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REVEALED: Corrupt file and system REBOOT caused all US flights to be grounded for first time since 9/11: NOTAM system and backup were both infected with corrupt file - as pilots slam 'ridiculous' decision to ground planes
2023-01-12
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news]
  • The FAA blamed the ground stop on the failure of its digital NOTAM system

  • A source familiar with the operation said a corrupted file was found in both the system and its backup

  • Officials then decided to reboot the entire system, the source told CNN

  • But pilots say it was 'ridiculous' to ground all US flights
Posted by:Skidmark

#23  C:###
Posted by: Rex Mundi   2023-01-12 19:16  

#22  It's the forced upgrade on reboot that really gets you.
Posted by: KBK   2023-01-12 18:18  

#21  On such a critical system, that should not happen.

And how do you think designers ensure that does not happen? Take for instance when an alpha particle or cosmic ray flips a bit or several. A bit(s) that you really need to know the value. Does your cloud detect it? Isolate it? Continue operation with the non-corrupted parts?
Posted by: Waldemar the Limber5043   2023-01-12 14:32  

#20  Ever heard of Tandem? They were pioneers on mission critical business systems. They ran, for instance, the back end of 24 hour ATM machines. Triple redundancy w/ cycle by cycle error checking and majority voting. Similar for aircraft, except many have quadruple redundancy. Try putting that "on the cloud".
Posted by: Waldemar the Limber5043   2023-01-12 14:22  

#19  All the big cloud providers work on mass redundancy. No backups at all.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2023-01-12 13:59  

#18  ^ On such a critical system, that should not happen. Two copies? I'm splitting a gut here...
Posted by: M. Murcek   2023-01-12 13:58  

#17  After how many years in operation a critical file "suddenly" (there's that word again) gets corrupted?

It happens more than you think. Ever try to read a file on disk and it is corrupt? 24/7 mission critical computer systems need triple redundant systems. Like, you know, the FAA requires on aircraft.
Posted by: Waldemar the Limber5043   2023-01-12 13:52  

#16  WTF he doing in Portugal, another Monkeypox Rave?
Posted by: swksvolFF   2023-01-12 13:51  

#15  And now we learn Oh Canada! had same issue on same day. Brilliant!
Posted by: Rex Mundi   2023-01-12 13:47  

#14  According to the FAA diversity is as important as safety. Diversity makes us more safe. They are also investigating for patriarchy, got to eliminate any hint of it.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2023-01-12 13:44  

#13  You can't make rich gheys behave like proles. In or out of bed...
Posted by: M. Murcek   2023-01-12 13:14  

#12  Republican files bill to make Pete Buttigieg fly commercial until the FAA shutdown and Southwest debacle are fixed: GOP piles on criticism in latest scandal after Portugal vacation during strike talks and the supply chain chaos last year
Posted by: Skidmark   2023-01-12 13:00  

#11  "You are having to open Device Mangler..."
Posted by: M. Murcek   2023-01-12 12:52  

#10  Thousands face a SECOND day of airport chaos as hundreds more flights are delayed and dozens are canceled in hangover from failure of 'antiquated' FAA system - as it's revealed the corrupted file that caused the glitch ALSO took out the backup system
Posted by: Skidmark   2023-01-12 12:48  

#9  They called tech services but it was an Indian guy with an indecipherable accent.
Posted by: Super Hose   2023-01-12 12:40  

#8  The Pilots' Plot... was not. No coup for you!
Posted by: Betty the Younger9310   2023-01-12 12:00  

#7  "It looks like you are trying to operate airports. Would you like help?"

Yeah, Mercek's posit was disturbing in its plausibility.

Scrap metal traders from Iran is weird, especially considering the report the other week about Iran repurposing Turking commercial flyers.

DOT hiring practices and putting unqualified employees into mission critical positions is up there.

Of course, there is the ever present And.

Suspicions about a simple ooopsie and/or break seem low.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2023-01-12 10:43  

#6  "Unexpectedly" is another typically used word too, Mercutio.
Posted by: Mullah Richard   2023-01-12 08:18  

#5  After how many years in operation a critical file "suddenly" (there's that word again) gets corrupted?
Posted by: Mercutio   2023-01-12 07:43  

#4  /\ You will be told what station link to contact for further instructions.
Posted by: Besoeker   2023-01-12 07:37  

#3  
Still think there is something deeper at play given other Airline Travel events seen in the last few weeks.

Posted by: NN2N1   2023-01-12 05:55  

#2  This ... Government........
Posted by: newc   2023-01-12 00:27  

#1  Ref #9: Merc...you have a link supporting ?
Just curious. Thanks.
Posted by Besoeker 2023-01-11 10:18|| 2023-01-11 10:18|

MERC wins the pool!
Posted by: Skidmark   2023-01-12 00:03  

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