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Government Corruption
Pentagon seeks to scrap 24 problematic Littoral ships in 2023
2022-03-29
[Libertarian Institute] The Pentagon’s 2023 budget proposal calls for retiring 24 ships to make way for more expensive vessels. All nine of the Navy’s Freedom-class Littoral Combat Ships (LCS) would be among those scrapped.

The LCS program has been plagued with issues. The most serious are failures in the population system. Last year, a major defect was found in the transmission, causing new ship deliveries to be halted. The frequent issues have led to the nickname "little crappy ships."

Many of the Freedom-class crafts to be cut are the newest in the American fleet, with five ships commissioned in the past four years. Rear Adm. John Gumbleton, the Navy’s budget chief, said the decision to scrap the vessel was a money-saving move.

"A piece of that was our choice going after decommissioning vessels that were very expensive to maintain," he said. The 24 ships would generate savings of "$3.6 billion across the budget that I can reinvest."

The Pentagon was planning to buy six additional Freedom-class LCSs. It is unclear if the projects will be terminated. Five cruisers, four landing dock ships, two submarines, two oilers, and two expeditionary transfer docks will also be retired.

The Navy is looking to add more nuclear-powered ships like Ford-class aircraft carriers and Columbia-class submarines. The new DoD budget would bring the total number of ships down from 298 to 280.

However, Congress may reject the Pentagon’s suggestion to remove the ships from service. For example, the DoD’s past efforts to eliminate the A-10 program were removed from the budget during the legislative process.

Even if the ships are cut, American taxpayers will not see savings. The White House plans a $30 billion increase in war spending in 2023.
Posted by:Besoeker

#10  As I recall there was one, one defense contracting firm that manufactured deliverable M1 Abrahams tanks. If you close the line, like they did with the A-10, the institutional knowledge of the precise tooling, skilled workers and knowledge of procedures for assemble are lost. Reassembly isn't easy, cheap or fast, so there is a national value in keeping mininmal capability online.
Posted by: NoMoreBS   2022-03-29 17:19  

#9  
#8 The Pentagon was planning to buy six additional Freedom-class LCSs. It is unclear if the projects will be terminated.
Wait - so they are going to buy six more very expensive ships and then immediately retire them?
There you have it folks! Modern Procurement in action.
Posted by: CrazyFool 2022-03-29 13:59


...Since the 60s, every major defense contract has had a clause that essentially makes it cheaper to keep buying the contracted product rather than cancel the program. Whatever it costs to pick up completed new ships at the yard and tow them into mothballs, it'll cost a couple of orders of magnitude more to cancel the program where it sits.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2022-03-29 16:03  

#8  The Pentagon was planning to buy six additional Freedom-class LCSs. It is unclear if the projects will be terminated.
Wait - so they are going to buy six more very expensive ships and then immediately retire them?
There you have it folks! Modern Procurement in action.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2022-03-29 13:59  

#7  Naval equivalent to the Sgt. York system.
Posted by: DarthVader   2022-03-29 13:41  

#6  They are the naval equivalent to the Aztek.
Posted by: Super Hose   2022-03-29 13:03  

#5  ...There's some talk about taking the new-build ones that have the glitches fixed/alleviated and making them dedicated anti-sub ships - they're surprisingly well suited for the job, (especially the new-build Independences) but the bad name the project has earned may doom that idea.

And BTW, the USCG runs from the idea of getting them like the Devil from Holy Water.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2022-03-29 12:08  

#4  They actually might fit the Coast Guard counterdug mission as airborne platforms for a more robust littoral surveillance and response task force farther off-shore than current land based systems. Such a task force could be formed with the new 110's and give them the aviation and drone coverage area breadth/reaction speed they sorely lack. Just spit-balling but they are new 4-spot flight decks.
Posted by: NoMoreBS   2022-03-29 11:47  

#3  These ships were built and are being replaced almost entirely in order to maintain some domestic shipbuilding capability. (Oh, and to distribute cash to friends.) It never mattered if they were problematic.
Posted by: Glenmore   2022-03-29 10:57  

#2  Exactly how does one in any government position get fired?
Posted by: Chris   2022-03-29 10:41  

#1  well, once they fix the population system, they can get around to the propulsion system. Nice reporting.
Posted by: Frank G   2022-03-29 10:27  

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