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Why Are Russians Using Old Ammunition?
2022-11-09
[Youtube Video] During this entire war, Russian tanks have only been found with very old ammunition, that is, the APFSDS ammunition.

The latest projectile, and the most common one, we have seen them using is the 3BM42 Mango, developed in the mid to late 80s. But we have also seen other projectiles, like the 3BM26 from the early 80s, used by the Russians.
Posted by:DarthVader

#11  "...Russia was saving their core, more modern, army for a confrontation with NATO..."

That reminds me of Red Storm Rising, they saved equipment for invasion of Iran or some damn place with oil, but then the Soviet invasion went bad and they had to use up those reserves.

Personally I don't think you hold back when you have the chance to crush quickly.
Posted by: ruprecht   2022-11-09 15:13  

#10  How It Started:

#12 Russians are crushing Ukraine now, everywhere. South, north and west. Almost over. Looks like we got punked again by our garbage media with their lies about the heroic Ukrainian resistance
Posted by Sheba Sforza1694 2022-03-19 21:40||   2022-03-19 21:40|| Front Page Top

How It's Going:

"For God's sake stop sending the Hohols those damned rockets!"
Posted by: Glumble the Prolific1699   2022-11-09 15:00  

#9  Japan might begin wondering "where is Kuril's army"?
Posted by: Shamp Snurt3261   2022-11-09 14:44  

#8  What do they have left besides the Moblisks we've seen be thrown into the fight with little to no training?
Posted by: DarthVader 2022-11-09 13:55


They might have a few line units left on the Chinese border, but I don't think Vlad trusts the PRC that much.

Mike
Posted by: MikeKozlowski   2022-11-09 14:37  

#7  Lots of talk that Russia was saving their core, more modern, army for a confrontation with NATO

Mostly by Russian mouthpieces. Russia has most of their top line combat forces in Ukraine. The First Guard Tank Army, the unit that protected Moscow and was designed to punch through NATO lines was mauled at Izium and then Lyman.

The 11th Army Corps in Kaliningrad was designated as "elite" and was supposed to attack Poland and Lithuania to close the Suwalki gap if war broke out. It was moved to Ukraine and was promptly annihilated.

155th Guards Naval Infantry Brigade just got mauled as well in the south near Pavlivka.

Their air assault units were destroyed outside Kiev.

Their airborne units have been mauled in Khersan.

What do they have left besides the Moblisks we've seen be thrown into the fight with little to no training?
Posted by: DarthVader   2022-11-09 13:55  

#6  They have FIFO discipline
Posted by: Super Hose   2022-11-09 13:08  

#5  Lot's of talk about Russia using an aux force + LPR and DPR Militias/National Guard in their Special Military Operation that seized 20-30% of UKR... Lots of talk that Russia was saving their core, more modern, army for a confrontation with NATO, if that were to come to be. Which would explain RUS using old ammo.
Posted by: mossomo   2022-11-09 12:59  

#4  Because it works? Because they had lots of it already?

That was the hypothesis of the video. Ukraine had mostly upgraded T-64s and it worked fine against them. With all the Russian stuff captured, Russia may not want their newer stuff designed against NATO tanks to be captured and sent to the west for analysis. Makes sense.
Posted by: DarthVader   2022-11-09 11:11  

#3  "Handle that shell carefully, Misha. Your grandfather made it, and he was drunk as a skunk when he did."
Posted by: Matt   2022-11-09 11:11  

#2  Because it works? Because they had lots of it already?
Posted by: magpie   2022-11-09 11:08  

#1  Probably the ammo that the 'refurb' tanks were carrying at the time of their initial storage.
Posted by: Mullah Richard   2022-11-09 10:38  

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