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AWOL: Where Is the Russian Air Force? |
2022-03-07 |
![]() Because by all accounts, the Russian Air Force is nearly AWOL from Russia's biggest battles since 1945. Part of what's missing is likely fear of losses to Ukraine antiaircraft missiles-weather-fixed, mobile, or man-portable air defenses (MANPADS). One big reason the U.S. Air Force (and more recently, the Navy) went so big for stealth is that the battlespace was getting extremely uncomfortable for fighters and bombers. Soviet - later, Russian and Chinese - air defenses were getting denser and deadlier. The jet that was more difficult to detect, track, and hit would have the advantage. The U.S. bet wisely on stealth because the modern battlefield, including Ukraine, is rife with antiaircraft missiles. What few missions VKS has flown over Ukraine, they’ve flown mostly at night in order to minimize losses to MANPADS. The few precision strikes Russia has launched have been with cruise missiles, again to minimize risk to Russia’s expensive fleet of non-stealthy aircraft. But what good is a modern air force that can’t be deployed in a modern battlespace? Stealth is the price of admission to modern air warfare, but it’s a price Russia can’t afford to pay. |
Posted by:DarthVader |
#13 He has missiles that can not be shot down... |
Posted by: Woodrow 2022-03-07 23:15 |
#12 Their helo loss in the air has gone up considerably. Stingers must be reaching the front. |
Posted by: Angaiper Ulavins1210 2022-03-07 21:56 |
#11 If I heard Sky News correctly, the Russians lost nine aircraft today. |
Posted by: KBK 2022-03-07 21:54 |
#10 Mercutio on 7 is a hundred percent correct |
Posted by: Cthulhu of Ryleh 2022-03-07 20:54 |
#9 Always like talking to zoomies. Ask about how long they've been flying and what they've flown. Then point out that the Army spends a few weeks teaching E3/E4s a couple of weeks worth of how to use a Stinger and target identification. Given they literally have seconds to determine whether to pull the trigger or not and that if they don't fire it, they have to carry it all back are aspects involved in the operator's trigger decision process. |
Posted by: Procopius2k 2022-03-07 19:22 |
#8 /\ Very likely scenario. |
Posted by: Besoeker 2022-03-07 19:09 |
#7 Contrarian view: Putin realizes this one-on-one war could very well acquires some new players and, thinking that ground forces with minimal air support could get the job done in Ukraine, is holding his air assets back in case there is a main event. |
Posted by: Mercutio 2022-03-07 19:02 |
#6 ^ Well said. |
Posted by: Matt 2022-03-07 18:39 |
#5 MANPADS are the "no fly zone" and it is working. |
Posted by: Besoeker 2022-03-07 18:20 |
#4 You think their aircraft maintenance is better than their vehicle maintenance? |
Posted by: Procopius2k 2022-03-07 16:25 |
#3 or they don't have much in the way of back up munitions and once they have done a few missions, the boom booms are used up |
Posted by: Lord Garth 2022-03-07 16:21 |
#2 Too many MANPADS? |
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom 2022-03-07 15:05 |
#1 Also another reason the US has been developing long range stand-off weapons. Some stealthy, some not. The low-stealth ones are cheap and can be launched in large numbers to overwhelm air defenses. The stealth ones pick off high value radar sites and C&C that control the air defense. Then send in the F-35s to pick off whatever is left. In 10-20 years substitute the F-35s with stealth AI drones. |
Posted by: DarthVader 2022-03-07 14:16 |