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US intel officials admit they didn't see that Russia's military was a 'hollow force.' Here's what they did see and how they missed it.
2022-06-21
[Business Insider] More than 100 days after Russia renewed its attack on Ukraine, and the world has seen that the Russian military isn't what it was believed to be.

The Russian force the US military and intelligence agencies believed to be a near-peer adversary hasn't shown up. The force that did appear had its main thrust blunted by smaller Ukrainian units. After taking heavy casualties and achieving few objects, Moscow pulled back its troops and lowered its ambitions.

Something was off in US assessments of Russia's military, and the Pentagon and intelligence community have admitted that they missed indications that Moscow was in fact fielding a "hollow force."

The US intelligence community is conducting an internal review of its processes after underestimating Ukrainian resolve and overestimating Russian military capabilities.

The faulty assessment in Ukraine comes after the Pentagon's extremely poor assessment of the Afghan military, which US leaders thought would be able to hold off the Taliban for months after the US withdrawal.

During a Senate Armed Services committee hearing in May, lawmakers questioned Avril Haines, the director of national intelligence, and Lt. Gen. Scott Berrier, the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, about their agencies' assumptions in Ukraine, focusing on assessments that Kyiv would fall in three to four days and that the war would last only two weeks.

"We assessed their capacity to face the size of the Russian forces that were amassed on their border was going to be very difficult for them," Berrier said of the Ukrainians.
Posted by:Besoeker

#14  But remember that Hitler found out the hard way how badly mistaken he was about Russia in December 1941 outside Moscow.

*Yawn*

If it weren't for lend-lease, Stalin would have made peace with Hitler in exchange for who knows how much territory.
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2022-06-21 16:36  

#13  https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/navy-lgbt-video-pronouns-military
Posted by: Skidmark   2022-06-21 14:11  

#12  It's no surprise if our vaunted "intelligence" community is mistaken about Russia. It wouldn't be the first time. But remember that Hitler found out the hard way how badly mistaken he was about Russia in December 1941 outside Moscow. Even if he looks weak and pathetic, Putin might have reserves that Biden and Zelensky will learn about the hard way.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2022-06-21 13:33  

#11  Actually, a few swabbies taking time off from critical pronoun indoctrination training pulled off a pretty cool multi-domain SINKEX recently.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2022-06-21 13:15  

#10  ^^^^
I actually laughed my ass off seeing this. My God, what a joke!

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/navy-lgbt-video-pronouns-military
Posted by: NoMoreBS   2022-06-21 13:13  

#9  sadly, our military isn't in as good shape as it should be

and, like the Russian military, our problems are self inflicted
Posted by: Lord Garth   2022-06-21 11:14  

#8  Lt. Gen. Scott Berrier, the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, about their agencies' assumptions in Ukraine, focusing on assessments that Kyiv would fall in three to four days and that the war would last only two weeks.

Remember this when the 'boys' keep citing 'experts' in their postings.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2022-06-21 10:51  

#7  ...too early in the day to get the talking points out.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2022-06-21 10:47  

#6  Where's all the trolls?
Posted by: Skidmark   2022-06-21 10:45  

#5  ^ Then, the Bath House junta wanted to divert military spending to "other priorities." Now they just spend from the Magic Monetary Theory Treeâ„¢. No need to set priorities.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2022-06-21 10:23  

#4  I seem to remember during the Obama administration officials saying Russia is a regional power with nucs. What changed?
Why were they correct then and not now?
Posted by: Ebbuger Whuque4103   2022-06-21 10:13  

#3  You don't enhance your budget by saying the problems you are charged with monitoring / addressing are "meh..."
Posted by: M. Murcek   2022-06-21 09:51  

#2  Too busy being woke.
Posted by: Chris   2022-06-21 09:47  

#1  Too busy with the Trump-RU probe.
Posted by: Besoeker   2022-06-21 09:23  

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