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Madeleine Albright, 1st female secretary of state, Tango Uniform at 84
2022-03-24
[ABC] Madeleine Albright, the first woman to serve as U.S. secretary of state, died Wednesday from cancer at age 84, according to her family.

Albright was nominated for secretary of state by President Bill Clinton and served in the role from 1997 to 2001. She was the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations from 1993 to 1997.

"As the world redefined itself in the wake of the Cold War, we were partners and friends working to welcome newly liberated democracies into NATO and confront the horrors of genocide in the Balkans," President Joe Biden said in a statement. "When I think of Madeleine, I will always remember her fervent faith that 'America is the indispensable nation.'"

President Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in a statement called Albright "one of the finest Secretaries of State, an outstanding UN Ambassador, a brilliant professor, and an extraordinary human being."

"As a child in war-torn Europe, Madeleine and her family were twice forced to flee their home," the Clintons said. "When the end of the Cold War ushered in a new era of global interdependence, she became America's voice at the UN, then took the helm at the State Department, where she was a passionate force for freedom, democracy, and human rights."


Posted by:Besoeker

#37  My understanding is that there were numerous Chem Artillery rounds, and other chemical materials found (Which constitutes a part of the validity of the WMD claim). Additionally, there were substantial comms intercepts between various military figures and Saddam et al talking about the weapons and the progress in making and acquiring non-nuke WMD weapons. Our belief in the WMD program was in substantial part based on these intercepts. Post war analysis suggests they were lying, at least in part, to cover for the graft and corrupt diversion of funding for their own uses/wealth. Less about lies by our side and more about poorly confirmed intelligence in my opinion.
Posted by: NoMoreBS   2022-03-24 19:10  

#36  That said, as soon as our guys bagged Saddam, we should have left the rest of those people to their own devices. Either that or install an American general as governor of the place and sit on it for a couple centuries until all the oil is gone. Nation building is for the birds.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2022-03-24 18:56  

#35  2) That Saddam sought to assassinate Bush the Elder.

Tin pot, third world dictators need to know they can't get away with taking a shot at POTUS.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2022-03-24 18:53  

#34  And of course all around the same time as that revolution in Ukraine...and here we have many of the (surviving) actors involved today.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2022-03-24 17:31  

#33  Well in Duke Nuke'em they would have been in a sinister looking building at the end of a labyrinth, so unpossible.

...wait a second...
confirms

Yes, it was not too long after that ISIS raid when there was that 'chemical attack' in Syria a lot of people were suspicious about, the one when all the usual suspects wanted war with Russia and Kerry flubbed his scene making the case for war, 'if they remove all chemical weapons..' and Team Assad was like Deal! 5 seconds later and what wind in the warship's sail dissipated.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2022-03-24 17:27  

#32  ...they seem to forget.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2022-03-24 16:18  

#31  Obama's withdraw from Iraq was a bit of a cluster in itself.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2022-03-24 16:03  

#30  Yes, have to agree with you on two of them. I've never been to Libya. Can't speak to that one, but have talked to those who did.
Posted by: Besoeker   2022-03-24 15:37  

#29  The 2nd Iraq War was a disaster
Half the reason most of the world will not side with us against Russia is that US credibility was shattered by a series of disastrous US interventions in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya
Posted by: Galactic Coordinator Gleretle7435   2022-03-24 15:33  

#28  Ref #26: We have Donald Rumsfeld and George W. Bush, on tape, admitting that there were no WMD in Iraq. What more do you need!!!

This topic comes up here with some frequency OP. Yes, what the leadership said at the time was that.... "there was no WMD in Iraq." What they didn't say...

* Always take note of what isn't said.

...They DIDN'T say that there had never been any, or they had destroyed it all. Also not said by the leadership at that time, "existing WMD had been moved elsewhere".... by whomever. Many people in the WMD and non-proliferation community figured the Russians (hate to blame them for everything), back wen they had trucks with good rubber, moved the stuff to Syria. In fact I believe there was some imagery at the time that identified a convoy or two.

