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On the return of Stalingrad
2022-11-23
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.
[ColonelCassad] Briefly about the return of Stalingrad.

In recent weeks, the topic of renaming Volgograd back to Stalingrad has revived again.

The topic is not new, but now it has received a new relevance. Regarding the historical aspects, everything is clear - nothing greater than the events of 1942-1943 is unlikely to ever happen to the city, therefore it is imprinted in history under this name, and not as Volgograd or Tsaritsyn, this is just an objective fact.

With the outbreak of the war with NATO, the request to appeal to the Stalinist experience of mobilization and patriotism was updated, since if you delve into the relatively recent past, no one except Stalin is suitable for the role of a symbol of mobilization and patriotism.

Well, it’s not worthless to move Nicholas II or the idol of liberals Stolypin. So, even before the war, Comrade Stalin was very popular and relevant, and now his golden days are coming at all, since now even other liberals have begun to demand the restoration of order by Stalin's methods and the Gulag for the enemies of the people.
"The time has come when I began to understand Comrade Stalin..."

Well, in such circumstances, the topic of the return of Stalingrad is again updated. In fact, the city is nine days a year for the holidays and so becomes Stalingrad, that is, formally, a certain return has already occurred, but so far only for the holidays. Now they are offering it permanently, they say, why be embarrassed. Indeed, what?

In my opinion, the issue should be decided at a city referendum, where the residents themselves should speak out on this issue - in the end, they should live in this city. In order not to spend too much money on this issue, attach the vote on Stalingrad to the next elections of local deputies in order to save on organization.

Those who wish can even shove Tsaritsyn into the poll for greater pluralism. By the way, the most famous event associated with Tsaritsyn is the defense of Tsaritsyn during the Civil War. The defense of Tsaritsyn was led by Comrade Stalin, which actually led to the fact that the city was later called Stalingrad.

Personally, my position has not changed over the past decades - the name Stalingrad should be returned to the city. In any case, it is more than just Stalin. Stalingrad is a symbol of the resilience and heroism of the entire Soviet people, for which millions of people fought and died, including my grandfather. And it is precisely such symbols that are required now, during the next great turning point.

After this, communism will not start in our country, Putin will not get a party card, and United Russia will not turn into the CPSU (B) - if anyone fears or hopes for this. But in any case, we will close a certain gestalt and demonstrate that we stop being shy and afraid of our past, including the Stalinist past, as those with whom we are now at war have been trying to instill in us for decades.

Posted by:badanov

#8  And when night arrives one of these scorching,howling, bleeding nights the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell, the hardest stones cannot bear it long. Only men endure. -Lt Weiner 24th Panzer Division
Posted by: NCMike   2022-11-23 21:42  

#7  "everybody loved Uncle Joe!"

/Or they were killed. Dead. And their family as well. He was loved by those who weren't killed.
Posted by: Frank G   2022-11-23 20:46  

#6  With utmost respect for the relatively innocent victims of all totalitarianisms...

We'll swap out her falsies for smalls,
Then bolt on some bolshie brass balls
And a bushy mustache
To accomplish our fascist
Transition: The Fatherland Calls!

Posted by: Zorba Slosh3174   2022-11-23 20:10  

#5  If you're a college student who has to write a term paper for a history class, there is no more fascinating character than Joe Stalin. But the whole time you're researching and writing that paper, you thank your lucky stars you weren't living in the USSR while he was running the show.

Some might argue that, given the way Russians are/were especially after the Bolshevik Revolution, Stalin was the only man who could successfully mobilize resistance to the Nazi invasion. They might even argue that the terror he imposed on Russians was necessary to instill obedience to the state. Of course, it is doubtful that either Nicholas II or Alexander Kerensky could have won that war.

Some Russians, even when they were sitting in boxcars bound for the gulags, revered Joe Stalin as some kind of a god. "If only Joe Stalin knew about this...", they would say. But Joe knew.

I think the sad fact is, if you're caught between Joe Stalin and Adolph Hitler, you're in for a very hard time.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2022-11-23 14:16  

#4  I hear the Von Paulus Travel Agency is eager to do business.
Posted by: Rex Mundi   2022-11-23 10:12  

#3   Russians pine for Stalin, a Georgian, to lead them again. I mean, he only had more millions than Hitler murdered, big deal and almost 100% of his victims were ethnic Russians.

Why wouldn't Russians want him back? He represents strength with ISIS mentality and that's what Russia is.
Posted by: Omineling Forkbeard1962   2022-11-23 09:58  

#2  There are some here who seem to pine for the old Soviet days for whatever reasons...
Posted by: Frank G   2022-11-23 08:53  

#1  "The time has come when I began to understand Comrade Stalin..."

...The Comrade Stalin whose purges gutted the Red Army of some of its finest officers prewar, insuring they weren't ready when the crisis came?

The Comrade Stalin who consistently ignored solid evidence that Hitler was about to invade?

The Comrade Stalin who got his country into a war with Finland and got his ass handed to him?

The Comrade Stalin who, upon being notified of the German invasion, withdrew for almost three days before addressing his people?

That Comrade Stalin?

Oh, hell yes. Bring him back.

Mike
Posted by: MikeKozlowski   2022-11-23 08:09  

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