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| Archbishop Of Kansas City: Joe Biden ‘Should Stop Defining Himself As A Devout Catholic' |
| 2021-02-16 |
| [WIRE] President Joe Biden has described himself as a "devout Catholic," a description enthusiastically repeated by his press secretary and the media. Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City, who also serves as chairman of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ (USCCB) Committee on Pro-Life Activities, however, said that the president’s open support for legalized abortion should put that label to rest. Speaking with Catholic World Report, Naumann flatly said that Biden "should stop defining himself as a devout Catholic" while acknowledging that his abortion views stand in direct opposition to the Catholic Church. "Mr. Biden professes to be a devout Catholic, yet is 100% pro-choice on abortion. How do you think America’s bishops ought to respond to this situation?" CWR asked. "I can tell you how this bishop is responding. The president should stop defining himself as a devout Catholic, and acknowledge that his view on abortion is contrary to Catholic moral teaching. It would be a more honest approach from him to say he disagreed with his Church on this important issue and that he was acting contrary to Church teaching," Naumann responded. "When he says he is a devout Catholic, we bishops have the responsibility to correct him. Although people have given this president power and authority, he cannot define what it is to be a Catholic and what Catholic moral teaching is." "What he is doing now is usurping the role of the bishops and confusing people," Naumann added. "He’s declaring that he’s Catholic, and is going to force people to support abortion through their tax dollars. The bishops need to correct him, as the president is acting contrary to the Catholic faith." |
| Posted by:Besoeker |
| #8 Your priests are full of shit. In the laws of the church, it is as I said: latae sentitiae excommunication. No declaration needed. Ask them about that. Pin them down, make them sweat. They need correction and sometimes the laity needs to provide it. Here is a citation to provide them with: Codex Iuris Canonici, or Code of Canon Law TITLE VI. DELICTS AGAINST HUMAN LIFE AND FREEDOM Can. 1398 A person who procures a completed abortion incurs a latae sententiae excommunication. Pope John Paul II's 'Gospel of Life' teaches clearly .. Abortion is the greatest evil attack on innocent, defenseless life. The Code of Canon Law further instructs bishops: "A person is to be punished with a just penalty, who, at a public event or assembly, or in a published writing, or by otherwise using the means of social communication, utters blasphemy, or gravely harms public morals, or rails at or excites hatred of or contempt for religion or the Church" (canon 1369). Furthermore, the Code of Canon Law states that "A person who actually procures an abortion incurs a latć sententić excommunication" (canon 1398), and "[those] who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion" (canon 915). Biden hits ALL those, as does anyone who unrepentatnly and publicly supports the procurment of abortion. An excommunicated person is not cut off from the Church, but is barred from receiving the Eucharist and the other sacraments, and from taking a ministerial part in the liturgy (reading, bringing the offerings, etc.), while still being bound by obligations such as attending Mass Correct your priests. They should be witholding the sacraments other than the Sacrament of Reconciliation for the people to confess and repent of their support for abortion. |
| Posted by: Deadeye Jaiting7534 2021-02-16 23:57 |
| #7 According to one of the priests at my parish, only the Pope can excommunicate a head of state. Don't know if that is true - when I mentioned it on Facebook, another priest said "WHAT??" |
| Posted by: Rambler in Virginia 2021-02-16 17:52 |
| #6 Not my circus, not my monkey. The Catholic church should ex-communicate Communist Joe if they have a problem with his Catholicism. Toss Pelosi in with The deal. The Dems are the party supporting abortion. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2021-02-16 17:45 |
| #5 Bearing false witness is a grave sin, especially if meant to cause serious harm to another's reputation. (I was curious: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a8.htm) Since IIRC absolution is only efficacious if the person actually is trying to repent, how can a politician (with a handful of noble exceptions) be given communion, especially during an election season? I'm not Catholic, so maybe I'm missing some subtlety here. |
| Posted by: james 2021-02-16 16:25 |
| #4 ^Same with Pelosi |
| Posted by: Frank G 2021-02-16 16:00 |
| #3 Promoting abortion is, in Catholic dogma, a deadly sin if not confessed, repented, and amends made. Unrepentant repeated deliberate and knowing commission of a deadly sin incurs latae sentitiae excommunication. This means that the person is excommuicated by the very act; no explicit decree of excommunication is necessary. In short, if the Bishops would have the guts to call him out, they would correctly term him as an excommunicated Catholic, ineligible for communion - and quite possibly ineligible for any of the other 7 Sacraments except the Sacrament of Reconciliation. |
| Posted by: Deadeye Jaiting7534 2021-02-16 15:24 |
| #2 Uncle Joe always makes a big deal of sporting ashes on Ash Wednesday. Don't know if that makes him a good Catholic or not. |
| Posted by: jpal 2021-02-16 12:38 |
| #1 Does the dogma live loudly within him? |
| Posted by: Matt 2021-02-16 12:05 |