As you may remember, the US goal at the time was regime change. That goal was accomplished. Any WMD slipping away to neighboring countries was probably not viewed as an administration positive outcome.

The WMD 'slipping away to neighboring countries' could also indicate a coordinated removal effort. Perhaps something that the administration did not wish to discuss. Again, just perhaps.

Bottom line, Saddam had WMD and would have very much liked to have had a nuke. As you may recall, Saddam was in an ongoing conflict with Iran. Both Iraq and Iran were lusting after nukes. Iran obviously still is.

I hope this helps the understanding.

Posted by: Besoeker   2022-03-24 15:24  

#27  Again, how much evidence do you need? Evil elites acting under our name perpetrated great crimes. Is it so hard to publicly reject them?

I always have argued that Bush II had the authority to liberate Iraq on the bases of two causes:

1) That Saddam had repeatedly violated the no fly zone by firing and attempting to fire on our pilots.

2) That Saddam sought to assassinate Bush the Elder.

IMO, the WMD search was a sideshow, and an unnecessary one at that.
Posted by: badanov   2022-03-24 14:16  

#26  #17, #18

Jesus Christ. We have Donald Rumsfeld and George W. Bush, on tape, admitting that there were no WMD in Iraq. What more do you need!!!

I never realized that people in 2022 still believed the WMD lie. They came out and confessed they lied over a decade ago! Incredible. How do you maintain your belief in the face of such direct first-hand evidence?

And to get back on topic about Madeline Albright's psychopathy about killing 500,000 children - more than died at Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Dresden combined - Halliday the U.N. humanitarian coordinator of the Oil-for-Food program during the 1990’s sanctions resigned and called them “genocide”.

Again, how much evidence do you need? Evil elites acting under our name perpetrated great crimes. Is it so hard to publicly reject them?
Posted by: Omomolet Phutch9064   2022-03-24 13:54  

#25  Biden is fucking up the world
Fucking up the Middle East and Africa anyway. And causing another 10 or 20 million starving migrants to flood into and fuck up Europe. Danke, Joe

Get ready for ‘hell,’ UN food chief warns amid Ukraine shockwaves
World Food Programme flags famine risk in Africa and the Middle East as Ukraine war hits supplies.
Posted by: Thick Wholurong3826   2022-03-24 13:50  

#24  Biden is fucking up the world
Posted by: Hupoter Hatfield9085   2022-03-24 13:37  

#23  W fucked up Iraq
Hilary and Victoria Nuland fucked up Libya
Nuland fucked up Ukraine
Posted by: Fat Bob Lumumba8410   2022-03-24 12:13  

#22   Neocons fucked up Iraq, Libya, Syria

Who knew Obama and Hillary were Neocons.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2022-03-24 12:10  

#21  fucked up Iraq, Libya, Syria

Say we didn't improve the existing situations and leave it at that...
Posted by: M. Murcek   2022-03-24 11:39  

#20  Neocons fucked up Iraq, Libya, Syria and now they're trying to drag us into a war with Russia because "Putin is evil." Fuck them and their war tourists
Posted by: Thusotle Snamble3929   2022-03-24 11:28  

#19  The only thing chemical and biological weapons destroy is lives. The left hated the idea of the neutron bomb for exactly that reason. For them to split hairs semantically about what NBC weapons can do and why that very specific genie needs kept tightly stoppere4d in the bottle is utterly illuminating.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2022-03-24 11:03  

#18  No nuclear weapon technology were found. The terminology of what WMD meant was changed to remove chemical and biological so the left could bash on W Bush as a liar. Admissions by anyone after the fact are accepting of the new terminology or part of the rehabilitation of W Bush in order to attack Trump and shouldn't be taken seriously.
Posted by: ruprecht   2022-03-24 10:59  

#17  "claiming that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction sites round Baghdad and Tikrit" Anyone with half a brain would note the very specific geography of this admission.
Posted by: ruprecht   2022-03-24 10:58  

#16  #14 For neo-runts neocons like Albright and Nudelman, denial is a way of life FIFY
Add David Frum and that hysterical chienne Anne Applebaum
Posted by: Vespasian Omereque5237   2022-03-24 09:55  

#15  Those remote desert labs with massive centrifuges were tomato blight research facilities. The animal cages were utilized for staff pets.

