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Turkish media announced a change in position of Russia on the meeting between Putin and Zelensky
2022-08-19
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.

Commentary by Russian military blogger Andrey Chervonets

Moscow has allegedly softened its stance on possible talks between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky, Turkish television channel CNN Turk reported.

According to the channel's sources, if earlier the Russian side insisted on compiling a roadmap for Ukraine before the summit, now it allowed the possibility of discussing the roadmap directly at the meeting of the presidents of Russia and Ukraine. The sources added that the leaders of the two countries can discuss and define a roadmap, after which the delegations can proceed with its implementation.

This will be perceived by a significant part of Russian society as a betrayal and it is unlikely that they do not understand this. Such negotiations with the Ukrainians, when they become persecuted, are no longer needed by Russia, especially since the West will immediately talk about the victory over it and demand to give up the levers of control. The stuffing of the Turkish media is understandable, to understand the reaction of the Russian society, or it can rock it.

As for the meeting itself, in principle, NOTHING can be accepted there. Evidence of this was the meeting in Paris at the end of 2019 between Putin, Macron, Merkel and Zelensky, when the leaders came out with an agreed statement (at least this followed from similar statements by the leaders of Russia, France, Germany), but Zelensky immediately began to grunt and make faces, with all his appearance that this is not so.

Any promises and agreements Ukraine also never fulfills and never fulfilled. This is evidenced by the Minsk agreements and the Steinmeier formula, which Kyiv did not comply with "interpreting" the agreements completely contrary to what was written in black and white and signed.
In 2016, Steinmeier proposed that elections be held in the separatist-held territories of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, which are de facto controlled by Russian-backed separatists
And if the Ukrainians promise something, they will never fulfill it. Checked.

Proof? End of March and Medina. When Russia withdrew its troops from three regions, and Ukraine violated its coloir agreements with Russia. Putin wants to step on the same rake again? So it will click on his forehead then.

It’s not worth talking about the decency of other people, especially the decency of Svidomo Ukrainians, who have never answered for a single word, judge by themselves. And Vladimir Vladimirovich I do not advise this at all.

Posted by:badanov

#3  ..cause now Sweden and Finland are going to. Self fulfilling prophecy.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2022-08-19 16:20  

#2  No, no! NATO expanding into Ukraine was NOT a provocation. Certainly not!
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2022-08-19 12:38  

#1   These Russians are amazing. They invaded Ukraine entirely unprovoked, are committing unbelievable war crimes by the minute, they refuse to give Ukraine agency like the British did the Americans during our era struggling with them and at the same time blames Ukraine for the war.

Because they don't want to be like Russians are and no one else on earth does either.
If the readers here are so blind they cannot see you are a paid influence agent passing around Putin's ridiculous pr, they are like the ancient Jerusalem leadership when Jesus was here, they don't know what they are doing.
Posted by: Omineling Forkbeard1962   2022-08-19 10:08  

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