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Ukrainian missiles attacked Poland
2022-11-16
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited

Commentary by Russian military blogger Andrey Chervonets

Warsaw hastened to report that two Russian missiles hit Polish territory.

Two Poles were killed, a tractor was slightly damaged almost from a direct hit.

If it were "Caliber" and even more so "Iskander", there would be no wet place left from the tractor and the cart! And here even the glass in the cockpit is not broken.

A little later, irresponsible citizens inaccurately posted footage with rocket debris. Judging by them, this is the S-300, which could not have flown in from Russian territory, the laws of physics do not allow it.

Perhaps the Ukrainian air defense system worked inaccurately, perhaps Kyiv carried out a provocation in an attempt to involve Poland and others. Or create a reason to understand about Russia during the G20 summit in Bali, maybe there they won’t figure it out ten thousand kilometers away and condemn Moscow.

Another question is whether they did it on purpose or by accident.

Now the Poles have a good reason to send troops to Western Ukraine and take control of the city of Lvov.

Interestingly, Article 5 of NATO against 404 will be applied or not?

Curious what kind of wreckage will be shown to us in the morning? Ukraine, a lover of performances, may well roll a cart of shrapnel to the Poles from Russian missiles to escalate the situation.

No strikes were made against targets near the Ukrainian-Polish state border by Russian means of destruction.

The fragments published in hot pursuit by the Polish media from the scene in the village of Przewoduv have nothing to do with Russian weapons.

In the meantime, the origin of the rocket fragments that fell in the Lublin region cannot be established, - said the correspondent of the Lublin112 edition, located at the scene.

If it were debris from a Russian missile, they would have installed it right away.

Posted by:badanov

#15  But it was an accident.

Does not matter - An attack against a NATO country for whatever reason deserves a swift and sure response!

pssst...it was Ukraine.

Nevermind.

(for what it's worth, even noon radio hype man stated Ukraine weapon)
Posted by: swksvolFF   2022-11-16 14:48  

#14  Wow, that was a close call. If that narrative would have stuck... Dangerous game.

Accidental Russian Missile lands in Poland - it's an attack, Russia is trying to kill Poles.

Accident Ukrainian Missile lands in Poland - opps, we almost started WW3, sorry guys.



Posted by: mossomo   2022-11-16 12:51  

#13  The Archduke Ferdinand is on life support.
Posted by: Matt   2022-11-16 12:08  

#12  
Posted by: DarthVader   2022-11-16 11:29  

#11  American company Texas Instruments, whose electronics were found in Russian missiles, is still helping Russia bombard Ukraine. VIDEO&PHOTOS Source: https://censor.net/en/p3375010

"The first casualty of war is truth."
~ Fifth century B.C., Greek dramatist Aeschylus
Posted by: Besoeker   2022-11-16 10:03  

#10  If those were Ukrainian SAMs, what was their target?

Not a 777-200 or a IL-20.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2022-11-16 09:56  

#9  Of course it was an accident.

The quality of the accident differs:

If a missile fired by Russia into Lviv ends up in Poland, it's an accident, but a reckless one.

If Ukraine shoots down (or misses) an incoming Russian missile close to the Polish border and debris ends up in Poland, it's simply a regrettable accident, but an accident that was provoked by reckless Russian action.
Posted by: European Conservative   2022-11-16 09:53  

#8   are they going to expend a couple blowing up a grain dryer in Poland knowing that will trigger NATO's Article 5? I'm betting no.

I'm in agreement. Even if the missile was Russian, it would have been an accident. While the propaganda tools shreak that they are at war with NATO to deflect from Russia's failings, the last thing Putie-pie wants is a real shooting war with NATO. Ukraine using a spattering of NATO weapons has stopped and pushed the Russians back. Full NATO ground action will destroy the military in Ukraine.
Posted by: DarthVader   2022-11-16 09:23  

#7  "This business is going to get out of control. It'll get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it."

- Adm. Josh Painter
Posted by: M. Murcek   2022-11-16 09:11  

#6  The presidents of Poland and the US have said there is no evidence that the S-300 missiles were launched by Russian. Given the size of the attack (some 100 missiles) I am guessing NATO had air assets, AWACS or satellite, watching the show. I further suspect they have radar tracks of everything that went on near Poland.

EC's question is a good one. The attack was carried out against power grid infrastructure by long-range aviation. This means the missiles could have been coming from any direction except the West. If the air-defense was launched off-axis to the incoming and missed, they could have come down anywhere.

A cui bono question that comes to mind is: If the Russians are short on missiles, are they going to expend a couple blowing up a grain dryer in Poland knowing that will trigger NATO's Article 5? I'm betting no.
Posted by: SteveS   2022-11-16 09:07  

#5  Missile Lands in Przewodow, Poland-Suchomimus

Geolocation and debris analysis.
Posted by: DarthVader   2022-11-16 08:35  

#4  where must this target have come from?

Russia has fired missiles from south central Belarus before, but the geometry looks wrong for anything to be traveling near the border with Przewodów, unless they were fired from a southwest area (military base at Ivanava, Belarus?) towards Lviv and the Ukr air defenses were firing NNW from there. Przewodów border area is almost directly north of Lviv.
Posted by: Mullah Richard   2022-11-16 08:07  

#3  NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg: The fact that the missile exploded in Poland results almost directly from Russia's attack on Ukraine, and the more we will support and strengthen Ukraine in its natural right to self-defense. Russia must finally stop this war
Posted by: DarthVader   2022-11-16 08:04  

#2  Might have been a Belorussian use
Of Russian equipment
Posted by: Lord garth   2022-11-16 07:55  

#1  My question from yesterday stands. If those were Ukrainian SAMs, what was their target? And if they are shooting north from Lviv, where must this target have come from?
Posted by: European Conservative   2022-11-16 06:28  

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