Rihab Rashida Taha aka "Doctor Germ." Why will no one believe me ?
Posted by: Besoeker   2022-03-24 09:30  

#14  Jesus the level of denial is astounding. Even the deep state admitted there were no WMD.
For neo-runts like Albright and Nudelman, denial is a way of life
Posted by: Butch Ebbaitle1522   2022-03-24 09:20  

#13  ^ See: Flat Earth Society.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2022-03-24 09:19  

#12  #7 Jesus the level of denial is astounding. Even the deep state admitted there were no WMD.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/feb/08/donald-rumsfeld-book-misstatements-wmd

> The former US defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, admits in his memoirs that he made a mistake in claiming that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction sites round Baghdad and Tikrit, one of the main justifications for launching the Iraq invasion.

> Rumsfeld says now: "I made a misstatement." What he meant to say is there were 'suspect sites'.

Here they are making a full confession on video:



I just don't know how people don't change their views in the face of overwhelming, direct evidence like this. I just don't.
Posted by: Omomolet Phutch9064   2022-03-24 09:11  

#11  Re: #2 - CF's comment. When you reveal your current foreign policy stances by choice of brooch du jour, you're not a serious person
Posted by: Frank G   2022-03-24 09:02  

#10  She at least had the good taste to have herself embalmed / mummified decades ahead of her recent demise.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2022-03-24 08:51  

#9  Not to worry. Vicky Nudelman's picked up the torch.
Posted by: Deadeye Jamble9632   2022-03-24 08:37  

#8  ...I knew several folks who had occasion to be in the same place as her in the performance of their duties, and to a man their opinion was the same: she was a thoroughly unpleasant, entitled snob.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2022-03-24 08:32  

#7   Remember when Madeline Albright lied about Saddam having WMD?

Remember when Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons against the Kurds? The photos and chemical analyses were trumpeted all over the world — you can’t have missed it. Remember when vast bunkers containing endless barrels of insecticide — the poor man’s nerve gas — were found in Iraq?

/Fish. Barrel. Some assembly required.
Posted by: trailing wife   2022-03-24 08:30  

#6  /\ Exactly correct. UN and Foggy Bottom shop gossip better slept through. Keep it simple, ignore the global clutter and concentrate on the pot roast back home.
Posted by: Besoeker   2022-03-24 05:19  

#5  ^ I would worry more about America than the world. The world is taking care of itself.
Posted by: Cthulhu of Ryleh   2022-03-24 02:13  

#4  ^ killed by our sanctions. Which didn't change Saddam's calculations at all. How many people around the world will starve because of Biden's pointless sanctions?
Posted by: Herb Clunk7744   2022-03-24 01:53  

#3  Remember when Madeline Albright lied about Saddam having WMD? And then called for an invasion? This was all the way back in 1998.

The Reuters headline calls her a “feminist icon”. The media are in bed with people like this.

Here's Madeline Albright confessing to causing the deaths of 500,000 children on television. Like all evil psychopaths, she wasn't ashamed of it.



Everyone must understand the monstrous crimes that people like this committed in our name. We must loudly and publicly reject them and make it clear actions like killing half a million children are not in our interest.
Posted by: Omomolet Phutch9064   2022-03-24 01:13  

#2  I hear North Korea gets Madam Halfbright's broach.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2022-03-24 00:13  

#1  The only way that hag could be Tango Uniform is if she were hog-tied and hung upside down by her ankles
Posted by: Slavish Speaking for Boskone2763   2022-03-24 00:08  

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