doesn't bother me a bit,
I take my medicine
3 times a day,
Not even a sniffle...
my medicines are
Quinine Tonic & Gin with Juniper Berries
Cheers to you who drink Beers
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| Five Extremely Simple Reasons Why Biden Made the Right Call Mandating Vaccines |
| 2021-09-12 |
| h/t HotAir [Slate] - Conservatives have collectively gone wild with rage and indignation over President Joe Biden’s new vaccine mandate for private businesses, which will require large employers to make sure their workers have either been inoculated or get tested weekly. In the right’s telling, the coming rule is a paternalistic—even tyrannical—imposition on American freedoms, a step down the road to biomedical serfdom that calls for mass civil disobedience, and an offense that has some of Congress’ leading nutters bellowing on Twitter that "unvaccinated lives matter." So it seems like a good moment to point out the very simple reasons why Biden’s move is in fact entirely sensible, especially since parts of the media seem intent on framing the whole thing as just another round in America’s culture war rather than an actual matter of life and death. (Here’s looking at you, Mike Allen.) Though I'm not sure Americans - on either side of the ideological divide - can even consider the idea that the other side is not the Antichrist. |
| Posted by:g(r)omgoru |
| #31 even better: Tito's Vodka |
| Posted by: Frank G 2021-09-12 21:05 |
| #30 All this stuff doesn't bother me a bit, I take my medicine 3 times a day, Not even a sniffle... my medicines are Quinine Tonic & Gin with Juniper Berries Cheers to you who drink Beers |
| Posted by: Alistaire Johnson8413 2021-09-12 20:22 |
| #29 Democrats won't release power until there are zero Covid cases of any variant - not zero deaths, not zero hospitalizations. Zero cases. Oh, and 100% vaccination. In other words - never. |
| Posted by: Rambler in Virginia 2021-09-12 16:02 |
| #28 Not if our Democrats and furriner totalitarians have their way. A momentary sniff of power has intoxicated them |
| Posted by: Frank G 2021-09-12 15:56 |
| #27 I expect that by 2022 covid vaccine will be given with the annual flu shots. Nonetheless it is unlikely we will be free of either the flu or covid for many years. |
| Posted by: Lord Garth 2021-09-12 15:51 |
| #26 Covid Delta variant big in the south because that’s when people spend the most time inside with the windows closed and air conditioning cranked. With D burning itself out and people opening widows and staying outside as it becomes more temperate it will fade in the south. Right after the weather turns cold in the north, the windows stay shut and people stay indoors you’ll see the D variety start ripping through the north. As for the flu, apparently the Covid virus causes the immune system and interferon reaction to the point where it prevents the flu virus from taking hold for a while. It worked a similar way for the rhinovirus that held off the pandemic H1N1 flu in 2009, at least temporarily. The theory is that by Covid outcompeting Flu, the flu never had a large enough pool of vulnerable people to spread widely, as well as people taking extraordinary precautions with distancing and hand washing, etc. Those circumstances may yet again blunt the onset of flu. |
| Posted by: Greater the Anonymous5721 2021-09-12 15:30 |
| #25 #24 Yes indeed. Common sense. I always complained about buildings that had no windows that opened. We breathe and re breathe air. No sunlight low Vitamin D levels and chronic media stress hence autoimmune system is impaired. The regarding the antichrist in 1933 a pastor had a vision. He saw a time a president would not finish his term and his female vice President would become the president. He said shortly thereafter the end would occur for all humanity. Kamala Devil Harris, I added the L. |
| Posted by: Dale 2021-09-12 15:07 |
| #24 once Summer is over and the Sun isnt as much of a factor, the lack of Vitamin d factor will send alot more vaxxt folk to the ER me thinks... |
| Posted by: 746 2021-09-12 12:17 |
| #23 #20 many new variants to follow.They will keep this going for as long as possible, till elections at least. The Spanish flu lasted eight years. Flu season has just started. Let the fun begin. To myself this is truly a carnival of the mind. Truly a Freak sideshow. |
| Posted by: Dale 2021-09-12 11:39 |
| #22 Thyroid Mary was Typhoid Mary’s fat cousin. |
| Posted by: Crath Prince of the Faeries9822 2021-09-12 11:32 |
| #21 That wasn't actually spirit bucket1287. |
| Posted by: Cesare 2021-09-12 11:32 |
| #20 This hasn't been about public health for a long time. With the current panic variant already crested I think Xao buy den wants to get this in quick to sound decisive and be able to claim victory on thee back of a natural event. |
| Posted by: Spirt Bucket1287 2021-09-12 11:31 |
| #19 Let’s test the vax out on the Afghanis we’re importing and see how it works after 5 years— like real scientists. |
| Posted by: Regular joe 2021-09-12 11:14 |
| #18 #13 Trump booed after telling supporters to get Covid vaccine |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2021-09-12 11:10 |
| #17 He has done that repeatedly over the past 9 months. You just don't hear about it. Why not? Because it doesn't fit in with the straw man argument. Again, I reiterate: did you notice that this whole argument spooled up again two days after the document dump on Tuesday about gain of function and related shit? |
| Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-09-12 11:08 |
| #16 I have no data yet of the timeframes for booster shots. But I'll be digging. May I suggest you start with 35 Years of Research Into Coronavirus Infections Show Long-Term Immunity Is Unlikely If only the authors did this research before it became "important". |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2021-09-12 11:08 |
| #15 Five simple reasons Biden should ban any and all Abortions |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2021-09-12 10:18 |
| #14 words and facts travel slow to Israel? |
| Posted by: Frank G 2021-09-12 10:00 |
| #13 the orange Messiah will call upon the faithful to vaccinate He has done that repeatedly over the past 9 months. You just don't hear about it. Why not? |
| Posted by: Glenmore 2021-09-12 09:56 |
