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New CDC Study Shows Masks Are Good, Restaurants Bad
2021-03-07
[NBC/DFW via Dallas News] A new national study adds strong smelling evidence that mask mandates can slow the spread of the coronavirus, and that allowing dining at restaurants can increase cases and deaths.
Yes, it can, especially compared to being locked in your room.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released the study Friday.

"All of this is very consistent," CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said during a White House briefing on Friday. "You have decreases in cases and deaths when you wear masks, and you have increases in cases and deaths when you have in-person restaurant dining."
Unless you're a (D) big-shot.
The study was released just as some states are rescinding mask mandates and restaurant limits. Earlier this week, Texas became the biggest state to lift its mask rule, joining a movement by many governors to loosen COVID-19 restrictions despite pleas from CDC-approved health officials.
So like the media said the other day, Texas Gov. Abbott is an idiot!
The new research builds on smaller CDC studies, including one that found that people in 10 states who became infected in July were more likely to have dined at a restaurant and another that found mask mandates in 10 states were associated with reductions in hospitalizations.
I remember that one. The list of qualifications at the end was impressive. There was no differentiation between indoor and patio dining, for example. Nor in the new/rehashed study, it appears.
The reductions in growth rates varied from half a percentage point to nearly 2 percentage points. That may sound small, but the large number of people involved means the impact grows with time, experts said.
The percentage is different when there's a bigger number?
"Each day that growth rate is going down, the cumulative effect — in terms of cases and deaths — adds up to be quite substantial," said Gery Guy Jr., a CDC scientist who was the study's lead author.
Unless, of course, the vaccine kicks in and affects the extrapolation.
Reopening restaurant dining was not followed by a significant increase in cases and deaths in the first 40 days after restrictions were lifted. But after that, there were increases of about 1 percentage point in the growth rate of cases and ‐ later ‐ 2 to 3 percentage points in the growth rate of deaths.

The delay could be because restaurants didn't re-open immediately and because many customers may have been hesitant to dine in right after restrictions were lifted, Guy said.
But he's guessing now; that wasn't part of the study.

The CDC Study concludes with the limitations:

The findings in this report are subject to at least three limitations. First, although models controlled for mask mandates, restaurant and bar closures, stay-at-home orders, and gathering bans, the models did not control for other policies that might affect case and death rates, including other types of business closures, physical distancing recommendations, policies issued by localities, and variances granted by states to certain counties if variances were not made publicly available.

Second, compliance with and enforcement of policies were not measured.

Finally, the analysis did not differentiate between indoor and outdoor dining, adequacy of ventilation, and adherence to physical distancing and occupancy requirements.


But it does support the current narrative.
Posted by:Bobby

#11  Sounds like the CDC needs a good spring cleaning like most of the 3 letter agencies. If we are ever able to elect another real president, he should fire the entire freaking federal workforce.
Posted by: Silentbrick   2021-03-07 18:11  

#10  Wow. Got the study done in 3 days. Even worked through the weekend. Sounds legit.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2021-03-07 14:57  

#9  Your facts and logic are very good!

But--PANIC PANIC PANIC PANIC
Posted by: Tom   2021-03-07 14:49  

#8  Messing with the CDC's own data reports as of a few days ago. Go find your own sources.
-- 28,646,679 Americans so far have had COVID-19
-- 7.7 CDC's estimate of the ratio of undiagnosed or undetected American cases of COVID-19 to the known + 28686679 American cases
-- 28,646,679*7.7 = 220,579,428 total measured and presumed cases of COVID-19 among Americans
-- 328,240,000 = 2019 estimate of American population
-- 220579428/328240000 = 67.2% of the American population has already had COVID-19. Duration and nature of this immunity is still uncertain.
-- At some point this coronavirus will run out of Americans who are not immune to it. That point seems to be getting very close.

Posted by: Thineger Sproing6704   2021-03-07 14:26  

#7  CDC has not covered itself in glory during this last year and it is my humble belief that they can all go fuck themselves.
Posted by: DarthVader   2021-03-07 13:32  

#6  A Scott Atlas article last month estimated (with justification) 890,000 excess deaths from the covid prevention actions, nearly doubling the deaths from covid. (It does not incorporate reduced non-covid deaths from covid prevention actions.)
Posted by: Glenmore   2021-03-07 10:04  

#5  I agree, but they are a litter hazard, even less likely to be picked up, because no one knows how long they've been there. Happening in my neighborhood.
Posted by: Bobby   2021-03-07 07:59  

#4  used masks are not a hazard since the virus only lives a few days at most on fabric or paper
Posted by: Lord Garth   2021-03-07 07:49  

#3  
QUESTION: What about the ## Billions of used masks here in the USA alone?

Aren't they themselves a major Bio-Hazard?
Posted by: NN2N1   2021-03-07 07:09  

#2  2 to 3 percentage points

which falls well within the margin of 'error'
Posted by: Procopius2k   2021-03-07 06:33  

#1  I doubt this difference was statistically significant at the 0.95
Posted by: Lord Garth   2021-03-07 04:16  

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