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White House says it wants Atlanta Braves name change… on same day Biden hosts team
2022-09-27
As a child in the late 60s and early 70s I looked forward to the Braves games and visiting Chief Noc a Homa in his teepee in left field and the smell of fire water
[NYPost] White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre encouraged the Atlanta Braves to have a "conversation" about picking a new name Monday — hours after President Biden hosted the team to celebrate their 2021 World Series championship.
Maybe, the Washington Braves?
Jennifer Jacobs of Bloomberg News asked Jean-Pierre at her regular briefing for Biden’s position on the Braves’ nickname as well as the controversial "tomahawk chop" cheer.

"We believe that it’s important to have this conversation, you know, and Native American and indigenous voices, they should be at the center of this conversation," Jean-Pierre responded.

"That is something that the president believes, that is something this administration believes, and he has consistently emphasized that all people deserve to be treated with dignity and respect," she added.

"You hear that often from this president. The same is true here. And we should listen to Native American and indigenous people who are the most impacted by this."

Biden himself had no qualms about saying the team’s name during a celebration in the White House East Room — and noted that its use dates back more than a century, when the Boston Rustlers became the Boston Braves in 1912.

My grandfather was an All-American football player at Santa Clara, and he was a newspaper guy up in Scranton, Pa. His name was Ambrose Finnegan. And when it was the Boston Braves, he didn’t like it. But at any rate, that’s another story," Biden joked.

Biden also paid tribute to the late Hank Aaron, who played for the franchise in Milwaukee and Atlanta for 21 seasons.

Aaron "shattered a lot of records, but he shattered them in racism as well, with dignity and with class," the president said.

"It was a rough start [last year], plagued by injuries. The All-Star break, not one day of a winning record. Given a 0.4 percent chance of winning on CNN. No, I’m only joking," Biden went on.

"At any rate — but the franchise never quit. It never gave in. You rebuilt the whole outfield practically overnight. Play by play, inning by inning, you grinded and you ground it out, and you did it together."

Biden even worked in a joke about his own narrow victory in Georgia in the 2020 election.

"People counted you out. Heck, I know something about being counted out. And I know in Georgia, you show up when it counts," he said.

Sports teams across the country have faced pressure to change their names in deference to Native American activists who say it’s offensive to use their culture for commercial branding.

The Washington Redskins gave into a long-running pressure campaign in July 2020 to change the football team’s name, which some advocates said historically was used as a racial slur. The team is now known as the Commanders.

The Cleveland Indians baseball team dropped their name last year and became the Guardians.

There is ambiguity on whether American Indians want the Braves to rename themselves, however.

Major League Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred said last year that American Indians support the Braves name.

"The Braves have done a phenomenal job with the Native American community," Manfred said. "The Native American community in that region is wholly supportive of the Braves program, including the chop. And for me that’s kind of the end of the story. In that market, taking into account the Native American community, it works."

Richard Sneed, principal chief of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, based in western North Carolina, defended the Braves name in 2020.

"To me, the Washington Redskins name was probably the only team name that I could look at and say that’s derogatory, that’s a racial slur," the chief said. "But all the rest — they’re an affirmation of the honor and strength and courage and the warrior spirit of native people."

Other groups oppose the Braves name. The National Council of American Indians and the Muscogee Nation, based in Oklahoma but historically from the American Southeast, want the team to rename itself.

Related:
Atlanta Braves: 2021-09-22 Trump knocks Dolan scion's Senate bid over change to Cleveland Indians name
Atlanta Braves: 2021-04-07 'Even worse': MLB strikes out with proposed All-Star Game relocation
Atlanta Braves: 2020-06-24 Spike Lee blasts Redskins' name
Posted by:Beavis

#18  How about the "Buckhead Braves"?
Posted by: Matt   2022-09-27 15:14  

#17  Maybe that should be "faig football..."
Posted by: M. Murcek   2022-09-27 13:26  

#16  NFL Pro Bowl now to be flag football.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2022-09-27 13:25  

#15  Undercover Brother
Posted by: ruprecht   2022-09-27 13:24  

#14  Is Brave offensive? I could see the case for Redskins but Brave? I don't think that was every used as a sneer. Just cultural appropriation I guess.

