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| Here's Why the Vaccines Aren't Working |
| 2021-10-01 |
| [NOQreport] With all the hype and noise surrounding the politics and medicine of the Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J jabs, it's time to put together a concise discussion of how vaccines work, focusing on the Fauci Ouchy. I will try to stick purely to the science, leaving out issues of masking, social distancing, lockdowns, and so on. Those are related epidemiology, but don't explain vaccine function and design. So, without further ado... The concept of a vaccine had been folk wisdom for centuries, but no scientific basis was understood. In the eighteenth century, smallpox killed up to twenty percent of the population. Several investigators began a practice called variolation. Physicians made small cuts in healthy people, and then put material from smallpox blisters in the cuts. This killed two or three percent of patients, but on balance, that was still a reduction in the death toll. George Washington used it to protect the bulk of his army, even though he lost some soldiers with the practice. |
| Posted by:Angstrom |
| #19 Good, let'em die. |
| Posted by: Skidmark 2021-10-01 21:55 |
| #18 Important to note that VAERS reporting is optional. So those numbers are a fraction of events, by no means all of them. |
| Posted by: Angstrom 2021-10-01 17:24 |
| #17 No exact numbers seem to be available for deaths related to flu vaccine. However, the two most common causes of death due to a flu shot are anaphylaxis and Guillain-Barre Syndrome, and from the information given by the CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) it is possible to work out an approximate number. The CDC reports 1.31 cases of anaphylaxis per million flu shots given, so that would be about 183 cases per year in the US (on average, around 140 million Americans a year receive a flu shot). Anaphylaxis has a fatality rate of between 0.25% and 0.33%, so on average that would be one death every two or three years. Guillain-Barre Syndrome is a reaction of the central nervous system to bacterial or viral infection, most commonly food poisoning. It causes paralysis, usually temporary, and may result in a hospital stay of up to six weeks. A small number of people are permanently impaired, and approximately 3% -5% die. According to the CDC, only one or two people in a million will develop GBS as a result of the flu shot. That gives a range of between 4 (140 x 3%) and 14 (280 x 5%) deaths a year from flu-shot related GBS. Based on these calculations, the number of people dying from the flu shot in the US each year would be between 4 and 15, so probably an average of about 9, out of 140 million vaccines given, while anywhere from 12,000 to 56,000 die as a result of catching the flu, and the vast majority of flu-related deaths occur in people who are not vaccinated (CDC figures from 2010–11 through 2013–14). Here’s where I got the basic figures, if you want to run the math for yourself: Estimating Seasonal Influenza-Associated Deaths in the United States Click through the menu on the left to get to the information about anaphylaxis and GBS - it’s all on the same site, just different pages. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2021-10-01 16:53 |
| #16 Those numbeers were from the JUne 2 release. They are the lateset ones available. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2021-10-01 16:44 |
| #15 VAERS data released today by the CDC How do these numbers compare to other vaccines like the annual flu shot currently in use? Because Deacon Blues’ numbers don’t look large for 300+ million doses given. I realize that a lot of adverse events have not been reported, and that many of those that were are actually minor, but surely someone is looking at a side-by-side comparison. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2021-10-01 16:18 |
| #14 Branch Covidian jumped the gun... |
| Posted by: Lenin McCartney 2021-10-01 16:15 |
| #13 VAERS data released today by the CDC showed a total of 438,441 reports of adverse events from all age groups following COVID vaccines, including 9,048 deaths and 41,015 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and July 2, 2021. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2021-10-01 16:10 |
| #12 Merck is about to seek an Emergency Use Approval, EUA, for molnupiravir. Company has been working on this for a year or so and the data has been good. The USA Dept of HHS has committed to buying about 1 to 2 million treatment units if the drug does get EUA. |
| Posted by: Lord Garth 2021-10-01 14:40 |
| #11 ^That's because India's per capita test rate is 1% of Israel's and most covid deaths are not even reported. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2021-10-01 13:51 |
| #10 Restless Anal Retentive, perhaps. |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2021-10-01 13:39 |
| #9 heh |
| Posted by: Vespasian Ebboting9735 2021-10-01 11:02 |
| #8 Grom, I believe Israel is still outpacing India in weekly new cases. India is predominantly unvaxed. |
| Posted by: 49 Pan 2021-10-01 10:16 |
| #7 I haven't seen too many, if any, recent success stories form Israel Maybe if you'll open your eyes? |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2021-10-01 08:44 |
| #6 I haven't seen too many, if any, recent success stories form Israel regarding the vax. too bad, I was hoping it would be effective. What is it now, two additional boosters required for the Green Pass? |
| Posted by: Vespasian Ebboting9735 2021-10-01 08:30 |
| #5 Thanks for your post Angstrom. Concise and to the point. Most of the data is well known and hard for many to accept. |
| Posted by: The Walking Unvaxed 2021-10-01 07:21 |
| #4 1) None of the approved vaccines contains the live virus. This means they cannot give you COVID-19. 2) Data from the United Kingdom and Finland show that the AstraZeneca, Pfizer and Moderna vaccines do reduce onward transmission of SARS-CoV-2 to a degree. One UK study found that the AstraZeneca vaccine was 47% effective and the Pfizer vaccine was 49% effective at preventing onward transmission to household contacts of vaccinated people who had breakthrough infections. 3) Currently approved vaccines have been shown to be effective to provide at least some protection against new variants as these vaccines work to create a broad immune response. The mutations causing these variants should not make the vaccines ineffective. 4) Boosters are currently under investigation |
| Posted by: BernardZ 2021-10-01 06:41 |
| #3 There is, though, a more charitable explanation for all these "gifted amateur" anti-vax articles - a hypothesis suggested by the quality of their articles. COVID May Cause Restless Anal Syndrome |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2021-10-01 01:58 |
| #2 ...The shot was (and is still being) promoted as very safe, with minimal side effects. This is, unfortunately, false. Is that a fact? How many people have died from the vaccine in the U.S.? Conclusions. Ideology: whether on the left or on the right; is an impediment when dealing with reality Speculation The |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2021-10-01 01:45 |
| #1 With COVID-19, if the other three antigens were included in the vaccine, we'd have robust immunity, and no boosters would be required, since the shot would produce roughly the same response as an illness would. False. 20-30% people lose natural immunity against Covid in 6 months, new study finds. The clown who wrote this should've looked up Affinity maturation |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2021-10-01 01:37 |