| #12 PM Boris Johnson says no to vax/immunity passports for UK |
| Posted by: Frank G 2021-09-12 09:55 |
| #11 The story being sold in the media is that the reluctant/anti-vax crowd is conservatives/Trump supporters/white supremacists. As near as I can tell, the populations are: something like 20-30% of health care workers unionized groups like teachers and postal workers minorities (meaning blacks) and the educated elite. Of course, not everyone in the above categories is anti-. It's not a binary world, people. Perhaps there would be less reluctance if the current advocates had not campaigned so hard against the vaccines when Trump was Prez. |
| Posted by: SteveS 2021-09-12 09:53 |
| #10 g(r)omgoru Depending on the Medical research institute, that addressed VAX'd being possible carriers. The data found, ran from 8% and little more depending variable like up to a 1 month window after final shot and a window 5+ months after final. Meaning people thinking they are immune still can get infected and be carriers. I have no data yet of the timeframes for booster shots. But I'll be digging. Regarding my millions of civil rights violated. As of: September 12, 2021, 12:32 GMT The USA had 1,144,333 claimed new infections 1.144 in about 322 over the LAST 7 DAYS. This is makes it about a 0.28300000000000003 of 1% chance of getting infected in USA in the last 7 days. Over the last 7 days, the USA had 9,168 deaths claimed to be C-19 that is 28 deaths per million population. -6% decline from the previous week. So IF you were unlucky enough to be one of the 0.28300000000000003 infected your odds of dying were 0.8011653950379828 of 1% for those infected. We are a population of 333+ Million (Not Counting ILLEGALS) and using your 54.7% are VAX'd number. That means that 150.81 Million are still UN-VAX'd. (millions) BTW: The US Population has actually increased, not declined, since the C-19 started. So if 178 million FULL VAX doses have been successfully applied, then why are a good handful of the VAX'd still dying from C-19? Example of Why the VAX Passport and MANDATES will be hard to enforce. 1 of 100's of sites. VAX-PORTS Just fill in the blanks, pay a few bucks and you have employer/shopper level ID. |
| Posted by: NN2N1 2021-09-12 09:26 |
| #9 ^You should be. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2021-09-12 08:34 |
| #8 Damned glad I don't live in Israel |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2021-09-12 08:30 |
| #7 Ah, I see we're trying to spread the panic pr0n far and wide this morning, Mr. Branch Covidian... |
| Posted by: Raj 2021-09-12 08:08 |
| #6 What about the Research by several respected medical groups, showing some VAX'd persons can be carriers (Thyroid Mary's)? That's why unvaccinated should be kept away. p.s. "Thyroid Mary's"??? What if you already had the C-19/21 and recovered? Given you now have anti-bodies and some natural resistance to the C-19/21+ at least equal to the VAX? Then why the shot? Because natural immunity declines with time - just like vaccinated one (actually read the Israeli paper you're all misquoting!). Why violate the civil rights of a 100++ million citizens by forcing a constant TEMPORARILY VAX solution, while denying viable / long proven alternative treatments and medications. (i) "100++ million"??? From Our World in Data · Last updated: 2 days ago United States Doses given: 379M Fully vaccinated: 178M % of population fully vaccinated: 54.3% (ii) Because your "viable / long proven alternative treatments" are such only in conservative press. In the real world they don't exist. Face it NN2N1, the anti-vaxxer movement is deader than anti-guy-marriage movement. Two months from now 90% of adult Americans will be vaccinated. And, long before that, the orange Messiah will call upon the faithful to vaccinate - he can't afford to lose too many of them. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2021-09-12 07:59 |
| #5 My Life, My Choice So lets say you have had the VAX and it TEMPORARILY works for you. So IF you are TEMPORARILY immune, then why the hell are you worried about those that have chosen not to be VAX'd yet? Or, is this just another Government Oxymoron or Deflection? We already have the CDC/NIH admitting, that the VAX only works so long. Then you will need a BOOSTER shot every 5 to 6 months or new more infectious and less deadly strain. QUESTIONS What about the Research by several respected medical groups, showing some VAX'd persons can be carriers (Thyroid Mary's)? What if you already had the C-19/21 and recovered? Given you now have anti-bodies and some natural resistance to the C-19/21+ at least equal to the VAX? Then why the shot? Why violate the civil rights of a 100++ million citizens by forcing a constant TEMPORARILY VAX solution, while denying viable / long proven alternative treatments and medications. But then give the alternative medications denied to US Citizen to ILLEGALS entering the country and but not the VAX? Plus admit doing so during a WH New Brief? Something ain't right..... Since according to CDC/WHO/NIH data. This c-19/21+ mutates and infects like that other well known virus, called the FLU. We know it is up to 90x's more likely to kill older adults or those in lower age groups with pre-existing medical issues. So why demand the VAX'ing of healthy kids, teens, and young adults under age 29? Summary: My wife and I are 60+ and part of the Wait and See group. But Over the last 600+ days, we have been out just about everyday in public stores and places and never been infected. All we do is just practice common seasonal FLU safety measures. However, we have had a number of medical field and 1st Responder family members infected despite being VAX'd and recovered. With only 1really close call, he was VAX'd and age 50'ish. So mine your own business and remember this simple RIGHT we all have. My Life, My Choice |
| Posted by: NN2N1 2021-09-12 07:39 |
| #3 I've never considered teachers unions and the postal service hotbeds of conservative or right wing political thought but they both seem to have an issue with the mandate. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2021-09-12 07:06 |
| #2 ^Thank you for making my "Antichrist" point for me, Francis. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2021-09-12 06:08 |
| #1 ^Allahpundit fanboi. Nuff said |
| Posted by: Frank G 2021-09-12 05:57 |