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Day 2: Boulder shooting suspect Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa was short-tempered, violent, former teammates say

2021-03-24

Day 1 can be seen here.
Lone wolf on the FBI’s radar. BLUF: Syrian-American (came over with his family when he was three years old), possible paranoid schizophrenic, ISIS curious, had wanted but was unable to attack Trump rallies in February and March of 2020. Walked up to a grocery store and silently shot and killed the ten people he pointed his gun at. Fifteen security agencies from local police to SWAT to FBI descended on the store within minutes of the first call.
See also here.

[DenverPost] The 21-year-old Arvada man arrested in Monday’s mass shooting at a Boulder King Sooper’s was ~~violent~~ mostly peaceful, short-tempered and paranoid during high school, his former classmates said Tuesday.

Alissa purchased a Ruger AR-556 pistol seven days before the attack, according to a police affidavit released Tuesday.

Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa is suspected of killing 10 people at the grocery store Monday when he walked in around 2:30 p.m. and began shooting, according to law enforcement. He was taken into custody about an hour later and was shot in the leg during the incident.

Posted by:trailing wife

#26 Moustafa Alissa, the Prophet and shooter's dad:

"If America wanted to exterminate ISIS and clean out Vaghdad it could do so in a week. But the ISIS "terrorist threat" is America's pretext for entering and destroying Syria... ."

Posted by: Glinegum Untervehr9492 2021-03-24 22:44

#25 Thank you, Cholugum Guelph3634.

Posted by: trailing wife 2021-03-24 22:32

#24 "7. Doesn't it seem coincidental that just as the Socialist Democrats are moving to stabilize their COUP's control with HR-1 Gun Controls or more likely Bans. That this almost perfect match for their agenda happens?"

I believe the left is always working on a number of regulations to further their agenda and just push it forward at every opportunity. Even adjusting the narrative a bit here and here as necessary in the early days before facts are in if necessary.

Posted by: ruprecht 2021-03-24 22:26

#23 https://www.thefolliesofdistributism.com/2021/03/moustafa-al-issa-father-of-muslim.html?m=1

Posted by: Cholugum Guelph3634 2021-03-24 22:16

#22 Why did he drive all the way to Boulder?

In the other thread, this post by NoMoreBS looks like the answer, Spimp Grundy7785:

#11 No Motive known? The goddam grocery story was described as the best place for Kosher Shopping on its own website, the local Jewish community is in shock, and the guy chose the 5th anniversary of the Brussels shootings.. Goddam government is past being cowardly, they are flat out political now!
https://andmagazine.com/talk/2021/03/24/ignoring-the-facts-why-did-the-boulder-shooting-suspect-choose-his-target/

Do you have a link about the father, Herb Bourbon3348? Interesting that this is the first I’ve seen him mentioned.

Posted by: trailing wife 2021-03-24 18:46

#21 Different Q: wth did he strip off his clothes? What drugs was he on?

Or, as SteveSailer posits, was he trying to signal to the SWAT team that he had no boomer-vest and therefore could be taken alive?

Posted by: Cholunter Hapsburg7716 2021-03-24 17:35

#20 Could the other person be his dad, Moustafa Alissa?

Apparently per dad's FB page he's a big supporter of the Erdogan regime who rants about "revenge" against Assad, Putin, and Trump among other matters

Posted by: Herb Bourbon3348 2021-03-24 17:32

#19 "The New York Times reported on Tuesday that he was known to the FBI because he was linked to another person who has been under investigation for something else. They didn’t give any more details."

Posted by: Slats Unerens9945 2021-03-24 17:21

#18 ^What about gay?

Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2021-03-24 16:57

#17 I read an opinion piece some time back that the pro-gay, pro-drug, anti-God platform of the leftists really tugs their beards.

Not that islamists don't do drugs; we know better than that.

Posted by: swksvolFF 2021-03-24 16:44

#16 1) He was paranoid schizo, hyper-sensitive to perceived slights.
2) He was a HS wrestler without any academic or professional ambition. Not a reader of books or explorer of ideas.
3) He was uninformed about American society and evidently lacked any kind of social savvy or ability to distinguish between say white Colorado Springs Trumpers and white Boulder global-hippies

If the above point to anything, it's outside, foreign influence. Who on this planet lumps together white American leftists and white American conservatives? Only foreign jihadis.

Posted by: Ebbatle Ulusomp4901 2021-03-24 14:54

#15 Was he and his family Green Card/Visa holders or US Citizens?

He is described as an American citizen.

he seemed to have a major issue with Christians.

I’ve been reading that as Dar el Harb, the house of war where Moslems are not running everything. He doesn’t seem very bright, even aside from paranoia and a hair-trigger temper, so I don’t think there is any deeper philosophy involved.

Where he get the $800+

He is living in his older brother’s house, who is probably supporting him as unable to work or as the much younger baby of the family— he doesn’t seem to have done anything at all since graduating from high school a few years ago, but the happy photos published by the Daily Mail linked yesterday suggest family money. I suspect birthday and/or ~~Christmas~~ Ramadan money, or just a shared credit card. The sister-in-law did not question that he had a gun, just that he was playing with it in public, and assumed it was put in his bedroom when the family took it away from him when he did so. And he drove on his own to the King Sooper in his brother’s car, arriving with two guns, not just the new handgun.

So either he had at least two guns or, as seems to me more likely, the family had a small collection.

