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Fighting for Severodonetsk is already underway in the industrial area |
2022-06-21 |
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited. [Vesti] The Ukrainian side controls only the territory of the Azot plant Fights with Russian troops for Severodonetsk are already underway in the industrial zone. This was stated in the Telegram of the head of the Lugansk regional military administration, Sergei Gaidai. According to him, today the extremely difficult situation remains along the entire front line in the Lugansk region. “We state that the orcs are starting a large-scale offensive in our region, they have accumulated a sufficient number of reserves, and today all the free settlements of the region are on fire. In Severodonetsk, fighting continues already in the industrial zone, Ukrainian troops control only the territory of the Azot plant ,” said Gaidai. The head of the region specified that the enemy is advancing along the Lisichansk-Bakhmut highway, and the settlements close to it are under constant shelling. Lisichansk itself is under fire almost around the clock, the number of victims cannot be established. "Ukrainian defenders are not surrounded, moreover, they inflict significant losses on the enemy. Hospitals and morgues in the occupied territories are overflowing with rashists ," Gaidai added. |
Posted by:badanov |
#16 Col. Doug MacGregor's interview today with Andrew Napolitano. Truly astonishing how foolish the whole US-UK establishment are. Listen to the whole thing. |
Posted by: Palmerston 2022-06-21 23:16 |
#15 "earnt"? I do apologise. Both my parents learnt British English as an Nth language before coming to America as adults, (4th language for my mother, 8th or 9th for Daddy) and I grew up exposed to both versions as well as other languages. The old hands here are used to it, both the American ones and those in and of other lands. I thought this was a place for native English speakers. For English speakers, yes. But clearly being a native English speaker — of any English dialect — is not required. How could it be? And why would we want to — look how our discussions are enlivened by commentary clearly based abroad. |
Posted by: trailing wife 2022-06-21 22:59 |
#14 "earnt"? I thought this was a place for native English speakers. What the hell is "earnt"? |
Posted by: Sonny Shinegum6770 2022-06-21 22:23 |
#13 /\ Difficult to analyze remotely via Open Source (OS) reporting. Somewhere, someone is monitoring a 'Common Operating Picture (COP) of the battlespace. It's a tactical chess game. Commanders must continually (24x7) monitor events and movements in order to anticipate enemy intent and development Course of Action (COA) to defeat that intent. Actions on the ground generally take place entirely to fast for Open Source reporting to track and report events which might enable the exploitation of tactical opportunities. OS certainly has a role, but other real-time intelligence collection and monitoring "All Source" platforms (SIGINT, HUMINT, IMAGERY, etc) must be utilized to achieve success. "All Source" (as opposed to single source) reporting enables the fusion and validation of intelligence data which provides for an accurate COP. |
Posted by: Besoeker 2022-06-21 18:52 |
#12 Zhang Fei has earnt a reputation here at Rantburg as a calm, fact-based thinker with areas of deep knowledge, Mr, Palmerston. I don’t always agree with him, but I always take his non-snark seriously. ZF, with regard to Colonel Reisner — about whom I have no opinion — it seems to me that getting information only from open sources is not objectionable when deeper insight and understanding are applied, as we try to do here at [OSINT aggregator] Rantburg. That the gentleman’s track record of predictions is less than stellar does, however, merit future skepticism, along with all the other reports coming out of or about that part of the world. Fog of war and smog of propaganda both wreathe thick in the air there. I only hope a year or two after the final documents are signed the air will clear enough to see what actually happened. |
Posted by: trailing wife 2022-06-21 18:18 |
#11 ^ and spent on troll farms, apparently, cheap ones. |
Posted by: Frank G 2022-06-21 14:21 |
#10 Where's the evidence that modern Russia has the industrial capacity of WWI Germany? I can't find any stats that would allow a comparison of modern Russia to WWI Germany, but relatively recent stats put Russia's manufacturing output at below Mexico and slightly ahead of Indonesia and Brazil. We tend to think of WW2 and the mighty Russian army sending hordes of T-34's and T-85's against the invading Germans. Those Russians are gone, and so is that manufacturing capacity. Where did it go? Look at the yachts and villas of the oligarchs and siloviki. |
