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Afghanistan
Afghan debacle shattered foreign policy establishment's 'expertise' mystique
2021-08-18
[NYPOST] When President Joe Biden
...... 46th president of the U.S. Old, boring, a plagiarist, fond of hair sniffing and grabbing the protruding parts of women, and not whatcha call brilliant... Just look at the competent way he dumped Afghanistan......
 ­addressed the nation on Monday, he was admirably clear-eyed about the reason for leaving Afghanistan: US forces had killed the late Osama bin Laden
...... who is no longer with us, and won't be again......
 long ago. America should have sought no more than to find and kill him and neutralize al Qaeda — not to will liberal democracy into existence in a country that has rarely enjoyed a stable central government at any point in the last 2,000 years.
Posted by:Fred

#14  I've heard it also said Japan is a culture based on honor. Where Afghanistan is a culture based on shame.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2021-08-18 20:11  

#13  Re #2 & #9,The largest difference between AFG and the Marshall Plan in Europe and Japan, is that in the WW2 examples, the people there already had a developed country, and wanted one back. The people of AFG didn't have one to begin with, and would routinely bail out when given the opportunity.
I have repeatedly seen police reports advising of AFG personel being trained in the US, and would go AWOL in order to not go back hame.
Ponder this: Is there now an anticipated migration of immigrants to go back to AFG?
Posted by: ed in texas   2021-08-18 19:06  

#12  What M.Murcek said.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2021-08-18 17:57  

#11  The "mystique" existed only among those in the media sucking Brennan's and Clapper's d*cks. Everybody eles saw them for what they we for over a decade.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2021-08-18 15:25  

#10  Oh, and then there are the foreign policy experts who think of Israel as an ally we should support. Biden might not be one of those. He seems to favor Iran just like his former boss.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2021-08-18 14:11  

#9  #2, maybe the Marshall Plan. That was nation building too but then at least we had some material we could work with.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2021-08-18 14:05  

#8  excuse my gibberish. I don't put any faith in "foreign policy experts".
Posted by: Chris   2021-08-18 12:57  

#7  #4 yep. then again, the same old hands from WW2 still on board.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2021-08-18 10:40  

#6  Wasn't #2 in the Saddam deck of cards also a red head? Just askin' for a friend...
Posted by: M. Murcek   2021-08-18 10:26  

#5  I' put any faith into "forirgn policy" experts. No offense intended to anyone here.
Posted by: Chris   2021-08-18 10:22  

#4  Korea, right?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2021-08-18 09:07  

#3  ...hmmmm...still thinking...maybe this one.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2021-08-18 09:05  

#2  ^Gives us an example when they made correct prediction, P2K?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2021-08-18 05:59  

#1  The fall of the Soviet Union and 9/11 didn't?
Posted by: Procopius2k   2021-08-18 05:54  

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