The league should have had all the teams change their names during the Covid season when nobody was paying attention.
Posted by: ruprecht   2022-09-27 13:21  

#13  ^That runner placed on 2nd in extra innings is blasphemy. I get it in Little League, other teams are scheduled to play but to do this in the bigs
Posted by: Beavis   2022-09-27 12:48  

#12  @#5
Thanks, Mike.

Yeah, I do seem to remember now that for dropping Chief Wahoo, MLB awarded Cleveland the All-star Game, but I surely did not hear that they were threatened with sanctions if they did not "comply".

But what pains me about baseball nowadays are all of the rule changes. TV money, surely, but I dislike baseball more because of the rule changes then I do the PC team name changes.
Posted by: DooDahMan   2022-09-27 12:44  

#11  I remember sandlot football, baseball, basketball hoops in driveways, kickball in the streets. Kid stuff I suppose but active instead of passively watching TV. These days I just take walks.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2022-09-27 12:37  

#10  All the pro sportsball leagues are totally committed to the woke crap. If you buy their product, you are paying into gender change surgery for kids, CRT in schools and so on.

There are other ways to occupy yourself in ylur leisure time.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2022-09-27 11:53  

#9  Don't care what MLB does anymore.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2022-09-27 11:25  

#8  The Cleveland Indians baseball team dropped their name last year and became the Guardians.

MLB also incorporated a bunch of Soft Ball rules; sure there is no overarching connection.

Biden even worked in a joke about his own narrow victory in Georgia in the 2020 election.

"People counted you out. Heck, I know something about being counted out. And I know in Georgia, you show up when it counts," he said.


har har har har! Must be one of those new rules, "If we are behind by 3 going into the top of the 10th, we get to add 5 runs and you don't get to bat." I've got jokes too: 81 million.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2022-09-27 10:39  

#7  The name Oklahoma is based on Native American (Choctaw) words "okla humma" which translates as "red people."

Let's go Brandon!
Posted by: Procopius2k   2022-09-27 08:16  

#6  

$%^& Biden and the LSD's.
Posted by: NN2N1   2022-09-27 07:00  

#5   DooDahMan,

FWIW, the version I've heard is that the league made it clear a few years before that the name change was going to happen - Cleveland is one of the smallest MLB markets, and as such relies on the League to schedule good games and bennies like the All-Star Game...which the league used like a hammer to get the team to commit to a renaming.

I do know the team fought it literally to the 13th hour, because the change to Guardians was, shall we say, less than smooth and almost at the last minute. The league was fully prepared to sanction the team and make an example out of them...unlike Atlanta, which makes enough money to be able to tell the league to do rude things to themselves.

Mike
Posted by: MikeKozlowski   2022-09-27 06:42  

#4  People actually listen to that senile wanker of a president?

If they got to Redskins' owner Snider, said to be a real a-hole, then they can get to anyone.

I've also heard 90% of Indians polled did not find the name Redskins offensive.

In Cleveland, there were usually a handful of protesters at every opening day to protest the name. A handful. You had a feeling once the mascot, Chief Wahoo, was excommunicated, the name was next.

And get this: it's been said that the brother of the Indians owner has political aspirations in Ohio; ergo, name change.

Posted by: DooDahMan   2022-09-27 04:13  

#3  Atlanta Braves Submissives.

It really isn't about Native Americans.
Posted by: Besoeker   2022-09-27 03:20  

#2  Atlanta Savages? Could work for the team and city.
Posted by: Snash Shairt9621   2022-09-27 01:13  

#1  Biden will aim for the KC Chiefs next! Stop the woke madness!
Posted by: borgboy   2022-09-27 00:47  

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