Posted by: Matt 2022-06-21 13:12 |
#9 What do they mean by "already underway"? This battle has been going on for weeks now. |
Posted by: Abu Uluque 2022-06-21 11:55 |
#8 So many lies. The Ukrainians sent to Luhansk are just civilians in uniforms. They're cannon fodder, they know it and they're refusing to fight. "We are soldiers of the 8th battalion of the 10th brigade, based near the city of Seversk. We appeal to you, Mr. President, Mr. Zaluzhny, and to the Ukrainian people [...] We demand the immediate rotation of our remaining troops; physically and mentally there are no more forces" |
Posted by: Cramp Grumble6086 2022-06-21 11:28 |
#7 Where's the evidence that modern Russia has the industrial capacity of WWI Germany? |
Posted by: Rob Crawford 2022-06-21 07:52 |
#6 I think there's this perception that the Austrians are neutral, that they're this cuddly teddy-bearish country. In reality, it's a nest of unrepentant Nazis. Real Nazis, not the LARPers who defended Mariupol alongside Ukrainian Jews from the Russian forces besieging it, on orders from a Jewish President, many of whose closest advisers are also Jewish. Kurt Waldheim wasn't a Nazi Party member, but he was on scene with the relevant Wehrmacht units when Greeks and Serbs were massacred in large numbers. Austria elected him president anyway. Jorg Haider became a bigwig in Austrian politics Haider was frequently criticized for statements in praise of Nazi policies, or considered antisemitic.[43] International reports on Haider often referred to his remark that the Nazi government had produced a "proper employment policy" as compared to the SPÖ government. He was forced to resign as governor of the Carinthia province in 1991 because of the incident. Haider years later apologized.[15] On one occasion during a parliamentary debate, Haider described World War II concentration camps as "punishment camps".[15]As far as they're concerned, Ukrainians might as well be lice. If the Maybe it's just residual Austrian longing for its most famous hometown hero - Adolf Hitler. It's reliving Germany's military exploits through Russia. There's an amusing anecdote about how Austrians and Germans are each always trying to claim Beethoven for themselves while foisting Hitler on the other. In Austria's case, the latter might just be for show. |
Posted by: Zhang Fei 2022-06-21 01:42 |
#5 This Austrian guy is just Douglas MacGregor without the military experience. A Redditor comments:That might come as a shock maybe, but what I've gleaned from his previous videos is that, first, aside from social media, he doesn't have any additional intelligence sources. Yes, that dude is, just like all of us, working with the stuff OSINT aggregators are putting together. |
Posted by: Zhang Fei 2022-06-21 01:09 |
#4 Here's a guy who actually knows what he's talking about -- as opposed to the blowhard blogger above: Colonel Markus Reisner of Austria. His latest: Heavy Weapons To Ukraine Col. Reisner is sympathetic to the Ukrainians but he doesn't lie or bullshit. He makes clear that the proposed weapons deliveries -- which he describes clearly in precise detail -- will not make a difference in the Donbas. This is for multiple reasons: 1) the Russians destroy many of them before they can even be used 2) the Russians capture many of them 3) the Ukrainians lack training in how to use them and their few experienced operators are suffering extremely high casualty rates 4) the quantities are far too small to make a difference even if the Ukrainians were properly trained on them |
Posted by: Palmerston 2022-06-21 00:52 |
#3 Source for German artillery round usage in WWI. |
Posted by: Zhang Fei 2022-06-21 00:34 |
#2 The small arms analogy would be if 1 side had muzzle loading muskets and the other side had M-16's. Given that roughly 2/3 of friendly casualties in WWII were inflicted by enemy mortars and howitzers, it's clear why the 10-1 Russian superiority needs to be whittled down by Western supplies if the Ukrainians are to merely hold, never mind advance.Artillery and mortar fire together accounted for 65 percent of the total casualties in the European and Mediterranean theaters |
Posted by: Zhang Fei 2022-06-21 00:13 |
#1 Re the 10 to 1 Russian advantage in artillery:Russia is firing as many as 50,000 artillery rounds a day into Ukrainian positions, and the Ukrainians can only hit back with around 5,000 to 6,000 rounds a day, he said. The United States has committed to deliver 220,000 rounds of ammunition — enough to match Russian firepower for around four days.50,000 rounds a day might sound like a lot, but it was well within Germany's industrial capacity a century ago. During WWI, it fired 222m rounds over 4 years, or ~150K rounds a day. |
Posted by: Zhang Fei 2022-06-21 00:05 |