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| Surber: It looks like retired Colonel Douglas Macgregor was right | |
| 2022-03-16 | |
It looks like retired Colonel Douglas Macgregor was right a week ago when he told a disbelieving Stuart Varney that Russia would take Ukraine.
His argument was that Zelensky should cut a deal, agree to keep Ukraine neutral in the NATO-Russia standoff and give up some of the Russian-dominated eastern Ukraine. Macgregor did not see Zelensky as a hero. Macgregor said, "A neutral Ukraine would be good for us as well as for Russia. It would create the buffer that, frankly, both sides want. But he’s, I think, being told to hang on and try to drag this out, which is tragic for the people that have to live through this." Liz Cheney showed she was the daughter of a man the left called a chickenhawk by denouncing the colonel. She tweeted, "Douglas Macgregor, nominated by Trump as ambassador to Germany; appointed by Trump as senior advisor to the Secretary of Defense, says Russian forces have been 'too gentle' and 'I don’t see anything heroic' about Zelensky. "This is the Putin wing of the GOP." I guess I was in the Gaddafi wing when I opposed Hillary bombing Libya so she could prove her manhood. She valiantly said on TV 5,000 miles away, "We came. We saw. He's dead." A few days later, so was her ambassador and three good soldiers because of her refusal to send troops to protect them from those seeking vengeance on the USA. Libya posed no threat to us. Gaddafi gave up his nuclear ambitions. Heck, he was Hugh Hefner living on Viagra, cocaine and young women. Putin's push into Ukraine was just as wrong. But please, don't put me in the Zelensky wing because his demand to be added to NATO was stupid and put his country at risk. It is all a mess as wars usually are. No one is a hero. Read the rest at the link Related: Douglas Macgregor: 2020-11-12 Acting defense secretary reportedly hires adviser who called for total withdrawal from Afghanistan 'as soon as possible' Douglas Macgregor: 2020-09-11 Russia Russia Russia: Nat’l sec’ty adviser Robert O’Brien denies ordering intel report altered Douglas Macgregor: 2020-08-29 Yevgeny Vindman, brother of impeachment witness, files whistleblower complaint Related: Stuart Varney: 2020-05-23 Republican Sen. Tim Scott has lots to say about Biden’s ‘you ain’t black’ comment, but Atlantic writer Jemele Hill sez he’s right, while Biden apologises Stuart Varney: 2018-08-03 Drowning In Debt: These States Are Approaching A Point Of No Return Stuart Varney: 2018-03-15 Nancy Pelosi smacked down for calling ICE agents 'cowardly' | |
| Posted by:badanov |
| #19 Sure. My boss quotes Eichmann all the time. My colleagues are more into Goebbels tho |
| Posted by: Fester tse Tung2884 2022-03-16 20:27 |
| #18 I cite Sun Tzu does that make me Chinese? /rhet question |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2022-03-16 20:19 |
| #17 Here's a Ukrainian Nazi news presenter on Ukraina-24 TV, broadcast internationally, with its own YouTube channel (English subtitles); "I will allow myself to quote Adolf Eichmann who said that in order to destroy a nation, you must destroy, first of all, children... I adhere to the doctrine of Adolf Eichman..." |
| Posted by: Deadeye Glinegum6771 2022-03-16 19:10 |
| #16 You can call folks Nazi's but if they don't round people up into death camps and invade their neighbors they are just another brand of fascists. If a fascist nation attacked another fascist nation I'd favor the invaded while counseling the US stay out of it. |
| Posted by: ruprecht 2022-03-16 18:14 |
| #15 Is there someone we can talk to about getting a better grade of "influencer"? Biggest invasion since WW11 so got to keep it tiktok real - Dead Snow: Zombie Nazis, or Nazi Zombies? |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2022-03-16 16:39 |
| #14 who think their white idols in Russia he was talking about anti-Russian neo-Nazis in Lithuania and Ukraine and other parts of E Europe |
| Posted by: Bob Lumplump4321 2022-03-16 16:32 |
