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| MSNBC's Heilemann Claims '30 Million People Right Now' Ready to Take Up Arms for Trump | |
| 2021-12-14 | |
[Breitbart] MSNBC network national affairs analyst John Heilemann said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that there were “30 million people right now who are ready to take up arms” for former President Donald Trump. Anchor Chuck Todd said, “I want to read what Bart Gellman wrote in the cover story for The Atlantic. Some might say it is hyperbolic, but John Heilemann, I’m curious if you think it is? The headline is Trump’s Next Coup Has Already Begun. ‘Trump and his party convinced a dauntingly large number of Americans, that the essential workings of democracy are corrupt, that the made-up claims of fraud are true, that only cheating can thwart their victory at their polls, that tyranny usurped their government and that violence is a legitimate response.’ Hyperbolic or fact?” Heilemann said, “Fact, I think. The strength of that Gellman piece is it lays out this extraordinary reality that there is this research that shows something like 8% and maybe as many as 12% that say Joe Biden was illegitimate and violence is an appropriate tool to removing him and restoring Donald Trump. That’s between 20 and 30 million people. That’s a mass movement in America in favor of political violence, which is a new thing. We’ve been political violence before, lynching many things over the course of time that African-Americans have suffered, but this is 30 million people right now who are ready to take up arms.” He added, “You put that together with what the president, the former president, and his allies are doing in the political realm, statehouses, state legislatures and the party apparatus to be able to engineer a situation where they are in a stronger position to pull off a coup in 2024 than they were 2020. That’s not hyperbolic at all. Those are all facts.” | |
| Posted by:Skidmark |
| #25 Richard Gere and the gerbil story. In years past i head it from the LASD detective who handled the case. Not to pun excessively but that story was quickly memory holed. |
| Posted by: NoMoreBS 2021-12-14 20:16 |
| #24 Wonder if Blamtifa re-enlistment is down too. As the leadership in the Donetsk and Lugansk separatist republics finally learned, once you fuck over your recruits, they stop believing in your bullshit, then they stop showing up. |
| Posted by: badanov 2021-12-14 17:45 |
| #23 Wonder if Blamtifa re-enlistment is down too. |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2021-12-14 17:07 |
| #22 What scares some of them (but not enough of them yet) at night is that a lot of those "80 million voters" suddenly will disappear (as though they really existed in the first place) to defend their power. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2021-12-14 16:00 |
| #21 Well, likely he pulled that number out his ass like Richard Geer at a Petsmart. That said, interesting it is not 'How many are willing to hit the mat for Joe Kamela'. |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2021-12-14 15:13 |
| #20 The way the government is so weaponized against citizenns, one has to wonder why anyone would take part in such a poll? Maybe the numbers are far higher. Then one has to ask, who is really the enemy in this country? Maybe the sitting government, does not represent the citizens. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2021-12-14 13:55 |
| #19 Just jealousy on their part.... |
| Posted by: Warthog 2021-12-14 12:58 |
| #18 Several of you dressed that agitator down firmly. It was an absolute delight to watch, I must say. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2021-12-14 12:26 |
| #17 Anyone screaming it is likely a leftist trying to cause trouble, a government age trying to build a case, or both. |
| Posted by: Rob Crawford 2021-12-14 12:05 |
| #16 Yeah, it's one reason I've been so suspicious of people like that agitator we had a few days ago. Life is still pretty normal, we still have hope we can settle this according to the constitution. It's not black flag time and anyone screaming it is will probably be a f'ing buttheaded idiot. |
| Posted by: Silentbrick 2021-12-14 11:02 |
| #15 No one wants political violence until the civil avenues of the redress of grievances are exhausted. We still are a good ways away from that. |
| Posted by: badanov 2021-12-14 10:49 |
| #14 National affairs are the best. |
| Posted by: badanov 2021-12-14 10:46 |
| #13 Oh and they'd be wetting themselves and screaming a lot more. |
| Posted by: Silentbrick 2021-12-14 10:45 |
| #12 If they really believed that, I'm pretty sure they'd all be fleeing the country before they wound up along I-40 as a public example or something. |
| Posted by: Silentbrick 2021-12-14 10:42 |
| #11 Not willing to take up arms for Trump. Willing to take up arms to defeat the facist deep state. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2021-12-14 08:01 |
| #10 Not for Trump necessarily, but against the bilge-dwellers of society, sure. |
| Posted by: Mullah Richard 2021-12-14 08:01 |
| #9 30 Million, obviously that is a low estimate. |
| Posted by: NN2N1 2021-12-14 07:29 |
| #8 ‘Trump and his party convinced a dauntingly large number of Americans, that the essential workings of democracy are corrupt..... But nearly everyone was "convinced" of that long before Donald Trump became president. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2021-12-14 07:16 |
| #7 This is the way the US government/deep state have operated for a long time. Goad the other side with inflammatory rhetoric until they make the first move. Then claim it was a sneak attack and lay waste to them. |
| Posted by: Clulet Splat5443 2021-12-14 04:56 |
| #6 Only 30? |
| Posted by: Croque Fliting8030 2021-12-14 03:15 |
| #5 These assholes are writing a new Psychology textbook chapter on Projection. They're insane. Deluded beyond belief |
| Posted by: Merrick Ferret 2021-12-14 01:45 |
| #4 Trump and his party convinced a dauntingly large number of Americans, that the essential workings of democracy are corrupt, that the made-up claims of fraud are true, that only cheating can thwart their victory at their polls, that tyranny usurped their government and that violence is a legitimate response. I think we will give the DNC and affilliates credit for that mindset. |
| Posted by: Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-12-14 01:38 |
| #3 Maybe more. But not quite ready - still just watching and thinking. |
| Posted by: Glenmore 2021-12-14 01:25 |
| #2 Heil Heileman! Shout! Shout his name! EMMANUEL GOLDSTEIN!! Isthe Two Minutes Hate finished? |
| Posted by: Merrick Ferret 2021-12-14 01:20 |
| #1 He said it in a bad way, but that doesn't mean it's not true. |
| Posted by: Skidmark 2021-12-14 00:46 |