he will still please us with a lot of top-secret data, voicing which - saves us (and me, in particular) "grinding our teeth" to keep silent about our wild losses with very insignificant results ...

P.S. If only there was some cretin already in the RF Ministry of Defense to voice our wild (and absolutely inconclusive) losses in continuous and useless battles near Avdiivka ...

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