| #13 There are plenty of reasons to dislike Ukraine, as there are plenty to dislike Russia and America — often enough the exact same reasons. *cough* Hunter Biden *cough* If those are your reasons — great, have at it. But don’t throw around trigger words and expect me to be triggered. My family was hunted by, and fought against, the real Nazis. The people you’re complaining about? Immature cosplayers who think their white idols in Russia are da bomb. They couldn’t conquer a country, let alone half the world — all they’re good for is acting like the brainless yobs they are. Ditto for the ones in Germany, by the way, and the couple thousand of them here in America. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2022-03-16 16:19 |
| #12 A bunch of posers. Dress up and say the magic words and "va la" they're Nazis, not. Just a bunch of thugs. The National Socialists Workers Party was just that, a political movement upon which gravitated their own version of thugs. There is no real political movement here other than hierarchical and tribal behavior. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2022-03-16 15:59 |
| #11 ^Daytraders who have lost their 'shorts'. |
| Posted by: Skidmark 2022-03-16 15:03 |
| #10 ^ My, what a compelling series of statements! Is there someone we can talk to about getting a better grade of "influencer"? All the noise and static is bothersome. |
| Posted by: SteveS 2022-03-16 14:27 |
| #9 "Screaming"? You mean, like screaming "Kos! Antifa! Neener!" How about Dovid Katz from Vilnius, the Jewish scholar who has devoted his life to exposing lies and coverups about Nazis in Lithuania? Is Dovid Katz also Antifa? Getting it wrong on Ukraine Western media have failed to understand the crucial role of nationalistic xenophobia and anti-Semitism And the US Congress is also Antifa? More than 50 US Congressmen condemn Ukrainian legislation that “glorifies Nazi collaborators” Ukraine’s luck of flying beneath the radar has finally run out,” Dovid Katz, founder of the Defending History website about Holocaust distortion in Eastern Europe, wrote on Twitter about the letter. “Never imagined we’d see this day.” |
| Posted by: Chesney Hupoting5332 2022-03-16 14:13 |
| #8 Screaming “Nazis” is not reasoned. It’s non-discourse. It’s an attempt at emotional manipulation that fails in this venue. Come up with something worth talking about or take yourself where such nonsense will get traction. Try Reddit or the Kos kiddies. Antifa, maybe. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2022-03-16 13:42 |
| #7 You said Nazis, Punky Elmigum9411, so we will disregard everything else you said afterward. Neener neener my fingers are in my ears I can't hear you! - (not) civil well-reasoned discourse |
| Posted by: Tiny Stalin2556 2022-03-16 13:27 |
| #6 Losing a war does not necessarily cost a leader his job so maybe Putin and Zelensky stay. The latter would be ironic since Zelensky marketed himself as a modern Churchill. Sir Winston won his war and lost his job. The Big Z looks to lose his war and keep his job. Face it, that is his real motivation. The media has been so hawkish that one could believe World War 3 is handing out free donuts and bagels to reporters to ply their support. Ukraine has been a cash cow for Washington insiders for decades. I am not sure where Ukraine gets the dough to pay off the spawn of politicians such as Biden and Pelosi. Maybe it is kickbacks from U.S. foreign aid. Meanwhile, the war has shown globalism for what it is: economic suicide. |
| Posted by: Knuckles Noodleman1469 2022-03-16 10:59 |
| #5 Liz Cheney showed she was the daughter of a man the left called a chickenhawk by denouncing the colonel. "This is the Putin wing of the GOP." |
| Posted by: Crolung Gluth7306 2022-03-16 10:55 |
| #4 They’re destroying Ukrainian forces. That’s their focus. Yeah but the Russians are taking a hell of a mauling doing it. And it has shown how crappy their military stuff is compared to western arms and their international sales will take an even bigger dump. Russia may force Zelensky out, but they lost big time in the strategic sense. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2022-03-16 10:50 |
| #3 ^Thx TW! Remember 'Godwin's Law'! |
| Posted by: borgboy 2022-03-16 01:26 |
| #2 Bzzzzzt! You fail. You said Nazis, Punky Elmigum9411, so we will disregard everything else you said afterward. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2022-03-16 01:09 |
| #1 There was a neutral Ukraine before the US backed coup in 2014 that put Nazis into power. |
| Posted by: Punky Elmigum9411 2022-03-16 00:55 |