Why did Ahmad do this during the Trump Admin instead of waiting for the Anti-Gun Agenda enhancing Harris/Pelosi Admin.

He is only just 21; schizophrenia blossoms about this age, making the impulses that much harder to resist. Also, he had wanted to go after Trump rallies a year ago, but just at that point the Covid lockdowns started. I suspect rather that he could no longer resist the drive to kill, so went for a nearby well-populated place instead of waiting until at least next year for another Trump rally.

I wonder if it will soon be discovered that he was a longtime pot smoker who’d recently upped his intake.

Posted by: trailing wife 2021-03-24 14:39

#14 These nidulariaceae only clutch their totems closer, draw a 2 and 3 call double down, and dismiss those who 'shop there' as lesser beings.

Posted by: swksvolFF 2021-03-24 12:34

#13 ^^^

Won't be a "Gun Free Zone" for long, unless the inhabitants are completely clueless and Biden Socialists

Posted by: Crudity Correct4029 2021-03-24 12:23

#12 Boulder is a Gun Free Zone.

Posted by: swksvolFF 2021-03-24 12:17

#11 He probably chose Boulder because he could feel fairly sure there would be few people caring weapons among the civilian population.

Posted by: Harry Sforza6078 2021-03-24 12:14

#10 #1 Arvada to Boulder is 21 miles, 32 minutes per MapQuest. Not based on addresses, just cities.

Posted by: Bobby 2021-03-24 10:37

#9 Alissa purchased a Ruger AR-556 pistol At the Rueger website, it is definately a long-barreled gun with a (collapsible??) stock.

has a 30-round capacity, according to Ruger’s website. You can buy it with a 30-round mag, unless you want one that's "state compliant", which offers a ten-round mag.

Has someone confused the first weapon with the second description? Was there a second weapon?

Posted by: Bobby 2021-03-24 10:32

#8 Since schools aren't open everywhere, next place for a mass shooting (regardless of timing or political convenience for certain agendas) is a crowded store.

Posted by: M. Murcek 2021-03-24 09:58

#7 How'd he afford it? Can you say stimulus money?

Posted by: M. Murcek 2021-03-24 09:55

#6 Any AR platform pistol is a pistol, until you put a rifle stock on it, at which point it becomes an SBR, subject to NFA regulations. Think about that for a minute. Changing the stock, but leaving the barrel alone changes it from a pistol to a rifle. Ooooookaaaayyy...

Posted by: M. Murcek 2021-03-24 09:54

#5 I wonder if this guy followed a religious text that told him all his sociopathic outbursts against the infidel were justified?

Islam is like a force multiplier for schizoids

Posted by: Bob Grorong1136 2021-03-24 07:30

#4

A handful of questions:
1. Not knowing the latest ATF constantly moving regulations. Would the AR-556 pistol be considered a SBR and require a ATF Tax Stamp? Or was this a Pistol at all and just a PR renamed AR-15 with a collapse-able stock.

2. Does Colorado have a Ban on all magazines that can hold more than fifteen rounds? If so is the AR-556 "pistol" sold in CO. with a high-capacity Mag? Besides what difference would it make? One or 2 "legal" mags would have done the trick.

3. What are the State or Boulders "Good guy" self defense laws?
Did their Gun carry laws preclude persons from being able to defend themselves? Thus making it easier for Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa.

4. It seems the media reports I have read avoided this next question. Was he radicalized ? Because reading some of his captured before censored FB posts he seemed to have a major issue with Christians. (eg. “The Muslims at the #christchurch mosque were not the victims of a single shooter. They were the victims of the entire Islamophobia industry that vilified them.”

5. Where he get the $800+ to purchase a AR-556? What job did he have that allowed him to save for $100 for 8 to 10 weeks to
make these purchases? NOTE: These are being sold at gun shows for well over $1,500.00

6. Why is it nut jobs can find 556/223 ammo? When everyone else's store shelves are bare?

7. Doesn't it seem coincidental that just as the Socialist Democrats are moving to stabilize their COUP's control with HR-1 Gun Controls or more likely Bans. That this almost perfect match for their agenda happens?

8. Now that the Social media has had 40+ hours to erase his tracks. What do we really know about him that he said about himself? Because all we have now are 2nd hand statements that he was a school bully.

9. I wonder if Colorado voters IF allowed would re-establish the Death Penalty that their politicians eliminated almost a year and a day of this Mass shooting? March 23, 2020, Colorado became the 22nd U.S. state to abolish the death penalty.

10. Was he and his family Green Card/Visa holders or US Citizens? If a Visa holder (non-US Citizen) how was he able to purchase the weapon and pass the background check?

11. Noting the medias (timely)comments of how Ahmad disliked Trumps Immigration policies and etc...Why did Ahmad do this during the Trump Admin instead of waiting for the Anti-Gun Agenda enhancing Harris/Pelosi Admin.

Posted by: NN2N1 2021-03-24 06:17

#3 ^^^^^
Maybe he was playing the "Rolling Stones" and, and, and the boulders in his head got bolder, and bolder, and bolder.

Posted by: Hupavise Glurt8795 2021-03-24 02:38

#2 I question the term "was".

Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2021-03-24 02:36

#1 Why did he drive all the way to Boulder?

That's not anywhere close to his neighborhood. I've not seen anything to indicate he went to school or worked there.

Posted by: Spimp Grundy7785 2021-03-24 01:24

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